Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[TravelMug]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

[Kemarit]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

If Fulton moves up without fighting Inoue then it's a clear duck to me. It's where the money is, so he should go and fight and see who comes on top. For sure  Akhmadaliev is more willing to fight Inoue then, we haven't heard from him to move up in weight class and he said that he wanted to test himself against the Monster.

And again, it doesn't make sense for Fulton to avoid Inoue because who will be his next fight that can bring more money in the table for him?

[LUCKMCFLY]

You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

Maybe true, maybe not. We can't just associate that with a form of cheating as maybe, that serves another purpose. Although, who knows?

Generally, from judges to referees, there's really a chance to manipulate results especially if the fight turned out close.

Because of that, I remember the Bivol-Canelo bout where there are speculations that if the fight instead turned out close the whole time, judges can easily score more points for Canelo every round. This fight turned the underdog Bivol into a superstar overnight.

I think in the Bivol vs Canelo, everything was wrong in the beginning, but the judges can't do anything to reward Canelo the win so they make it as close as possible. But we have seen the public making a uproar about the scoring, and who knows, if Bivol didn't dominate the way he did, maybe he could lose by 1 point in that fight and it could be a clear day highway robbery for Bivol. Good thing is that it didn't happen because it will be worst for the judges and Canelo Alvarez reputation. Sometimes its very clear if there is a biased based on the score by those judges.

I can sometimes understand how he feels about Canelo, but he is also a boxer who sometimes blurts out very ugly and I don't know if that's what Bivol doesn't like, Bivol is a boxer who can really mark the difference, in fact, what he seeks is to win the biggest titles possible to be able to execute a unique fame plan, and the truth is that Canelo is very talkative, and that is something that does not give him many privileges or more benefits, I feel that he does not give him Pay attention because of the way Canelo is, I also see that Canelo is sometimes not very professional, and any boxer doesn't like that, because it makes him look like a very street fighting style.

It appears we have another boxer who will be very exciting similar to how Manny Pacman was during his challenges in different weight divisions. However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions. According to this article he mentioned that he will be in the ring again on April or May! I speculate him to challenge Akhmadaliev first, before a unification superfight against Stephen Fulton on December.

He also mentioned that his body can reach the limit to featherweight.



Naoya Inoue became the ninth fighter to unify all four major titles in boxing's four-belt era.

Inoue is now looking to become the only male fighter to accomplish the feat in two weight classes.

"I believe I'm going to aim for it," Inoue said. "We'll need to develop a thorough plan."

The Japanese star will be heading up to 122-pounds, after knocking out British fighter Paul Butler in eleven rounds to unify the IBF, WBO, WBA, WBC world bantamweight titles.

Inoue plans to return on a date in April or May of the coming year.

The world titles at 122-pounds are owned by two undefeated fighters, Uzbekistan's Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Stephen Fulton of the United States - with each boxer holding two belts.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-i-go-far-featherweight--171207

Compete higher. I would love to see this happen. Make history. Break records. I bet the fighters in that weight division are itching to have a piece of Naoya Inoue but they will have to wait. I mean, who doesn't love good competition and fresh blood? 
"Thorough plan." Yes, he will need it as this is a new jungle that he will be up against. He may have dominated his weight class but I am sure the boxers in the next will not just give him what he wants to happen.
Challenges will pour out in his schedule.

Interesting to wait if who among these title holders will be Inoue's target to deal with and call for a challenge fight,
his comeback to formally announce his plan to move up will bring a big hype.

After dominating his current division, it will be a big challenge to him, those belt holders from 122lbs are also
excited to face him.

It would be a good risk for Inoue and whoever champ that he will challenge.

I think that we are all expecting that Inoue could have a challenge with one of those title winners, because it is something common that we want to see him in a new stage, for me Inoue is like one of those athletes who is always expecting to give his best, It doesn't matter what category he's in, he always seeks to have and be the winner no matter what, now I imagine that according to what he's seen he's a good fit with whoever he can fight to make himself known much more, I just imagine that when he starts fighting and have the same streak as before would be something like a scholar, it seems to be like that.

Inoue WBA December Boxer of the Month  – World Boxing Association

The World Boxing Association (WBA) released its December rankings and with them the individual awards, which went to Japan’s Naoya Inoue as Fighter of the Month and Daniel Dubois as Honorable Mention.

Inoue became the first Japanese-born undisputed champion in history after defeating Paul Butler by technical knockout in 10 rounds during their bout held in Koto-Ku on December 13. 

Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/57359-inoue-wba-december-boxer-of-the-month-world-boxing-association.html

[carlisle1]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.

[YuginKadoya]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

He is waiting badly for Inoue even prior to The Monster being the undisputed bantamweight champion.

