[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[feryjhie]

anyone can ask me why i cant download the windows wallet?

[maccd123]

anyone can ask me why i cant download the windows wallet?

Do you have a Internet Connection? 56k works the best!

[feryjhie]

anyone can ask me why i cant download the windows wallet?

Do you have a Internet Connection? 56k works the best!

yes i have

but i cant open mega.co.nz

[Matt9301]

Any nodes?? My wallet is sync but last block was generated 12 hours ago and doesn't want go next D:

[SuperClam]

anyone can ask me why i cant download the windows wallet?

Do you have a Internet Connection? 56k works the best!

yes i have
but i cant open mega.co.nz

Might be a Great Firewall issue maybe?  Are you located in China by chance?

[SuperClam]

I never really read the OP before.
Here are some comments:
[...]
I prefer lowercase.
I got bored at that point and stopped reading. I don't mine, so the stuff about khashier isn't of interest to me.
Hope that's helpful.

dooglus,

Think I covered most of them, a little polish and accuracy is always a good thing.
Honestly, the OP has grown into a giant indecipherable wall of text.
I think I will make an effort in the coming days to get some of it converted into shiny info-graphic and prune it down a bit.

When CLAMS inevitably takes off for the moon then my unofficial clamclient.com website will surely get alot of traffic if it's still the only website. With that in mind I'm hoping the community will point out any information that isn't right or could be worded more clearly, etc. I just made some more small design changes and edits, and added a "proof-of-pearl" page.
http://clamclient.com

As always, thanks again garthkiser
I think it looks great!

Any nodes?? My wallet is sync but last block was generated 12 hours ago and doesn't want go next D:

There was a mandatory update and fork yesterday. 
Please be sure that you have updated your software.

In addition, it would likely be wise to delete and re-sync your block index (everything in your data directory EXCEPT your wallet.dat file, of coarse).

[almightyruler]

but i cant open mega.co.nz

FWIW: I'm in Australia, and have never been able to download anything from mega.co.nz. I either get a dialog complaining about local storage space, or an endless turning cog wheel. So there's no need to tease feryjhie about his/her internet connection.

If you use file sharing websites that have fancy javascript necessary to grab files it's probably a good idea to include a more "standard" website as backup.

[SuperClam]

but i cant open mega.co.nz

FWIW: I'm in Australia, and have never been able to download anything from mega.co.nz. I either get a dialog complaining about local storage space, or an endless turning cog wheel. So there's no need to tease feryjhie about his/her internet connection.
If you use file sharing websites that have fancy javascript necessary to grab files it's probably a good idea to include a more "standard" website as backup.

A reasonable idea - on it.
Any recommendations? 
That have worked for you in the past?

[Matt9301]

I never really read the OP before.
Here are some comments:
[...]
I prefer lowercase.
I got bored at that point and stopped reading. I don't mine, so the stuff about khashier isn't of interest to me.
Hope that's helpful.

dooglus,

Think I covered most of them, a little polish and accuracy is always a good thing.
Honestly, the OP has grown into a giant indecipherable wall of text.
I think I will make an effort in the coming days to get some of it converted into shiny info-graphic and prune it down a bit.

When CLAMS inevitably takes off for the moon then my unofficial clamclient.com website will surely get alot of traffic if it's still the only website. With that in mind I'm hoping the community will point out any information that isn't right or could be worded more clearly, etc. I just made some more small design changes and edits, and added a "proof-of-pearl" page.
http://clamclient.com

As always, thanks again garthkiser
I think it looks great!

Any nodes?? My wallet is sync but last block was generated 12 hours ago and doesn't want go next D:

There was a mandatory update and fork yesterday. 
Please be sure that you have updated your software.

In addition, it would likely be wise to delete and re-sync your block index (everything in your data directory EXCEPT your wallet.dat file, of coarse).

Thank you, I have downloaded the update and re-sync my block index and now It's 0k! Thank you again..

[flipboxx]

Srsly, you didn't compile a mac wallet for 2 months now?!

[phzi]

I have ~.13 CLAM in an address with 8 inputs.  The most recent input has ~1000 confirmations.

Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking?  Mainly curious.  Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?

[Chronikka]

I have ~.13 CLAM in an address with 8 inputs.  The most recent input has ~1000 confirmations.

Can anyone explain to me why these aren't staking?  Mainly curious.  Are the TXOUTs too small to stake for some reason?

There is a minimum balance for staking on some coins, I don't know about Clams.

But is your wallet encrypted? Staking won't occur if it has a password.

[charles33200]

Srsly, you didn't compile a mac wallet for 2 months now?!

