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2081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 27, 2022, 09:15:09 PM

What can you say about LA Tenorio's last play guys? Cheesy

He is known to be a buzzer-beater guy and truly aware of how much time is left. Downed by 3, 7 seconds remaining, no timeout, inbound from the other courtside, still, he really push for a 2-point play. It needs at least 4-5 seconds to bring down the ball and what if there's a defense, it will extend the time of handling.

The bottom line is you can't expect another ball possession that's why you have to go for the 3 points to seal the win. Cheesy

He wasted the opportunity to take the game 3 but of course its not his fault because they are team and many players are also off especially with Brownlee on missing his free throws. I can’t say they throw the game since they are Ginebra, may NLEX just really want to win the game and extend their hope for game 4.

We are not talking about the missing FTs of Brownlee, it was the last play that was supposed to be a 3 point play. LA seemed to be out of this world, or was it intentional to extend the series? Again, it might make people speculate that they are trying to rig the game, LA is a veteran, so he probably know the business.

I'm also curious why LA did not gave the ball to Brownlee for the last shot.
2082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 27, 2022, 01:16:11 PM
^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.

So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.

And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.

As far as I can see, even Canelo and GGG will lose their upcoming fight, the impact and excitement is still there when they faced for a third time. It's a fight that everyone anticipated to happen for a long. To settle everything and it seems it's now likely happening, a third match is necessary to negotiate.

Just seems concerned to GGG here how he can deal with the prime Canelo if he will lose to Murata that is not even in his league.

About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.

If both of them will be defeated in their respective matches before the trilogy then the excitement and interesting factor will remain and the fight will surely be pursued. However, if GGG will be lost to Murata while Canelo have won his fight against Bivol then I think there's not much to expect for the trilogy as it would clearly state that the trilogy will be in Canelo's favor but if the opposite happened then it would certainly generate so much hype and a trilogy will so much interesting and maybe the split would be even.

It's possible but unlikely to happen, both GGG and Canelo are heavy favorites on their respective match, if there's an upset, it cannot be on both fights. So, for us to really see the fight, both of them have to win the fight for them to create some hype and ensure a huge amount of money in the trilogy.

Let that be the final fight just to give the fans on a long requested trilogy.
2083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: March 27, 2022, 12:30:55 PM

Moving to back to this upcoming fight, Spence may showcase again his skills to climb up and call for Crawford for his next fight.
His fight with Porter was quite not so impressive because he only won via split decision.
If he would do the same in this fight, I'm afraid, we might see a surprise because both boxers are champion and Ugas are good using his range.


Another interesting fight after this, and another winner takes all and grabs all the belts in this division.
He does not need to call on Crawford because Crawford has been calling him already, Spence just agree to the fight and this big fight will be settled.
2084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 27, 2022, 11:08:08 AM
Congratulations to both of you @bisdak40 and @Japinat, that was a good start of the evening, hope you guys will get the 2nd game so you'll end up with more winnings. Looks like the game is close now, Ginebra started strong but NLEX is keeping up now.
2085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: March 27, 2022, 09:57:12 AM
<=>although I'm not sure what is the initial handicap for this match.

The line was -17 for the Nuggets based on https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nuggets-vs-thunder-odds-line-2022-nba-picks-march-26-predictions-from-proven-computer-model/.. Therefore OKC covered the handicap, both the pre-game and the live betting.

2086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 27, 2022, 09:21:02 AM
Fckin Bucks destroy again m parlay for the 3rd time I include them on my parlay list.  Cheesy I'm just laughing to myself for continuing betting with them while I always ended up wasting my parlay multiple times just because my greediness always kicks in to add bucks to have a small boost on parlay. Anyways I still have some good single bet wins in Brooklyn and Nuggets this Sunday so I'm still in profit but I really feel regretful on my decision for a chance to have a huge profit this Sunday bets. Happy Sunday Win guys!

Sorry man, sometimes sh*t happens.

Bucks destroyed by Memphis, that was too much. I mean, I understand them to lose to Memphis, but not that big loss.
What happened to this team? They are now complete (except for holiday), but they can't win against a Morant less Memphis.
2087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: March 27, 2022, 08:49:21 AM
The series between Magnolia and Meralco now requires a deep analysis before placing a bet lol.

Exactly  Grin.

With Abueva, not 100 percent healthy and Bolts having found a way to stop/minimize the output of Harris, this could be a very close series with games won by a slight margin.

The controversy with that shot clock violation which the ref has not called has made the rounds in social media but I think even if the ref has called that one, still Magnolia will lose that game because they were down by 5 points with less than 24 seconds to go. FG percentage for the Hotshots was so low on that ball, the real reason why they lose that one, not that uncalled shot clock violation.

