Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[tvbcof]

you really have no clue.

let me make this one thing clear.
the .doc file reader in a printer is not altered by a usb stick with .doc files on it. mrna is a .doc file. what your trying to insinuate is that its actually a firmware upgrade(.exe). sorry its not. its analogously a .doc file not an .exe file.. know the difference
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Quit trying to obfuscate.  This stuff is not that hard.

 - The genetic material tells the ribosome how to make what protein.

 - The gene therapies work by getting custom genetic instructions into ribosomes.  When these custom made instructions 'execute' in the ribosome the ribosome pumps out the proteins that the designer coded for.

First you try to flat out deny things.  When that doesn't work you try to overly complicate with a bunch of nonsense.  Lack of capitalization and punctuation is feature and not a bug for a word-salad spam specialist.  Your technique is OK with me because sometimes it provides a good opportunity to make things clear and hopefully help a few people resist being injured.

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Oh, by the way, I guess you gave up on trying to find one of the 'many' instances of me saying that the vaccines gene therapies modify the victim's DNA? 

[Tash]

Just bet vaccineted if your tied of living
https://vaccinedeaths.com/2021-01-31-55-dead-us-coronavirus-vaccine-federal-database.html#

No its not a vaccine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_vgIdcUoIE

The lethal injection working well, better than aids version
Fernando Katukina, Brazillian indigenous leader died, "vaccinated" January 19
https://globoplay.globo.com/v/9229480/

Have you made appointment with creator, visit nearest injection side
https://humansarefree.com/2021/02/7-dead-and-all-residents-infected-in-spanish-nursing-home-after-the-experimental-pfizer-mrna-shots.html

[hartley]

No, I don't trust to vaccines for covid, it is too early to speak about some efficiency, because now, no one can say what to expect from it and possible mutations in our organism, we need at least 5 years to acquire some information from descendants and possible DNA mutations.

[franky1]

Oh, by the way, I guess you gave up on trying to find one of the 'many' instances of me saying that the vaccines gene therapies modify the victim's DNA?  

i gave one example of you blurting out crap about reprogramming cells.
because i thought maybe you have memory issues and cant remember your own words. .. but there are soo many examples. just check your own post history.

pretty much any post you made that have the buzzwords 'DNA' or 'Gates'. is you going on some wild tangent talking about reprogramming human cells.

there are just soo many that its not worth my time to link them all. might aswell just link your post history in its entirety.

now go cry somewhere else about how people speak condescendingly to you.
incase you do have memory issues and also have a finger injury and unable to check your own post history..
here is another dumb example of you trying to make it look like covid vaccines are injecting DNA into people cells nucleus

Anyway AstraZeneca (Oxford), which is highly prescribed for the poorer population who tend to live in squatter's areas, is DNA inserted into the nucleus by an adenovirus.  Not an 'RNA' (not-a-)vaccine.  For some odd reason nobody in the mainstream press seems interested in disabusing people of the notion that they are all 'RNA Vaccines'.

what you have wrong. is that AZ(oxford) put mrna into the nucleus. not DNA
but it seems that you just grabbed an outdated adenovirus link that talks about traditional vaccines.. and not looked at what AZ(oxford) are doing specifically.

yep in regards to AZ(oxford) its RNA they put in it. not DNA.
so the reason no one 'in the mainstream press seems interested' in your theory. is because your theory is wrong. its mrna in the vaccine nucleus not dna.

so drop the 'dna' game your playing. its just making you look more clueless.
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and incase you now want to run down rabbit holes trying to throw buzzwords about the mutating/reprogramming ribosomes.. ill give you another condescending analogy.

imagine your kitchen sink sponge.. its a sponge. will always be a sponge.
imagine it enjoys water as its main fuel.
now if you run soap through it. along with the water. guess what you get...... soapy bubbles..amazing right. .. your soap has not changed the sponge into a brick. or a lizard. you have just put in soap and along with water, which makes soapy bubbles. the sponge is still a sponge.

now replace the word sponge with ribosome.. replace soap with RNA protein.. replace water with enzyme nutrients

and now you have 3rd grader knowledge about ribosomes.
now go research higher level analogies. and stop wasting your time on conspiracy about bill gates and dna modifying

[tvbcof]

Oh, by the way, I guess you gave up on trying to find one of the 'many' instances of me saying that the vaccines gene therapies modify the victim's DNA?  

i gave one example of you blurting out crap about reprogramming cells.
because i thought maybe you have memory issues and cant remember your own words. .. but there are soo many examples. just check your own post history.

