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August 08, 2014, 01:54:13 AM
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just checking in on the good folds in the VRC community how are things going. Has there been any thing i missed have not been in here for like 6-7 days but i dont want to read 31 pages lol.  Smiley


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August 08, 2014, 02:24:45 AM
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Decentralize exchanges needs to come quicker then the speed of sound at this point. This is what all coins should be working on in my opinion.

You are absolutely right, the devs should focus on that.

I didn't think the devs ignore the community's input. I understood and remember they said on the hangout that they monitor the thread - they just don't have time to reply. That's fine, no one expect the devs permanent presence here. However, when such an intense discussion is on the thread like it was yesterday about the blockchain 2, Galix and others had concrete suggestions on the subject, plus other coins push very hard the technology, plus the money is clearly flowing to blockchain 2 related coins, then I think it would be very necessary that the devs would put a 5 minutes effort into the process and at least say something about the topic, so the community and potential investors would understand what will be the vericoin blockchain 2 strategy.
I think it is very important for potential investors to understand at least in principle the process and directions. For example I understood what Viacoin is aim to achieve with their blockchain 2 ClearingHouse, it seems it will be based on CounterParty, it is a very high level info, but it was good enough for me to get some Viacoin and right now I have more viacoin then vericoin (and I still have quite a lot vericoin but it is a different issue). Other people with money did the same, based on the very high level information bought into Viacoin. And we invested in the same way into Ethereum, except that I know Buterin and Gavin Wood and about their work for long, but most of the investors just invested based on a high level info. There is no word from the vericoin devs regarding what's the idea/direction about blockchain 2 never mind design or implementation details.  

Thanks for pointing out I should go to IRC and ask questions about the subject, but I think the devs should come here and instead of sharing some info with me on IRC they should share the info here with everyone. The blockchain 2 related info from the devs could be important for others as well, mainly for potential investors, so I believe that info should be here in this repository.
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August 08, 2014, 02:47:28 AM
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VRCRadio.com is off the air due to technical difficulties. We will make every effort to be up and running for our LIVE! broadcast tomorrow Friday August 8th @ 10 AM EST

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August 08, 2014, 02:54:08 AM
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Good posts. It does seem VRC is doing things the hard way. Making flashy things that need to be marketed hard and to the right people.

Instead they should be focusing on things that will attract people with little marketing. Although doing that is much harder. Like blockchain 2.0. Which a lot of coins are doing and a few are doing very seriously. Of course the first coins to do it will get the most money and then the coins that are late to the party won't get much attention. It is almost too late unless you are already started. By the end of the year there should be a few coins on top coinmarketcap.com that are blockchain 2.0 while all the other coins start falling as people move on.

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August 08, 2014, 04:43:58 AM
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Great coin, great community, great development team. VeriCoin is the best investment opportunity right now.

Wow, a lot's changed for you in 1 month, eh?  For those of use newer to the forum, would you mind stating one of the good ideas that the devs are ignoring.  Maybe pick the best one and restate it.  It'd be really cool if you could do it without all the rude and condescending language that you seem to enjoy typing so much.

Nothing really changed, I said here yesterday that this is still one of the best coins, I always say the devs are great, nice, honest guys, nothing wrong with the community except the Wizrig associate hype making cheerleaders do nothing good for the coin.

I think we all have gotten tired of Joels hype. He has not done anything for our coin and lately I see him promoting other coins. I am pretty sure he is not attending or participating in meetings etc. because he know the rage he would get from us. I am one of the people that defended him because I wanted to give him a chance. He promised promised promised with his rolodex of golden phone numbers, singers, entertainment industry, BIG PEOPLE. The moment I first saw him I am pretty sure we all came to the conclusion that this guy is riding the white pony. I am one of VRC's biggest backers and am happy he is no longer here. So lets not talk about him again, unless he actually decides to do all the things he said he would the first 10 hours he spoke in the google live chat.

