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1741  Other / Politics & Society / "UK Govt. Approves Net Censorship – Free Speech Dies" on: February 14, 2020, 11:04:15 AM
https://www.libertynation.com/internet-censorship-now-government-backed-british-free-speech-dies/
1742  Other / Meta / Re: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. on: February 14, 2020, 10:30:58 AM
Regarding abuse of the reporting system, perhaps some kind of compromise can be reached. Some users use reports as a method of interfering with, silencing, and getting retribution upon other users. Of course this makes moderator complicity indistinguishable from them simply doing their job, and it is unreasonable to expect them to keep up with every petty dispute.

My suggestion for a potential mitigation of this problem, is to create a system that notifies the moderator if a single user is reporting a very large amount of posts for a single user. The idea being, that if a user is targeting another user by spamming reports, those reports would start being highlighted from a yellow, to orange, to red scale, making identification of users reporting large amounts of posts from a single user easily identifiable. This at the very least will allow moderators to quickly identify potential abuse of the reporting system and take that into account as part of their judgement call in taking action against a reported post.

I think this would, assuming that in fact there is no moderator complicity in these actions, help them to recognize this kind of abuse, and prevent it, as well as help assuage any accusations of complicity while still maintaining opacity regarding individual moderator actions to the general forum public. Of course I have no idea how difficult this would be to implement, so I have no way of knowing if this would be worth the time to create such a system, but if it is not exceptionally difficult I think it might be a valuable addition for all involved.
1743  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod's Change on: February 14, 2020, 09:58:01 AM
Right, now its Theymos's fault too. Funny, this kind of thread seems familiar, almost like you do it every time you go too far to elicit sympathy and escape repercussions for your actions, every single time returning to repeat the exact same abusive behavior.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074434.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144112.0

The same old sad children's party magician doing all the same old sad tricks, and getting mad at the kids who point out you can't really pull quarters out of your ears. You attack attack and attack endlessly, then when it bites you in the ass you play a victim, run away for a little bit, and resume the exact same behavior. Of course you want to be the victim while the victimization you subjected others to still stands and hope everyone just forgets and you get to keep the little lies and vendettas you have collected.

You can do all the things you want to serve the community without any power within the trust system, which you belong nowhere near as you have very clearly demonstrated. Of course that is not what you really value most, serving the community, you value the authority over others that you are free to lord over people, and lash out compulsively to serve your own personal impulses.
1744  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: February 14, 2020, 09:29:20 AM
Nope, same old Vod. See the OP from 2015. He has had me on his shit list for some time. He thought he had an opening to go after me but he miscalculated, and like every time he abused the trust system against me in the past he is going to suffer repercussions for it. How do I know this? Because the same thing that lead Vod to abuse the system against me will be the same thing to ensure he will suffer repercussions. He can't help himself.

It appears that we must do something to help VOD, and all of those other members that can't resist using tags to vent their personal frustrations. That is to remove the tagging system.

Once they are required to prevent objective evidence of direct financial threat / danger. Then they will need to rely upon critical reasoning and robust argument to settle whatever disputes they have. They can do so without damaging free speech here and allowing scammers to brute force the trust system to permit them a clean trust score.

Edit - VOD now seems to have red tagged me since I have been supporting your truthful assessment of his recent behavior.

This is useful but demonstrates even more clearly all that you have said is true. VOD seems to have become unstable in recent times.  This is unfortunate.


Yep, as usual, the same group of users using the trust system as a weapon to try to dictate the speech of others.


Vod   2020-02-14      If you can't post from your main account, it usually means you don't believe what you write, and are just trolling. Recommend ignoring such cowards.

nutildah   2020-02-11      alt of cryptohunter, aka the-one-above-all, but they are trying harder to be civilized in this incarnation so I will just leave them a neutral rating for now.

TMAN   2020-02-11   Reference   Newbie who suddenly is an expert on forum politics. Likely to Be CH or TOAA. No one comes to this forum fresh and starts hammering out in rep/Meta

suchmoon   2020-02-10   Reference   Fake shit-stirring noob.


Ironic Vod, with your behavior you prove why he needs to use an alt, so he doesn't have to subject his hard earned reputation to your childish lashing out using the trust system as your personal toy. Threats of leaving negatives unless they shut up. Very classy Nutilduh. Almost like you are not above making fake accusations to settle your personal vendettas if you are willing to threaten people using the trust system to silence them. Like I said, these people can't help themselves.
1745  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: February 14, 2020, 09:21:09 AM
Request this thread be moved to Reputation.  This is not a meta issue anymore - just projections from a mentally ill stalker.  :/

The issue itself is Meta, even if TS's replies are Reputation -- not much I can do about that.

It seems rather obviously focused on me, as Vod suggested. Of course as usual you want to enforce the rules to the letter for everyone else but be able to bend and break them yourself.
1746  Other / Meta / Re: Self Mod Topics In Politics & Society Are For Weak Children - Change My Mind on: February 14, 2020, 09:18:27 AM
Self-modded threads aren't great for a true and honest open debate and it might be antithetical to the very concept of free speech but at the same time people are also free to self-moderate their threads whether we like it or not. If you don't like that they've self-modded then you are free to create your own thread to discuss or reply to the posts in there and they can choose whether to respond or not. I would look at their thread as their own property and they can do what they want with it whether you like it or not, much like you are well within your rights to kick someone out of your house if you don't like what they say. I think we should encourage users not to self-mod political threads but at the same time people are free to do so and everyone else is free to either not comment, comment or create their own threads in response.