I know my own words very well because I don't make up shit.  I don't know that any of the vaccines commonly (or uncommonly or deliberately or accidentally) modify a person's chromosomal DNA.  Thus, I know I didn't say it does.  This is NOT what I said in the statement (which you've cut out again.)  This is NOT the only way to 're-program' a person's cell.

All of the DNA and RNA vaccines gene therapies 're-program' a person's cells.  This is fundamental to how they work and the designers and makers of the therapies are very proud of that fact.

Anyway AstraZeneca (Oxford), which is highly prescribed for the poorer population who tend to live in squatter's areas, is DNA inserted into the nucleus by an adenovirus.  Not an 'RNA' (not-a-)vaccine.  For some odd reason nobody in the mainstream press seems interested in disabusing people of the notion that they are all 'RNA Vaccines'.

what you have wrong. is that AZ(oxford) put mrna into the nucleus. not DNA
but it seems that you just grabbed an outdated adenovirus link that talks about traditional vaccines.. and not looked at what AZ(oxford) are doing specifically.

yep in regards to AZ(oxford) its RNA they put in it. not DNA.

Do just a tiny amount of fuckin research for Christ's sake!  This is basic and very commonly known.  AstraZeneca transfects designer DfuckinNfuckinA into the victim's cell nucleus using adenovirus as a vector.  It forms a plasmid there and spins off mRNA.
 
  https://www.verywellhealth.com/rna-vs-dna-vaccine-5082285

YOU are working with outdated info because adenovirus techniques have been used in certain older vaccine technologies.  The way they are use in gene therapy (splicing in designer DNA) is what is new here (AstraZeneca, Sputnik V, J&J, others.)

There is a reason why they are labeled 'DNA' here:  https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/

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Edit:  A bit more from:  https://www.who.int/teams/health-product-and-policy-standards/standards-and-specifications/vaccines-quality/dna

Recently, a radically new approach to vaccination has been developed. It involves the direct introduction into appropriate tissues of a plasmid containing the DNA sequence encoding the antigen(s) against which an immune response is sought, and relies on the in situ production of the target antigen.

That really should be clear enough even for you frank-n-beans.  In fairness, it is somewhat difficult to see any mainstream media admit that AstraZeneca puts DNA into the victim's cell...and it's funny as hell to see them tap-dance around the issue.

I get most of my info from researching scientific papers where they don't normally have to play silly semantic games.  I can see how drooling retards like franky1 could be confused though.

Our two resident <cough>doctor<cough> friends probably learned something too complements of yours truly.  Haven't seem much of them lately.  The ones who claim to have gotten their so-called 'vaccines.'  Most real doctors won't touch the damn things.  At least those who figured out a way to work for real money in the West.

[Tash]

[franky1]

YOU are working with outdated info because adenovirus techniques have been used in certain older vaccine technologies.  The way they are use in gene therapy (splicing in designer DNA) is what is new here (AstraZeneca, Sputnik V, J&J, others.)

There is a reason why they are labeled 'DNA' here:  https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/

but AZ is not listed as DNA there
the colour of the box is not blue.. the words dont say 'dna'
the colour of the box is purple for AZ and sputnik. the words say 'non replicating viral vector'

there is no approved vaccine that is blue with the 'dna' title on that link..

.. it is you that refers to pre 2019 info about how they used to use non replicating viral vector to include dna in the nucleus.. heck that WHO page is a general info page that is nothing to do with covid vaccines specifically..

.. the reason why this last year its been classed as a new technique is because it puts in the spike protein not a whole dna genome

learn the difference

[tvbcof]

YOU are working with outdated info because adenovirus techniques have been used in certain older vaccine technologies.  The way they are use in gene therapy (splicing in designer DNA) is what is new here (AstraZeneca, Sputnik V, J&J, others.)

