[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[Reavon]

Jeez...  Can u you guys just stop please.  Everyone who's using vrc is a welcome guest.  
Please separate market from fundamentals.  
This coin is sexy and I can't wait for it to overtake the cryptocoin scene.

Mark my words guys in several years we will discuss on veritalk  with +10k members on how to support development  country's by involve them into the vericoin economy.
I believe that for my own that PoS coin are superior because I think there can be created hyper ASICS by gov which can easily 51% bitcoin and Co.
PoS on the other hand can only be by buying a enormous amount of this coin and it get everytime  harder  because by buying  the coin you pump the price. And also why you would want to destroy a coin which you 51 percent of.
So there you go the Bitcoin of PoS coins is not set yet.  So lets make that be Vericoin.  

[bitcoinm3ster]

Jeez...  Can u you guys just stop please.  Everyone who's using vrc is a welcome guest.  
Please separate market from fundamentals.  
This coin is sexy and I can't wait for it to overtake the cryptocoin scene.

Mark my words guys in several years we will discuss on veritalk  with +10k members on how to support development  country's by involve them into the vericoin economy.
I believe that for my own that PoS coin are superior because I think there can be created hyper ASICS by gov which can easily 51% bitcoin and Co.
PoS on the other hand can only be by buying a enormous amount of this coin and it get everytime  harder  because by buying  the coin you pump the price. And also why you would want to destroy a coin which you 51 percent of.
So there you go the Bitcoin of PoS coins is not set yet.  So lets make that be Vericoin.  

"Veri" constructive post, and you touched some interesting point of view that i never thought that myself ty.

[leckey]

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[barabbas]

A friendly reminder to those with coins on an exchange. Please stake them to support the network and gain interest, or get them into personal storage. Not only is this a much safer course of action, it provides safety to our blockchain by not leaving big targets on us for hackers at exchanges. Doing great everyone. The distribution continues of VeriCoin to a growing community.


Please everyone who is having personal attacks can we refrain? By doing this we continue to create a environment that says its okay. If its not okay with you, do not continue conversations that lead down a detrimental path. Instead do your part to do something positive today. Tweet, Share news stories. If you are a good writer, write articles. If you have connections, get connected and make things happen!

If you want to encourage a conversation about what we can do to make VeriCoin better it would be a great time to start. We are slowly losing the eyes and interest of the crypto world, without giving ourselves any chance to take advantage of our unfortunate situation resulting from Mintpal's lack of security. I tried to get the story out. I had tweets and emails but as you probably already know, English is not my strong suit I have spent a few minutes everyday doing something to promote VeriCoin.

Do you know how many people have left crypto because they never had a chance to invest in something they "trust"? I gave up on coins and investing in them a while ago. Something about this coin, and the opportunity we have here to push crypto forward got me excited again. While I feel we are fighting for something much more than just our coin sometimes.

It feels like we have took a path less traveled. As with any path like this. The leaders blaze a trail through the murky depths where others are afraid to go, or have not gone in the past. Not everyone is willing to follow. Its very scary to travel, or invest in the unknown. Once the path is clear for others, and the choice is obvious the rest of the money will find its home.

You guys, We all have the chance to be a part of crypto history. The lore of VeriCoin will be heard round' crypto for years to come. You all at this point in your lives have the ability to believe in something bigger than a coin. If you choose to put your faith and time on the line here, You are working to forge a crypto culture that is going to bring in mainstream values to crypto currency.

In general, I agree with you in what you just posted.

But lets not kid ourselves: As you and anyone can easily see, the personal emotional levels, as well as past histories will come forward at any instance of conflict. It's just the nature of the internet beast. And the crypto coins, where the unabashed fan boys will make of their support a blind religion inevitably in conflict with those who, even if interested or even supportive, choose -or are bound to have- a more discriminatory approach.