Moving on.... I do not think they are ignoring the good ideas, blockchain 2.0 is a great idea, decentralized exchange is a great idea. other ideas like usernames, anonymous chat, anonymous videos, upgraded wallet, website, etc are all little things compared to decentralizing the exchange. I live in New York and Ben Lawsky is about to fuck us big time by putting regulations in place for bitcoin that once again favor the corporations already in place that have money and fuck us little people who cannot pay for permits, fines, etc due to the regulations. They will clamp down on the exchanges..... Decentralize exchanges needs to come quicker then the speed of sound at this point. This is what all coins should be working on in my opinion. Hope that anwsers your question.

As far as what this coin has is.. Transparent developers which is very risky for them to come out in the open due to crazys out there that may backlash, this shows they are genuine unlike most coin devs. The Devs are very intelligent in the this field and have whole hearted interest in creating a great coin. We have a great community that have many developers in it including myself. Vericoinish.com was done in my spare time.  The coin was rated by and economist as one of the most economically sound coins.  PoS which allows everyone to be a miner by leaving their wallet open,( I always hated the fact that 1 rich guy can afford a billion miners and rape any coin they wanted.). Thats just my 2 cents, if you have any question definitely go to VRC irc channel and you can get answers on the spot and many times directly from the devs.

+1 decentralised exchange priority.  Smiley
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August 08, 2014, 05:13:00 AM
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When autumn rolls around and Bitcoin increases visibility on Wall Street and large investors come back to the alt. market looking to invest, they're going to have specific criteria.  One criteria item will be highly visible, public devs and not ones hiding behind screen names.

oh nice, so even more money into ethereum Grin

whoever sells below 29k now must be a complete retard....
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August 08, 2014, 07:22:35 AM
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So, I just thought I'd come in here to share my experience with Vericoin.

In short, I was new to crypto, bought in to VRC during the big pump at around 30k, as it looked like it had real promise as becoming a real currency.

During that time the devs were posting here nearly every day with updates, deadlines, road maps, the works.

Then the rollback happened.. I still believe that the devs made the best decision at the time and handled it well with the rollback etc. They did the best they could.

Since then though, they've been almost entirely absent. Very few posts, and the posts they have made have been vague at best. It really seems to me like they have given up on the coin and are just not wanting to go public with the fact as yet. Socal here has basically been the only person giving any updates at all on new developments, and even still they have been vague. So many things "nearly finished" for so long?? Where's the website? It's not hard to make a website like that. It should take maximum one day to completely rewrite the Vericoin website. iOS wallet? Yeah a but harder so I can understand it taking longer, but still it was "nearly done" weeks ago..

I honestly now believe that the devs have been stringing this out as long as they can while they unload their coins. Stringing along Socal in the process (or perhaps he is in on it and doing the same?).

If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet that we will never see any more updates to VRC. The devs are done with it, they're gone. The only new stuff is coming from desperate bagholders trying to hold things together, and doing at least an ok job I'll admit.

One last question I have here which has puzzled me the whole time is this:

Why did pnosker transfer 200k VRC from his wallet to exchanges right after the rollback? Apparently this was to somehow protect the coin? But you would meet BTC on the exchanges to do that right? So why then? Where are the coins now? Have the devs released their wallet addresses recently to show they are still holding? Again, I'd bet that they have not.

Call it you favorite word "FUD", call it what you like. This has been my experience with Vericoin.

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So, I just thought I'd come in here to share my experience with Vericoin.

In short, I was new to crypto, bought in to VRC during the big pump at around 30k, as it looked like it had real promise as becoming a real currency.

During that time the devs were posting here nearly every day with updates, deadlines, road maps, the works.

Then the rollback happened.. I still believe that the devs made the best decision at the time and handled it well with the rollback etc. They did the best they could.

Since then though, they've been almost entirely absent. Very few posts, and the posts they have made have been vague at best. It really seems to me like they have given up on the coin and are just not wanting to go public with the fact as yet. Socal here has basically been the only person giving any updates at all on new developments, and even still they have been vague. So many things "nearly finished" for so long?? Where's the website? It's not hard to make a website like that. It should take maximum one day to completely rewrite the Vericoin website. iOS wallet? Yeah a but harder so I can understand it taking longer, but still it was "nearly done" weeks ago..

