[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[btminer8]

WTF you guy are suggesting Rolling back the blockchain??

That is the single stupidest idea ever suggested on BTCtalk and that is saying something!

If mistakes were made and coins were stolen then deal with it and move on,even talking about trying to wind the clock back destroys any faith in the integrity of the devs and by extension the community members who support such an action.
Where does this OCD mentality lead to?
If there is a hostile but legal takeover of VERI would you condone the same action?
How about if someone deliberately instigates large scale bot dumping and drives the price down %10000 casing huge panic?

When the survival of the coin and protection of the investors is placed in front of basic responsibility and accountability then you lose something that can not be regained by the mere passage of time......  

Can you tell me more about the basic responsibility and accountability in details?

[Taner]

Guys, my outside view of what happens with vericoin.
Hit the reset button after a accident will never bring fresh money into this market.
If i would be a veriholder i would be happy with the rollback.

So within the next days you will shift your community cash around and you will see a
steady decline until nothing. If there are good features inside this coin, devs will create a new one
and follow their shedule and their skills with a new project
I don' t know if devs are know persons or still anon.
If they are anon i would not hold only one veri whatever features it would have insinde.
On the other hand if they didn't rollback maybe mintpal has done and we had a new mtgox.
So devs have decided for crypto with their rollback and not for veri.

Devs: http://www.vericoin.info/team.html

[dotnetmin]

Guys, my outside view of what happens with vericoin.
Hit the reset button after a accident will never bring fresh money into this market.
If i would be a veriholder i would be happy with the rollback.

So within the next days you will shift your community cash around and you will see a
steady decline until nothing. If there are good features inside this coin, devs will create a new one
and follow their shedule and their skills with a new project
I don' t know if devs are know persons or still anon.
If they are anon i would not hold only one veri whatever features it would have insinde.
On the other hand if they didn't rollback maybe mintpal has done and we had a new mtgox.
So devs have decided for crypto with their rollback and not for veri.

Devs: http://www.vericoin.info/team.html

Thats nice, but they still could argue with "we did it for crypto" or maybe they did it simple for mint.
I watch what will happen and happy not being involved with this project. Crypto generally day by day seems to be a very bad market to be. Too much fud, scam and ugly people.

[CodeHunter]

If mistakes were made and coins were stolen then deal with it and move on,even talking about trying to wind the clock back destroys any faith in the integrity of the devs and by extension the community members who support such an action.
Where does this OCD mentality lead to?

Why? when the tech allows for a roll-back which loses only $4k in transactions (which Mintpal will repay) when compared to losing $2million, then why not?

That's not OCD, that's common sense.

[XbladeX]

What is it with blackcoin people and this thread? Each time I see someone troll vrc, they have a blackcoin sig.
Where do all you dummies come from? blackcoin is dead.
Anyways, it's the investors that lose money that usually find the passion to troll another thread related to their competitor.

I have 20+ diffrent crypto...from BTC, Doge, ANC ,BC, PPC, NEM....Bitshares like many people here,
rollback hurted all crypto not just one coin.

If not VRC it will be next coin like XC Clokac Cinni Voot.... INSERT name here another hype coin.

The reason i write here is simple all crypto was damaged...
and all POS coins mostly suffers by that rollback
Mainly it was Mintpal problem but full responsibility is not on Mintpal side
1/3 of all coins were deposited in one place - that is orgin of problem.

Give me 3 good reasons why all crypto was damaged.

- Merchants can be aware because transaction can be reversed in some emergency situation so better not trust new alts and stick with BTC
which can take 500m $ loss  (it breaks some trust rule )

- Bad exchange has not been punishment ( normally it can lead to MtGox 2.0 and collapse... )

- Shows how easy is "manipulate" people in crypto devlopers, Exchanges.
Real truth can be unknown forever. Did MtGox write truth before they collapsed? ( they lied till end... CR lied till end... )
Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

[CodeHunter]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

[btminer8]

What is it with blackcoin people and this thread? Each time I see someone troll vrc, they have a blackcoin sig.
Where do all you dummies come from? blackcoin is dead.
Anyways, it's the investors that lose money that usually find the passion to troll another thread related to their competitor.

I have 20+ diffrent crypto...from BTC, Doge, ANC ,BC, PPC, NEM....Bitshares like many people here,
rollback hurted all crypto not just one coin.

If not VRC it will be next coin like XC Clokac Cinni Voot.... INSERT name here another hype coin.

The reason i write here is simple all crypto was damaged...
and all POS coins mostly suffers by that rollback
Mainly it was Mintpal problem but full responsibility is not on Mintpal side
1/3 of all coins were deposited in one place - that is orgin of problem.

Give me 3 good reasons why all crypto was damaged.

- Merchants can be aware because transaction can be reversed in some emergency situation so better not trust new alts and stick with BTC
which can take 500m $ loss  (it breaks some trust rule )

- Bad exchange has not been punishment ( normally it can lead to MtGox 2.0 and collapse... )

- Shows how easy is "manipulate" people in crypto devlopers, Exchanges.
Real truth can be unknown forever. Did MtGox write truth before they collapsed? ( they lied till end... CR lied till end... )
Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Good and valid reasons.

What about the thief? Would it motivate more hackers to do it if they can always get away with it? Would this defer people from investing in crypto?