I have supported this dev team because they came out clean and I believe -at the risk of maybe be proven wrong, who knows- what they have said so far is true. But not ALL that they have said and definitely not all of what they have done, is deserving of my personal support. And this is a forum where everyone should be entitled to post whatever they want related to a coin they are invested in. Everyone here is tired and sick already of the "roll back" conversation, so no need to bring it back... unless it is as a reference. people well known in the crypto world have been very critical of the "roll back", like Bryce Weiner, for instance. Or the Lee guy from Litecoin. The entire fanboy club at Blackcoin was, for days, circling the wagons here, as the carrion vultures they have proven to be -long before VRC-. Yes it is positive to, at some point, ignore your enemies, but what you cannot do -or I believe that you shouldn't do- is pretending like the reasons for the confrontation have disappeared. Because they have not. Mr. Lee may "have a reason" to so severely attack Nokster publicly, but that is his reason just like mine -and tens of thousands of others- to defend what the dev team was forced to do, the rollback. But Lee and me (and the rest that adheres to that position) have very solid opinions that happen to be irreconcilable, so no amount of pictures at conventions, nor "family dispenses" will change that. We are, in fact, in direct opposite parts of a situation: Lee wants to defend the traditional position, by which VRC would have disappeared, a thief would have made a lot of money for thieving without any accountability, and Mr. Lee would have continue going merrily about his life wille thousands of investors would have lost all of their investments. Me and many others, on the other side of that spectrum, support actions by the devs that safeguarded the coin, the investment, left the thief without a penny from his thievery and, more importantly, set ANOTHER new standard by which measures would be taken in the event of major thievery... which is something many, many people support.

In other words, you cannot please all the people all the time. And you MUST stand your ground if you want to show conviction in your acts. YOU MUST CHOOSE SIDES.

By the same token, posing for pictures with Rokhlin HAS implications. He has a most than muddy past (and present). He is a scammer, as posted everywhere on these forums. Posing with him is not exactly an endorsement of his activities, that is clear, but it is more of that than a condemnation of them, isn't it? You may believe the many charges or may not, that's up to you personally, but as a dev team for VRC you must take all these circumstances into consideration.

I believe the market is flat, after Chicago, in no small part due to these confusing actions by the devs who amount, in some way, to throw the stone but somewhat try to hide the hand. The community have supported their decisions fully. They should represent the community who paid for them to be in Chicago, NOT to "get along" with their most acerbic critics of those who can easily dirty the reputation of Vericoin.

Being the good guys doesn't come without a cost, as you can see.

[amesterdamer]

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[Xosihc]

Couldn't take the stupidity pouring from barabbas anymore IGNORED, but in a parting response I will elaborate I despise IE because of all the PROVEN scamming he has done and how much FUD he spreads to manipulate markets in his favor and how he just in general doesn't do anything but borderline criminal activities and drag crypto down.

As for me "not bringing anything to the table"

1. I NEVER claimed to be a developer, in fact I have made it clear that I CAN NOT code so I help in other ways, like providing moderation and support on the IRC chan, marketing VRC in social media, fighting FUD trolls like you on the forums, oh and lets not forget the $$$ I have helped raise for the Devs with "my silver"

2. I act as a community liaison between people that have important questions and or comments for the Devs and relay them, while im "doing nothing" on the hangouts, I am organizing, screening, and passing along questions, so do yourself a favor and don't try to talk shit about things you don't know anything about little boy.

and finally 3. I hate ALL of the recent presidents we have had so far they are all like you/IE They are lying, stealing, manipulating pieces of shit that I am ashamed to have represent and lead America and that I have NO respect for. As far as I am concerned our last GREAT president was JFK.

So in closing,

Barabbas you need to really think before you talk shit because most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about and the other part of the time you are obviously lying.

Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.

[socal]

Couldn't take the stupidity pouring from barabbas anymore IGNORED, but in a parting response I will elaborate I despise IE because of all the PROVEN scamming he has done and how much FUD he spreads to manipulate markets in his favor and how he just in general doesn't do anything but borderline criminal activities and drag crypto down.

As for me "not bringing anything to the table"

1. I NEVER claimed to be a developer, in fact I have made it clear that I CAN NOT code so I help in other ways, like providing moderation and support on the IRC chan, marketing VRC in social media, fighting FUD trolls like you on the forums, oh and lets not forget the $$$ I have helped raise for the Devs with "my silver"

2. I act as a community liaison between people that have important questions and or comments for the Devs and relay them, while im "doing nothing" on the hangouts, I am organizing, screening, and passing along questions, so do yourself a favor and don't try to talk shit about things you don't know anything about little boy.

and finally 3. I hate ALL of the recent presidents we have had so far they are all like you/IE They are lying, stealing, manipulating pieces of shit that I am ashamed to have represent and lead America and that I have NO respect for. As far as I am concerned our last GREAT president was JFK.

So in closing,

Barabbas you need to really think before you talk shit because most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about and the other part of the time you are obviously lying.

Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.