I honestly now believe that the devs have been stringing this out as long as they can while they unload their coins. Stringing along Socal in the process (or perhaps he is in on it and doing the same?).

If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet that we will never see any more updates to VRC. The devs are done with it, they're gone. The only new stuff is coming from desperate bagholders trying to hold things together, and doing at least an ok job I'll admit.

One last question I have here which has puzzled me the whole time is this:

Why did pnosker transfer 200k VRC from his wallet to exchanges right after the rollback? Apparently this was to somehow protect the coin? But you would meet BTC on the exchanges to do that right? So why then? Where are the coins now? Have the devs released their wallet addresses recently to show they are still holding? Again, I'd bet that they have not.

Call it you favorite word "FUD", call it what you like. This has been my experience with Vericoin.

I wish you all the best of luck in your futures!



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but it's true that the devs are very quiet at the moment. No Posts, no hangouts, nothing. I investet in VRC only because i trusted these guys. I hope it was the right decision and they will post a Statement in here that they are still active and confident to make VRC successfull

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First off, the new website is up what are you talking about?

Secondly, the devs have been posting updates just not as often because they have been WORKING and have had things happen in their REAL LIVES, Pat just had a loss in his family and has been out of state and Doug is busy hammering out the new wallet UI.

They also JUST did a hangout with Chris Prillo last week, not to mention what would they POSSIBLY gain from dumping and running when everyone knows their names, their faces and where they live?

Monkeys dude seriously I have talked to you before you want out I can't and won't stop you, but honestly what is more important, the Devs CONSTANTLY posting in here all day everyday EVERYTIME somebody gets shakey or them doing their jobs as Devs and DEVELOPING? They should just say screw development and the necessary marketing/business relations building to handhold every weakhand?

Not to mention look at the current market MASSIVE buy support on bittrex AND most coins are staking which means demand outstrips supply at this point. We have fuel and we have flame, not long before we get fire.

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Oh ya and not to mention the things that are being worked on that HAVENT been annouced because of legalities/proto-status so go ahead get out now, but make sure you are prepared to make a public apology later on when we get back to/past 30k

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And they learned from what happened directly after the MP Hack that all of their timetables got pushed back and they could no longer guarantee the Deadlines because of time lost fixing the hack and because of Real Life demanding more of their time. So therefore they are no longer putting out as many or as detailed updates BECAUSE of peoples tendency to act irrationally everytime they were a few hrs late with a release or a reply. Oh ya and some of these features are being done by third parties not the Devs the VeriBank and iOS Wallet are being made by COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEVS NOT PAT DOUG OR DAVE so please tell me how they are supposed to give you hard timetables and updates on things they aren't even working on. Thats like somebody asking ME for an update or deadline on YOUR work.

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August 08, 2014, 09:08:52 AM
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oooh i can't wait to see you all panic buy soon...muahhahha are all the kids sad it went back to 10-12k boo hoo lol thats good considering it came up from 400sat to 55k sat. any normal educated person would understand that no coin ever can go from 400sat to 100ksat .. now think like a big boy and ready up for the next wave cause its gonna be one hell of a show lol... coin is top! devs are top! watch and learn kids!
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When autumn rolls around and Bitcoin increases visibility on Wall Street and large investors come back to the alt. market looking to invest, they're going to have specific criteria.  One criteria item will be highly visible, public devs and not ones hiding behind screen names.

oh nice, so even more money into ethereum Grin

what the fuck is ethereum? sound like gay porn and people really put money into this kind of crap? UNBELIEVABLE

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When autumn rolls around and Bitcoin increases visibility on Wall Street and large investors come back to the alt. market looking to invest, they're going to have specific criteria.  One criteria item will be highly visible, public devs and not ones hiding behind screen names.

oh nice, so even more money into ethereum Grin

what the fuck is ethereum? sound like gay porn and people really put money into this kind of crap? UNBELIEVABLE

Ethereum is probably the biggest thing since Bitcoin if they don't fuck up hard.
That's the reason why they collected over 12 Million $ in BTC in the presale already.

