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August 06, 2014, 07:23:00 PM
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I would ask our big investors to colaborate a little and figure out a marketing plan for our coin . If you arnt already do, just my .02 vrc

This is exactly what people started asking for in the Quark thread 6 months ago. Where is QRK now? Exactly where it was six months ago.

Well if comparing coins we do. Than lets mention dogecoin .
They did marketing and it worked , i dont say we should do it now.
But later when our coin is more loaded with cool features like decentralized exchange.


Let me explain you how good marketing would work than.
First of all i want you to  understand how bad coinbase bitpay and co is for crypto.

The idea of Bitcoin was to decentralise money so everyone can have his own vault of value at home and nobody but your self can access it.
It turned out bitcoin transactions are to slow to work good in real work applications , so bank like institutions where created like bitpay where bitcoin transactions where made instant by dealing them centralised in a inner ledger and promising costumers to give them their bitcoin back when ever they want. But as long as those customers keep bitcoins on those exchanges and use the instant transaction service , they dont trade bitcoins to each other. They trade a promise from bitpay. And do you know a promise from bank is worth? Right . shit.

So in order to use real valued stuff we need to use cryptocoins to send each other value without any middlemen AND it should be fast. We dont need crypto exchanges  , we need nerdy tricky stuff to swap that directly without a middlemen involved.

Several centurys ago bank did that shit with gold , what coinbase and bitpay do with Bitcoin and thats how fiatmoney was created the biggest scam in human history!!! Enslavement.

If we let them do it again people soon will wonder hmm... Why again we use bitcoin trusts? ? Its the same fiat shit again.
So to prevent this we need to be able to put a blockchain above bitcoins blockchain which is faster doesnt consume so much power and is as safe as bitcoin. And i want vericoin to be that blockcain above bitcoins and we are doing the right stuff in the right direction with veriBit.

As soon as we have a decentralised exchange, vericoin can ensure merchants they can recive fast transaction vericoin due to buisness hours and than if they feel safer with bitcoin convert their vrc on the dec-ex into bitcoin and simontaniously give vrc for those who want buy with fast transactions tommorrow .Win Win and no bitpay scammer bastard is needed. With smart contract we could even help the goverment by ensuring contracts that would fucking lead our all economy in a new age where we have less law suits about this shit. We tax payers would safe soooooo much money and no inflasion anymore.

So what i want to say is . bitcoin really is Gold and but we need something fast as cash and vericoin can be its cash . we as a cryptocommunity , and i am not speaking only for vericoin right now, need to prevent to get scammed by banks again keep our crypto on our own usb sticks.


So pls devs make that happen ! Free the world once again from scammers (banks) and i am sure satoshi nakamoto would be proud of you.




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August 06, 2014, 07:23:28 PM
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I know of the MintPal fiasco, then the devs decided to roll back (fork?) the blockchain...which some people dont like (it suggests they could do this in the future/bail out exchanges?)...but apart from that what else is going on?

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IMO the roll back was a huge setback to this coin, now given their options at the time... roll back vs double spends or worse. I think they chose the lessor of two evils.

But it brings up the question, could other devs for other coins roll back the block chain as well? This could be a HUGE trust issue when dealing with insidious devs.

Also it appears the wikipedia page for VRC has been deleted due to poor sources. It was done late last month, this could be corrected as soon as possible.

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August 06, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
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There is a big big demand to get an exchange in which assets are not steal able. Neither by the people running the exchange neither by hackers. The single point of failure hurt a lot of people. There is no exchange I am currently trusting. Mt. Gox, Poloniex, Mintpal and other have proven again and again there will also be a point of failure. In the end it doesn't matter if a Government, an admin or an Hacker creates this situation where assets are gone.

You are absolutely right in emphasizing the importance of a blockchain 2 app, you are also absolutely right that the devs should forget all meaningless features and focus on the blockcain 2 function and it would be great if you could get this message through to the DEVs. Personally I think a decentralized market place, like a next decentralized Ebay that uses vericoin would be significantly bigger than a decentralized exchange, plus as users would trade with vericoin in the decentralized market place the demand for vericoin and consequently the price would sky rocket. Having said that, obviously the decentralized exchange would be great as well. Basically, any applications would be great that can be labelled as a blockhain 2 application.

