LOL, this has had the largest and most powerful mining network of all cryptocurrencies since the dawn of time..
This is Bitcoin..

I bumped a bunch of old coins I could think of and think I have the spammers pushed back to page 5 now..

Can you guys think of any more unbumped ANNs to bump up and give newbs a read?
Maybe some epic scamcoins to give them a good education of what can happen?



I almost think if this bump change happened before the last BTC pump, BTC would have gone to 50k or so and ETH and all it's scamcoin children wouldn't have stolen the incoming investment to BTC into the hands of all those scammers..
All these stipud ICOs really hurt BTC in investment and image IMO.. Shame..

Edit: LOL, I Put the top first 8 threads on page 1 in Announcements (Altcoins) just now and like half the rest on page 1..
That is some serious bump power..

You might have a great point here.. I didn't dig this accounts background but it could be quite concerning..


I think backtests are when you run your program against past history to see how it would have done, like a demo.. This can be manipulated though, like all the climate models that say we should all be on fire by now, you can get them to say whatever you want with some tweaking..



To be honest 495% gain in 2 years of crypto trading is poor performance IMO.. Ok, maybe that's decent for it being passive, but that is not an insane number.. That's only a bit over doubling your coin every year and wouldn't even be worth my time manually trading for..
My manual trading stats make that look like chump change, even in bear markets..

I'm not so sure that any press is good press here.. Burning bridges here like you are could be a huge mistake for your project..

Even if you have an excellent bot, you are failing your team miserably with your representation.. IMO..

He could have meant that the market risk is not placed on the lender in this situation.. This looks like a set repayment offer regardless of what the market does or how the bot performs it is guaranteed interest/profit..
In this scenario he could totally steal your coin by WDing it though so the risk here is of him scamming..

Wasn't very wise to ask for "UP to 5BTC".. You made yourself a target with that Mr. CryptoSparks



with this option their is no risk of him scamming, WDing your coins, but you are at risk of market p/l and bot performance p/l..

"Risk Free" were stupid words to use..

I don't think the risk/profit balance is that great really given that he wants to socialize 30% of the profits but none of any possible losses..
2 is a way for him to not lose any money if the bot looses but make 30% of the profits when it wins.. Not real fair but IMO it's up to the lender/invester to negotiate or accept any deal or not..


CryptoSparks - you did a piss poor job of representing your product here, made yourself a target by asking for "UP to" too large of sums to start off with, and made poorly worded statements about "risk free" and how "api keys act as private keys" thereby opening yourself up to much criticism and suspicion even if you do have a real product that you do honestly believe in..


I am not absolutely convinced that his is surely a scammer but if his intentions were good he surely did fail due to his poor language performance and offensiveness.

Maybe he is a scammer though.. It is a possibility..

Agree..


You probably know more about APIs and exchange bots than me so I trust your judgement..

The only "evidence of his legitimacy" I may have brought to the table here is that I know FruitsBasket knows an elite coder friend of mine, who I do trust, that has been working on trading bots for a long time, and I have a hunch this bot could be legit due to that association..
It's not "cryptosparks" though and I don't want to drag their name into this mess..

Me and Fruits worked together a bit with some of the most elite coders I have ever met and afaik he did a good job so a vouch from Fruits on this lends it some credibility to me..


Good debate guys..
You guys do a good job of protecting the community here even though you might rush to judgement a bit too fast sometimes, though it is far from completely unfounded so I understand where you are coming from..
Maybe you guys saved someone from a scam here or maybe it is unfortunate that CryptoSparks handled this so poorly..

Those looks like technically correct statements to me with analogies in red.. Analogies that you may not agree with but not vastly incorrect..
API keys do pretty much work like private keys but for your account at a service and not on the actual blockchain, only on their internal centralized ledger..


Did you give him an API key with full privilege of a funded account? If so he should have been able to WD your coins no?


Don't hate me for being the devils advocate here, maybe I am wrong and will learn something..

Well shit..

I've read these threads in the OP and based on just this I don't think I would support this flag.. I'll need to read the whole thread in meta too (I have ignored it)..