There is a reason why they are labeled 'DNA' here:  https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/

but AZ is not listed as DNA there
the colour of the box is not blue.. the words dont say 'dna'
the colour of the box is purple for AZ and sputnik. the words say 'non replicating viral vector'

there is no approved vaccine that is blue with the 'dna' title on that link..

.. it is you that refers to pre 2019 info about how they used to use non replicating viral vector to include dna in the nucleus.. heck that WHO page is a general info page that is nothing to do with covid vaccines specifically..

.. the reason why this last year its been classed as a new technique is because it puts in the spike protein not a whole dna genome

learn the difference

Interesting.  That vaccine tracker used to I think, but even if not it's a commonly known fact that AstraZeneca is DNA and is put into the nucleus neither of which is done with the mRNA vaccines like BioNTech or Moderna.  At least that is not their claim.  Like I say, there is full court press to avoid mentioning that AstraZeneca is DNA to the non-technical classes, but that doesn't change the facts.

Anyway, adenovirus is a DNA virus and it is designer DNA which is spiced in to be vectored into the nucleus of the victim's cells.

Agree or disagree Franky1?  Anyone else care to argue that AstraZeneca is RNA?

[franky1]

All of the DNA and RNA vaccines gene therapies 're-program' a person's cells.  This is fundamental to how they work and the designers and makers of the therapies are very proud of that fact.

the pride you speak of .. is not the contents of the vaccine.. but the manufacturing process in the vaccine facility.

they modify human derived cells(fetal kidney cells) for the growth factor cells in a petri-dish to grow the glycoprotein. they then extract that glycoprotein. not the human cells.

the description of this is about the manufacturing in the lab(petri-dish). not the vaccine(vial) and not what happens once injected into a patient

there is no human cell/ human nucleus in the vaccine.
emphasis: no fetus kidneys in the vaccine.
(incase thats your next rabbit hole)

[tvbcof]

All of the DNA and RNA vaccines gene therapies 're-program' a person's cells.  This is fundamental to how they work and the designers and makers of the therapies are very proud of that fact.

the pride you speak of .. is not the contents of the vaccine.. but the manufacturing process in the vaccine facility.

Wrong again Bob.  Gene therapy is about re-programing the subjects own cells to be the 'facility' in which designer proteins are 'manufactured.'

 - BioNTech and Moderna do it by inserting designer mRNA into the cytoplasm to program the ribosomes to synthesize proteins of the designer's choice.

 -  AstraZeneca creates designer DNA, splices it into adenovirus DNA, then allows the adenovirus to insert the plasmid into the cell nucleus alongside the chromosomal DNA.  From thence it transcribes to mRNA which exits the nucleus, finds ribosomes to program and does the same as the above.

There are 'new vaccines' where the antigens ARE made in manufacturing facilities such as the 'subunit' ones.  None yet authorized for emergency use yet to my knowledge.  These are NOT gene therapies.  They are polished versions of ordinary vaccines as we have known them until 2020.

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Since you didn't answer last time:

Anyway, adenovirus is a DNA virus and it is designer DNA which is spiced in to be vectored into the nucleus of the victim's cells.

Agree or disagree Franky1?  Anyone else care to argue that AstraZeneca is RNA?

[franky1]

disagree..
your grabbing lots of old data about outdated old tech.

the glycoprotein in the nucleus of the vaccine.. is not a full length dna from the human growth factor.
there is no fetal DNA in the adenovirus nucleus
there is no monkey dna in the adenovirus nucleus

please stop wasting hours on this forum trying to find pre 2019 data to benefit your conspiracy. and instead spend those same hours learning about the glycoprotein thats in AZ covid19 vaccine

learn the limitations of what this glycoprotein can and cannot do.
learn the genetic sequence. learn that its length is not that of dna.
learn that it does not contain the 'programming' sequences

i really think you are trying to mix things up to try pushing a false agenda which many conspiracy theorists have been trying to push, that people are being injected by full length dna from a fetus kidneys trying to modify humans
so ill say it now and already said before.. there is not fetal dna. no fetus kidneys. in the vaccine
(the kidney DNA are used a manufacturing process in the lab manufacturing facility.. not in the final vaccine)

learn glycoprotein
learn the difference between the AZ lab manufacturing process. vs whats in the vials end product
..
as for your mis understanding of what happens inside the body after injection
best analogy for what seems to be your level of learning is the kitchen sink sponge analogy
soap does not reprogram a kitchen sponge to be something else
the sponge just does its normal job. soaks in things. and squeezes out other things.

