[ANN] Cinni | Mandatory: Convert your Cinni to Stakecoin. Instuctions posted.

[sdersdf2]

sdersdf2 is building a list of resources, and who is doing what.

Let's see what that list looks like, and plan our course of action.

Hope to come out with that Monday - in the meantime, would really help if I heard from more people about:
1) whether you're still in CINNI and would like to help
2) how could you help

[azzman372]

Hi all,
I've been trying to send some cinni from the latest wallet and I'm getting the "Transaction creation failed" error. I've tried removing the wallet and deleting the app data after dumping the priv key and redownloaded the wallet and bootstrap file, waiting for it to import and resync, imported my priv key, waited for that to sync and it is still failing to send the transaction.

[digit]

Hi all,
I've been trying to send some cinni from the latest wallet and I'm getting the "Transaction creation failed" error. I've tried removing the wallet and deleting the app data after dumping the priv key and redownloaded the wallet and bootstrap file, waiting for it to import and resync, imported my priv key, waited for that to sync and it is still failing to send the transaction.

did you try restarting the wallet after the import and sync?

[cinblo]

azzman372,
"Transaction creation failed" error is when you try to create a transaction from a large number from change address so the system can't sent into blockchain is too big in bytes.
So, the solution for this type of error in general is this :

From your qt-wallet click "send coins" section, click on "inputs" (if you don't have this button you need to activate coin control features in menu settings - options - display submenu - flag on display coin control features)
You need to read the number inside () for every address you have , you can read this in the first column of coin control.
You see a table like that :
 ()    Amount    label   address   date   confirmation   priority
If in the () you have a large number like many hundreads or thousands you need to split in some transactions you cannot send with a single transaction.

Also if you don't use qt-wallet but you use cinnicoind daemon you can check with list unspent command and you can do a raw transaction.

If someone would make a video I can link on cinniblock.com or if someone would translate better in good english maybe mine is too bad to understand  

[azzman372]

digit, yep i've tried that

cinblo, I have over 1200 transactions due to staking. How many do I need to split this into ideally?

Can't wait for the cinni community to get back together =)

[cinblo]

digit, yep i've tried that

cinblo, I have over 1200 transactions due to staking. How many do I need to split this into ideally?

Can't wait for the cinni community to get back together =)

if 1200 in one address you can do 3 transactions of 400 or 4 of 300.

I want tell you, when your machine prepare one transaction so big, depend of your machine but is not immediate, you need to waiting some time. In windows seems like to halt/freeze but you need only to wait    

[azzman372]

if 1200 in one address you can do 3 transactions of 400 or 4 of 300.

I want tell you, when your machine prepare one transaction so big, depend of your machine but is not immediate, you need to waiting some time. In windows seems like to halt/freeze but you need only to wait    

Thank you! This finally worked. It took some time to split the transactions up but it is all good now.

[cinblo]

if 1200 in one address you can do 3 transactions of 400 or 4 of 300.

I want tell you, when your machine prepare one transaction so big, depend of your machine but is not immediate, you need to waiting some time. In windows seems like to halt/freeze but you need only to wait    

Thank you! This finally worked. It took some time to split the transactions up but it is all good now.

Thank you for your feedback!
I suggest you next time send a little bit before into another your address/wallet.
I calculated for compound interest at 3,5% yearly, optimal solution is do staking one time a week, more, is not necessary about financial aspect.
So, after one week you have 2 change address, after 2 weeks you have 4, after... 8 , 16 , 32 , 64 , 128 , You can stop here or another one week again, and like every 2 months you can send on another your address/wallet in one unique transaction.
So you don't lose staking percentual in this time and about 2 months is maybe a good time to do this job again or waiting good news  

[future_quark369]

if 1200 in one address you can do 3 transactions of 400 or 4 of 300.

I want tell you, when your machine prepare one transaction so big, depend of your machine but is not immediate, you need to waiting some time. In windows seems like to halt/freeze but you need only to wait    

Thank you! This finally worked. It took some time to split the transactions up but it is all good now.

Thank you for your feedback!
I suggest you next time send a little bit before into another your address/wallet.
I calculated for compund interest at 3,5% yearly, optimal solution is do staking one time a week, more, is not necessary about financial aspect.
So, after one week you have 2 change address, after 2 weeks you have 4, after... 8 , 16 ,32 64, 128, You can stop here or another one week again, and like every 2 months you can send on another your address/wallet in one unique transaction.
So you don't lose staking percentual in this time and about 2 months is maybe a good time to do this job again or waiting good news  

thank you now it is clear

[xtrix]

it is ridiculous to see that the main cinnicoin.com webstite is sill not updated as of may 2014. How can the value ever go up when there is not even a normal place to have all update info together and always the latest version of the wallet... 

[cinblo]

it is ridiculous to see that the main cinnicoin.com webstite is sill not updated as of may 2014. How can the value ever go up when there is not even a normal place to have all update info together and always the latest version of the wallet...  