Aside from him expecting a clash with Inoue, seems better to also see them in unification with Akhmadaliev.

I haven't seen any news about Stephen Fulton moving up a division, but here is a tweet that may prove that Stephen Fulton will really move up to 126



Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

I want it, and the fight was already hyped already, and if Stephen Fulton really is backing up and really scared of Naoya Inoue, certainly that is a good choice for him to do he might have seen something about the Inoue's fight against Butler that his made to now evade the Super Bantamweight division, I surely hope not and if he will be needed to fight Naoya Inoue then he needs to go down the weight again, for me this fight is already hype so it will be big in PPV,

[Ziskinberg]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.

If they want to make it happen, then I'm sure it will be close to reality. Fight for money instead, I mean, both fighters are popular, although they will not have a championship fight yet but they will definitely make a lot of money if they will give that anticipated fight to us.

[Baofeng]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.

If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.

Casimero just crack the top 10 of the latest rankings, he is ranked number 8 by the WBC, the belt that Fulton is holding right now, but in all over bodies, he is not listed yet.

So it might take some time for Casimero to have a crack of the world title, he still need to win 2 or 3 times in this division. And in his last fight it's not even sanction by any government bodies, so very hard for him right now at his new weight classes.

And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.

[danherbias07]

Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,

Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.

[Fredomago]

Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,

Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.

In that sense, more on protecting their names instead of protecting the belts. I don't have any idea if why he will climb if his weight still fits or if he can still maintain 122lbs, fighting Inoue will bring him money for sure, but if that's his decision or his camp see that he really have that chance to climb and challenge the current title holder then so be it.

All will be concluded once there's already updates coming from the social media channel, reputable sports website that will bring news regarding to any new information about it.

[Baofeng]

After Jose Ramirez turns down Regis Prograis because he was disappointed by the 65/35 purse split, now he chooses to fight the former Lightweight champion in Richard Commey to be his next opponent.

Fans say that it was a clear duck on his end, avoiding Prograis. We can't really tell because he is hiding on the purse split issue. Because he is a former champion and could demand higher in my opinion. But he has move forward already with RC so let's see if he can make good win here and probably he will get at least 50/50 purse split with the champion Prograis.



https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/12/jose-ramirez-vs-richard-commey-confirmed-for-march-25-in-fresno/

[goinmerry]

And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.

Guess I heard it too but not a thing that he will prioritize as I'm sure he wants to clear things first at 122 lbs.

Mainly, unifying all the titles at that division before moving up - which obviously fighting Akhmadaliev on the process.

But to never disappoint the fans, I hope the boxing council will step in and organize a fight to mandate Fulton having a mandatory challenger thru Naoya Inoue or make it possible for Fulton to face Akhmadaliev.

[danherbias07]

AfterJose Ramirez turns down Regis Prograis because he was disappointed by the 65/35 purse split, now he chooses to fight the former Lightweight champion in Richard Commey to be his next opponent.

Fans say that it was a clear duck on his end, avoiding Prograis. We can't really tell because he is hiding on the purse split issue. Because he is a former champion and could demand higher in my opinion. But he has move forward already with RC so let's see if he can make good win here and probably he will get at least 50/50 purse split with the champion Prograis.



https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/12/jose-ramirez-vs-richard-commey-confirmed-for-march-25-in-fresno/

For me too but of course, he won't admit it, that's protecting his pride and ego.
It was the opportunity to take the Super lightweight belt from Prograis which most boxers will be willing to take and yet he passed on the opportunity just because of the money issue. That doesn't sound right and the fans will surely create a theory about why and now it's become one of the trending talks.
I am not sure how he will become a champion by cowering like that. The only solution that I can see is when another boxer steals it from Prograis and then Ramirez thinks he can take the new champion even with an offer of the same split.

[YuginKadoya]

Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.

It is just what I think, for me, I really want to see 1st if he can dominate a fight in the super bantamweight division first well Stephen Fulton doesn't really show any posts or news of what he really thinks when moving up a division so there is a question mark in there, and he never really discloses that issue, and if he still wants to fight Naoya Inoue, but I am just making my comments why is he going up without unifying the belts in that Division, and I think Stephen Fulton is not really a power puncher, there might be a different version on what did I think why he does that but for now without anything that supports this my comment will not change that he might be really ducking Naoya Inoue,

Guess I heard it too but not a thing that he will prioritize as I'm sure he wants to clear things first at 122 lbs.

Mainly, unifying all the titles at that division before moving up - which obviously fighting Akhmadaliev on the process.

But to never disappoint the fans, I hope the boxing council will step in and organize a fight to mandate Fulton having a mandatory challenger thru Naoya Inoue or make it possible for Fulton to face Akhmadaliev.