EG
if you put pink milkshake dry powder on the sponge and push through milk.. what you get out is strawberry flavoured milkshake drink

if you put soap on the sponge and push through water. what you get is soapy bubbles

you have not reprogrammed a sponge to be a new and permanent milkshake maker. nor a permanent soap sudds maker.
the sponge is still a sponge, and just mixes whatever rna goes in with the cells nutrients to produce the thing people want at the end

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one last hint. just to save you time(years)
DNA does not leave the nucleus(meaning it doesnt leave the adenovirus).. mrna does.
whats been pushed out the adenovirus and into the patients arm muscle cell is mrna.
its the mrna that is the milk. which mixes with other ingredients to make milkshake once squeezed through a sponge(ribosome)

there is no 'programming'.. no firmware changing microsoft office suites translator.. its just a doc file being translated into a paper document
a .doc file cannot change Microsoft Word into Open Office document reader
its a doc file not a exe file.

its a glycoprotein converted into a spike protein
not a DNA double helix changing human muscle cells into monkey cells.

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emphasis:
DNA does not leave the nucleus. RNA does. crucial biological fact that busts your conspiracy theory
(no DNA exits the adenovirus nucleus)

[tvbcof]

disagree..
your grabbing lots of old data about outdated old tech.

the glycoprotein in the nucleus of the vaccine..

LOL.  You are literally stringing together random words.

is not a full length dna from the human growth factor.
there is no fetal DNA in the adenovirus nucleus
there is no monkey dna in the adenovirus nucleus

Never said there was.  That's a straw-man which is not even close to what I, or anyone else I know of, ever said.  There is synthesized DNA spliced into the adenovirus' DNA.  The adenovirus vectors it into the nucleus of the victim's cells.

This is not 'old' AstraZeneca tech.  It's how the current gene therapy trials that they are running on millions of victims work.

As funny as your random word soup is it gets old fairly quickly so it's not worth keeping.  Thanks for playing.  Time to call in your team leader and ask for a replacement for your whooped ass and for a re-assignment to a different subject because bio-medical is obviously not something you are up to.

For future reference, viruses don't have a 'nucleus'.  They are not even prokaryotes, much less eukaryotes.

[franky1]

For future reference, viruses don't have a 'nucleus'.  They are not even prokaryotes, much less eukaryotes.

i would have just confused you even more if i said nucleocapsid

i thought because you dont want to be specific about protein/rna therapy. you were not ready to handle the finer details of nucleocapsids

dont forget. i tried to be more sciency.. it was you that thought back wanting to be more basic by wanting to use the 3rd grader buzzword 'gene therapy' umbrella term

3rd graders understand nucleus is the bit that contains the nucleic acid and dna.
but anyway. while you play grammar nazi. crying when its too specific then crying when its 3rd grader basic.

the reality is ... the mrna comes out of the vaccine and is used by the ribosome to become a spike protein
the ribosome is not converted/mutated/hybridised. it acts like a sponge. it just mixes whatever is handed to it. and pushes out something else.
a kitchen mixing bowl is not re-programmed if one day you put flour and eggs into it. and another day you put chocolate and icecream

its the ingredients that determine the result. not the mutation of the mixing bowl
its the words in a .doc file that determine whats printed. not the upgrade of the printer firmware

you dont need to mutate the mixing bowl per snack
you dont need to upgrade the printer per document

the mrna that goes through the ribosome.. is not DNA

..
and please before you even dare now backtrack and say "i never said it did".. remember your whole mantra for many many months has been the billgates mutant human conspiracy.
and please dont even bother being a grammar nazi idiot saying 'i never said the words billgates mutant human'
the context of your bill gates gene therapy is you insinuating such. i know your hiding behind umbrella ambiguous words. but your just not that clever

[tvbcof]

...
the mrna that goes through the ribosome.. is not DNA

Which happens to be exactly what I said.

