"The Sun" didn't do this, people who work for them did allegedly. Hold those responsible accountable if a crime was committed and not reported with foreknowledge. Be careful not to allow outrage impinge on the media's ability to speak freely because the result of that is worse. |
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Having a cooldown time is also not the best option. If you can't ignore users doing this lock/unlock, opening a REEEEEEEEEEEE: thread is the next best option.
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Yeah; this is a big deal. If it was unintended you you to be back on DT TEC.... well; no worries... shit happens. I have to keep in mind Theymos is the one up on the pedestal (as he was put and is).... He has that power to set status quo..... and we should respect his words. Shit rolls down hill; so, this is a no-brainer in the land of logic.
If vod as well, has reason to believe you should not be on DT because of the negatives in dealing with you or is certain you are not to be on DT as per Theymos; well... I see his intentions in giving you that flag.
Does it fit the verbatim use of the trust flags? not exactly how I personally interpret them as to be used.
Does it return things to the status quo? yes.
Do I agree with it based on these facts? sadly yes... because we lack a better system to readjust for now and i need to read further to want to change status quo.
Tec, I hope you understand my reasoning. I know you do good things, I have seen you do them. Don't let all of this phase you; its just water under a bridge. (shit, look at my recent neg trust flag; it was a retalitory flag, wherein mine was based on evidence of a dev likely to not follow through and be associated with a group whom ran off with investments and never produced. It happens to us all; If I ever make a bad call: Ill come eat some crow with you)
I'm gonna try and shut my mouth at this point as I don't wanna do any speculation.... that does nobody any good, so ill try and keep out of it for now, since I think I have seen logical reasoning.
I hope my words meant something.
*edit* TECSHARE; I see your response. This pretty much explains a lot since there is no burden of proof needed for theymos saying you should not be on DT for [reasons above], as well as others agreeing it was so and with the decision.
I will look into that link and chase it back as far as I can. Thank you.
Vod being excluded presently, and you not?
Interesting.
Also interesting that you mention a trust system abuse issue.
hmmm..... it will take me a while to browse your pre 2014 (that thread start) post history to put it into context. I speed read it and i see your point. Makes me wanna read back and put context to their reasoning.
I appreciate your patience with me.... and hope you understand my thought process as I am laying it out.
Its hard to sus things out sometimes; don't want to chance misleading msyself.
I appreciate you taking the time to review the issue. Unfortunately this type of dog piling and mobbing behavior has a distinct chilling effect against anyone speaking out against this type of behavior. That is in fact their intent targeting me, to make an example of people who criticize them in public so no one else will. This unfortunately includes when they act abusively and then no one wants to speak up about it for fear of being targeted themselves like this. This is their whole method of operation that allows this abuse to be perpetrated continually, and why I have been such a vocal opponent of trust system abuse, as I was one of the prototypical targets of it. |
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This would totally negate the point of locked threads. Taking features from legitimate users to maybe possibly prevent some small amount of abuse is only going to result in less features on the forum. If people are abusing locked threads make your own post or leave a trust rating.
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I will leave it to Vod to substantiate the claim from Theymos; *edit, thanks nut*
and the reason for your initial removal from DT is still unanswered.... I don't know that history.
I appreciate your answer, can you tell me if there is post history between you and these persons I could easily look up to verify it? around what dates should I look for those posts? (helps narrow it down when I go to look, unless you link me)
These are my thoughts. thus far..... need more information^^^
Thank you for the respect; it goes a long way.
Any claims of discourse in the form of PM's; well.... idk how to approach that as its in the realm of "manipulable" in my book, so it doesn't carry much weight of evidence unless an admin verifies it. (no way to be in cahoots with another party when its archived public, or admin verified private data)
Yeah I remember all the stuff going on in the turkish board bleeding into meta as well;
I did open my mouth in a few threads with some accusations based on merit abuse and gave my opinion, then later on some based on DT abuse, and several of the accused were Turkish members whom have banned alts.... yet were(are?) on DT using an alt when they should be excommunicated/expunged... I remember looking at them and on at least 4 of them: the evidence was solid against the accused.
so....
