I think it is clear he/she is fighting a losing battle when it comes to trying to reprieve their NoorulHuda account. Nothing they say (and no matter which explanations they provide or which stories they concoct) will probably have ban lifted otherwise it would have been done by now. I do not believe anything the OP says. There is no genuine remorse at plagiarism, it is related to being unable to use the account to earn an income via signature campaigns. They should give up on this banned account be careful not to make the same mistakes with their other farmed accounts otherwise they will be banned too. I’m not sure but anyone who’s from my region can confirm my account is a girl’s name “Noor ul Huda”and this account gmjutt6 is a boy’s name (my brother)… I’m a girl. I know it does not matter but for the sake of argument I’m adding this.
Boyfriend, girlfriend, brother, sister, uncle or cousin - all this does not make much sense to you in what you want to prove, because it is not unusual for some members to have a feminine nickname when in fact they are men and vice versa. |
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I suppose if you wanted to, you would have done mentioned it in your post but nevertheless would you be in a position to elaborate further as to what you define as " I do something stupid". Members reading this thread might be able to advise you (while you wait for a reply from Whirlwind, that is if you have not already received it). |
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I wrote again to FortuneJack and received an answer that they would not change their decision.
After that, I wrote to the AskGamblers site, as you advised me. Now there is a delay of 2 - 4 days for publication + I do not know how much there is a delay during the proceedings. Now that you have made one last attempt with FortuneJack at trying to resolve the matter and it failed, it will be interesting to see how this matter will unfold with AskGamblers because the amount involved is very small but FortuneJack are the OP believe they are in the right. The OP taking this to arbitration seems the only way to settle the matter. Reading the previous discussion and statement of FJ will obviously shut down the door of possibility to recover your so called scam amount. You admit that you are using VPN that might connect you to other user. Even if your KYC is different to other user, Having a same IP is always a strong evidence for multiple account.
Choosing the Askgambler route is your only choice since you will need someone to verify your record on FJ which is not possible to disclose here. Having this kind of issue is very hard to resolve especially if they have an evidence for same IP on multiple account that do the same pattern of claiming bonus and bet the opposite side of your bet. The issue of having a VPN as far as FortuneJack is concerned should be deemed as a non-issue because they clearly have no problem with it: How do Gamblers benefit from VPN |
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You have a valid point and that is why Duelbits should post here providing some information that would be deemed satisfactory to the majority of those participating in this thread. In my view, the idea that Duelbits could scam the OP is as preposterous as they come because Duelbits are not scammers but the way they have handled this allegation is sub-standard and they should have been better in their communication. It has raised questions if they have allowed withdrawal of that much money (4x $500,000) and then blocking the 5th request (1x $500,000) without providing the OP with a clear indication of what their investigation team allegedly found and without asking him for details regarding a specific transaction or deposit. It does have to be said though, Duelbits have not come out of this situation looking good at all when they could have (and probably should have) at least made a public statement that would have provided a better explanation. They have asked for further information in the 15th June 2023 email, the OP has not sent it and Duelbits have not sent another therefore the situation is at a stalemate. What more (specifically) do Duelbits want from the OP? Amazing how you can say so much without saying anything.
How can someone show endless transactions? What if he doesn't use an old wallet anymore? Also, why does duelbits even want to see all of these, for what reason? And why now, after withdrawing much more before? Makes 0 sense and doesn't look good in my opinion.
Of course they can just refer to the TOS, as usual. But tell us, why? Why is OP being targeted even though he didn't violate any rules? There are no allegations of multi accounting, arbitrage betting or other nonsense casinos come up with so they don't have to pay.
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I think some members here are conflating your lack of elaborating with you treating the OP unfairly. From experience in posting in many scam allegation threads I am fairly confident Duelbits must have good reason to payout all that money to the OP and then refuse to payout the final request. From what I can see, it also looks as like the OP has not met the request to provide further information. If the OP has supplied a few Etherscan links and not much else then maybe he should gather together some more of the evidence you are requesting. Have you made it clear specifically what you are looking for him to send you (other than transactions that align with your records)? We want to address your concerns regarding withdrawal processing and assure you of our commitment to prompt service.
As a responsible gaming platform, we have implemented measures to safeguard the security and fairness of our platform. On rare occasions, our dedicated verification team may come across anomalies or unusual patterns associated with an account.
In such cases, our team conducts a thorough investigation to ensure the legitimacy of the transactions involved. This process is crucial to protect our players and uphold the integrity of Duelbits. Throughout the verification process, we work closely with the account holder, requesting specific information and ensuring their privacy and confidentiality. |
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Is the OP going to take your advice? If he really feels he has a case against FortuneJack he has several ways to make a complaint and he should seriously consider his options. If he will not ask mediators to get involved to try to solve the issue to his satisfaction (and there is nothing the forum members can do for him), what exactly will he do next? @OP, unfortunately, some casinos do not like to share some data publicly on public forums. I think you understand why they can't do that.