You can find an unofficial mac wallet, compiled from github sources for my own use, here

I hope we'll have an official wallet soon, but for now, i compile the wallet at each update...

[SuperClam]

Holy ~490 CLAM LOTTERY BatCLAM!

Winner Winner CLAMicken Dinner!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/a94dab49b53159ea235135ec10f0326d5082fe5fddf1e0d19f5b3f9738b37e97

Posted it out on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ClamClient/status/488805146671841281

Congrats!
If it was you please step forward!

[maccd123]

How often do you give out payouts from Kasher.com?

[SuperClam]

How often do you give out payouts from Kasher.com?

When it is wise to do so.
We are trying our best to minimize withdrawal fees and such as much as possible.
In addition, with low volume, we are dripping out the buys as to not push the market and buy above current price.

Thus far, it has been ~once a day.
This won't be the same for every miner - if you have a small percentage then coins granted at each stage will accrue to your balance.
Once your balance is above the threshold, you will be included in the next payment send.
Most miners seem to get above the threshold every day.

So the process is essentially:
CLAMS come into the pool wallet.
CLAMS are attributed to miners based on Pearl Payout Weight.
Miner accounts are checked for being above payout threshold.
Payments are sent to those miners.

[dooglus]

Congrats!
If it was you please step forward!

It wasn't me, but that transaction does illustrate the issue I was predicting with the client.

http://khashier.com:2750/tx/3c933caf091a67682230c18ace20607bd661c588ac535cc5f41d3f94de7cb589 took a single output of 4.61204448 (A) and split it into 2.3 (B) and 2.31215399 (C).

http://khashier.com:2750/tx/bde573d3c43a83238b1cd2440cf602e2f1dc32e03692af68964810f4ce2decf2#i0 took the 2.3 (B) and staked it up to 2.30013689 (D)

then http://khashier.com:2750/tx/e08ef5025e0bb4ea7190d4a29d83ad1bb2efac587ba9bd339e1e3348b4bf1692#i0 took the 2.31215399 (C) and 2.30013689 (D) and recombined them (and added on the lottery win of 491.21086388) into (L).

It seems wasteful for the client to automatically split large outputs, then recombine them. It's going to keep doing that over and over.

(A)-----> (B)-----> (D)-----> (L)
     \                    /
      `-> (C)------------'

[SuperClam]

Congrats!
If it was you please step forward!

It wasn't me, but that transaction does illustrate the issue I was predicting with the client.
http://khashier.com:2750/tx/3c933caf091a67682230c18ace20607bd661c588ac535cc5f41d3f94de7cb589 took a single output of 4.61204448 (A) and split it into 2.3 (B) and 2.31215399 (C).
http://khashier.com:2750/tx/bde573d3c43a83238b1cd2440cf602e2f1dc32e03692af68964810f4ce2decf2#i0 took the 2.3 (B) and staked it up to 2.30013689 (D)
then http://khashier.com:2750/tx/e08ef5025e0bb4ea7190d4a29d83ad1bb2efac587ba9bd339e1e3348b4bf1692#i0 took the 2.31215399 (C) and 2.30013689 (D) and recombined them (and added on the lottery win of 491.21086388) into (L).
It seems wasteful for the client to automatically split large outputs, then recombine them. It's going to keep doing that over and over.
(A)-----> (B)-----> (D)-----> (L)
     \                    /
      `-> (C)------------'

Indeed.
You likely already know this dooglus, but for other less researched folks:

There are two things at play:
1.) If an output stakes twice too quickly, it is better for the network if there are two opportunities to stake, ensuring all blocks are accounted for and staked in a timely manner.
2.) If a pubKey controls more than one output, it makes sense to combine those two outputs when staking (under the conventional 'interest earned' model).

There are definitely a few tweaks that need to be made to the staking system.
The lottery system makes the re-combination system somewhat senseless.

I welcome anyone who has a good grasp to crawl the code.
Ideally, we want outputs to combine only if the time to staking was extraordinarily high, and outputs to split only when they stake almost immediately after maturing (signalling that these outputs were ready to stake previously but held back by maturity).

We intend to work on this ourselves, but the more the merrier

[SuperClam]

Woohoo!

Another Lottery Winner!

~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a

[kbroadfoot]

Woohoo!

Another Lottery Winner!

~26+ CLAMS!
http://khashier.com:2750/block/ccf399c57815c04ae8942770408947648d6627e8374b887dbeb87956678ce75a

Starting to get jealous... I can't make a fried clam Po-Boy Sandwich with only 0.1 CLAMS!