It was a sticky situation [as it is developing to be right about this sentence], and my main commenting in those threads was focused on how insane and misplaced many of the words from wolwoo were... he was straight up defending obvious ban evaders using this logic; "they are turkish that you accuse and everyone is attacking turkish", not acknowledging the truth of the facts presented by the accuser of x situation (there were over 6). To wolwoo the facts be damned, he wanted to be able to spread merit and be on DT.... and have us be ok with attacking people in a very extreme manner just for something as simple as questioning the motive of his actions/words in the slightest.
There were many things going on right at that same time....
*edit* thanks nutildah. Well taken. I carry his sentiment, backed up by my statements on wolwoo. Doesn't mean im against him, its just, not in a position of power with that loose of a "verbal grounds" so to speak. To each their own, but the greater part of society can't stand it from what I have seen over the years.
Still most curious as to how you lost DT the first time Tecshare? (were you ever on DT? i don't wanna assume anything at this point) It does add to the scope of all of this and is 100% necessary info.
I explained myself. Can you explain why you think the burden of proof should be on me to prove my innocence and not Vod and friends to prove my guilt? I don't find it productive to persue this line of questioning because it was intentionally designed to be something murky and unable to be substantiated in the hope that I would never be able to prove my innocence to anyone's satisfaction. They are making claims about my intent and character I have by design no way of proving. Requiring me to some how prove what happened in my mind is asinine. Just because they have a story in their head they want to spread in no way means there aren't tons of very legitimate reasons why I did what I did. I shouldn't have to defend myself from every concoction people lob at me based on nothing but creative writing skills and suspicion. As you can see the same group of people making the accusations there are here attempting to maintain their fictional narrative in a sad attempt at using the trust system as a tool of retribution for not agreeing with them. I was originally removed from the default trust (back when it was centralized) as detailed here. It was all based on a single rating I left for a user, who later turned out to be running a fraudulent charity. This is the event that caused many of the current posse of antagonists such as Vod to target me. I pointed out how the rules are arbitrarily enforced and how he does far more than I ever did on a regular basis as far as what they called abuse, he didn't like it, and began a years long effort to utilize the trust system to fight his petty vendettas. My reputability as far as trade was never once in question, this was all a targeted attack from day one. I would also remind you, that Theymos no longer excludes me, but he does in fact exclude Vod. If the fact Theymos didn't want me on default trust 6 years ago is relevant, then surely it is just as relevant that he doesn't want Vod on the default trust currently. |
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*snip* Vod 2019-09-09 Reference "This profile has fundamentally abused the trust system, trading positive trust with as many others as possible to get on Default Trust. See reference and the BPIP DT Change Log for examples. Do not trust this profile's trust of others by adding ~TECSHARE to your personal trust list." As you can see all of this happens within a few days of me again being put on the Default trust 1. Vod of course feels that he can personally dictate who can and can not be on default trust by manufacturing baseless accusations to cater the default trust to his liking, but of course I am manipulating it not him. Fine. If you want to abuse trust and throw away all your ethics just to get on DT; that is just your true nature. But fuck off telling people to clean up their lists when you don't do it yourself. Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.
Theymos has already stated the idiot TECHY has no place near DT. I believe his ultimate goal is to make the forum collapse by making it difficult to do business here. We either do it his way, or we don't get to do it at all. :/ How am I making it difficult to do business here Vod? I can tell you how you make it difficult to do business here. An interesting concept also considering you don't actually do any business here, it seems decidedly more of a problem for me if it is difficult to do business here. Projecting again Vod? ok, as an outside perspective: you showed the genesis; and retrospectively the neg trust, with its reference. I will be as pragmatic, kurt, and fair and impartial as I can. If you want me to give you the courtesy, do me the same and leave denigration at the door; stick to simple facts with references. You say it is a feedback loop; but here's the rub... when I investigate this; I want to ask one question: Is there a link to theymos stating Tech should not be on DT Vod? This would solidify the accusation of being substantially more than just plausible; and solidifies even more the need to have the below answered. TEC: A deep explanation of how you formed these specific links to seemingly random people to get back on DT... is interesting to say the least; and I am intrigued to have cleared up and explained in detail. This being if the above claim by Vod (an extremely trusted member) is true. Getting kicked off DT isn't a small thing, and it means a huge breech of trust. It does seem fishy from a purely outsider "never been in the middle of this" situation. I have to be fair given the facts I can see ¿comprende? I'm not here to pick sides, I am here to get to the bottom of all this drama. We have had debates before and I have a level of respect for you; I'm not here for debates or flinging of whatever. I'm trying to solve some obvious