All you are doing is telling me a matter of fact, not arguing a principle. You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. They are free to be scared little children that need a safe space, and I am free to shame them for it.
1747  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: February 14, 2020, 01:10:01 AM
Nope, same old Vod. See the OP from 2015. He has had me on his shit list for some time. He thought he had an opening to go after me but he miscalculated, and like every time he abused the trust system against me in the past he is going to suffer repercussions for it. How do I know this? Because the same thing that lead Vod to abuse the system against me will be the same thing to ensure he will suffer repercussions. He can't help himself.
1748  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: February 14, 2020, 12:56:19 AM
All the time eh? Quote me saying that once.

No, I'm dropping this - you are trolling now. 

I do appreciate the attempt to be Canadian , eh?   Smiley

Rather convenient you are always above responding whenever I ask you to substantiate your claims. Seems like a rather distinct pattern of you avoiding substantiating your accusations against me.
1749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] China Virus Source on: February 14, 2020, 12:50:03 AM
Exactly why vaccinations should never be compulsory. This puts us a single step away from genocide if bad actors have control of the process.

Even precisely TARGETED genocide..
You could just say "Whites need vaccine #2, Asians need vaccine #3, and Hispanics need vaccine #1..
Then you could just release the virus #2 that you have compromised all the Whites to, and BAM targeted racial genocide..
Or you could just give everyone in for example Columbia vaccine #6, then wipe them out with corresponding virus #6 and then be like "Woah! What happened here?"..

This is the thing that the people frothing at the mouth to demonize "antivaxxers" like they are chanting for the death of Emmanuel Goldstein in the two minutes of hate never seem to understand. It is not about efficacy, it is about bodily autonomy. It is not like there was a precedent already set for horrible medical experimentation done on people without informed consent already for this exact reason... oh wait... right... Josef Mengele.
1750  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: February 14, 2020, 12:44:36 AM
On point as usual Vod.

Then stop posting I am off topic all the time? 

All the time eh? Quote me saying that once.
1751  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: February 14, 2020, 12:42:38 AM
You lie constantly Vod, while accusing others of lying.

I will simply point out that the only idiots calling me a liar are the ones that have been shown to be dishonest accused of being dishonest in a refractory manner.

The community trusts I am honest. knows, I Vod am full of shit, they just don't want to have to deal with me.  Smiley

Fixed that for you.
1752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] China Virus Source on: February 14, 2020, 12:34:46 AM
This has got me thinking..

I have read some information about some vaccines make you MORE likely to die from getting infected by a similar illness..

What if they call everyone in to get vaccinated.. Based on their social credit score they get vaccine #1, #2, #3, #4, or #5 - based on social credit scores of A-E..
Then, they could release a virus that is only super effective against those who got vaccine #5 but would not kill the majority of the higher scorers that got vaccines 1-4..
Later they could release another virus that would be supereffective against those that got vaccine #3 or #4 if they wished....

They could setup specific targets of a population by giving them a certain vaccine, and then wipe them out with a virus they are weakened to by said vaccine, and kill most of those people while giving the rest only a slight cough..

They could just give everyone in Tibet vaccine #5 and then wipe them out with a virus that would only minimally effect most of everyone else that has never got vaccine #5..


Like your idea of getting people sick with a vaccine on purpose, they could use them to compromise the immune system of specific groups of people to a specific virus or whatever, and then later release that specific virus, and wipe em all right out good.. Like installing a target on their backs..

What do you think? Could it even be done (vaccinations) years in advance and then used at their will anytime thereafter?

Exactly why vaccinations should never be compulsory. This puts us a single step away from genocide if bad actors have control of the process.
1753  Other / Meta / Re: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position on: February 14, 2020, 12:30:03 AM
VOD does not appear to be a significant abuser when compared to some other members. He seems far less active than in previous years.

Maybe because somebody finally stood up to him and proved he’s a liar so nobody believes anything he says now?

Nope.  I've never lied.  I've never beaten my partner to the point they required an ambulance.  I've never kept coins sent to me for someone else.  I've never lied about about offering to sponsor BPIP.  I've never lied about being audited. I've never stood by and did nothing when I believed children were being sexually abused.  I've never stolen Bitcoin Cash from the community before.

What have I done?  Stood up to you and endured your lies for a year now.  If you want to continue this, I will start a forum on another domain and we can discuss it there, so your actions can be known to the entire bitcoin community.  You are too protected here, and everyone is sick of this bullshit.