Step:
1.) Create a base the exchange could operate on. Possibly a unique Blockchain 2.0 ? I am not sure if a decentralized exchange could even operate on the current blockchain.
 2.) Create the exchange. Just a simple test version integrated into the Vericoin Wallet to find problems.
  3.) Make the exchange accessible over the browser. Create an Veri-exchange only Wallet
   4.) Add Altcoins

That's the main issue, how to achieve step 1.
For example Bitcoin use the OP_RETURN output in the transaction so you could say the bitcoin blockchain supports smart contracts in that sense. It seems to me the VeriCoin raw transaction could have OP_RETURN output as well so it is possible to build blockchain 2 apps on the top of that. At least my understanding was that the bitcoin devs suggest to use the OP_RETURN output and build blockchain 2 features top on that, but I could be wrong. Other projects like Viacoin take a different route and uses existing infrastructure like Counterparty which make sense too. I am sure that will work for them. If I would be the dev I would take the Ethereum route so it would be a contract entity and that could create messages instead of the transaction or collection of the transaction is the contract. In this case I guess you would need a ledger for the contracts, but wouldn't have to mess with the blockchain.

Either way lots of development, but I am sure the talented VeriCoin devs can manage that. If they need help the community could put together a 60-80K fund to hire peoples.



Seems like many are in favor of blockchain 2. Lots of positive requests past few days, keep it up guys !  Cheesy Similar to the roadmap, it would be a good idea to list all the community feature request so that the devs can have a clear outline. We will help move this coin forward. In the long term, decentralized exchange would be ideal, I no longer trust any exchanges with my coins, I buy / trade, move them out to my wallet asap.

 
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August 06, 2014, 08:38:48 PM
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I know of the MintPal fiasco, then the devs decided to roll back (fork?) the blockchain...which some people dont like (it suggests they could do this in the future/bail out exchanges?)...but apart from that what else is going on?

Cheers

IMO the roll back was a huge setback to this coin, now given their options at the time... roll back vs double spends or worse. I think they chose the lessor of two evils.

But it brings up the question, could other devs for other coins roll back the block chain as well? This could be a HUGE trust issue when dealing with insidious devs.

Also it appears the wikipedia page for VRC has been deleted due to poor sources. It was done late last month, this could be corrected as soon as possible.

I'm not an expert in this field but from my basic understanding; yes another dev team could rollback a coin but it wouldn't have an effect unless 51% of the wallet clients also accepted the fork and moved to the new blockchain (as the VRC community did).

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August 06, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
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Man you guys bitch and moan alot about many irrelevant things.  You guys sure do like to argue and flex your e-penis.  There is a very SIMPLE solution.  Those of you who really believe in VRC, fucking buy more!  Build confidence in it again, and more people will start to buy in because they won't want to be left in the dust on the next wave.   If you want out, go ahead and sell us your cheap coins.  If I had more BTC (which I should but I pussed out on cloak) I would buy in at least 5BTC if I could.   I don't really see how it can be at least around .0005.   Not sure if this coin will ever reach higher than .001 because of the sheer quantity of coins (too many IMO).  

I know some of you that believe in this have plenty to chunk at it.  Hyping some new addition to software is pointless until it is actually implemented.   I'm honestly surprised somebody hasn't pumped it already.   There isn't that many sell orders getting in the way (at least on crypsty).   Anyways, if I had made better decisions this month i would have already thrown 10 BTC and just bought in until I couldn't anymore haha... Ez money IMO.  Can't really lose with buying in now, wish I had and why you should never listen to anybody but your own intuition.
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Man you guys bitch and moan alot about many irrelevant things.  You guys sure do like to argue and flex your e-penis.  There is a very SIMPLE solution.  Those of you who really believe in VRC, fucking buy more!  Build confidence in it again, and more people will start to buy in because they won't want to be left in the dust on the next wave.   If you want out, go ahead and sell us your cheap coins.  If I had more BTC (which I should but I pussed out on cloak) I would buy in at least 5BTC if I could.   I don't really see how it can be at least around .0005.   Not sure if this coin will ever reach higher than .001 because of the sheer quantity of coins (too many IMO).  