problems cause people feel the need to air their laundry in the front yard sometimes so might as well look for the air freshener. Now; I am assuming there was something substantial done in the past... which lead to you losing DT (either your action, or an accusation against you). The simple fact that you got back on DT from a negative position, by means of such random accounts.... Does not add up at all no matter how I try to think about it, so thus why I asked you the paragraph above. There was quite an effort put there to get on DT. I personally am curious as to why which the answered questions will give. You seem like a reasonable person, and act with respect. I have no reason not to reciprocate. First, I would like to say that it is not upon me to prove my innocence, it is upon an accuser to prove the validity of their accusations. This is a base standard of any system of law or justice. That said, if you review the original thread Vod bases his accusation on, you will see I made an effort to mutually resolve a conflict between members of the Turkish community and Timelord. This lead to several interactions with several of the members of the Turkish community, of which I gained respect for because of how they handled the response. I must assume they felt the same way and this is why they added me. I didn't do anything I wasn't supposed to and these accusations are nothing but a tall tale designed to make sure I wasn't allowed to be put back on the default trust instigated by people with very long time, publicly documented animus against me. In Vod's case his history of trust system abuse targeting me is well documented in this thread. |
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Are you guys still fighting behind this? Come on, y'all can forgive and forget.
I mean, Quickseller and Lauda had a dispute for years, and if they could come to terms with each other, you can too. And if you can't, you both can go your own ways, remove the negative ratings from each other(make it neutral at least), and ignore each other in-definitively. If y'all are grown enough to write proper English sentences with fancy words, y'all can also be a bigger person and let it go. ❄️
So you don't think leaving Vod a negative rating for doxing and threatening to report OGNasty to the IRS is justified? Some how it always seems the one who should just "let it go" are the ones who have legitimate grievances simply because no one wants to deal with it, not because it is what is right. I would also like to remind you that I had let his past abuse go, but it didn't matter, he just continued his antagonism anyway in spite of being rebuked for it by the community more than once. |
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3 1/2 years of trying to get rid of Trump was what it was all about.
I know that's what Trump said it was about, but it really wasn't. It was about Russian interference in the election. There were suspicious links between Trump campaign officials and Russian officials that were investigated as part of that, and the final report had a big section on all the ways Trump tried to stop or interfere with the investigation, but it actually was not 'all about trump'. You should read it. Just check out the introduction and Executive Summary of part 1 if you don't believe me. https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdfIt's what I'm saying, and what about two thirds the population believe. Half because they're for Trump and have seen this going on for 3 1/2 years, and 1/6 because they have been engineering this nonsense from the beginning, and publicly said so. It's all been right out in the open. Yeah, the media (from left to right) + Trump hyped the shit out of it for 3+ years. One side made it seem like Trump was just a Russian puppet and the other made it seem like Mueller had a team of angry democrats that would stop at nothing to end Trump presidency. If you read the report, or the Russian indictments, you'll see there was actually a ton of other stuff going on, and they were able to figure out a very impressive amount of info on a group of Russians that were using every trick in the book to cover their tracks. Trump just didn't want people to think Russia tried to help him get elected, even though they absolutely did, and he did a really good job of convincing millions of people to believe him. https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdfYes, of course now that your little shifest failed, everyone should share responsibility for the damage you and your party have done pursuing this fraud right? Uh, no. This one is all on you and your chosen party. You can shove that false equivalence right back from where you pulled it. |
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I doubt anyone qualified to be in the cabinet was volunteering in Iowa and IDP is a bunch of old white farmers. You are just ok with being an open classicist racist huh? Lets try to switch it around a bit... I doubt anyone qualified to be in the cabinet was volunteering in Iowa and IDP is a bunch of old black farmers. I dunno, sounds pretty bigoted to me. More hilarity: https://summit.news/2020/02/07/rachel-maddow-blames-4chan-for-shambles-in-iowa/ |
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Since the moderators have determined me defending myself from Vod's accusation in the thread about Nullius's trust system abuse is off topic, even though Vod's accusation is completely what it is based on, I guess I will just post my removed posts from there here since criticism of Vod's behavior always seems to be off topic even when it is very much on topic. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. How does Theymos stating it's best to forgive make you an imaginary doctor, idiot? Stop your trust abuse. Your jealousy has no place on DT.  Did I imagine you doxing OGNasty and threatening to call the IRS on him Vod? A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Did I imagine you doxing OGNasty and threatening to call the IRS on him Vod?
