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2041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Slow PrimeCoin mining on Amazon EC2 Instances? on: July 09, 2013, 10:26:31 PM
It's not clear yet whether paying those hourly prices to mine the coins is even profitable.
2042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: - XPM (PrimeCoin) / LTC Google Docs. Exchange. - on: July 09, 2013, 09:03:01 PM
Buying at 0.04 LTC per XPM. So 25 XPM per 1LTC

I will take 250 XPM

Move that up to 5 XPM per LTC and I'll give you 35 of them.

Too risky for me. YAC was the last CPU mineable coin and when it hit the bter the first exchange to take it, the price immediately traded lower than what it was trading for on here and carried on nosediving.

It's not clear yet what the market value is...
2043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: - XPM (PrimeCoin) / LTC Google Docs. Exchange. - on: July 09, 2013, 08:56:21 PM
Buying at 0.04 LTC per XPM. So 25 XPM per 1LTC

I will take 250 XPM. I have completed dozens of trades on the forum, some of them 10 or 20BTC worth at a time.
2044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: - XPM (PrimeCoin) / LTC Google Docs. Exchange. - on: July 09, 2013, 08:02:43 AM
Someone put up a better google docs please. Preferably run by someone who wasn't trolling the XPM release when it launched (the OP).
2045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 10:26:04 PM
Buying PrimeCoin, PM me with your offers.

Wait, aren't you the one that called primecoin "another thread cluttering coin" at the beginning of this thread?

Yup. He is. Everybody get your pitchforks out!!
2046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 06:32:23 PM
What would be the best pool software to build a mining pool for this coin?

dont you need a miner before you can point a miner to a pool???

Good point  Cheesy
2047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 06:20:09 PM
What would be the best pool software to build a mining pool for this coin?
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
I have a very strong academic mathematics background. 'scientific value' is a subjective statement. Most mathematicians would regard anything new or original as advancing mathematics. Do you think patterns in integers have scientific value? Depends on the pattern to an extent and if there are any clear consequences but you'll get varied answers to that question. Some mathematicians and especially scientists such as physicists are snobbish and only regard maths that has a 'real world' application as being useful. It's not clear to me whether this project is finding new prime chain sequences within the known prime numbers or actually trying to determine new, unknown prime numbers using the prime chains as a proof of work. Either way, it has value since it will add new data which will either disprove conjectures or strengthen the likelihood of them being true... plus the analysis of the discovered data could in theory lead to new conjectures (note I know next to nothing about these chains and how much data of them is out there, I'm just writing this reply of the top of my head).

You can also look at this another way. This project could provide a financial incentive for individuals to develop more optimised GPU prime finding algorithms, the theory of which could lead to a greater understanding of prime number distribution e.g. a new sieve or similar construct.

Sunny, can you please clarify whether this project is finding new prime chain sequences within the known prime numbers or actually trying to determine new, unknown prime numbers using the prime chains as a proof of work.

Of course these primes are all 'new'. Finding 'new' primes is not the point, and primes are super-abundant there is no database can store them, it's always trivial to find one not stored in any database.

The point of GIMP is to find the largest known (Mersenne) prime, while the point of primecoin is to find longest chain of reasonable size limit (256 bits to 2000 bits as currently designed). Which one of the two projects is more useful is highly debatable actually. Mersenne has a very long history of study, its infinite existence is not known and they are scarce (only about 50 of them known). While for prime chains, as pointed out by my design paper, these prime chains are connected to the distribution of primes, their infinite existence and distribution is among the top wonders of arithmetic, you know how much mathematician value twin prime conjecture right? At right now I think some mathematicians consider the distribution of these longer chains hopelessly untouchable, and maybe will stay another millenium  Wink  

Sure. I wasn't arguing against any of the points you just made Smiley I speak as someone who was at research level in the 'pure' maths field and wanted to provide some insight into the value of this project. I hope you haven't taken the tone of my post the wrong way, I think this is a fantastic achievement and you've made a small mark in history. If I was you I would consider stripping your shroud of anonymity to claim more credit.
2049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
I was wondering if the prime95 client can be used for pool mining

This is not doing Mersenne prime discovery like prime95, so no.

I'm not convinced there's really any scientific value being created here, but maybe a scientist will step forward with something... The article that was posted about it talked about maybe prime factorization optimizations could be discovered, but that claim seems dubious.

I have a very strong academic mathematics background. 'scientific value' is a subjective statement. Most mathematicians would regard anything new or original as advancing mathematics. Do you think patterns in integers have scientific value? Depends on the pattern to an extent and if there are any clear consequences but you'll get varied answers to that question. Some mathematicians and especially scientists such as physicists are snobbish and only regard maths that has a 'real world' application as being useful. It's not clear to me whether this project is finding new prime chain sequences within the known prime numbers or actually trying to determine new, unknown prime numbers using the prime chains as a proof of work. Either way, it has value since it will add new data which will either disprove conjectures or strengthen the likelihood of them being true... plus the analysis of the discovered data could in theory lead to new conjectures (note I know next to nothing about these chains and how much data of them is out there, I'm just writing this reply of the top of my head).

You can also look at this another way. This project could provide a financial incentive for individuals to develop more optimised GPU prime finding algorithms, the theory of which could lead to a greater understanding of prime number distribution e.g. a new sieve or similar construct.

Sunny, can you please clarify whether this project is finding new prime chain sequences within the known prime numbers or actually trying to determine new, unknown prime numbers using the prime chains as a proof of work.
2050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Koolio's Trolling and Harrassment on Btc-e, got to stop / POLL on: July 08, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
Strange how topics like these keep popping up about Koolio but nothing against the other chat mods like simply_fun. I'll let you all draw your own conclusions.
2051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Market Appeal Coin - SantaCoin on: July 08, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
OP hasn't heard of China coin.
2052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 07, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
I think we can safely say this was a fair launch with a high starting difficulty and no insta-mine.
2053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Prerelease Announcement - Introducing Prime Proof-of-Work on: July 07, 2013, 07:44:36 PM
Got my first 20 XMP  Smiley
2054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Prerelease Announcement - Introducing Prime Proof-of-Work on: July 07, 2013, 07:22:39 PM
Money supply just reached 999XPM
2055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Prerelease Announcement - Introducing Prime Proof-of-Work on: July 07, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
According to the client there's been 630 coins mined since launch so far
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 07, 2013, 06:51:59 PM
Has anyone actually received mined coins yet? Confused...
2057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 07, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
Mining this on a few machines and received nothing since I started so far...

Looks to be mining but just not getting any coins Sad
2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 07, 2013, 06:26:24 PM
Is this intentional? This way everyone can download the client and get it running so that the first few people who download it don't have a massive advantage?

Sounds good to me. I just hope it starts before I have to go to bed lol.
2059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 07, 2013, 06:08:31 PM
'installer integrity check' failed when I try to install the windows executable
2060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie the only unique and interesting alt-coin out of all these sh*tcoins on: July 07, 2013, 10:22:34 AM
Read the forum to learn about the premine. They call it preallocation.
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