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October 01, 2023, 04:49:17 PM
 #1101

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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.
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AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.


Not 2 or 3 years. If I had to guess on the time before Artificial intelligence can be considering threatening towards the industry, it would take a combination of AI and also quantum computing, so an algorithm could somehow break the process behind provably fair gambling games.

Because, in the end it would not matter how powerful an AI is, because it would not have access to privileged information (protected by cryptographic keys) which are used to avoid bad actors to influence the outcome of the spins and rolls of dices in casinos.

Or at least, that is how I understand it is supposed to work, I am not necessarily the most illustrated person when comes to security software.  Tongue

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October 01, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
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A way to think about AI is to look at chess

will studying AI moves or playing against an AI help you become a chessmaster?
no it won't.

can it be used as a resource to help you improve and teach you new things, as well as study your mistakes and blunders? yes it can.
I think it is obvious that we are not going to end up with anything that would be "learnable" or whatever you want to call it from the AI itself because AI also learns from humans, so we teach AI what to do ourselves, then it does what we teach it to do. In that logic, that means if a human wants to learn from AI, they could very well learn from the people who gave AI all that information as well, and to be fair in the chess example, there are a lot of books and videos that can make you a great chess player. Doesn't mean you will be the best, but AI wouldn't make you the best neither.

So it is the same with any AI related thing, it will not help you get better more than what we already have, if you prefer AI as a tool to be better that's fine, but it wouldn't be suddenly a new thing, it already existed and just changed the wrap that's it.
AI is only but a tool and I think it is better used as an assistant because if it's used as the sole source to get all the needed information to get something done then I think there's definitely going to be a gap between desired results and what you actually get, let's not forget AI can't be logical enough as it is limited within the confined of information made available to it.

AI needs update in other to be efficient enough as the information AI has are usually imputed by humans so I a scenario where it's yet to be updated with recent happenings it's definitely going to give the old information which was made available to it as at the time it was been programed, so it's better not to totally depend on AI as it isn't 100% and can't be 100% reliable at anytime.

For football predictions you will agree with about how one needs be logical sometimes with their taughts and points of view inorder to make reasonable predictions but with AI as I stated earlier it's not logical it only make a cumulative of information supplies to it previously or over the times, so it's very possible AI will give wrong and unreliable predictions and for that reason I can not make use of it for my predictions.

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October 04, 2023, 12:32:18 AM
 #1103

~snip~
oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.
-
AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.


Not 2 or 3 years. If I had to guess on the time before Artificial intelligence can be considering threatening towards the industry, it would take a combination of AI and also quantum computing, so an algorithm could somehow break the process behind provably fair gambling games.

Because, in the end it would not matter how powerful an AI is, because it would not have access to privileged information (protected by cryptographic keys) which are used to avoid bad actors to influence the outcome of the spins and rolls of dices in casinos.

Or at least, that is how I understand it is supposed to work, I am not necessarily the most illustrated person when comes to security software.  Tongue
The thing is that everything related to quantum is somewhat complicated, not even the first quantum computer has come out yet, of course when it comes out it will be a boom, but it will be as backward at this time as when the Mark-1 was created, which is one of the things that we will see at most, but it will have to go through many generations before it can be valued as one of the best technological solutions, so it could be said that for now Quantum Computing, quantum mechanics cannot be so advanced and if it is we will not have access so quickly, for now I think that only the AI due to the training of the robot, well it can advance, I say that it is 2-3 years if the AI advances and they improve by optimizing each algorithm of the robot , but now everyone is amazed by Chat-GPT4, but we cannot assume that this is only the maximum, they must make robot programs that are more advanced, that have better optimization than we even know about, of which there are only the hau, but We don't know until something extraordinary happens, I don't think AI will be able to break the Blockchain either, because it is something that goes much further than that, Quantum Computing many think that it can do it without me however everything is theory, and the kisses of theory They have their limits, then practice can be the real thing, what we must adhere to.

At one point I did have to program AI, when I was at the U, but the truth is that it seemed like a very crazy program to me, the truth was that it was difficult to understand, now it is still the same, it is not like programming in microcontrollers, which You can program in C and from there transfer it to assembler, on the other hand, AI is another bear, the console and everything in practice seems very crazy to me and you have to have very clear and precise recommendations in everything, in a database in a structured program, something that is achieved by reading at least 5 books and it turns out that one falls short with so much scope that AI has, that's why I think that in some time everything will be in a more optimized way.