I have no idea what you imagine - people cannot read other people's minds. Theymos asks you to forgive and you decide that makes you a doctor? Idiot.  Did you or did you not dox OGNasty and claim to report him to the IRS? A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Frankly in spite of my low expectations for people in general, I am amazed how many here think this has any substance to it whatsoever when it is literally nothing more than an accusation.
If you think so low of us, try leading by example and removing your trust abuse. You are an idiot, not a doctor, fortune teller or mind reader. Your skill set is limited to repackaging garbage and delivering it to your local post office. :/ No antipathy here! None whatsoever. Is this " contributing to the community"? A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Just more accusations stacked on top of old unsubstantiated accusations. No one can show anything demonstrable to support their claims, only a long string of accusations from people with personal issues. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.msg53761336#msg53761336Lectures me about setting and example about "forgiveness" as he negative rates me. These two are having fun trying to reinforce each other's accusations without actually substantiating anything. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. He can't seem to say what I "lied" about either. Lots of people have asked for quotes but he just topic slides and makes more accusations as usual.
He said you lied about posting a private messages of a someone because wouldnt they wouldn't argue with you. He posted a reference link directly in the feed back:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148016.msg51275676#msg51275676 I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. and then I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself. So it appears you said you didn't post the pm because he ignored you. And then you said if he was willing to have a conversation you wouldn't have posted it. Twitchy Seal as usual has to resort to selectively editing my quotes to try to cast aspersions and serve his political motives by engaging in shit slinging over forum issues. Notice his "quotes" aren't live. I wonder why that is, perhaps he doesn't want you to read what I ACTUALLY said, instead of his selectively edited interpretations of what he thinks I meant. I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him.
I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself.
Watch yourself peeps...  Nice selective editing. Yeah pay no attention to the IRS kicking in your door, what is important is I posted a personal message in public! EDIT FOR REFERENCE: The actual post so people can read what was actually said since Vod is using the trust system as his personal play toy for retribution again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51187013#msg51187013Made no lie, and there was no damage done to Hhampuz. This even wasn't a problem for anyone, but Vod finds it an opportunity to make an excuse to get his retribution for daring to tag him for the clearly wrong act of doxing OGNasty which is well documented and not under dispute. His ratings against me are simply transparent retribution and an attempt to extort me into removing that rating. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. I remember reading the post, it was completly forgotten when I written the last reply.
Can't get to make my mind up of what ognasty did, a ponzi, however i still hope the seat users are fine, I has a friend that has the collection and seeing the btc raise is a quite nice feature i loved since i first got to see them.
Can't say i know what techy lied about but man this is a long thread.
Trust abuse side goes for quite a lot of users, I spent a good while negative rating shit and I done quite a few mistaken ratings i was needed to remove problem is when you such a big group close minded that because of proudness and ego you keep your shit and refuse to change your mind or inform yourself a bit better.
I has a while wondering if insults are bannable.
He can't seem to say what I "lied" about either. Lots of people have asked for quotes but he just topic slides and makes more accusations as usual. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. You are using all of the force and trust of the community as a weapon
I hope you understand the community gave you the same trust. You showed you could not be trusted. The same community that trusts me does not trust you. Either the trust system maintains base standards for everyone, or all it will be is a joke used to abuse its most long standing and trusted members.
Geez Techy, how much more standardized could your trust and my trust be? Identical ratings, both equally factual. If my trust is abusive, then you were abusive first. So when did I dox OGNasty and threaten to report him to the IRS, since both ratings are equivalent? The rating I left for you is based on publicly observable documented fact that you doxed and threatened another user. Your rating is childish refractory retaliation for leaving that rating and a pathetic and transparent attempt at extorting me into removing it. None of your accusations have any basis in fact. My reason for leaving the rating for you is publicly provable as true. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. You are using all of the force and trust of the community as a weapon
I hope you understand the community gave you the same trust. You showed you could not be trusted. The same community that trusts me does not trust you. Either the trust system maintains base standards for everyone, or all it will be is a joke used to abuse its most long standing and trusted members.