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When autumn rolls around and Bitcoin increases visibility on Wall Street and large investors come back to the alt. market looking to invest, they're going to have specific criteria.  One criteria item will be highly visible, public devs and not ones hiding behind screen names.

oh nice, so even more money into ethereum Grin

what the fuck is ethereum? sound like gay porn and people really put money into this kind of crap? UNBELIEVABLE

Ethereum is probably the biggest thing since Bitcoin if they don't fuck up hard.
That's the reason why they collected over 12 Million $ in BTC in the presale already.

and i hope it's gonna flop, so i can have a good laugh

whoever sells below 29k now must be a complete retard....
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oooh i can't wait to see you all panic buy soon...muahhahha are all the kids sad it went back to 10-12k boo hoo lol thats good considering it came up from 400sat to 55k sat. any normal educated person would understand that no coin ever can go from 400sat to 100ksat .. now think like a big boy and ready up for the next wave cause its gonna be one hell of a show lol... coin is top! devs are top! watch and learn kids


zzzzzzzzzz waiting. . Grin haven't sold any yet..
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August 08, 2014, 11:32:52 AM
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So, I just thought I'd come in here to share my experience with Vericoin.

In short, I was new to crypto, bought in to VRC during the big pump at around 30k, as it looked like it had real promise as becoming a real currency.

During that time the devs were posting here nearly every day with updates, deadlines, road maps, the works.

Then the rollback happened.. I still believe that the devs made the best decision at the time and handled it well with the rollback etc. They did the best they could.

Since then though, they've been almost entirely absent. Very few posts, and the posts they have made have been vague at best. It really seems to me like they have given up on the coin and are just not wanting to go public with the fact as yet. Socal here has basically been the only person giving any updates at all on new developments, and even still they have been vague. So many things "nearly finished" for so long?? Where's the website? It's not hard to make a website like that. It should take maximum one day to completely rewrite the Vericoin website. iOS wallet? Yeah a but harder so I can understand it taking longer, but still it was "nearly done" weeks ago..

I honestly now believe that the devs have been stringing this out as long as they can while they unload their coins. Stringing along Socal in the process (or perhaps he is in on it and doing the same?).

If I was a betting man, and I am, I would bet that we will never see any more updates to VRC. The devs are done with it, they're gone. The only new stuff is coming from desperate bagholders trying to hold things together, and doing at least an ok job I'll admit.

One last question I have here which has puzzled me the whole time is this:

Why did pnosker transfer 200k VRC from his wallet to exchanges right after the rollback? Apparently this was to somehow protect the coin? But you would meet BTC on the exchanges to do that right? So why then? Where are the coins now? Have the devs released their wallet addresses recently to show they are still holding? Again, I'd bet that they have not.

Call it you favorite word "FUD", call it what you like. This has been my experience with Vericoin.

I wish you all the best of luck in your futures!



One of the best posts I have read here, you just summarized what many people think about this process. And many people are in the same situation like you are, we bought in vericoin believing in the presentation of the Wizrig & Co & Dev hype-making combo. It is fully understandable you are wondering what's happening around the coin when the devs don't have 5 minutes to share their view here on development related suggestions. I don't understand too what's happening and why the devs can't reflect on intelligent suggestions like what Galix's submitted here (especially, that in the meantime they have time to chat on IRC).

Personally I don't think the devs started this process to pull off a scam & dump trick even if they were making the hype with wizrig. The devs seems are honest guys, they don't scam people, plus they are intelligent professionals and they know such scam and cause loss for many people would remain on their CV forever. I guess things just did not work out so far, but it is never late for a change. The question is will the process change, the devs start to focus on features that matters (blockchain 2) and listen to what the community say instead of communicating only with the 1-2 prominent members of their cheerleading brigade? I am not sure.
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but make sure you are prepared to make a public apology later on when we get back to/past 30k


I understand you are on a mission to make this process work, even it seems you have reloaded your firmware and lately you entered into a hardcore cheerleading crusade mode, but the first person who should make a public apology here is you. You have been calling people here and on IRC retard, idiot, bipolar and all kind of offensive names and telling fuck off anyone who dared to question the intention and integrity of your saviour Wizrig. You were the most vocal supporter and foot soldier of the scammer wizrig, so a sorry for the investors who believed in your hype would be quite necessary in my opinion.
After perform a hard reboot on your crusade robot firmware and when you come back please make sure you don't command people what to write here, what to think and how to see this process. When you are not here with your usual "price going to sky rocket soon" nonsense actually there are lots of very interesting, reasonable and sensible suggestions appear here.  
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First off, the new website is up what are you talking about?