Also, I know FruitsBasket from outside this forum, and where I know FruitsBasket from their were extremely talented coders, software engineers, computer scientists, exchange devs, and yes, people who have been working on trading bots for years now.. Elite coders in the crypto space..
Therefore, I wouldn't say it is out of the question that this is a legit trading bot and wouldn't doubt that I know some of the people that have worked on it.. Lends it a bit of credibility from my perspective..


While I don't see this happening on such a large high volume market like Bitmex, it certainly could be true on a small market if you had enough liquidity to move the market yourself.. Whale the market around..


"risk free" isn't the way Id put it but I what he was talking about is their ability to outright make off your your coin..
If you set up the exchange account yourself, and give them your API with no withdraw permission, they will not be able to WD your funds but only place trades..

Their would still be risks including..
Bitmex scamming..
Poor trade bot performance or even malicious trade bot performance (on a smaller market you could trade a "hacked" account into your own hands on another account and make off with their coin value but I don't think so on such a huge market)
But they couldn't just WD your funds..

As far as the other option, them using your money on their account with their bot but they give you a copy of the API keys with WD permission, the API keys would kinda "work like private keys" in a way allowing you to WD from it at any time.. It would work more like username and password access to the account than like a "private key" but I don't think he was trying to imply it would be like being in control of your own private keys which you obviously are not with any exchange but a DEX..


I absolutely agree that this guy is proposing a risky investment, and could do more to openly state the risks involved, but shouldn't investors (or lenders) be able to weigh the risk themselves?

Did he really?


This looks like a promise to repay a loan principle 10% per month + 5% monthly interest no matter if the bot works or not, no?
Over the term of the loan their would be "almost 30%" profit for the lender, right?
BTW 5% per month interest is not that high of interest for the lending section here.. Many loans are like 10% on a week or 2 loan which would be 20%-40% per month..


Maybe this guy is an asshole in his replies to criticism but I don't know if he is trying to outright scam..
Offering a risky proposition where it would be possible for him to scam, sure..

This proposition..
Looks pretty legit, very low risk of scam, and possible profits/losses depending on how well the bot works..


Lets take a look at this...


Suchmoon - While this is probably a bad way of explaining how API keys work "like private keys" probably isn't the best analogy, API keys do look a lot like private keys, and API keys can allow you to control the funds in the account, but the exchange does still have your real private keys just like manually operating an exchange account..

Vod - Speculation..

AdolfinWolf -    "Auto-Trading bots" utilizing margin trading always ends with people in tears." - While this may usually be the case "always" is not true..
"There is no such thing as a bot that can generate constant profits as promised by this user, or make "Intelligent trades"." - this is also not true, almost all of the serious wall street trading is done by AI bots and you bet they make huge money.. HFT (high frequency trading) AI bots and order que skipping bots (scalper bots?) that make massive amounts of money on the stock exchanged are most definitely a thing..
If you go watch the books even at https://pro.coinbase.com/trade/BTC-USD it is pretty obvious that probably something like 95% of the orders being placed and retracted there are done by bots, market maker bots (due to the fee structure), and I highly doubt they would be doing it if they weren't making money..

DireWokfM14- Where did he say that an API key gives you absolutely as much control over coin as does a true private key? If he said this exactly I'll support his flag and tag him myself but I'm pretty sure he said that API keys are like private keys to control your exchange account, which they are, and you can move your coin with them, which you can..

That's definately a better way to put it - API keys are private keys that let you control your exchange account, but the exchange still has the real private keys of the real coin..
As a matter of face API keys ARE infact private keys, they just aren't crypto private keys, but they are software private keys.. Aren't they?

nutildah - maybe this is what you suspect but it's not something you can prove..


This is a lot of reasonable doubt here IMO..

Holy cow, speak of the devil..
Hasn't been online in days and then all of a sudden BAM, there he is like magic.. Must be some sort of autist..

I was more alluding to your scam education rather than your built rep..

No offence to these specific users but just some quick examples of trust scores based almost soley on scambusting I could grab fast and easy from the current rep board..





Again, I don't intend to say anything bad against these users but this is just an example that shows that "scambusting" is a very effective avenue to build reputation, maybe the most effective.. Not even saying that this is their intention at all, but it could be someones intention..