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October 04, 2023, 01:55:32 AM
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I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

Of course, you could have an AI assistant that talks to an AI of a company to say, make you an appointment.

It is basically going to be the new API. AIs talking to other AIs.

There is no problem with it

yes, and it's even fascinating to consider all the possibilities on that
like a new world that opens up full of new things we have no idea will be created

I'm really amazed on the quality of images created by AI at this point, as an example

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I’m still looking for people to give me recommendations on how and what I should AI in order to try and generate gambling predictions. I had better get on it because I’d love to kick off the NBA season this year with a thread predicting games. Maybe even throw some money at it for fun. If you have any experience playing with AI in this manner, PM me.

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like a new world that opens up full of new things we have no idea will be created

I'm really amazed on the quality of images created by AI at this point, as an example

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So, I tried to use Google Bard AI for sports betting, and it was wrong 8 times out of 10. When Bard was predicting a player to be Anytime Goalscorer, and I said he's not playing today because he's injured, Bard replied: "I apologize ... I am still under development ..." and probably that's why it was wrong with its other predictions too. If you've made 10 predictions and got only 2 of them right, it's not impressive, is it?

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So, I tried to use Google Bard AI for sports betting, and it was wrong 8 times out of 10. When Bard was predicting a player to be Anytime Goalscorer, and I said he's not playing today because he's injured, Bard replied: "I apologize ... I am still under development ..." and probably that's why it was wrong with its other predictions too. If you've made 10 predictions and got only 2 of them right, it's not impressive, is it?

Many people have said that betting is all about data analysis, and they may even be right, because when a team has 11 starting players who always win a lot of games and on a given day, 3 of the best players from the starting 11 and lose the game against a very weak team, so this defeat is marked in history, that is, in the next game, when the bookmakers see that they are again playing without 3 of their best players, then the bookmakers will place a high odds for that team and If their opponent is an average opponent, then bookmakers are likely to place the average opponent as the favorite

By this I mean that the AI will have to be used for other things that are not related to predicting game outcomes, because if people are trusting the AI to predict the outcome of games and placing bets based on the AI's predictions then people will lose money constantly, this is because sports betting has things that change every moment, while a player can be seen as the most important player on the team and is irreplaceable and due to his absence the team will lose, it may be the case that there will be another good player available on the team

but this good player doesn't play often, because there is no data about him available on the internet, but there are videos that show him playing in training and when a person looks at the video they can easily see that the player who will play as a substitute for The better the team plays, they will be able to play a good role and therefore betting on the team that has very high odds due to the lack of their best player will be a good option. AI could not do this, only a human could analyze

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October 05, 2023, 06:09:07 PM
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we don't need quantum computers or going so far to find good prediction models that can have an edge against the house in sports betting
there's people already creating models like that using data science and programming

there's lots of data available for sports and people can use this data sets to study profitable ways to bet

I saw some people doing so in instagram this days like leandrowar

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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

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AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.


Not 2 or 3 years. If I had to guess on the time before Artificial intelligence can be considering threatening towards the industry, it would take a combination of AI and also quantum computing, so an algorithm could somehow break the process behind provably fair gambling games.

Because, in the end it would not matter how powerful an AI is, because it would not have access to privileged information (protected by cryptographic keys) which are used to avoid bad actors to influence the outcome of the spins and rolls of dices in casinos.

Or at least, that is how I understand it is supposed to work, I am not necessarily the most illustrated person when comes to security software.  Tongue
Techonoligical advancement is something that inevitable but we shouldn't really be that hope for those things to happen soon yet there  would really be tons or industries that would really be mainly be affected once quantum computing would really be already that available or has been created. We know that the current ChatGPT did really make that entrance on which it did really hype up the entire world about its usage and relevance but of course there would really be those assumptions that had been made on.

Yeah, the generation of media from an AI has exploded lately.

We now have music, videos, images, and text generated by an AI that can be as good as what a human can make.