:/

You lie constantly Vod, while accusing others of lying. You suffer from an obsessive compulsive disorder regardless of you willing to admit it or not. Since you can't control your compulsions to lash out at people using the trust system as your personal toy, you should have no power within it. The only person you have to blame for this situation is yourself. None of this had to happen, but you chose to constantly escalate at every turn because you can't help yourself. These are not the traits of some one who should be in any position of authority.
1754  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: February 14, 2020, 12:26:22 AM
Request this thread be moved to Reputation.  This is not a meta issue anymore - just projections from a mentally ill stalker.  :/

Yeah, move it to reputation as I originally requested Wink

On point as usual Vod.
1755  Other / Meta / Re: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. on: February 13, 2020, 09:17:40 PM
It has been suggested before that the moderators get an optional drop down menu with the most common reasons for removal as well as the ability to make a comment. I think this would be a good addition. After all, if there is not feedback why something is removed, how can people correct their behavior if they aren't even told what the problem is? This is a common criticism on platforms like Facefuck, Googlag, and Twatter. People often want to comply but have no idea what they need to change to comply.
1756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 13, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-has-ground-halt-ground-indicators-confirm-worst-case-scenario

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-admission-who-advisor-says-coronavirus-may-infect-over-5-billion-people
1757  Other / Meta / Re: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP on: February 13, 2020, 08:46:46 PM
My ideas aren't so weak I need to remove opposing points, unlike you and Twittyseal who rely on self moderated threads so that your ideas are never challenged.

Are your ideas so weak you need to remove opposing points?  Or do you rely on self moderated threads so that your ideas are never challenged?

I don't need to remove anything, because my locked thread is a log, not a discussion. Are my ideas not being challenged here, and am I not engaging those challenges? Try harder Vod.

Just seems like your problem could easily be resolved by opening a self-modded thread.

My ideas aren't so weak I need to remove opposing points, unlike you and Twittyseal who rely on self moderated threads so that your ideas are never challenged.

Dude. That's exactly what you are requesting: that an opposing viewpoint be removed. As for the off-topicness of the viewpoint... here's your OP from that thread:


So how is Twitchy's post off-topic? What do you define the topic as?

Its not like you're discussing earth-shaking ideas here.

Ah I see, you get to define the value of my speech now. Of course, that is usually what totalitarian minded people seek to do, be the one to dictate the value of the freedoms of others. What does his post have to do with ANTIFA? Please explain. He didn't attempt to have a discussion or counter anything, he is simply posting off topic in a pathetic "whataboutism" totally unrelated to the topic. He wants to have his own private little walled garden threads where no one is critical of him, then he wants to also come to my threads and be free to post off topic as well.
1758  Other / Meta / Re: Remove red trust, it is nothing but noise. Getting sickening to watch. on: February 13, 2020, 08:41:26 PM
I won't be negging you just as I didn't neg PN7. Have at it so long as you can remain un-cunty.

I.E. "Stop saying things I don't like or I will use the trust system against you to force you into silence."
1759  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Cult of Lauda] An historic peace: Rome’s treaty with Carthage on: February 13, 2020, 08:35:52 PM
in the hope everyone forgets it is still ongoing
I don't think anyone here expects anyone to ever forget anything Tongue
Indeed it is so!

Success! Don't forget, we've all made many mistakes and said things we shouldn't have; but forgive and let's move on together.  Smiley

Rather convenient you get to just "move on" after abusing the trust system and not doing anything to rectify the situation when you are perfectly capable of doing so. Like I said, you lot only "move on" after the horse you are beating is a pile of bones and you got what you wanted with little or no compromise.
1760  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust System Abuse By Nullius on: February 13, 2020, 08:32:02 PM
So you don't think leaving Vod a negative rating for doxing and threatening to report OGNasty to the IRS is justified? Some how it always seems the one who should just "let it go" are the ones who have legitimate grievances simply because no one wants to deal with it, not because it is what is right. I would also like to remind you that I had let his past abuse go, but it didn't matter, he just continued his antagonism anyway in spite of being rebuked for it by the community more than once.
I mean, I don't want to judge this whole situation between vod and ognasty, and all the other fuckall disputes there are, its all because of ego and pride that y'all are carrying with you. And over time, that ego has grown into some sort of an unhealthy obsession wherein which some of you decided to hire PIs, contact IRS, offer death threats, bounty to stalk someone, and who knows what else. I am not supporting either parties cause it is stupidly ridiculous the way it is, and no one wants to make amends. If you dont like each other, ignore the person and move for the sake of hell, and remove them from your trust lists. But stirring more drama up has made no positive affect on any of y'alls lives so all of you're winning no oscar here. 

Excuse me. Don't lump me in with that description. I did absolutely NONE of those things. I don't deserve to be lumped in with this garbage false equivalence. Whatever you think about other disputes has nothing to do with Vod's behavior in regard to his rating for me. How much more evidence do you need to demonstrate Vod is abusive and a danger to others here? Does he need to be let off the hook for another 5 years? Ten? I went out of my way to avoid him, he follows me everywhere looking for any possible way to inject himself into a situation, antagonize, and throw accusations around in addition to his repeated and regular abuse of the trust system over a period of years. I would love to have no relationship to Vod whatsoever, but he has made it clear that is not only impossible, but is not what he wants. He can't control his obsessive behavior.
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