Geez Techy, how much more standardized could your trust and my trust be? Identical ratings, both equally factual. If my trust is abusive, then you were abusive first. For now, as a priority, I am replying at some length to make it unequivocally clear to you, Vod, that (1) I refrain from replying to TECSHARE’s drivel because it is drivel, not for any lack of confidence in tags that, as you will note, I am still firmly supporting; and, (2) I am unimpressed at TECSHARE’s attempt to coerce your supporters. Some of the names on his hate-list look mighty tough to me. I doubt that they will throw you under the bus to appease TECSHARE, of all creatures (!); and if they do, I hope that others will step up to support you.*
OK bud - when Techy claims to win because you won't reply, I'll point users to this information. I wish I had your ability to ignore unethical idiots. :/ So when did I dox OGNasty and threaten to report him to the IRS, since both ratings are equivalent?
Sorry, my tolerance does not extend to this level of idiocy. Read the reference link and you'll see what I posted is accurate and true. You are the one that claimed your rating for me was equal to the rating I left for you. When did I dox people and threaten to report them to the IRS? That was all you Vod, the whole forum saw it. It is a fact. If I edited my rating comment to remove the reference to your very apparent mental disorder would you then consider that a valid negative rating, or do you just get to use the trust system as your tool to punish people and never ever get held accountable under it? It seems like that is what you want, you get to use the trust system to punish people for not agreeing with you and then never be held to any of the standards you apply to others on a daily basis. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Anyone else confused by my substantiation of Techy's trust? Let me know.
Considering you have substantiated zero of your claims, that would be impossible. Simply repeating that you have substantiated your claims is not substantiation of your accusations. Why would anyone get the impression mods are bias against them when they aren't even allowed to defend themselves from accusations in a thread they created themselves to discuss it? |
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Thread summary: nullius fell into the trap of backing Vod's claims because he is too green to know not to trust anything Vod says about reputational issues at face value without thoroughly fact checking them because of how well known Vod is for making one false statement after another and completely refusing to prove them.. Case in point.. The resources of this forum may be insufficient to fully organize the trust abuse by Techy. A wiki might work better. That's how I'm organizing the *massive* amount of illegal activities by the person who stole 500 bitcoin cash from this community.
nullius merited this absolute false claim by Vod.. Lol soooo foolish.. Soo smart but yet merits misinformation and goes on this entire tirade of supporting the source of so much similar misinformation left and right.. Doesn't have the experience to recognize BS when he sees it.. Vod's negative rating is obvious retaliation for TS's absolutely correct rating on Vod for doxing and IRS snitching.. Hard to believe nullius supports an IRS snitch of all things.. Supports hiding your wealth from governments on one hand and on the other hand supports someone that reports others to the government IRS and SEC.. How comical.. That pretty much sums it up. I keep trying to explain how his rating is based on Vod's frivolous fake rating, but the moderators have deleted about a dozen posts relating to this so far. I am not sure how I am expected to be able to defend myself if I literally can't even address the accusations against me that it is based on. Of course the person spamming reports of my posts knows this I am sure and would prefer I was unable to point out the lack of evidence for any of these claims, and the moderators are all too willing to help them cover it up. |
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I don't think it is unreasonable to assume it was him.
I don't think that assumption would be unreasonable either, until he tells you explicitly denies it. Now for your assumption to be true, FH would have to be a liar. If you think he's a liar, fine. But to say "I don't care what he did or says", demonstrates that you don't care whether or not your accusations are true or false. You are the one making the accusation, the burden of proof is on you. To be more specific, I don't care what you say. What he says is clearly relevant. I never claimed to prove anything. I am making a public log of moderator actions against my posts in the section. None of this changes the fact that only he and Theymos know for sure what happened. Your actions speak louder than words, and they support what you said the first time. Your public log of moderator actions has only one moderators name on it. The mod has denied being responsible for multiple entries, you said you didn't care what he said, you said you wouldn't edit it. I think he just overlooked the possibility that you were responding to my post in a thread I didn't post in.
Are you accusing him of lying about deleting your post? Seems unlikely to me, but this isn't the first time he has explicitly told you that he didn't delete a post from your "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" thread, and you seem to just not care.