  THANK YOU

[webay]

Couldn't take the stupidity pouring from barabbas anymore IGNORED, but in a parting response I will elaborate I despise IE because of all the PROVEN scamming he has done and how much FUD he spreads to manipulate markets in his favor and how he just in general doesn't do anything but borderline criminal activities and drag crypto down.

As for me "not bringing anything to the table"

1. I NEVER claimed to be a developer, in fact I have made it clear that I CAN NOT code so I help in other ways, like providing moderation and support on the IRC chan, marketing VRC in social media, fighting FUD trolls like you on the forums, oh and lets not forget the $$$ I have helped raise for the Devs with "my silver"

2. I act as a community liaison between people that have important questions and or comments for the Devs and relay them, while im "doing nothing" on the hangouts, I am organizing, screening, and passing along questions, so do yourself a favor and don't try to talk shit about things you don't know anything about little boy.

and finally 3. I hate ALL of the recent presidents we have had so far they are all like you/IE They are lying, stealing, manipulating pieces of shit that I am ashamed to have represent and lead America and that I have NO respect for. As far as I am concerned our last GREAT president was JFK.

So in closing,

Barabbas you need to really think before you talk shit because most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about and the other part of the time you are obviously lying.

Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.

This^^

I've brought it up before, but if any other coin wanted to dig up dirt on VeriCoin(us) they can look no further than Socal, who apparently has some sort of title with the devs. Makes me ashamed as well with what was said. I suggested to him that he can simply sign into another account and say whatever he wants, so if he doesn't have the restraint to do that, why is he part of the community team for a coin with a $6mil+ market cap?

[socal]

I have NO title I am NOT a Dev

[pnosker]

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

[Xosihc]

Couldn't take the stupidity pouring from barabbas anymore IGNORED, but in a parting response I will elaborate I despise IE because of all the PROVEN scamming he has done and how much FUD he spreads to manipulate markets in his favor and how he just in general doesn't do anything but borderline criminal activities and drag crypto down.

As for me "not bringing anything to the table"

1. I NEVER claimed to be a developer, in fact I have made it clear that I CAN NOT code so I help in other ways, like providing moderation and support on the IRC chan, marketing VRC in social media, fighting FUD trolls like you on the forums, oh and lets not forget the $$$ I have helped raise for the Devs with "my silver"

2. I act as a community liaison between people that have important questions and or comments for the Devs and relay them, while im "doing nothing" on the hangouts, I am organizing, screening, and passing along questions, so do yourself a favor and don't try to talk shit about things you don't know anything about little boy.

and finally 3. I hate ALL of the recent presidents we have had so far they are all like you/IE They are lying, stealing, manipulating pieces of shit that I am ashamed to have represent and lead America and that I have NO respect for. As far as I am concerned our last GREAT president was JFK.

So in closing,

Barabbas you need to really think before you talk shit because most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about and the other part of the time you are obviously lying.

Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.

  THANK YOU

haha that was the best answer ever thanks!!

[Xosihc]

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

Well I do appreciate you pointing this out. I guess when I see him part of the Google Hangouts as well as supporting all mediums of your coin it's hard for me to separate the two.

[koralon]

Couldn't take the stupidity pouring from barabbas anymore IGNORED, but in a parting response I will elaborate I despise IE because of all the PROVEN scamming he has done and how much FUD he spreads to manipulate markets in his favor and how he just in general doesn't do anything but borderline criminal activities and drag crypto down.

As for me "not bringing anything to the table"

1. I NEVER claimed to be a developer, in fact I have made it clear that I CAN NOT code so I help in other ways, like providing moderation and support on the IRC chan, marketing VRC in social media, fighting FUD trolls like you on the forums, oh and lets not forget the $$$ I have helped raise for the Devs with "my silver"

2. I act as a community liaison between people that have important questions and or comments for the Devs and relay them, while im "doing nothing" on the hangouts, I am organizing, screening, and passing along questions, so do yourself a favor and don't try to talk shit about things you don't know anything about little boy.

and finally 3. I hate ALL of the recent presidents we have had so far they are all like you/IE They are lying, stealing, manipulating pieces of shit that I am ashamed to have represent and lead America and that I have NO respect for. As far as I am concerned our last GREAT president was JFK.

So in closing,

Barabbas you need to really think before you talk shit because most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about and the other part of the time you are obviously lying.

Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.