FortuneJack's representative explained why they banned your account and, for obvious reasons, they can't tell how they did it.
No one in this forum can help you. The best you can do is to complain to an independent mediator like casinoguru and provide all your evidences. Casinos won't mind cooperating with those mediators since some sensitive data (proofs) don't have to be published publicly.
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I second to this, because there are multiple proven cases of stealing players' money by locking their accounts unjustly and without any explanation as to why the accounts are blocked since they already have a plan of scamming and their operate the business based on the scammed funds from innocent gamblers who may not be aware of their tactic. It does not matter on which tactics scammers employ or whether it is 1xbit/1xbit1 or a different casino. If innocent gamblers applied due-diligence before sending their funds to any website then they would improve their chances of not being scammed. Good idea and initiative to include a picture, considering those who lurk around here without being logged in their accounts would not realize how bad the reputation of that account is,at first glance. Still, even though we do not have the exact numbers and we may never have them, I am certain that people like you have helped many around the internet not to lose their money to these people  Makes me wonder if a thread about this casino on the beginners and help board would be constructive or not. To be honest, we are fighting a losing battle because scammers will find a way to scam. If all we can do is highlight the scams and then hope to shield or protect some of those newbies, it means we have momentarily caused disruption to their scamming plans and they will probably find other ways to scam. Scam warning threads already exist elsewhere but I broadly agree it would be a good move to have a pinned thread. Having said that I think it would be far more constructive if any such pinned thread were not related to a single entity or organisation (such as 1xbit/1xbit1) but rather act as a generic warning. |
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If you have solved what you claim happened then is it not best now for you to lock this thread. You drew a lot of attention on yourself for something that you cannot recall whether you did it yourself. If there was a possibility you changed your password yourself and forgot about it then you should have investigated it as an option beforehand. If there is nothing more for you add here then consider locking the thread. It is possible that you did not remembered that you changed your password, lol.
There is possibility of this because I am active on many forums with different passwords. But at the time of making this post, I was sure that I was not able to login with the password I remember for this account. Now the problem is solved. I have even changed password. |
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i showed you my 5kk$ profit from rollbit, this money i cashed out in my country with P2P becasuse in our country it's legal and there is NO DOCUMENTS for it. I showed you my PNL from binance, i showed you my tax reports, SO??? i showed you all transactions from OKEX whitch i sent to DUELBITS, i pinned a lot video and screenshots for all what you ask. for now i have nothing to add, because you do not say any true info about what you want. so just withdraw my money and close my account. 15.06.2023, 18:04, "Joao (Support)" < support@duelbits.com>: If you have given them what they asked for and they have said the information does not align with the actual records then there is a dispute. If you adhered to their requests for proofs and documents, you should not hesitate to take any form of legal action. If they receive a legal notice from your lawyer maybe they will have to give a further explanation as to why they refused the withdrawals or they will write to the Court asking for proceedings to not go ahead based on them releasing evidence to a judge. Just because Duelbits are not stating the exact issue that made them stop you from making the withdrawal does not mean there is no issue and does not mean they will not release that information at a later date to yourself, your lawyer or a judge. I get your point, and I agree that the only thing OP can do is pursue this matter through legal action.
But what other people asking here is 'What could DuelBits do better in this matter?' your previous post seems to imply that DuelBit shouldn't be 'punish' for what they've done to the OP, and they are not obligated to do more effort to find the best way to solve the problem.
I am not saying that the OP is 100% right and DuelBits is scamming, OP has sent step-by-step the details on how he acquire the fund he use to gamble, but seems like nothing is right, and theres no details on what is wrong, only shallow explanation that it's not align with their system.