I know some of you that believe in this have plenty to chunk at it.  Hyping some new addition to software is pointless until it is actually implemented.   I'm honestly surprised somebody hasn't pumped it already.   There isn't that many sell orders getting in the way (at least on crypsty).   Anyways, if I had made better decisions this month i would have already thrown 10 BTC and just bought in until I couldn't anymore haha... Ez money IMO.  Can't really lose with buying in now, wish I had and why you should never listen to anybody but your own intuition.
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Has any really been far even as decided to use even go want to do lock more like?
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August 06, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
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^ feel bad for you lololol!   You should lay off the xanax bro.  Yet more pointless post from a conceited arrogant simpleton.  You sir are verigay. Hahaha.  You are that guy taking it in the ass in the Jim Carey picture Lolz!I

Quite obvious you don't want VRC to succeed.  You are too retarded to even make an intelligent response.  Just a fail fat troll who is mad because your ass is too fat that your bfs tiny dick can't penetrate your anal cunt.  Hope people like you end up getting hacked and lose your ass. You are just lucky you can hide behind your computer. Don't need worthless shitters like you.  Peace bitch.

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Man you guys bitch and moan alot about many irrelevant things.  You guys sure do like to argue and flex your e-penis.  There is a very SIMPLE solution.  Those of you who really believe in VRC, fucking buy more!  Build confidence in it again, and more people will start to buy in because they won't want to be left in the dust on the next wave.   If you want out, go ahead and sell us your cheap coins.  If I had more BTC (which I should but I pussed out on cloak) I would buy in at least 5BTC if I could.   I don't really see how it can be at least around .0005.   Not sure if this coin will ever reach higher than .001 because of the sheer quantity of coins (too many IMO).  

I know some of you that believe in this have plenty to chunk at it.  Hyping some new addition to software is pointless until it is actually implemented.   I'm honestly surprised somebody hasn't pumped it already.   There isn't that many sell orders getting in the way (at least on crypsty).   Anyways, if I had made better decisions this month i would have already thrown 10 BTC and just bought in until I couldn't anymore haha... Ez money IMO.  Can't really lose with buying in now, wish I had and why you should never listen to anybody but your own intuition.
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Has any really been far even as decided to use even go want to do lock more like?

Man...I laughed so hard at this response!

Everyone in the office is laughing at too....classic
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August 06, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
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Hey hey hey I thought that while a bit abrasive it was a valid post, we do need to try and buy out the manipulators so that the price can return to a normal growth trend and attract even more investors
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August 06, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
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hey guys lets keep the positive flow going in here eh?
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The sound quality is bad.
And what's up with this troll? "nyktalgia"
You want to dump your coin right?  It sounds more to me that you want to buy more or else I don't get why you are here and talk shit
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The sound quality is bad.
And what's up with this troll? "nyktalgia"
You want to dump your coin right?  It sounds more to me that you want to buy more or else I don't get why you are here and talk shit

Has everyone drank too much cool-aid?  Am I the only one who is sane?  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.     You are like a child wandering into a movie.... No frame of reference!   It's none of your fucking business what I do I was just trying to make a positive suggestion and maybe stir an intelligent conversation, but obviously that is impossible with feeble minded mentalities.  Keep proving my points but you are no less of a troll than anyone else.  I should know better than to expect a logical argument with most people(I refer to you as a droned zombie or sheeple) in this dwindling age filled with narcissism, greed, and mommy teatsuckers who can't even wipe their own arse.

I agree tho it sounds horrid, and I thought you would be talking about pertinent information, not playing shitty ass music.