This^^

I've brought it up before, but if any other coin wanted to dig up dirt on VeriCoin(us) they can look no further than Socal, who apparently has some sort of title with the devs. Makes me ashamed as well with what was said. I suggested to him that he can simply sign into another account and say whatever he wants, so if he doesn't have the restraint to do that, why is he part of the community team for a coin with a $6mil+ market cap?

Hello barabbas. Why did you make a new account?

[buy4crypto]

A friendly reminder to those with coins on an exchange. Please stake them to support the network and gain interest, or get them into personal storage. Not only is this a much safer course of action, it provides safety to our blockchain by not leaving big targets on us for hackers at exchanges. Doing great everyone. The distribution continues of VeriCoin to a growing community.


Please everyone who is having personal attacks can we refrain? By doing this we continue to create a environment that says its okay. If its not okay with you, do not continue conversations that lead down a detrimental path. Instead do your part to do something positive today. Tweet, Share news stories. If you are a good writer, write articles. If you have connections, get connected and make things happen!

If you want to encourage a conversation about what we can do to make VeriCoin better it would be a great time to start. We are slowly losing the eyes and interest of the crypto world, without giving ourselves any chance to take advantage of our unfortunate situation resulting from Mintpal's lack of security. I tried to get the story out. I had tweets and emails but as you probably already know, English is not my strong suit I have spent a few minutes everyday doing something to promote VeriCoin.

Do you know how many people have left crypto because they never had a chance to invest in something they "trust"? I gave up on coins and investing in them a while ago. Something about this coin, and the opportunity we have here to push crypto forward got me excited again. While I feel we are fighting for something much more than just our coin sometimes.

It feels like we have took a path less traveled. As with any path like this. The leaders blaze a trail through the murky depths where others are afraid to go, or have not gone in the past. Not everyone is willing to follow. Its very scary to travel, or invest in the unknown. Once the path is clear for others, and the choice is obvious the rest of the money will find its home.

You guys, We all have the chance to be a part of crypto history. The lore of VeriCoin will be heard round' crypto for years to come. You all at this point in your lives have the ability to believe in something bigger than a coin. If you choose to put your faith and time on the line here, You are working to forge a crypto culture that is going to bring in mainstream values to crypto currency.

In general, I agree with you in what you just posted.

But lets not kid ourselves: As you and anyone can easily see, the personal emotional levels, as well as past histories will come forward at any instance of conflict. It's just the nature of the internet beast. And the crypto coins, where the unabashed fan boys will make of their support a blind religion inevitably in conflict with those who, even if interested or even supportive, choose -or are bound to have- a more discriminatory approach.

I have supported this dev team because they came out clean and I believe -at the risk of maybe be proven wrong, who knows- what they have said so far is true. But not ALL that they have said and definitely not all of what they have done, is deserving of my personal support. And this is a forum where everyone should be entitled to post whatever they want related to a coin they are invested in. Everyone here is tired and sick already of the "roll back" conversation, so no need to bring it back... unless it is as a reference. people well known in the crypto world have been very critical of the "roll back", like Bryce Weiner, for instance. Or the Lee guy from Litecoin. The entire fanboy club at Blackcoin was, for days, circling the wagons here, as the carrion vultures they have proven to be -long before VRC-. Yes it is positive to, at some point, ignore your enemies, but what you cannot do -or I believe that you shouldn't do- is pretending like the reasons for the confrontation have disappeared. Because they have not. Mr. Lee may "have a reason" to so severely attack Nokster publicly, but that is his reason just like mine -and tens of thousands of others- to defend what the dev team was forced to do, the rollback. But Lee and me (and the rest that adheres to that position) have very solid opinions that happen to be irreconcilable, so no amount of pictures at conventions, nor "family dispenses" will change that. We are, in fact, in direct opposite parts of a situation: Lee wants to defend the traditional position, by which VRC would have disappeared, a thief would have made a lot of money for thieving without any accountability, and Mr. Lee would have continue going merrily about his life wille thousands of investors would have lost all of their investments. Me and many others, on the other side of that spectrum, support actions by the devs that safeguarded the coin, the investment, left the thief without a penny from his thievery and, more importantly, set ANOTHER new standard by which measures would be taken in the event of major thievery... which is something many, many people support.

In other words, you cannot please all the people all the time. And you MUST stand your ground if you want to show conviction in your acts. YOU MUST CHOOSE SIDES.