[dotnetmin]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

You're calling others an idiot and you can't imagine what happens to mint loosing 8,000,000 veri.

[CodeHunter]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

You're calling others an idiot and you can't imagine what happens to mint loosing 8,000,000 veri.

Ya you're also an idiot, he wrote that this was an insider scam, and I said the same thing you just wrote me.

Mint was finished the minute they announced the theft, so why would they steal the coins. It's not a scam. The coins were stollen.

[piyany]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

You're calling others an idiot and you can't imagine what happens to mint loosing 8,000,000 veri.

Mint becomes insolvent, people panic with mass withdrawals, mintpal stops withdrawals, gox 2.0 happens... 

[dotnetmin]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

You're calling others an idiot and you can't imagine what happens to mint loosing 8,000,000 veri.

Mint becomes insolvent, people panic with mass withdrawals, mintpal stops withdrawals, gox 2.0 happens... 

Thanks for simple explanation.

[mrkavasaki]

it does not matter if you trade on cryptsy,minpal or what else....all could be hacked!!
what crypto need is an decentralized exchanger like halo and thats why backcoin is the future

[MikeMike]

Here could have been even inside deal between Mintpal and VRC dev and you won't never know about it...

Yup, you're an idiot. Mintpal gained absolutely nothing from this ordeal.

You're calling others an idiot and you can't imagine what happens to mint loosing 8,000,000 veri.

Mint becomes insolvent, people panic with mass withdrawals, mintpal stops withdrawals, gox 2.0 happens...  

Thanks for simple explanation.

Fact is right now nobody knows.

It could have been a bankster/FED scheme using someone on the inside they had charges to blackmail them with.
All done to try to cause panic in the CC's.

Meanwhile banksters literally get away with Murder, Terrorist & Murderous Drug Lord Money Laundering,
Fomenting War on a Global Scale and collapsing the entire World Economy while raping and pillaging
entire Countries and peoples wealth.



It might be good to keep things into perspective.

The Hard Fork was CC's Extremely Effective Community Effort to Provide an FDIC type Insurance
AND there will be Innovations to come...

[CodeHunter]

blackcoin is dead.

[dotnetmin]

blackcoin is dead.

And you are ignorant and now ignored

[btminer8]

it does not matter if you trade on cryptsy,minpal or what else....all could be hacked!!
what crypto need is an decentralized exchanger like halo and thats why backcoin is the future

I know Bithalo, amazing technology. But i never heard of backcoin.  

And by looking at your post history, it seems that you made this account to specifically troll vericoin. "please wait until mintpal releases verishits again" Is that what you can offer? Come on

[XbladeX]

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Good and valid reasons.

What about the thief? Would it motivate more hackers to do it if they can always get away with it? Would this defer people from investing in crypto?

Problem with thief is that you and me, we can not be sure if that was real thief or just stupid system bug.
Usually when such attack are there are dumps to 1sat ( WC 2x spend attack )...
Why only VRC was affected while BTC LTC was in cold wallet...
All loks more like inside bug of Mintpal  system than any theft for me.

We will never know if that was real thief or some inside mintpal altercation...
Once on poloniex was sold stolen (300 000) DRK for 5000sat coin recovered in 4 months getting 500x.
Same was with Gox and BTC when 10% of BTC was stolen.
Thefts can't kill good coin.
Reputation is much harder to get back.

PS: BTW Whales are same kind of thief's they pump coin and go away with BTC look at Doge manipulation to 300sat they never invest in any coin for real.
they want pump it and leave it after dump naive investors are burned. To many things re manipulated in crypto from price to announcements.

[VerilyVerily]

 !Hello!

All FUD is envy when the Nosker save coin with use only fork and rocket bag    Will live the coin! Will live the Nosker!   

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[mrkavasaki]

it does not matter if you trade on cryptsy,minpal or what else....all could be hacked!!
what crypto need is an decentralized exchanger like halo and thats why backcoin is the future

I know Bithalo, amazing technology. But i never heard of backcoin.  

And by looking at your post history, it seems that you made this account to specifically troll vericoin. "please wait until mintpal releases verishits again" Is that what you can offer? Come on

i think you are very ingnorant

bithalo and blackhalo was created by an blackcoin developer

[dotnetmin]

...
Good and valid reasons.

What about the thief? Would it motivate more hackers to do it if they can always get away with it? Would this defer people from investing in crypto?

Problem with thief is that you and me, we can not be sure if that was real thief or just stupid system bug.
Usually when such attack are there are dumps to 1sat ( WC 2x spend attack )...
Why only VRC was affected while BTC LTC was in cold wallet...
All loks more like inside bug of Mintpal  system than any theft for me.

We will never know if that was real thief or some inside mintpal altercation...
Once on poloniex was sold stolen (300 000) DRK for 5000sat coin recovered in 4 months getting 500x.
Same was with Gox and BTC when 10% of BTC was stolen.
Thefts can't kill good coin.
Reputation is much harder to get back.

PS: BTW Whales are same kind of thief's they pump coin and go away with BTC look at Doge manipulation to 300sat they never invest in any coin for real.
they want pump it and leave it after dump. To many things re manipulated in crypto from price to announcements.

So that is why crypto never will become a real investment. It's only a lottery, even if coin is a very good project.
Because of this i am short before the decission to go out of any crypto completly.