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August 07, 2014, 12:22:03 AM
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BLA BLA BLA
Good point, look at your last posts and tell me you are trying to be positive. You know you have to be intelligent to have an intelligent conversation or at least act like it, right? Now go bang your head some more.
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August 07, 2014, 12:25:46 AM
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The sound quality is bad.
And what's up with this troll? "nyktalgia"
You want to dump your coin right?  It sounds more to me that you want to buy more or else I don't get why you are here and talk shit


yes this is a known issue because of the ghettofabulous setup that we have lol but we are working on getting it fixed

and nyktalgia as far as the "shitty ass music" goes some peoples taste in music is different, I do talk about pertinent information if you take the time to listen when I talk BETWEEN the songs, but I guess this is the thanks I get from you for trying to promote your ideas on here and calm the community, last time I try to help you. Ignore button pressed.
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August 07, 2014, 12:31:31 AM
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You still mad mad.  It's okay keep crying about it cause your bleep is too small to fit in his fat bleep. Lol. Just realized that was your bf.  Its okay to laugh at how retarded he is but you might probably take the cake in that arena lolpilollilololol haha u are Milton in the office .

Your vulgarity is impeccable, what are you 11 years old ?


ROFL!  Yes I'm 11 and undeniably more intelligent and cunning than those quarter-witts.   Bahahahahahaha!
bahahahahahah do you realize how ignorant you sound ?
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August 07, 2014, 01:17:43 AM
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Hey Socal,

First off wanted to say that was a nice job providing that updating roadmap for where we are as a coin.

Second, do you have any idea when the dev team will be doing their next live hangout? There have been so many ideas and suggestions and brainstorming being thrown around I would love to hear directly from the source what the state of the state is.

Also I'm curious to why the hard fork has created such a delay!!! in moving forward with all the other projects. I can understand the initial setback over the weekend and maybe a few days following but it seems odd that that is still being thrown out there as a reason for why things are taking longer than expected. Is there any explanation as to what happens days/weeks after the attack.

Even though I'm asking you, if a dev wants to jump on and answer these questions I would greatly appreciate it. I'm only asking you because I know you're well connected  Wink
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August 07, 2014, 01:24:24 AM
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Hey Socal,

First off wanted to say that was a nice job providing that updating roadmap for where we are as a coin.

Second, do you have any idea when the dev team will be doing their next live hangout? There have been so many ideas and suggestions and brainstorming being thrown around I would love to hear directly from the source what the state of the state is.

Also I'm curious to why the hard fork has created such a delay!!! in moving forward with all the other projects. I can understand the initial setback over the weekend and maybe a few days following but it seems odd that that is still being thrown out there as a reason for why things are taking longer than expected. Is there any explanation as to what happens days/weeks after the attack.

Even though I'm asking you, if a dev wants to jump on and answer these questions I would greatly appreciate it. I'm only asking you because I know you're well connected  Wink

I think all the complaints about the devs not making deadlines just led them to work with ninja launch's, I am sure when we hear something it will no longer have a date but it will be here when announced. Just a guess Wink
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August 07, 2014, 01:49:50 AM
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Hey Socal,

First off wanted to say that was a nice job providing that updating roadmap for where we are as a coin.

Second, do you have any idea when the dev team will be doing their next live hangout? There have been so many ideas and suggestions and brainstorming being thrown around I would love to hear directly from the source what the state of the state is.

Also I'm curious to why the hard fork has created such a delay!!! in moving forward with all the other projects. I can understand the initial setback over the weekend and maybe a few days following but it seems odd that that is still being thrown out there as a reason for why things are taking longer than expected. Is there any explanation as to what happens days/weeks after the attack.

Even though I'm asking you, if a dev wants to jump on and answer these questions I would greatly appreciate it. I'm only asking you because I know you're well connected  Wink

I think all the complaints about the devs not making deadlines just led them to work with ninja launch's, I am sure when we hear something it will no longer have a date but it will be here when announced. Just a guess Wink

Yeah, that seems to be the direction they are going. Not that it's a bad call - but a big part of the reason I enjoyed this team so much was due to the transparency they used to provide. Since the whole MP hack I haven't had a clue what is really going on =/ other than rumors and speculation.

One of the hardest parts of being a dev is setting a date and then following-up with your word. Knowing these guys have "real lives" outside of crypto on top of the fact they are no longer setting public deadlines seems to be the prefect storm for not getting projects done.

I'm not trying to spread FUD (well maybe a little Shocked) but that's just my thought
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