Again, the game is still very close. We are in game 2 now and the 1st half will be ended in less than 2 minutes.

I was looking at the smart live streaming but could not find the game, so for now I'm just looking at the official website.
https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Meralco has a chance to win this game, Paul only made 2 points so far and Harris had 8 points only.
2088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 26, 2022, 11:19:10 AM
nice pick @morvillz7z, you won your bet.



@agustina2, not a good bet for the Warriors, after an impressive win on Heat, they lost to the Hawks.
Green only made 4 points, poor production from him.
2089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: March 26, 2022, 10:45:57 AM
After five months of the poll, nobody believes that Murata can beat Golovkin

GGG   - 26 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 26

Murata is a total underdog and everybody believes that at 40 Golovkin is still in the prime of his career which is true based on his last fight I'm sure Golovkin would love to come out in this fight in great fashion to impress Canelo and the boxing community that the GGG - Canelo fight still deserves the hype.

Wow, that's a 100% rate for GGG. Can't believe there's no one who at least believes he would win while some of the posters are thinking that Murata should not be underestimated in this fight as he is also a champ. So what would happen now? if GGG would lose then we all lose our bets as well?
2090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 on: March 24, 2022, 01:54:45 PM
I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.
That's a huge upset if Tagoe would beat Garcia, and since Garcia has some kind of mental problem, a possible loss might make his problem gets bigger and could end his career. Sorry, my imagination is very negative, but I'm just thinking of a possible scenario here.
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2092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: March 22, 2022, 07:06:06 PM
^^ But GGG should win against Murata to keep the hype alive on the possibility of a trilogy. If he lost this fight then perhaps fans will likely say that this is going to be a mismatch in favor of Canelo because GGG is old as Murata beat him. So it's better for both of them to win against their opponent, setup one of the biggest fight this year in September.

That's what the fans wanted to see, just before he finally conclude his career in boxing, he just need to fight Canelo and get down in the boxing industry with pride no matter what the result might be. If he somehow wins that fight, then that would be an excellent way to wrap up his career and he would not be forgotten in the world of boxing. He just needs to finish Murata as easily as possible so that they will gonna have a high chance to fight again.

Right, for me GGG has cemented his legacy already at 160 lbs. Although there is just one blemishes and that is Canelo. The first 2 fight was really very close that it can go either way.

But if they will set up a 3rd fight and if ever GGG will win that fight then maybe their could be arguments for him to be the best middleweight of this era. So let him do his job against Murata first and not snubbed him before he can seek Alvarez.

There's just one way to find out about it and definitely the trilogy will give a clear answer on which of them really deserved the win, and the rumors and critics will shut up for good after then. Yes, I agree with you. We should let GGG process and focus in his fight against Murata first before giving some speculation with him and Canelo.
2093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: March 22, 2022, 06:00:45 PM
Tyson was good player on this two players.Tyson move was always unique compared to Logan Paul.I had read the thread carefully.Nearly 7/8 was supported Tyson.Tyson match to strong arm hand was always unique one.The game with the less power person will be short run game.Paul game was good with the arm power equal to him and not to the player like Tyson.

We can already expect that almost all people who knew Mike Tyson will side on him, besides he's the legendary Iron Mike and against the amateur boxer named Logan Paul will really be a chicken and easy fight against the legendary. I mean look at the man now, even he's quite older than Logan we can still say that he will win on this one.

Guys, this fight isn't going to happen, so we'll never know who's stronger. So there's no point in guessing. In any case, more people will vote for Mike Tyson as his fans are in every corner of the globe and his sporting career will be set as an example for many years to come in boxing schools.

I beg to disagree, Mike Tyson has been favored by a lot of people not just because they are his fans but they also literally know that Logan Paul can't possibly defeat the living legend here and yes there is exactly no point in guessing because we can literally tell who's side will win and that would be Mike Tyson.

But yeah, sadly this fight is just a hype.
2094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: March 22, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
Either way as of now, the fight will happen on its scheduled date but the details is not yet fixed if this fight will be sanctioned or not.
Both camps should know the decision if this will be sanctioned or not because their preparation will only be wasted, and it's just wasting money. When they are in training, they give their effort to train hard, and not only that, they also spend money to pay for the venue and the people who work for the respective fighters.

Both camps now are so silent and quite like they are not that worried about the sanctioning of this fight and my personal opinions are that they already know that the fight will proceed as planned date but it's just maybe they are advised to stay silent for now by the bodies because the issues are still hot. They are just finding that right time when to say it because none of them can afford to cancel the fight now.
2095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 22, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
I like the Wolves getting 2 points on the road tonight against the mavs.  And gimme Cleveland at home -5 against the Lakers.  Pretty much taking whoever is playing the Lakers for the rest of the year.  Think their fight is done.