And the cool thing is that it is just getting better every month and year
It would becoming more better and better as the years passing by on which advancement would really be  there and its something inevitable.
We dont know on how far iwould really be able to reach out but we know that as long that it would really be continually to be developed then expect
that it could really be able to be more useful to humanity but the fact that there would really be some cons on some corners or things but doesnt matter
which as long it would really be outweighing those risks by its utility then this what matter the most.

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October 06, 2023, 12:24:27 AM
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~snip~
yes, and it's even fascinating to consider all the possibilities on that
like a new world that opens up full of new things we have no idea will be created

I'm really amazed on the quality of images created by AI at this point, as an example

Yes, it is almost like a second, or even third wave of amazing technology coming to people and many are left behind.

It is like they say, future is already here, it's just that it is not evenly distributed.

In some countries or areas you feel like living in the future while in others you still feel like stuck in the past.

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October 06, 2023, 04:31:05 AM
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It would becoming more better and better as the years passing by on which advancement would really be  there and its something inevitable.
We dont know on how far iwould really be able to reach out but we know that as long that it would really be continually to be developed then expect
that it could really be able to be more useful to humanity but the fact that there would really be some cons on some corners or things but doesnt matter
which as long it would really be outweighing those risks by its utility then this what matter the most.
AI's future development will definitely be much better so that AI can be truly useful for humanity and can help human activities. That is the goal to be achieved so that humans can benefit from the presence of AI. But for now, we have to wait for the developments carried out by each developer, especially for AI which will later be used to guess the results of matches. Maybe AI can calculate a team's win rate percentage based on previous matches. But now, the results may not be as accurate as we want so we still have to look for additional information.

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October 06, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
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So, I tried to use Google Bard AI for sports betting, and it was wrong 8 times out of 10. When Bard was predicting a player to be Anytime Goalscorer, and I said he's not playing today because he's injured, Bard replied: "I apologize ... I am still under development ..." and probably that's why it was wrong with its other predictions too. If you've made 10 predictions and got only 2 of them right, it's not impressive, is it?

Many people have said that betting is all about data analysis, and they may even be right, because when a team has 11 starting players who always win a lot of games and on a given day, 3 of the best players from the starting 11 and lose the game against a very weak team, so this defeat is marked in history, that is, in the next game, when the bookmakers see that they are again playing without 3 of their best players, then the bookmakers will place a high odds for that team and If their opponent is an average opponent, then bookmakers are likely to place the average opponent as the favorite

By this I mean that the AI will have to be used for other things that are not related to predicting game outcomes, because if people are trusting the AI to predict the outcome of games and placing bets based on the AI's predictions then people will lose money constantly, this is because sports betting has things that change every moment, while a player can be seen as the most important player on the team and is irreplaceable and due to his absence the team will lose, it may be the case that there will be another good player available on the team

but this good player doesn't play often, because there is no data about him available on the internet, but there are videos that show him playing in training and when a person looks at the video they can easily see that the player who will play as a substitute for The better the team plays, they will be able to play a good role and therefore betting on the team that has very high odds due to the lack of their best player will be a good option. AI could not do this, only a human could analyze
Its interesting that a lot of people believe sports betting is just about data, but there's more to it than that, isnt it? The human element of the game is being lost if we only use AI to make predictions. Lets say a star player is injured and the replacement is a beast in training but has little to no internet statistics. That would be completely lost on AI, wouldn't it?

You make a valid point: AI might not be able to discern subtleties that humans do, such as the atmosphere created by instructional videos. Bookies will surely realize the significance of these "hidden gems" if we humans do. They may be ahead of the game, adjusting the odds in light of these revelations. Thus, perhaps, just perhaps, in the realm of sports betting, AI and human intuition go hand in hand.

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October 06, 2023, 01:12:47 PM
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So, I tried to use Google Bard AI for sports betting, and it was wrong 8 times out of 10. When Bard was predicting a player to be Anytime Goalscorer, and I said he's not playing today because he's injured, Bard replied: "I apologize ... I am still under development ..." and probably that's why it was wrong with its other predictions too. If you've made 10 predictions and got only 2 of them right, it's not impressive, is it?