Secondly, the devs have been posting updates just not as often because they have been WORKING and have had things happen in their REAL LIVES, Pat just had a loss in his family and has been out of state and Doug is busy hammering out the new wallet UI.

They also JUST did a hangout with Chris Prillo last week, not to mention what would they POSSIBLY gain from dumping and running when everyone knows their names, their faces and where they live?

Monkeys dude seriously I have talked to you before you want out I can't and won't stop you, but honestly what is more important, the Devs CONSTANTLY posting in here all day everyday EVERYTIME somebody gets shakey or them doing their jobs as Devs and DEVELOPING? They should just say screw development and the necessary marketing/business relations building to handhold every weakhand?

Not to mention look at the current market MASSIVE buy support on bittrex AND most coins are staking which means demand outstrips supply at this point. We have fuel and we have flame, not long before we get fire.

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Oh ya and not to mention the things that are being worked on that HAVENT been annouced because of legalities/proto-status so go ahead get out now, but make sure you are prepared to make a public apology later on when we get back to/past 30k

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And they learned from what happened directly after the MP Hack that all of their timetables got pushed back and they could no longer guarantee the Deadlines because of time lost fixing the hack and because of Real Life demanding more of their time. So therefore they are no longer putting out as many or as detailed updates BECAUSE of peoples tendency to act irrationally everytime they were a few hrs late with a release or a reply. Oh ya and some of these features are being done by third parties not the Devs the VeriBank and iOS Wallet are being made by COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEVS NOT PAT DOUG OR DAVE so please tell me how they are supposed to give you hard timetables and updates on things they aren't even working on. Thats like somebody asking ME for an update or deadline on YOUR work.

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Devs are on IRC more often than here and I STILL have yet to see you join IRC (unless you use another nick on IRC, but if you did then you would know Doug was in there earlier tonight talking to people) so how about you do a lil research before making allegations.

Look Socal, I didn't meant anything against you personally. I've even praised your efforts here several times as I honestly believe you are doing some good work here.

But c'mon, I said that I was just sharing my experience with Vericoin. I think calling me a retard is a bit of a harsh response. So you know what, you're the retard.. I've heard you speak, I've discussed relatively complex ideas with you. You're not so smart. I'm not sorry to say.

You still haven't answered my final question either. Where are your beloved Patricks 200k VRC that he transferred to the exchanges?

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whoever sells below 29k now must be a complete retard....
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Look Socal, I didn't meant anything against you personally. I've even praised your efforts here several times as I honestly believe you are doing some good work here.

But c'mon, I said that I was just sharing my experience with Vericoin. I think calling me a retard is a bit of a harsh response. So you know what, you're the retard.. I've heard you speak, I've discussed relatively complex ideas with you. You're not so smart. I'm not sorry to say.

You still haven't answered my final question either. Where are your beloved Patricks 200k VRC that he transferred to the exchanges?

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When autumn rolls around and Bitcoin increases visibility on Wall Street and large investors come back to the alt. market looking to invest, they're going to have specific criteria.  One criteria item will be highly visible, public devs and not ones hiding behind screen names.

oh nice, so even more money into ethereum Grin

what the fuck is ethereum? sound like gay porn and people really put money into this kind of crap? UNBELIEVABLE

Ethereum is probably the biggest thing since Bitcoin if they don't fuck up hard.
That's the reason why they collected over 12 Million $ in BTC in the presale already.

We saw so many flop show before too, when they earn very good money on presale,
but after that nothing happen and innocent people lost money so much.



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