The next question would be what would the other gamblers do? should they keep depositing money to the site while they know Duelbits could do the same to them as they do the the OP. The Duelbits forum representative should post here again to explain whatever they can about the issue and either contradict or challenge the OP on his statements or simply accept they selective scammed him. A statement from Duelbits in this thread is overdue. I am not implying Duelbits or any other casino should not be punished in any capacity, on the contrary any scammer or selective scammer should be punished but as of now we do not have a better picture of what is going on because (apart from one post from the Duelbits forum representative) this thread has effectively been a one-side story. Regarding the deposits made by the OP, after he sent them various proofs he received this from Duelbits in reply: " In order to thoroughly investigate and address this issue, we kindly request that you provide additional evidence that clearly shows the origin and path of the funds involved. It would be helpful if the proofs include specific dates, times, and any relevant transaction reference numbers. By providing such information, we can better understand the situation and work towards a satisfactory resolution." I understand there are screenshots of how successful the OP may have been at other casinos but at the moment keep his alleged winning streak aside. Did the OP send additional information after this email from Duelbits on 15th June 2023? https://etherscan.io/tx/0x34e7a29b26d7a66a2ae7204902dc426792d1b111801433afe163179f7b47e066https://etherscan.io/tx/0x11f859c8c0d8ecf8a9f33b015869562e108bcf534821d7f96f050bfce0e8437fhttps://etherscan.io/tx/0xdcb676c6c018c05aab1261311f4a4db2b9b129a12a6e8bf41df5191aafc4a577In the deposits screenshot it shows the OP made 10 deposits within a 24 day period ranging from $23,000 to $199,000 with both BTC and USDT. Unless I am missing something, if all he sent to Duelbits were 3 Etherscan links with a few thousand USD$ in transactions and nothing else subsequently even though he was requested to send more, then that could be (in part) the reason why the issue currently remains unresolved. Before he commences legal action against Duelbits I think the OP should at least explore this avenue beforehand. |
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Your comments have been noted and we agree to disagree because I am saying my assumption is correct  Keeping aside our differences of opinion related to this matter, what do you think the OP should do next in order to try have access to the funds he claims were scammed. Apart from proceeding via a legal channel what else would you suggest and do you think he should appoint a lawyer to represent him? Im not saying Duelbit acammed or not but im saying your ssumation and logic are very wrong |
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Do you think it is highly probable they already know what those patterns are and they are not willing to divulge them in a public forum out of fear that others will attempt to follow suit? If they have evaluated the case and concluded they will not pay on the basis of fraud taking place as well as the OP willingly sign up to terms and conditions that he is now (allegedly) in breach of, there is not much he can do. FortuneJack seem to have paid back deposits but are not willing to pay winnings based on fraud. If the OP wants to take this to a complaints tribunal then he really should proceed if he believes he is in the right.
The Behavioral Analysis team discovered a common pattern among these three accounts, including similar depositing methods, participation in a specific sports event, and matching geographical locations. Consequently, the Behavioral Analysis team has determined that there have been two violations of our terms: Multi-Accounting and Bonus Abuse. In simpler terms, it appears that arbitrage betting has taken place, which involves placing bets on the same sportsbook event and abusing the Welcome Deposit Cashback Offer (20%).
Is this really considerable? Only three factors and someone will be considered "the same" to others? People who live the same country probably of higher chance to use the same deposit method, and that's already 2/3 of the factors you've mentioned. The the last factor as OP mentioned it's only for big event/sports and made only 4 bets (based on the screenshot). And again, what are the other factors that affects in case of OP that he was considered as multi-accounting because i'm not convinced that those 3 of them is enough considering you have thousands of users to check especially if the the device, browsers, connection/isp, screen size are not the same. |
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This might be a timely reminder to those that are thinking of sending funds to 1xbit/1xbit to take a look at their reputation within the forum. THere cannot be a doubt that not all of the scam allegations against them are genuine but what can be said is there are a substantial number of allegations that are backed up with some form of credible evidence. I request that those that find their way to this thread and this post, please refrain from using their website. |
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They have not stated it is unacceptable or mentioned that it is in breach of any rules or code of conduct therefore maybe using a VPN is not related to the specific case. As far as FortuneJack is concerned, is using a VPN really problematic in any capacity after reading this link: How do Gamblers benefit from VPNIt is safe to conclude the OP using a VPN is probably not at the heart of this story. You’ve got a point here and I smell something is really wrong here on handling your case. They complete already the KYC after the first deposit then allows you to deposit multiple times then bust your account when you are already in profit.