Remember mdayonliner?

Also scambusters would probably make the most dangerous scammers themselves due to their scam education and expertise..
I can't find my old post about QSs rep but I said something along the lines of "If he was a scammer he would be an extremely dangerous scammer"..
Who could get away with Murder better than an experienced murder detective that knows all the ways to catch murderers?



It's not literal man and like I said it is sort of a compliment to be called an "autist".. It means you are better at something than mostly everyone else.. So good that, the joke goes, you must be some sort of freak with autism, to be that good at it..

Wow I'm surprised to see this come to the top! Good oldschool choice bumper

Maybe you are onto something about where they are getting their copied posts from..
Plagiarism is pretty serious business here..  Report it as that and they will be permabanned along with any alt accounts linkable to them..

I've been thinking more like this about this thread all day..



"the almighty power of that cha cha cha cha chopper"
Lil Wayne < better not plagiarise..

Or did Wayne mean a fast Harley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wz1Q7PsO7E

"Autist" is a term of endearment meaning someone that is exceptionally good at a specific task but is probably a weird nerd, socially akward, or "incel" in real life..  
"Autist" usually refers to internet detectives who are great at internet sleuthing..
Based on the meaning of autism, an autistic person might be able to count 1487 toothpicks on the floor instantly, seemingly by magic, but might not even be able to make a sandwich or dress themselves..
See the movie Rain Man..

One may expect an autist to know what an autist is but their might be a bit of a culture gap..

So I see an account that I think is hacked but I would really hate to unintentionally harass this user or have this user harassed by publicly posting my suspicion if I am wrong..

This is a highly green trusted account and I would argue has a historically significant post history that I would hate to see tampered with by the hacker..

I sent it a pm..
But I don't know if that is the right thing to do or if I should do more..

If it is hacked I don't think slamming it with flags and red trust is the right thing to do.. Rather, I think it should be frozen or something so the hacker doesn't go destroying it..

It would be nice if admin could stop this account from deleting or editing old posts and/or trust.. Even if we need to red tag and flag this account due to the hack I also believe users removing old positive trust from it would be a shame..

In the time since I noticed it now the PW and email have been changed too.. I think it just happened but don't know where that log thing is..
It doesn't look like it is actively trying to scam or anything but it looks like the hacker is testing the waters by posting with it. Posts that seem quite out of character for the true owner, and sent a bunch of merit for the first time..

I PMd Switzerland about it and they agree it looks extremely suspicious.. Also one problem is that their is a lot of potential for bias against this account and I can't help but feel some would just love for it to be erased from BTCT history..

What do?

Sometimes I "post burst" kinda and am somewhat an inconsistent poster..

Usually I just read and don't post anything, I have over 86 days login time (not always logged in) and visit often but don't post, but when I do get in the mood to post I might make a few posts, or post for a few days/weeks, and then not post for a while or whatever..

My interests also come and go.. I might be really into crypto, or this forum, for a couple months, get bored of it, and move on to one of my other hobbies/interests for a while..
Sometimes I put a huge amount of work into a project and just get burnt out on it and can't bring myself to touch it again for a few months or something, but I have many interests and just move on to something else for a while, and eventually come back to what I got burnt out on after a break from it..

I like not having to do anything and just do whatever I want.. When I must do or finish this or that, meet some deadline or quota, it sucks and I don't enjoy it.. Actually it kinda gives me a phobia of doing it at all if I have to do it which makes me procrastinate and sometimes decrease the quality of my work.. I like to take my time to do things right at my own pace and when I want to do it.. I wouldn't post here at all if I didn't want to do it..

This is the reason I don't apply for campaigns with minimum post quotas.. Just knowing that I have to do it will make me not want to do it and put me in a poor mindset..

Maybe like BTC???

I hate to selfishly say that I hope for oil jobs to surge but this would be a great time for me for oil jobs to surge..
It's about time to go on another adventure..

760k sat

.0071BTC

If you know your old BTC addy(s) then google it to find it posted under your username..
If you have any old BTCT notification emails in your email account you can probably find clues in there also to lead you to where you can find your old account..