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November 07, 2014, 02:58:16 AM
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True when they called about the fire. I can see in the miner stats that the fire was already 1 hour going. So they where all sleeping ;-).  and stupid me trusted them with all this equipment. That's my big mistake. But again, I can't turn back time. No one hurt and a lesson learned.

Man, you are VERY passive for losing a ton of money and profit. You must be some rich kid playing with mom's money or never earned the money yourself? Usually when you earn money and lose it, it hurts a lot more then when just given to you.



I have patient with your weekend trolling, started after I didn't agree to a deal you requested privately.

I don't have patient for your inappropriate and wicked comments here and before.

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November 07, 2014, 03:25:37 AM
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We found out that dropping the SP20 package may cause the boards to shift.

We got complaints from about 2% of non palletes customers. Most of the units can be fixed at home by replacing the boards.

We halt individual package shipments for one week, until we'll solve the issue.

If you got such SP20, contact support@ for miner assembly guide. If the SP20 was actually damaged, we'll RMA.

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@CowboyMiner - HOW could you spend millions on hardware and then hire GUARANTEED fuck ups to (pretend) to watch over it for you???

I am not answering for Cowboy miner but I will give you a little insight into Thailand economics. I live in Bangkok and the minimum wage here is 300 baht (about US$9.50) per day for up to a 12 hour shift. More often than not, employers will also require their employees work six day weeks. I don't know about the specifics of this operation, but the types of jobs the "fuck up" had probably paid close to the low end. So they make about $57.00 a week. Not much incentive to do a good job or care about your job. Often you go into a business that has too many employees, because they got them cheap, and they are all useless. I always advocate paying fewer employees more money so they care about keeping their job. Many foreign employers also believe this, so maybe Cowboy Miner's operation paid better? My question is why invest all that money and not have insurance? Thailand does have quite a few reputable insurance companies.

I agree. I also experience the profound uselessness of 'many hands make light work' on a daily basis here. What almost always happens is the 'work' has to be redone continually, turning a simple fix into a lifelong nightmare for the inexperienced and career path for the inept 'worker'

Personally, I would have been thrilled to do security & support for less than a typical ex-pat salary, my little fire was put out by me within seconds of smelling the smoke,  socket replaced/wires repaired and back fully operational in minutes.

...but then i might have accidentally diverted one or 2 rigs to my wallet / smuggled my own rigs in, so perhaps they made a wiser choice. LOL


@cowboyminer - heart goes out to you bruh!! even 40 times the typical salary and i would bet the farm on them sleeping the whole night. before going to their day 'job' (taxi or other form of loafing about.)

i cycle the streets of BKK at night and i SEE them sleeping at the front of HUGE multinational offices/manufacturing plants. (as an aside, when i visited manila i saw the exact same scenarios but the sleeping guards held shotguns)

Do you really suspect arson? Real question...


@marvel - You need to UP your max watts to 285, right now your set at 100w which isnt enough to power the rig.

give it a spin!!


@stan - did you try upping the max voltage first?

opening it up should be the 2nd to last resort - my sp30 could do with a clean tho!!



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November 07, 2014, 04:05:17 AM
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Oh yes I tried different wattage from 288 on down to 100.  When I opened it up one board was warm the other cold. I Have just re-positioned the boards how they are supposed to be. I did have a struggle with connecting PCIE cables when I received the unit. Reason being the boards where out of position. Its really a snug fit. FED EX just tosses packages around in 3 continents before I got it so go figure.  One of the cables was loose and on this board the heat sink was at down angle. I am putting it back together now.   
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November 07, 2014, 04:09:21 AM
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Insurance is not a free ride.

To be insured or for your insurance claim to be valid, your electrical installation must have complied with the applicable regulations, making it extremely unlikely for you to sustain damage in the first place from electrical fault.

The fire should have been caused by an accident if insurance was to cover in any way.

If there is one evidence that cables were overloaded then you can kiss the insurance goodbye.
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November 07, 2014, 04:24:06 AM
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Now hashing on both boards.  Shipping I am sure Spondoolies is looking at fixing this for further shipments.  Its a snug fit so any bumping during shipping the energy is being transferred directly to the boards. 
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November 07, 2014, 04:44:12 AM
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@edgar   did that they wont use over 200w it seems so im capped at around 1380 TH @ 800 or so total watts

even upped voltages and stuff to max but no dice I can't get any where near the advertised 1.5TH

temps are fine around 55c

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November 07, 2014, 06:14:39 AM
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Good Job stan!!

Marv you probly should contact zvi via skype - everything i said came from he and hes got most of not all the answers.

Best Of luck bud & at least its doing something - better than DOA is a small bonus.

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November 07, 2014, 06:27:47 AM
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I have a question. would it be possible to put say 3xSP31 inside of one of these:

http://www.acoustiproducts.com/en/ucoustic_active.asp

I would have the ducting setup aswell so that i can vent the hot air out of the building, i am also in a cold climate. I am sure that there must be many people here intrested in making it easier living with these machines. Grin

Yes, this has been done with 2-3 spondoolies
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November 07, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
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Well doh
my SP30 got upgraded to 2.5.7 which seems incompatible with the orginal sp30 units
seems to have bricked the unit it will not connect to any pools.  I tried rolling back the firmware buy using the dropdown to do the manual seclection
but nothing shows in the dropdown.
what next ?


You can tell your support is too good when people assume they will get it by asking rhetorical questions in public forums.