Well, What I really like him to do is to unify the belt in that division, first after he fights Naoya Inoue because that will be a bigger money Unified champion VS a unified champion, or maybe Fulton is targeting Brandon Figueroa after going down again a division and this time unifying the belt in that division,

[mirakal]

Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

He is waiting badly for Inoue even prior to The Monster being the undisputed bantamweight champion.

Aside from him expecting a clash with Inoue, seems better to also see them in unification with Akhmadaliev.

There was indeed some rumors about Stephon Fulton that he will climb the upper division in the past but as of now, I'm not reading some articles about him anymore that is addressing his climb. So, I guess he won't be vacating those titles that he's holding and he can still fight with Inoue soon enough if the latter's camp will go directly after him to have a bite at those said titles. I'm thinking that if ever they will face each other, it'll be in the 2nd quarter of this year because Fulton still got an upcoming fight, right?

[bisdak40]

Casimero just crack the top 10 of the latest rankings, he is ranked number 8 by the WBC, the belt that Fulton is holding right now, but in all over bodies, he is not listed yet.

So it might take some time for Casimero to have a crack of the world title, he still need to win 2 or 3 times in this division. And in his last fight it's not even sanction by any government bodies, so very hard for him right now at his new weight classes.

And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.

The super bantamweight division is an exciting division now that Inoue is officially moving up to this weight category. But unlike Casimero, i do think that the Japanese Monster will be first to fight for either of the four belts because of his connection to Top Rank Promotion.

Casimero, sooner or later will have his time to face Inoue should he perform well and convince uncle Bob that he deserve a shot with his cash cow.

Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue is giving up his four bantamweight belts and plans to fight as a super bantamweight. The undefeated Inoue holds the title belts for the WBA, WBO, IBF and WBA. He made the announcement at a news conference in Yokohama, Japan, on Friday

[Ziskinberg]

The super bantamweight division is an exciting division now that Inoue is officially moving up to this weight category. But unlike Casimero, i do think that the Japanese Monster will be first to fight for either of the four belts because of his connection to Top Rank Promotion.

Casimero, sooner or later will have his time to face Inoue should he perform well and convince uncle Bob that he deserve a shot with his cash cow.

Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue is giving up his four bantamweight belts and plans to fight as a super bantamweight. The undefeated Inoue holds the title belts for the WBA, WBO, IBF and WBA. He made the announcement at a news conference in Yokohama, Japan, on Friday

This is a great news for the boxing fans, it will make the new division of Inoue more interesting to watch because he has not dominated it yet. We hope to see Inoue finally spar with Casimero in the ring, this is an anticipated fight because they didn't make it possible in bantamweight division.
I'm pretty sure that once Inoue will choose Casimero, there will be no problem with Casimero.

[chaser15]

We hope to see Inoue finally spar with Casimero in the ring, this is an anticipated fight because they didn't make it possible in bantamweight division.
I'm pretty sure that once Inoue will choose Casimero, there will be no problem with Casimero.

In the meantime though, John Riel Casimero just needs to build up his name in the 122 for him to be recognized as a good opponent for those top-ranked boxers there and champions. Even for let's say Naoya Inoue wants to fight Casimero, I doubt promoters will be interested to organize that fight with the current status of Casimero.

Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.

[harizen]

It's a good start that after the refresh of the rankings, WBC now ranked Casimero in 8th rank making it closer to the big fight they want in the Super Bantamweight. WBC Super Bantamweight is being held currently by Stephen Fulton.

As I mentioned before, Casimero's camp is working on the deal with Luis Nery but as of now, no fresh related to that regarding the progress and I doubt it will be materialized since Nery is currently the Rank 1 contender at the WBC Super Bantamweight. Maybe Casimero's camp should consider shifting their plan and try instead negotiating with either Hovhannisyan or Picasso before considering a much bigger fight.

[yazher]

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Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.

Poor Casimero he really needs to find a serious opponent that will gonna fight him fair and square inside the ring. We all know his last fight was a total comedy because his opponent is an movie actor. I agree he needs to fight one fight before facing Inoue and I'm sure it will be a dream come true for both of them since they were really wanted that fight to happen.

[Fredomago]

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Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.

Poor Casimero he really needs to find a serious opponent that will gonna fight him fair and square inside the ring. We all know his last fight was a total comedy because his opponent is an movie actor. I agree he needs to fight one fight before facing Inoue and I'm sure it will be a dream come true for both of them since they were really wanted that fight to happen.

If Casimero will be given a chance to have a good fight and he wins it the next stop for him is to find his way to challenge one of the top in ranks, not exactly the current champ but fighter who has a established name from this division, if he will manage to beat and become a good contender for the title chase.

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.