By the same token, posing for pictures with Rokhlin HAS implications. He has a most than muddy past (and present). He is a scammer, as posted everywhere on these forums. Posing with him is not exactly an endorsement of his activities, that is clear, but it is more of that than a condemnation of them, isn't it? You may believe the many charges or may not, that's up to you personally, but as a dev team for VRC you must take all these circumstances into consideration.

I believe the market is flat, after Chicago, in no small part due to these confusing actions by the devs who amount, in some way, to throw the stone but somewhat try to hide the hand. The community have supported their decisions fully. They should represent the community who paid for them to be in Chicago, NOT to "get along" with their most acerbic critics of those who can easily dirty the reputation of Vericoin.

Being the good guys doesn't come without a cost, as you can see.

I do enjoy your criticism, very often I agree with what you have said lately. It is well thought out and I can tell you care. Where I see you may irritate others is that you have a tendancy to carry on about a subject that you are passionate about. Now do I think you are a,b,I, or E, Zero clue. What I do think is that we have a community that cares and right now we lack direction. Without direction everyone is running around with there head cut off, or even worse, taking it up on the fellow community.

A good place for us to start changing the tone around here would be to attain some goals and try to achieve them, some small tasks for the community. As much as I disagree with saying "news" when its a "its coming" apparently that's the way our current culture is. We are catering to the day traders with this attitude at the expense of the long term investors we seek. The people who want to make this a long term project need to take back control. Our community leaders need to step up if they are in charge, or consider helping another person move into the roll who may be a better fit for where VeriCoin wants to go.

[CryptoSkills]

Hello everybody.

We just created a new cryptocoin related Forum, completely built on Node.js .

You're welcome to open a new thread for your coin & community on http://5.101.107.239:4567/

Our conception is second generation minded: scalability, speed, lightness, security.

We are proud to announce the opening beta of CRYPTOBBFORUM !

We will open registration for the first 150/200 users and test for beta testing purposes. Next we'll open it to the public!

Please connect to http://5.101.107.239:4567/ and try it out!  

Any feedback and suggestion are welcome.

CryptoSkills Team.

Might want to invest in a domain name. And a better server set-up that serves node on port 80.....

This is a beta testing

[xtent]

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

This

As someone who moderates in the irc and is the unofficial liaison, toning down the anger could help bring in more interested in the coin.

[webay]

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

He's got a + sign in IRC, so he means something to you guys. I believe in you devs, but you guys need to get your PR game and community management up to snuff.

[socal]

TO The VRC Community:

Apparently there has been some sort of misunderstanding, I AM NOT A DEV OF VERICOIN, I am just a supporter of Vericoin because I believe in the Devs and the future of VRC.

I probably have come off a little strong to some in my defense of VRC and in "conversations" with others and for that I apologize. I realize I have probably been a bit over zealous and as such will now be refraining from posting in this thread unless it has something to do important VRC news or VRC projects.

I do not wish for others to blame the Devs or Vericoin for my almost fanatical defense and devotion to VRC and so as such will remove myself from the equation.

I will continue to work to support and spread VRC adoption, along with Physical Vericoins and the like but will no longer partake in any "small talk" or the like on this thread.

I hope you all can see that what I have said was on ME and not in anyway affiliated with the Devs beliefs or feelings.

[buy4crypto]

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

This

As someone who moderates in the irc and is the unofficial liaison, toning down the anger could help bring in more interested in the coin.

It is very bad. I never seen someone from coca-cola, or any brand have someone like this leading any community effort with any official capacity.

I have nothing against socal. But I can see many, many valid points why someone else should be in charge... of ANYTHING relating to a brand.

I have never seen more toxic behavior from someone assigned to promote community.  


Simply avoid being an ass when you represent the coin is all that it would take.

[Wreathy]

Guys as you can see i dont post alot...


This is a request for calm.. peaceful contributions thoughts advice etc etc.

we are NOT a playground, with kids boasting i got the bestest more intelligent response, to that fool to this fool, to you to me to him..

blah blah blah, it is just going round and round !.

What I don't get is the people who come out with the most credible thoughts positive ideas answers are also on the other side of the
coin stooping below the belt, with unnecessary digs.   

HANG ON !. are you really in a play ground here?.

I think not!.   Your a part of the best thing crypto has to offer since bitcoin/litecoin.

Enjoy the ride don't make it hard on each and everyone.

I'm calling time here..

Man up behave, or leave the table with dignity. 

A Constructive positive forum presence it what we need. !.

So lets start of by not bashing this post.