You can find the latest version for all the different platforms into www.cinniblock.com website or you can directly download latest version for Windows here wallet.cinniblock.com

[cinblo]

Cinni blockchain updated bootstrap.dat file at
Block 658171 Sep 1, 2014 13:08:50 UTC
https://www.dropbox.com/s/arrzdqjeth8ld75/bootstrap.dat
or simply bootstrap.cinniblock.com

[demgains]

cinni is scheduled for removal in the Mintpal V2 release

http://blog.moolah.io/2014/09/01/mintpal-v2-tentative-market-listing/

[cinblo]

cinni is scheduled for removal in the Mintpal V2 release

http://blog.moolah.io/2014/09/01/mintpal-v2-tentative-market-listing/

to all the people who care about our coin :
immediately contact mintpal to add Cinni in this list as soon as possible.
Don't speculate about that please , is not the final list.

[skip60]

cinni is scheduled for removal in the Mintpal V2 release

http://blog.moolah.io/2014/09/01/mintpal-v2-tentative-market-listing/

for the one who doesnt know, cinni is not in the list of mintpal v2.

it is better someone (i dont know who is that someone, hopefully not CinniCoin, otherwise it will take a year) contact mintpal about cinni

otherwise cinni will be delisted from mintpal...dont forget moolah has taken over mintpal, mintpal has new owner now

[2520]

Damnit Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[sdersdf2]

Pre-Community-Takeover Discussion



A few weeks ago, after battbot left, Schild_ temporarily took over as unofficial/volunteer community manager and did what he could to help guide the CINNI community to a recovery. He got busier in his own personal life and a few days ago asked me to step in. Over the past few days, I've tried to figure out a way to put CINNI on a sustainable recovery path and asked for a "roll call" of the community to find out who was still out there, who was still engaged and what each of you could offer.

The response was... well, not what I had hoped. Here's all the PM from my inbox on this, obscured with AAA to respect privacy:

hi there,

i wish u best luck and profit, but mintpal issue is something serious, u should solve mintpal problem before they delist cinni

Hi

I am a Cinnicoin Nut who would like to help.
I have been in the Coin since day one.
I hold about 50,000 coins.
This is my wallet address
<XXXXXX>
I have other coins in cryptsy and Mintpal.

I have a reseller account at Heart internet so I can offer free unlimited website hosting, and email.

I want this coin to be a success.

Let me know if I can help.

Thanks

is there anything i can do to help cinni? i cant develop coin but im holding some

If we get the keys to the website, I can help out managing the current website. Else I can clone the website to a new host and fork the communication of the project.

Right now the website is implemented in Wordpress, which can be nice and easy to use, but is resource heavy and a pain to move to a new host. We could end up choosing a light NoSQL structure like Monstra. Easy to use for editors, but also easy to maintain.

I'm sticking around, lost fair amount of money in cinni but coin has good features that just need a boost to get going again.

No real skills, but i'll post here and there, trollbox news, donate some coins. Followed silk coin through its takeover so may as well follow cinni.

im still with cinni
I can take care of twitter/facebook/reditt or any other news posting or any other thing like that.

 i dont have any coding knowledge sorry

That was about it.



In my rough survey of other community takeovers, I've concluded the following ingredients are critical to improving the odds of success and reducing the odds of failure:
1) the coin has to be led by a friendly, communicative, responsive, easy-going, high-frequency-posting C++/Python developer (it can not just be run by a non-coder community manager) like the BTCD dev or the NEOS dev
2) greater engagement from the rest of the community
3) some really new feature or a feature that does what others are doing in a whole new and much more effective way
4) a successful plea to the exchanges to give the coin more time to recover
5) more resources - managing a community to success is now a full-time job. Most of us have real lives outside of bitcointalk. Managing a community on a 7-day a week basis, which is increasingly what is needed to sustain confidence, is not something that can be done on a sustainable basis without some kind of compensation for the time and labor.
6) speed

So with the above said and looking at the reality, I think CINNI needs a relaunch with a new strategy developed by a new dev who
1) takes complete ownership of the coin as his own
2) fixes the existing wallet problems
3) devises a plan to recreate the coin with new features and new branding, to enhance the perception of newness
4) reluanches the coin (allowing owners of old cinni to exchange for the new coin 1:1, perhaps similar to what Summercoin/Navajocoin did) with either some kind of premine or ICO (milestone-staggered or otherwise) to sustain the new round of development and community management

So, I'd propose that the first step needs to be finding a new dev willing to takeover the reins - one who has compelling idea for a new plan.
I'd propose codecaffienecode, if he isn't a sockpuppet account, but he's been nowhere to be found for several weeks. Mindfox, who I tried recruiting has not been communicative and is probably overwhelmed with other tasks or put off by the previous round of discussion that went nowhere because of Cinnicoin dev's previous stubborness/silence - Cinnicoin dev may have dragged this out too long.

The more general problem is, devs who best fit the bill might be more motivated in many cases to either launch their own coins or work with other, healthier coin communities. In any case, I think this first step of finding a dev to take the lead is essential

In the meantime, I'd nominate agent725 as a permanent community manager - he seems to have the energy and some of the marketing elements needed to make a go of it.

Open to any other thoughts or recommendations, particularly if I missed any major considerations here.

[newb4now]

https://twitter.com/CinniTeam/status/507119527889735680

[pawlo74]

https://twitter.com/CinniTeam/status/507119527889735680

Have you got Moolah contact link ? can't find it  

[fox19891989]

Cinnicoin will be delisted from Moolah V2? It is a sad story, it was top 3 biggest volume coins when it pumped to 38k sat, very sad about that. I will remember Cinni in the future days. I will be with Cinni