Scientific proof that God exists?

[Astargath]

Episode 21: 'Chaos and randomness inside the mind of a retard named...you know the name'
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.

LOL!

Did you write that before my last comment? Or did you start it as soon as you saw I was online?

The scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined, not only prove that God exists, but also prove that there is no other way. Check out the summaries here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and then research it to see for yourself.

HWW, your humor is simply too much

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

You still posting your links.

Have you ever asked yourself why noone else posts your links? Its because they prove nothing.

You are the only one who believes them.

That is why i laugh at you.

It's not that other people don't believe. It's like you... don't understand. Science isn't a believing matter. It is an understanding of knowledge matter.

Interlude:
Of course, our small idiot will never be able to surpass his stupidity, he actually believes he is so important that someone would follow to see when he is online. He believes himself to be a small God. He also believes people were healthier before and they could all be inbred. They could, but they were not healthy and neither were the off springs...it's just a science thing, we can't expect Badecker to understand it. He always says about anyone who actually knows a bit of science that they do 'religious talk', he does not believe in the Big Bang...and then he goes telling stats science isn't a believing matter. A religious apologist who believes God exists because cause and effect exists says science is not  believing matter. Not that he wouldn't be right, science really isn't a believing matter, it's just the irony of it all: he only makes false assumptions (he believes stuff) while he knows science is not about that. Understanding of knowledge? This guy does not even understand in what he believes anymore. That is indeed mental illness with a shit ton of stupidity. Stick around for episode 21!

Our subject test, badecker, believes in god, the christian god. He claims there is scientific proof for it yet he never actually posts any evidence that leads to think that the real god is the christian god, he just believes it. He doesn't believe in evolution, of course, that would require some scientific understanding of the world, something that badecker doesn't have. He doesn't believe that the earth is flat, this is a surprise because you would expect an idiot like badecker to believe in any stupid shit but he doesn't. However he does have a thread called, US cops are worse than ISIS which is just fucking retarded, again, expected from badecker.

List of beliefs by badecker:

Believes in God
Believes that cops are worse than ISIS
Believes the earth is only 6000 years old (rofl)
Believes humans and dinosaurs lived together (rofl)
Believes a God watches you masturbate
Believes that all languages originated thanks to the babel tower (rofl)

And I'm still waiting for that definition of God, badecker, I asked you like 10 times, you seem to ignore it.

XinXan and HWW both believe that by talking religion they will be able to disprove science. So, that's what they have done... above. Yet, they don't have any rebuttal for the scientific proof that God exists, except political science. Political science says that if you talk long enough, people will believe you, even if you are wrong about what you are saying.

God and the scientific proof that He exists stand, with or without any rebuttal they might think that they have.



EDIT: Btw, XinXan. Thanks for placing me in the position of authority for describing God. Anybody can Google "What is God?" But you are setting me up as authority higher than Google responses. Thank you for that honor.

Badecker: Scientifically speaking, I don't know what the Creator really is.
Badecker: At the same time, cause and effect, entropy, and complexity point towards that "Something" that we can't fathom, as being the Creator.

So you still avoid the definition I see.

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.   

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

There you go again, proving yourself to be a badmouthing troll.

But you still haven't shown even one rebuttal that can stand against the fact that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

[btctousd81]

of course GOD exists, how do you think babies are born ?

[Horacewoodwood]

of course GOD exists, how do you think babies are born ?

God fucks everything up and voila...babies are born!

[Horacewoodwood]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

[BADecker]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

[Astargath]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

[BADecker]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

[stats]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

Ha ha ha ha.

The delusional one is now asking for an explanation of the rebuttal.

That just proves he has no idea.

BADecker: With his moronic statements he is the gift which just keeps giving.

[Astargath]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question. 

[BADecker]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

[Astargath]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

Nope science doesn't say yours is proof. Rebuttal here:


Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

[ProtonBank]

If god exist, he need put some text under this line 
---------------------------------------------------------
god is alive

ehh, I still don't believe

[BADecker]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

Nope science doesn't say yours is proof. Rebuttal here:


Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

Can't write it out, can you? Science proves God exists, and there has been nothing to rebut that fact.

[Astargath]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

Nope science doesn't say yours is proof. Rebuttal here:


Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

Can't write it out, can you? Science proves God exists, and there has been nothing to rebut that fact.

No scientist has ever proven God and there is nothing to rebut that fact.

[BADecker]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

Nope science doesn't say yours is proof. Rebuttal here:


Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

Can't write it out, can you? Science proves God exists, and there has been nothing to rebut that fact.

No scientist has ever proven God and there is nothing to rebut that fact.

For cause and effect, entropy, and complexity to exist together like they do in this universe, God is a requirement. This doesn't explain what God is. It only shows that He is powerful beyond any possibility of understanding of His power.

[Astargath]

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.

We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768

You are a twisted individual BADecker.

Interlude:
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.

Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.

Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.

Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

How do you know? You can’t explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you don’t have any rebuttal of your own.