The additional DNA added to the nucleus of whatever cell happens to get infected by the chimpanzee adenovirus spins off mRNA.  That RNA exits the nucleus into the cells cytoplasm, finds a ribosome, and instructs the ribosome to start pumping out whatever proteins the DNA designers intended.

BioNTech and Moderna's 'mRNA' gene therapy platform differs in that instead of having the cell transcribe the mRNA from the genetically engineered DNA transfecting the cells nucleus, they build the mRNA in the factory, wrap it in protective lipids, and get it into the cytoplasm only.  It's a somewhat more controllable process though it's still pretty random what types of cells in the body suddenly start going crazy and spitting out crazy shit.  Could be a neuron in the central nervous system, could be a cell which makes platelets for the blood, could be just about anything.  Random chance.  Whatever the case, the body starts to not like that whole class of cell...and you might get a healthy 56 year old doctor dieing in a few weeks of thrombocytopenia.

Now that we've established the basic function of the AstraZeneca (Oxford) DNA-based gene therapy platform, I'll take things a little farther.  This for the benefit of my 'developing-world' friends.  AstraZeneca is destined for the populous countries.  Rich people seem to be happy to dig deep into their pockets to get doses for the poor people.  That's mighty nice of them wouldn't ya say?

India happens to be one of the populous countries, and also for historical reasons associated with the empire upon which the sun used to never set is perhaps more aware than most of the kind of institution Oxford tends to be.  Small wonder the factory destined to pump out the doses caught fire.  Out of a billion people there will be at least a few patriots.

Anyway, we've established that the DNA plasmids introduced into the effected cell spin round-n-round pumping out mRNA which moves out smartly to coax the cells ribosomes into producing virus parts (and God only knows what else.)  The body is supposed to learn to fight these virus parts.

Ever read the story 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice'?  Ya, it's like that.

It's possible that Oxford has thought about how to regulate the process of RNA transcription and thus non-normal proteins to which the body has an increasingly strong immune reaction.  It's also possible that they have not and could not give a shit less.  Trade secret.  Lots of trade secrets these days.

If one is relying on 'government oversight' to make sure that Big Pharma is looking out for the victims of their wares one has not been paying attention.  And lots of people will pay for this oversight with their lives I'm afraid.  Many more with their fertility I would guess.

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I'll keep warning the peeps of the dangers as long as you keep prodding me frank-n-beans.  Maybe longer; it's good for the soul.

[BADecker]

Being a member of a Private Membership Association (PMA) - as are all the citizens of their PMA government - has its perks. In the USA PMA, the government actually encourages PMA's that are not part of it. Operating within the purvue of a PMA in the USA takes the USA government almost entirely out of the picture. Search on it. And the best thing is that doing so is making the USA government stronger in ways that we hardly can conceive of.

[Tash]

Are More People Being Harmed by the Pfizer Experimental “Vaccine” than from COVID?
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/are-more-people-being-harmed-by-the-pfizer-experimental-vaccine-than-from-covid-israeli-population-now-the-worlds-lab-rats-sold-out-to-pfizer/

[tvbcof]

Are More People Being Harmed by the Pfizer Experimental “Vaccine” than from COVID?
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/are-more-people-being-harmed-by-the-pfizer-experimental-vaccine-than-from-covid-israeli-population-now-the-worlds-lab-rats-sold-out-to-pfizer/

I'm doubtful that Israelis are getting 'normal' vaccines.  To the degree that they are, I'd bet money that the semites (Arabs and Sephardi) are getting it and the Khazars (Ashkenazi) are getting something else.  Prophecy calls for 1/3 of the chosen to eat the big one on the next round, but I doubt that this is the right time for that to go down.

For people who do not know, Israel is a pretty ethnic supremacist place.  I once asked an Israeli friend of mine the difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardi.  He said that the Sephardi are 'the dumb ones'.  He was joking...sort of...  To put things into American context, the Sephardi would be kind of like the 'spics' or 'niggers' to the pure-blood Ashkenazi.