Many people have said that betting is all about data analysis, and they may even be right, because when a team has 11 starting players who always win a lot of games and on a given day, 3 of the best players from the starting 11 and lose the game against a very weak team, so this defeat is marked in history, that is, in the next game, when the bookmakers see that they are again playing without 3 of their best players, then the bookmakers will place a high odds for that team and If their opponent is an average opponent, then bookmakers are likely to place the average opponent as the favorite

By this I mean that the AI will have to be used for other things that are not related to predicting game outcomes, because if people are trusting the AI to predict the outcome of games and placing bets based on the AI's predictions then people will lose money constantly, this is because sports betting has things that change every moment, while a player can be seen as the most important player on the team and is irreplaceable and due to his absence the team will lose, it may be the case that there will be another good player available on the team

but this good player doesn't play often, because there is no data about him available on the internet, but there are videos that show him playing in training and when a person looks at the video they can easily see that the player who will play as a substitute for The better the team plays, they will be able to play a good role and therefore betting on the team that has very high odds due to the lack of their best player will be a good option. AI could not do this, only a human could analyze
Its interesting that a lot of people believe sports betting is just about data, but there's more to it than that, isnt it? The human element of the game is being lost if we only use AI to make predictions. Lets say a star player is injured and the replacement is a beast in training but has little to no internet statistics. That would be completely lost on AI, wouldn't it?

You make a valid point: AI might not be able to discern subtleties that humans do, such as the atmosphere created by instructional videos. Bookies will surely realize the significance of these "hidden gems" if we humans do. They may be ahead of the game, adjusting the odds in light of these revelations. Thus, perhaps, just perhaps, in the realm of sports betting, AI and human intuition go hand in hand.

I'd say it depends, I saw this guy who did a model that removes all bias from decision, only uses data
and the model is overall profitable, I think he's up more than 70% in some months or something like that

so, there are ways to do it without emotion/human decisions.

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October 06, 2023, 03:23:21 PM
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~snip~
Its interesting that a lot of people believe sports betting is just about data, but there's more to it than that, isnt it? The human element of the game is being lost if we only use AI to make predictions. Lets say a star player is injured and the replacement is a beast in training but has little to no internet statistics. That would be completely lost on AI, wouldn't it?

You make a valid point: AI might not be able to discern subtleties that humans do, such as the atmosphere created by instructional videos. Bookies will surely realize the significance of these "hidden gems" if we humans do. They may be ahead of the game, adjusting the odds in light of these revelations. Thus, perhaps, just perhaps, in the realm of sports betting, AI and human intuition go hand in hand.

I think that at the end of the day AI should be able to "watch" and process those practice videos and form an opinion just like how a human would do.

AI can also integrate information from many other sources and watch multiple video streams faster than the time of the videos, which would be impossible for a human.

I think AI has the potential to be better than humans in pretty much every area, eventually

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October 10, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
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Techonoligical advancement is something that inevitable but we shouldn't really be that hope for those things to happen soon yet there  would really be tons or industries that would really be mainly be affected once quantum computing would really be already that available or has been created. We know that the current ChatGPT did really make that entrance on which it did really hype up the entire world about its usage and relevance but of course there would really be those assumptions that had been made on.

I have always thought about something, when a technology is being born it is harmless, it cannot do much, it has the acceptance of everyone, even children themselves, they can manipulate it, but we cannot allow ourselves to be amazed by what man can achieve, in In the middle of everything, we ourselves can be creating the aram that will be our executioner, and then we cannot ask for mercy, because things are like that, every time AI advances, there will be many threats, not for now, there are many that are in the stage Beta, they have errors, their information is extracted from the internet directly, things are not as they should be, it is something common, personally, right now I would not worry, but later I will, because there are more trainings of the robot, there is more time, the algorithms are more perfect, it could be that the robber has much more logic, and that is where the bad thing begins, by having more logic he thinks better than Natural Intelligence, and that is something that does not We must allow, but control, an AI must be controlled, because at the least expected moment it will control us, and that is not the idea, AI has advanced, yes but to a certain point, and those advances that for me are nothing, many people They marvel, many want to be in the spotlight and be participants and protagonists.