How do I know what? How do you know yours is proof? We can keep asking stupid questions like that forever. If you have any questions about my rebuttal or your own, feel free to ask because I will answer any question.  

How do you know there is any rebuttal to my own "stuff" in the things that I say? You wouldn't know a rebuttal if it jumped up and bit you in the eyeball.

Science says mine is proof. That's the whole thing that we are talking about, here. Scientific proof, or the rebuttal of it. Of course, nobody should be surprised that you haven't figured that out yet.

I have been asking you to show one rebuttal to the proof that God exists. So far you haven't shown a rebuttal at all. Everything that you have said has so many holes in it that Swiss cheese is a thousand more times more solid.

Nope science doesn't say yours is proof. Rebuttal here:


Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

Can't write it out, can you? Science proves God exists, and there has been nothing to rebut that fact.

No scientist has ever proven God and there is nothing to rebut that fact.

For cause and effect, entropy, and complexity to exist together like they do in this universe, God is a requirement. This doesn't explain what God is. It only shows that He is powerful beyond any possibility of understanding of His power.

If you don't know what god is you can't say it's a requirement.

Critics of the Modal Cosmological Argument or Argument from Contingency would question whether the universe is in fact contingent. We have no idea whether this universe “had” to exist or not, nor whether it is in fact the only one and not just one of a potentially infinite number of different universes in a “multiverse” for example.

Critics also ask why God should be considered a “requirement” and inexplicably exempted from the argument that everything has a cause. If a God exists to cause the universe then, by the same argument, this God must itself have a cause, leading to an infinite regress unacceptable to most theists. Simply asking "does God have a cause of his existence?” therefore raises as many problems as the cosmological argument solves.

If God is thought not to have, or not to need, a cause of his existence, then his existence would be a counter-example to the initial premise that everything that exists has a cause of its existence! If God or the Prime Mover “just is”, then why can the universe not “just be”? Why is there a need to go a step further back? The widely accepted concept of “Occam’s Razor” suggests that the simplest solution to a problem is always the best, and that additional unnecessary complexity should be avoided.

Even if one accepts that that the universe does in fact have a beginning in time (as the generally accepted Big Bang theory suggests), the Temporal Cosmological Argument does not explain why there could not be more than one first cause/mover, or why the chain could not lead back to several ultimate causes, each somehow outside the universe (potentially leading to several different Gods).

Neither does it explain why the something which is “outside the universe” should be “God” and not some other unknown phenomenon. There is no compelling reason to equate a First Cause with God, and certainly Aristotle did not conceive of his Prime Mover as something that should be worshipped, much less as the omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent God of later Christian, Jewish and Muslim tradition.

The whole concept of causality and time as we understand it is based entirely on the context of our universe, and so cannot be used to explain the origin of the universe. Causal explanations are functions of natural laws which are themselves products of the universe we exist in, and time itself is just an aspect of the universe. If there is no “time before” the universe, then the whole notion of “cause” ceases to apply and the universe cannot sensibly have a “cause” (as we use and understand the concept). Indeed, perhaps there IS no “cause” of the universe.

Interestingly, at the sub-atomic quantum level, modern science has found that physical events are observed to have no evident cause, and particles appear to pop in and out of existence at random. In the first infinitesimal fraction of a second after the Big Bang singularity, classical physics is known to break down and just such unpredictable and counter-intuitive quantum effects are thought to apply.

[eugene1098]

You can't "prove" scientifically that God exists because that would require him to be physical, visible. He is outside of his creation, although he can and has entered into it.

[Astargath]

You can't "prove" scientifically that God exists because that would require him to be physical, visible. He is outside of his creation, although he can and has entered into it.

You can't know that. You can say the same about the flying spaghetti monster instead of God and boom there you have it, now the flying spaghetti monster is the creator and you will never be able to prove it or disprove it because he lives outside time and space and its not physical.

[BADecker]

You can't "prove" scientifically that God exists because that would require him to be physical, visible. He is outside of his creation, although he can and has entered into it.

You can't know that. You can say the same about the flying spaghetti monster instead of God and boom there you have it, now the flying spaghetti monster is the creator and you will never be able to prove it or disprove it because he lives outside time and space and its not physical.

Now you are bringing religion into it. The FSM isn't shown by science proof at all. Probability the scientific proof that God exists leaves open the idea that God might be the FSM. That is the failure of scientists in their observations, so far.

We are so far from scientific knowledge about what God is like that, revelation from God is the only thing that we have that can show what God is really like.

[BADecker]

You can't "prove" scientifically that God exists because that would require him to be physical, visible. He is outside of his creation, although he can and has entered into it.

When you start with absolutely no premeditated thoughts about what God is like, but simply take a look at the universe from a scientific standpoint, the big blank "thing" that brought the whole universe into existence fits the basic definitions of God in the dictionaries and encyclopedias.

If big bang theory could take into account the complexity of intelligence in the way that the universe shows complexity to exist, big bang might be able to be considered to be God. There are too many holes in BB theory to match what exists in ways other than the "simple" theoretical math that suggests BB might exist.