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July 12, 2014, 02:51:52 AM |
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buy4crypto,
+1 Agreed, I have also referred this coin to several of my other friends as I do see some interesting points revolving around Vericoin.
Taking aside all the debate of the technological innovations (claiming of credit, who's got a slightly better model, etc.), I see VRC is taking a very different route in terms of marketing/promotion than the many coins out there.
The targeting of "mass-public" rather than the "crypto-pioneers/traders" is really what will give VRC the true and stable value it deserves in the future.
The devs were smart to target the 99.9% (mainstream & every-day life adoption) instead of the 0.1% (where it is highly susceptible to pump-n-dumps and price manipulations).
It's really a blue ocean vs. red ocean strategy here, and this is the direction that most institutional and reasonable investors would be happy to see.
Very good points. Well, thank you very much for your reference to blue ocean vs red ocean. I've been stuck in a red ocean lately and need to find some blue ones to get to where I want to be. /Cheers
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Xosihc
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July 12, 2014, 03:09:39 AM |
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500 VRC will be awarded to listeners during the Open Beta Launch of VRCRadio Tommorow
http://www.vrcradio.com/
Triva, Dedications, Fun, Crpto chat
VRCRadio is targeting newbies and the GP
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ALL R Welcome Sorry to say but I'm going to miss the launch of this show tomorrow - but I love the idea and will check back in later in the week
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FUD_master
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July 12, 2014, 03:11:27 AM |
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Hey guys cool coin
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lootz
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July 12, 2014, 03:11:46 AM |
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500 VRC will be awarded to listeners during the Open Beta Launch of VRCRadio Tommorow
http://www.vrcradio.com/
Triva, Dedications, Fun, Crpto chat
VRCRadio is targeting newbies and the GP
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ALL R Welcome Good to see, VRC trying to build strong community. Kick ass site bro nice job. Need some type of volume normalizer, Some songs are low and some are loud.
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TimC
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July 12, 2014, 03:40:29 AM |
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500 VRC will be awarded to listeners during the Open Beta Launch of VRCRadio Tommorow
http://www.vrcradio.com/
Triva, Dedications, Fun, Crpto chat
VRCRadio is targeting newbies and the GP
BUT
ALL R Welcome What time will the Radio show launch. How would we claim the coins?
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July 12, 2014, 04:48:15 AM |
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maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol
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FUD first & ask questions later™
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sdmathis
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July 12, 2014, 04:55:30 AM |
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maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean.
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July 12, 2014, 05:07:52 AM |
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maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean. Scamalized is what this coin is amirite
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stormia
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July 12, 2014, 06:25:54 AM |
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maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean. /facepalm. Can we please get another community manager.. this guy's snarky attitude.. Also, please explain how veribit is not a centralized service? Thanks.
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stormia
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July 12, 2014, 06:32:26 AM |
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Sorry, on a more positive note.. This truly is one of the only altcoins I feel comfortable holding. Why? Because of the devs.
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CryptoLTD
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July 12, 2014, 07:48:41 AM |
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Hi guys , please don't forget to vote for vericoin on coinpayments.net just sign up >> verify your email . Transfer 0.001 btc ( 0.63 usd = 60 cents ) to vote . Please don't try to cheat or use tor browser = you will be automaticly disqualified .
If VRC is added to coinpayments.net = VERICOIN price will skyrocket
its only 60 cents guys = not even a fresh beer VOTE ENDING IN 4 DAYS
Theres no need for coinpayments.net. I could buy 2 VRC with .60 cents.. I'de rather do that.