I was actually asking for help from other members not from support that's always my last resourt

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November 07, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
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True when they called about the fire. I can see in the miner stats that the fire was already 1 hour going. So they where all sleeping ;-).  and stupid me trusted them with all this equipment. That's my big mistake. But again, I can't turn back time. No one hurt and a lesson learned.

Man, you are VERY passive for losing a ton of money and profit. You must be some rich kid playing with mom's money or never earned the money yourself? Usually when you earn money and lose it, it hurts a lot more then when just given to you.



I have patient with your weekend trolling, started after I didn't agree to a deal you requested privately.

I don't have patient for your inappropriate and wicked comments here and before.

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there are names for people like opentoe - EXTORTIONISTS.
the lowest of the low, when they don't get what they think they deserve (contrary to what they actually deserve in real terms) they begin the bullying attempts and threatening behaviour.

sad to see in a community which was firstly designed to be a collective effort.

PS> no point trying to belittle me opentoe - you've been on ignore for months. carry on.

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November 07, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
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Good Job stan!!

Marv you probly should contact zvi via skype - everything i said came from he and hes got most of not all the answers.

Best Of luck bud & at least its doing something - better than DOA is a small bonus.



Ok looks like I got the issue figured :"

The SP20 does not like that Ad2p adapter to combine two PSU's it seems. 

I ran both PSU's (1000w and 800W) separately and I am getting close to the advertised 1.68 T or so

what I am finding is these rockerbox chips can run at up to 1020HZ vs the cap on the sp30 chips of around 850hz


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November 07, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
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Correct Klondike. And about the loss, it's no use crying over spilled milk.

The workers where not low paid. They got 3 to 4 times normal Thai salary.

sorry for your loss friend.

looking at the setup though... aside from your wiring setup (which looks far too condensed)... all you needed were spacers between the rigs and I think you'd have been OK...
I have 4 inches air gaps between each of my own rigs, after having 2 together and almost instant shutdown due to overheating.

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November 07, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
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LOL:)

Can we cangtip already at bitcointalk? Wink
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November 07, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
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sorry for your loss friend.

looking at the setup though... aside from your wiring setup (which looks far too condensed)... all you needed were spacers between the rigs and I think you'd have been OK...
I have 4 inches air gaps between each of my own rigs, after having 2 together and almost instant shutdown due to overheating.

You don't have big fans blowing air towards units.

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November 07, 2014, 10:47:42 AM
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sorry for your loss friend.

looking at the setup though... aside from your wiring setup (which looks far too condensed)... all you needed were spacers between the rigs and I think you'd have been OK...
I have 4 inches air gaps between each of my own rigs, after having 2 together and almost instant shutdown due to overheating.

You don't have big fans blowing air towards units.

I have an aircon unit blowing cold air towards the rigs, not hot humid Thai air.

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November 07, 2014, 11:19:32 AM
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Insurance is not a free ride.

To be insured or for your insurance claim to be valid, your electrical installation must have complied with the applicable regulations, making it extremely unlikely for you to sustain damage in the first place from electrical fault.

The fire should have been caused by an accident if insurance was to cover in any way.

If there is one evidence that cables were overloaded then you can kiss the insurance goodbye.

I can't imagine anyone insuring any facility without automatic fire suppression.

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Insurance is not a free ride.

To be insured or for your insurance claim to be valid, your electrical installation must have complied with the applicable regulations, making it extremely unlikely for you to sustain damage in the first place from electrical fault.

The fire should have been caused by an accident if insurance was to cover in any way.

If there is one evidence that cables were overloaded then you can kiss the insurance goodbye.

I can't imagine anyone insuring any facility without automatic fire suppression.



yeah sorry about their loss as well......seems like up to that point being early adopters they we're having one hell of a good time with bitcoin!

anyway I wonder if being Thailand etc it was simply something as simple as mice or such chewing a wire or some such ..just saying if there was access
to such from outside etc ...I suppose a fire investigation will tell the real cost eventually

anyway my previous post I did not mean for people to think I went 'ah ha!' the pic was some kinda slam...(missed the previous posts) ...just a 'wow' pic of a catastrophe

anyway hopefully some of the damage was just soot etc on some of the equipment ..a pain in the butt ...but fixable..



 

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Really sorry to see that cowboy - what a mess...  Sad


Coindesk has a gallery with a few more pictures:

http://www.coindesk.com/gallery-fire-destroys-thai-bitcoin-mining-facility/


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Good Job stan!!

Marv you probly should contact zvi via skype - everything i said came from he and hes got most of not all the answers.

Best Of luck bud & at least its doing something - better than DOA is a small bonus.



Ok looks like I got the issue figured :"

The SP20 does not like that Ad2p adapter to combine two PSU's it seems. 

I ran both PSU's (1000w and 800W) separately and I am getting close to the advertised 1.68 T or so

what I am finding is these rockerbox chips can run at up to 1020HZ vs the cap on the sp30 chips of around 850hz



Im using an add2psu with 2 cougar 700s.

getting 1.55 , but havent tried increasing Hz


I can also verify rats have gnawed through ether cables, telephone/net cables, window frames and mosquito netting - i had never experienced rats before living in asia - theyre fucked!  as are the weird feral cats!!

Hmm do you have any pics of your ADD2psu setup ? not sure why mine is not working.  You did have the short the pins on one of the PSU's right ?

regarding the HZ , what i meant Is I raised the voltages to around .73-75 for the two top cores (since they seem to run cooler)

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