Do you use VPN while playing on all the day recorded on your deposit history? There’s a chance that you use an IP from known scammer then it connected to you after you use the VPN. Casino usually make an audit during withdrawal and not during deposit. But one thing I’m confused was your account is already verified so it means that they already check your account for this potential problem. Let’s wait the representative to join here @Fortunejack
Yes, I use vpn. I am sure that for the bookmaker this is already perfectly clear, because the IP address is constantly changing, which immediately indicates this. Perhaps it coincided with another user who had previously placed bets with this bookmaker. But does the coincidence of the IP address give the right to steal money? I am sure that identity verification is also done for a reason. You agree with me? My IP address is not written in my passport, it does not belong to me and cannot be used for identification!!! I'm already silent about public Wi-Fi ... |
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If the OP has claimed a phantom change of password took place yet on the same the day he applied to a signature campaign using an address he has used on at least 8 different occasions while applying for various campaigns, then I cannot see the benefit. If there is another option then that would be interesting to see. What exactly he thought he would achieve with this thread is the real question now. As a result, always think about what you write about; sometimes innocent stupidity can lead to serious consequences. You are right, what would happened to op if couldn't be able to prove himself or herself as people demanded. Any bad effect of what it would results to the account owner? Because i believe op may only get justice if all those things said by some people here are being carried out to sign a message with the said address mentioned earlier by @JollyGood. |
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I would like to remind those posting in this thread that the Duelbits forum representative has posted a reply to this allegation. They posted the reply on 2nd June 2023 and last logged in on 8th June 2023. Though some members may find the reply incomplete because they have not added an update, I would say that without disclosing in full the situation to anybody (as they have seen it unfold) what more are they supposed to do? Duelbits is not some selective scamming enterprise they are a highly respected organisation sponsoring international events which might not constitute a free licence absolving them of responsibilities but it certainly does give them a seal of respect and approval in the eyes of many. On the surface would they scam a customer over a $500,000 payout when they have paid out past winnings of over $500,000? I think they would not do it. Keeping aside the golden rule to not believe that just because someone has never scammed before therefore they will/can never scam, I find it difficult to fully understand what the OP is complaining about when he signed up to their Terms and Conditions when he chose to enter in to a contract with Duelbits. If the OP believes he will not receive any help from Duelbits then surely the logical step would be to try to get his funds if he believes they were unfairly seized from him. There are legal channels for taking his complaint forward therefore what will he do next? We would like to address your concerns regarding withdrawal processing.
Firstly, we want to emphasise that we have always prioritised timely withdrawals and have consistently processed them promptly. It is not a problem for Duelbits to process a withdrawal of $500k or higher amounts almost instantly. We often process withdrawals of this magnitude as part of our normal day to day operations.
However, it's important to note that as a responsible gaming platform, we have certain measures in place to identify any activities that could potentially compromise the security and fairness of our platform. In rare instances, our dedicated verification team may detect certain anomalies or unusual patterns related to an account.
When such occurrences arise, our team may need to conduct a more thorough investigation to ensure the legitimacy of the transactions involved. This process is necessary to protect both our players and Duelbits as a whole. During this time, we rely on the user's assistance and understanding to provide any additional information or cooperation required.
While we value the privacy of our users and cannot disclose specific details regarding the detection of suspicious activity, we assure you that any delays experienced during this verification process are only to ensure the utmost security and transparency.
Our team works diligently to complete this process as efficiently as possible, minimising any inconvenience caused.
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After reading this the first thing that came to mind were a couple of recent cases where threads were used to express disappointment at receiving a neutral or negative tag and as a result of that what followed were connections to alt-accounts and farming accounts and more neutral or negative feedback with trust exclusions too. It could be a possible fabricated story which might later be used to justify a claim of denying it's original involvement in the Plagiarism case |
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What happened was that you started the thread because it had some meaning and/or value to you however like a huge number of other newbies (that start threads complaining and alleging misdemeanours) you did not revisit to read what was being said. Keeping the obvious aside which would be related to you being busy or otherwise pre-occupied, I along with others would wonder why you did not make time to post again two day after you created your bcquiet account. What happened:: |
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Attention seeking is not out of the question in this wonderful forum of ours because we seem to attract people of all dispositions here Whether the OP is doing exactly that or whether he is doing else remains unknown but it seems he applied to join a signature campaign using a previously used BTC address on the same day this thread began. Pretty funny situation. After reading all the posts, I got the impression that the OP just decided to draw attention to himself, not at all thinking that people could easily check if the password was previously changed or not. Topic from the category "just to write something" But the situation now is that the OP has created even more fuss with his account, and people are demanding that he prove if the OP is the real owner or if the cheater is trying to protect himself from future claims. As a result, always think about what you write about; sometimes innocent stupidity can lead to serious consequences. |
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With the greatest respect to everybody here especially to the OP, I think he should consider locking the thread and letting it move down the page listings. We can all see he has repaid the amounts that were involved and both affected businesses (Coinomize and YoMix) have moved on too therefore if the reputation of the OP is intact then he should probably consider locking this thread.
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Well, the OP used an address today when applying to join a signature campaign. He used an address he has used previously for joining signature campaigns: bc1qalv6lg6qt7g72jx35th694zzfa98gc6d9zm0w5 He should be able to sign this address otherwise he would not have applied to join another campaign with it today therefore in this particular instance would it really matter? Today when I tried to login, my old password was not working. Was my account hacked ? Do I need to worry about it.
I was able to reset password as email was not changed.
Can you sign a message using an address you posted a while ago ? You can use the below format -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
My account krishnaverma is OK and I have no more issues. The current date is <date>
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
<insert address here>
<insert signature here>
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- |
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