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July 12, 2014, 07:49:58 AM |
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maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean. /facepalm. Can we please get another community manager.. this guy's snarky attitude.. Also, please explain how veribit is not a centralized service? Thanks. Both Veribiit, VeriSMS VeriSend and the proposed Veribank are all centralized services. There is no debate to be had about this. If you want to get into the meat of it, many of these services already exist for Bitcoin as well so saying its redundant and to just use Bitcoin is a fair point. SMSWallet already exists within Coinbase. Veribit is only useful if you think Veriicoin will continually raise in value faster than BTC otherwise you should just use Bitcoin. Verisend competes with the many mixers that already exist, some of which are actually trustless and open source. Verisend simply cannot be trusted as it is closed source and relies on a centralized mixer on a windows server, Vericoin foundation will likely see major legal issues involving money laundering in the future if they maintain this service and Vericoin does reach ever mainstream use. If services like Lavabit/Twitter/Google/etc can have their records seized by the US government without being allowed report it, it certainly can happen to Verisend. You devs and even the community really just need to decide if you are going to continue to throw together gimmicky wallet features that do nothing to enhance the protocol to simply have announce dates to pump from or if you actually want to contribute useful open source changes to the crypto currency community. Because you can provide those wallet features for any coin and accomplish more.
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CryptoLTD
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July 12, 2014, 07:55:22 AM |
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Considering the fee's & minimums most places put on BTC withdraws & or purchases, it is usefull. Sorry you dont agree. There's no $ laundering, thats pretty obviously nonsense. As for the others, they are options, no one is forced to use them, so there is no centralization. Again sorry you feel this way.
Edit: Features are not gimmics, again, sorry you don't agree with that either. Enjoy your weekend.
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stormia
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July 12, 2014, 08:28:38 AM |
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Considering the fee's & minimums most places put on BTC withdraws & or purchases, it is usefull. Sorry you dont agree. There's no $ laundering, thats pretty obviously nonsense. As for the others, they are options, no one is forced to use them, so there is no centralization. Again sorry you feel this way.
Edit: Features are not gimmics, again, sorry you don't agree with that either. Enjoy your weekend.
I think you are confused about the centralization aspect. Veribit is a service run by the devs, it is software that they control. No? So, it is centralized. I am pretty sure pnosker has said it himself that it is a centralized service catering to the coin. There is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that, but let's just keep things straight. Just because they are options and nobody is forced to use them does not mean they are not centralized... That's like saying Microsoft/Apple are not centralized corporations because their products are optional and nobody is forced to use them... Well, Microsoft and Apple have CEOs and are most certainly centralized.
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CryptoLTD
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July 12, 2014, 08:36:39 AM |
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Ok, that dosent make the coin centralized. One of its features is by your definition. Just like many coins have centralized services & or features with non public code. Theres nothing wrong with that. Sorry you dont agree. Enjoy your weekend.
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stormia
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July 12, 2014, 08:37:28 AM |
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Ok, that dosent make the coin centralized. One of its features is by your definition. Just like many coins have centralized services & or features with non public code. Theres nothing wrong with that. Sorry you dont agree. Enjoy your weekend.
I never said the coin was centralized... It most certainly is not. That is exactly what I said: that the service is. And I even said there was nothing wrong with that... Thank you, enjoy yours as well.
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July 12, 2014, 09:05:18 AM |
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Many detractors are missing the point. VRC has value-added services that allow a single entry point for people to be able to perform functions that they would otherwise have to trawl through the industry to find who does what and how much it costs.
If you have a person new to crypto who downloads a wallet that allows them to use online services that accept BTC, allows them to send an SMS payment to someone who doesn't have a wallet and numerous other functions, you cut out the need for that laborious and steep learning process we all had to go through. A long term goal will always be for these value-added services to be able to migrate to open-source decentralised platforms but, at this time, we'd be deliberately handicapping wider adoption if we insisted that everybody faced having to attain the same degree of knowledge about what is going on behind the scenes, technically, socially and commercially, as we did.
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buy4crypto
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July 12, 2014, 10:29:04 AM |
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LOL I love when yoursstrully comes here and tells you how bad a service is, THAT THEY JUST CLONED AND SAY IS BETTER...
LOL I guess its a stupid, centralized service when it is out first, and is better than there own.
This is insane that they keep coming here. And remember. They are here as a good samaritan, here to benefit the whole community. Yeah right. And if you believe that...
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