If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not. I don't care what he did or says. Are you approaching a point any time soon or simply finding an excuse to repeat yourself endlessly in the hopes that if you repeat yourself enough times people will believe your claims.? |
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I don't think it is unreasonable to assume it was him.
I don't think that assumption would be unreasonable either, until he tells you explicitly denies it. Now for your assumption to be true, FH would have to be a liar. If you think he's a liar, fine. But to say "I don't care what he did or says", demonstrates that you don't care whether or not your accusations are true or false. You are the one making the accusation, the burden of proof is on you. To be more specific, I don't care what you say. What he says is clearly relevant. I never claimed to prove anything. I am making a public log of moderator actions against my posts in the section. None of this changes the fact that only he and Theymos know for sure what happened. |
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Here we see the original accusation Vod made, which Nutilduh also very thirsty to settle vendettas invents a seemingly plausible narrative based on his accusation, then Vod uses the accusation based on his accusation, to make yet another accusation, claiming it is based on those first accusations. Of course nothing actually substantiated anywhere. This is textbook information laundering. Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT. He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust. It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now. ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.
@ABiNut, no one will blame you if you tell the hypocrite TECHSHARE to fuck off. He really should look at his abusive feedback before he comments on others. If TECHY threatens to distrust if you don't do as he demands, myself and many others will counter his baseless accusation. Vod 2019-09-09 Reference "This profile has fundamentally abused the trust system, trading positive trust with as many others as possible to get on Default Trust. See reference and the BPIP DT Change Log for examples. Do not trust this profile's trust of others by adding ~TECSHARE to your personal trust list." As you can see all of this happens within a few days of me again being put on the Default trust 1. Vod of course feels that he can personally dictate who can and can not be on default trust by manufacturing baseless accusations to cater the default trust to his liking, but of course I am manipulating it not him. Fine. If you want to abuse trust and throw away all your ethics just to get on DT; that is just your true nature. But fuck off telling people to clean up their lists when you don't do it yourself. Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.
Theymos has already stated the idiot TECHY has no place near DT. I believe his ultimate goal is to make the forum collapse by making it difficult to do business here. We either do it his way, or we don't get to do it at all. :/ How am I making it difficult to do business here Vod? I can tell you how you make it difficult to do business here. An interesting concept also considering you don't actually do any business here, it seems decidedly more of a problem for me if it is difficult to do business here. Projecting again Vod? |
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You really think it's ok to blame FH for deleting posts he didn't delete, and use them of evidence that he is an unfair moderator? I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts
Really? The accusation isn't against 'moderators', it's against FH. You sure you don't care? You have no way of knowing for sure what happened any more than I do. You are making conclusions based on your speculation and confirmation bias. I will not comply with any of these demands. You feel free to make your own accusations. My thread will remain, unedited. My conclusions: - You created the thread "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" - FH denied deleting multiple posts that you added to the thread. - You said "I don't care what he [FH] did or says" What speculation? The parts where you conclude what I think, what I believe, and what I intend. Flying Hellfish can say he shits gold. That doesn't make it a fact. The section is under his moderation. If no one wants to take responsibility fine. Until that time, I don't think it is unreasonable to assume it was him in spite of your many highly synthesized protestations. |
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You really think it's ok to blame FH for deleting posts he didn't delete, and use them of evidence that he is an unfair moderator? I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts
Really? The accusation isn't against 'moderators', it's against FH. You sure you don't care? You have no way of knowing for sure what happened any more than I do. You are making conclusions based on your speculation and confirmation bias. I will not comply with any of these demands. You feel free to make your own accusations. My thread will remain, unedited. |
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I think he just overlooked the possibility that you were responding to my post in a thread I didn't post in.
Are you accusing him of lying about deleting your post? Seems unlikely to me, but this isn't the first time he has explicitly told you that he didn't delete a post from your "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" thread, and you seem to just not care.
If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not. I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts The ethical thing to do would be to change the title of the thread to "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: BITCOINTALK - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" or ""REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: MODS - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" or something like that instead of singling out a specific moderator who has denied deleting multiple posts you're accusing him of deleting. Or accuse him of lying. Thanks for the lecture in ethics. No. |
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