Enthusiasm is not bad, it's good, the bad thing is as time goes by, things with AI will develop more, as I said, there may already be robots that calculate at least the end of the number pi, something that the being human under his own criteria and tools has not been able to give, however this for an advanced AI it will do it in 3 seconds, so this is the only thing we must take into consideration, it will beat us in speed, and that is not good, it will come in that an AI will handle many jobs, it will take possession of many high-care objects, because since it is unbiased, they have no emotions or walk, then man will believe that he can trust.

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October 11, 2023, 06:29:44 AM
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I'd say it depends, I saw this guy who did a model that removes all bias from decision, only uses data
and the model is overall profitable, I think he's up more than 70% in some months or something like that

so, there are ways to do it without emotion/human decisions.

That's what I thought. It's all about a perfectly written prompt, right? My failed experiments with AI predicting outcomes don't prove anything. This was only a first try and I didn't think of a good prompt that much, I just wrote the first thing that came to mind. Yes, AI was wrong 8 times out of 10, but the same AI helped me to win 22x of my bet



I think I will be experimenting more with it. Maybe AI plus with some human corrections is the answer.

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October 11, 2023, 06:39:33 AM
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Its interesting that a lot of people believe sports betting is just about data, but there's more to it than that, isnt it? The human element of the game is being lost if we only use AI to make predictions. Lets say a star player is injured and the replacement is a beast in training but has little to no internet statistics. That would be completely lost on AI, wouldn't it?

You make a valid point: AI might not be able to discern subtleties that humans do, such as the atmosphere created by instructional videos. Bookies will surely realize the significance of these "hidden gems" if we humans do. They may be ahead of the game, adjusting the odds in light of these revelations. Thus, perhaps, just perhaps, in the realm of sports betting, AI and human intuition go hand in hand.

I think that at the end of the day AI should be able to "watch" and process those practice videos and form an opinion just like how a human would do.

AI can also integrate information from many other sources and watch multiple video streams faster than the time of the videos, which would be impossible for a human.

I think AI has the potential to be better than humans in pretty much every area, eventually

I have never thought of this but it may as well be very much possible after some time and of course no human being can check that many resources in such a short amount of time,it can help make better decisions when placing live bets and that could be a good start for AI helping humans winning a bit in sport betting.Of course that AI would be used by the casinos too and they would put mechanisms in place to protect themselves by changing the odds faster and thus leaving many of us without the possibility of betting.

I think that only when AI will be developed to check a lot of resources before a game starts and make a decision that statistically will be the best,that would be a good start.

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October 12, 2023, 02:35:53 AM
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I have never thought of this but it may as well be very much possible after some time and of course no human being can check that many resources in such a short amount of time,it can help make better decisions when placing live bets and that could be a good start for AI helping humans winning a bit in sport betting.Of course that AI would be used by the casinos too and they would put mechanisms in place to protect themselves by changing the odds faster and thus leaving many of us without the possibility of betting.

I think that only when AI will be developed to check a lot of resources before a game starts and make a decision that statistically will be the best,that would be a good start.

At the moment there is no reliable way to determine if a text was written by AI or a human.

In the same way, there will probably be no way of determining a bet was the output of an AI or a human intuition.

Casinos will probably will have to keep an eye on someone winning too much money, but they won't be able to know why, and all their checks would come back reporting that the gambler has done nothing wrong.

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October 13, 2023, 05:39:48 PM
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I'd say it depends, I saw this guy who did a model that removes all bias from decision, only uses data
and the model is overall profitable, I think he's up more than 70% in some months or something like that

so, there are ways to do it without emotion/human decisions.

That's what I thought. It's all about a perfectly written prompt, right? My failed experiments with AI predicting outcomes don't prove anything. This was only a first try and I didn't think of a good prompt that much, I just wrote the first thing that came to mind. Yes, AI was wrong 8 times out of 10, but the same AI helped me to win 22x of my bet



I think I will be experimenting more with it. Maybe AI plus with some human corrections is the answer.

what makes you think this wasn't just luck but something taht is replicable and you can implement in a profitable way over time?

congratulations on the win and I'd be really happy to lose 8 out of 10 if my 2 wins got me a huge multiplier like that, but remember this could have been just luck, like a complex looking RNG asnwer created by an advanced LLM, but still no different than throwing dice.

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