The Sephardi are good for taking the blame for shit.  Like, say, some 10 year old Arab kid is set on fire and burnt to death by the settlers.  If it can be said that the perp was a Sephardi, it's the first thing which you'll read about in the mainstream (Israeli) media...you'll never hear of it in the U.S. media of course.

Pfizer's CEO, a veterinarian of Greek nationality, is a Sephardic Jew by the way.  He's the guy who, when asked if he got the shot, says that the Pfizer vaccine is not for 'his type.'  I anticipate a lot more mention of the guy's ethnicity when the true nature of the Pfizer vaccine is out.

[erre]

Hello,

I am back as promised to inform everyone that two days ago i had my second vaccine dose.

I feel fine and i didn't felt any noticiable reaction, besides a slight pain.

Pray for my soul

[Gyfts]

Hello,

I am back as promised to inform everyone that two days ago i had my second vaccine dose.

I feel fine and i didn't felt any noticiable reaction, besides a slight pain.

Pray for my soul

No body aches, fatigue, low grade fever or anything?

Where do you feel the pain? The vaccine clinical trial data is online and only a few people in trials experienced any side effects - https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark

This varies greatly from the moderna vaccine where side effects were rampant during the second dose.

The vaccine is generally safe, but a lot of people say the second dose makes you feel like shit.

[franky1]

The additional DNA added to the nucleus of whatever cell happens to get infected by the chimpanzee adenovirus spins off mRNA.  That RNA exits the nucleus into the cells cytoplasm, finds a ribosome, and instructs the ribosome to start pumping out whatever proteins the DNA designers intended.

you said
spins off mrna instruct the ribosome to pump out whatever protein the DNA designer intended..

ha .. funny.
nice way for you to back track by now saying its not dna but now 'mrna instructions' and not DNA programming but 'instructions which a designer(labtech) intended

so thank you for admitting that no DNA goes through the ribosome process.

next you have to learn what the mrna can and cant do
the M in mrna is messenger. .. the message (.doc file) is not firmware.

..
anyway you seem to slowly be moving one step forward. so let just really clinche your motives of misinformation

your ambiguous buzzword of no particular meaning "gene therapy"
is your mindset for repeatedly using the word:
1. emphasising the 'therapy' part meaning helping someone medically to have better life prospects
2. emphasising the conspiracy of causing mutants and reprogramming people cells


if you answer 2. then it seems you are not ready for the next lesson.
so for one last time. lesson 1.
mRNA is not saRNA. nor is it modRNA nor is it tRNA nor is it rRNA. nor is it DNA


a little lesson in rna
DNA(using GCAT)
RNA(using GCAU)
notice that rna uses uracil(U) not thymine(T)

mRNA is not a bunch of code that reprograms ribosome to spurt out something completely differing
what happens is
if the sequence message was:
GCAACU -mrna
the ribosome will read (soak) in:
the G and know that G attaches to C
the C and know that C attaches to G
the A and know that A attaches to U
the A and know that A attaches to U
the C and know that C attaches to G
the U and know that U attaches to A

and what comes out is then
GCAACU -mrna
| | | | | |
CGUUGA-trna
and this happens without reprogramming the ribosome because the ribosome has always known what attaches to what.
GCAACU goes in.. CGUUGA comes out
milk&pink powder goes in.. strawberry milkshake comes out
soap&water goes in.. soap bubbles come out
the sponge has not changed

the message in rna is the ingredient list. not a pseudocode for a firmware update
there is no sarna.. so no self replication commands.. nor command to envelop itself and excrete it for other cells to latch onto

lesson two is fun as it then explains how the entangled mrna+trna (gcau lettering. not gcat lettering) then go through the rRNA process to be made into a protein a lil tip ahead of the lesson.
no firmware upgrades happen here either

but lets not skip to lesson two. because i dont think you realise the tRNA now entangled with the mRNA is not in the vial. there is no tRNA in the vaccine. its the simple locking the opposite to its messenger. no programming required.
nor is this entangled mRNA+tRNA declared as dna. because its still using uracil not thymine