I couldn't agree more on the Lakers, I guess as much, they are done! They're already getting domnated by the Cavs early into the but I missed betting on that.

I'll be taking the Chicago Bulls -3.5 at against Toronto Raptors.


The Lakers have managed to steal the win from the Cavs in the late game despite getting buried huge gap in the 1st half (131-120), but I haven't bet on this game because both teams are still inconsistent especially the Lakers. I guess their rotation now are working as they're also using that way back 2020 when they've won the championship. I just thought this time they'd give Howard more minutes that he deserved.
2096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: March 22, 2022, 12:52:57 PM
They know what to do already, it's so stupid if they will do the same mistake twice and just let the belt be taken by Butler. I think Casimero will work harder here, he wants to have a big fight, he should take this fight seriously and deliver a big win.
I think we can all understand that people can get sick all of a sudden and this is why the fight got delayed, however while this happening once can be attributed to chance if it happened a second time then it would be impossible to not think that there was some negligence on Casimero's camp or we could even speculate that there was something else going on and someone was trying to boycott the fight, so lets us hope this does not happen again and we can finally see Casimero fighting against Butler.
I agree – the uncertainty is biggest odd in sports. It can kill the moral and can put the player in difficult situation. Mental health is a real challenge even once admits it or not. I believe Casimero and Butler are great players and what the fans want is some amazing entertainment when there is so much odd news coming from around the world . Let’s hope that this fight finally happens.
There's a possibility that this covid situation would down to endemic.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/18/heres-how-covid-19-transitions-from-a-pandemic-to-endemic.html
Also, we have that reason of delay on this fight which it isnt attached to covid but rather on health issue thats why better to hope for all possible things to be avoided so that we wont really be having any other delay.

Yes, there's a possibility about that but let's just hope for the bright side that Covid will be shut down for good this year if they can.

Health issues and injuries are the #1 enemy not just in boxers but for most athletes in different sports as well and sometimes it's inevitable. But usually these injuries and health issues are just labeled as minor problems because their body are built different and often times these issues won't be long. Let's just hope that there won't be any major issues so that they can fight on the said schedule.
2097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: March 21, 2022, 05:33:01 PM
People keep talking about how Mike is 55 years old but lets not forget that his pretty much decent shape.  He is still capable to rip your soul out Grin The fact that Logan thinks that he can defeat Tyson shows how much this guy is delusional. Mike tyson will definitely break his jaws in one punch.  Grin This is the equivalent of mouse thinking that he will win against the lion.


I couldn't agree more, Iron Mike is still a living legend and even at his age now we can still see that he's still capable on demolishing his opponents if he chose to especially if his opponents are the likes of Logan Paul.

But on Logan Paul's side, I think we already know what he thinks and what is he chasing. Truth is that Logan Paul is only fighting Iron Mike for the sake of money just like what he did when he fought with Mayweather and it's not that because he seriously thinks that he can defeat Mike, because that would be impossible to happen. Speaking of money, Logan will surely get paid and earn huge amount of money than he could have in vlogging and do podcasting, that is if this fight will happen.
2098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 21, 2022, 04:47:02 PM

Unfortunately I couldn't bet on that game and I had in mind that the Celtics would win this game.

The Boston team showed that they are still a dangerous team, even playing away from home, and also from their roster being young.
Let's see if the Celtics can maintain this performance in the future.


Yes Very dangerous indeed, I am looking at the players of the Boston Celtics right now Especially Jaylen Green, and Jayson Tatum they are exploding against the Nuggets when seeing both team injuries I think the Boston Celtics are almost in their 100% form so they surely have a huge advantage other the Nuggets,

And here is tomorrow's game picks highlighted in green are my picks

Cleveland Cavaliers VS Los Angeles Lakers

The stake odds for this game is 1.41 for the Cavaliers while 3.00 for the Lakers, Jarrett Allen, Rajon Rondo, and Dean Wade can not play for the Cavaliers, While Anthony Davis, Kendrick Nunn, can not play for the Lakers while Wayne Ellington, Talen Horton-Tucker, Wenyen Gabriel and LeBron James is questionable if they can play, it seems Lebron James has thrown the towel, talking that they will not reach greater heights this season, and because of that I will try my luck on the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Brooklyn Nets VS Utah Jazz

The Stake odds for this game is 2.00 for the Nets while 1.85 for the Jazz pretty much the odds are in the middle and it indicates that the game was only half of an hour, Kyrie Irving, Ben Simmons, and LaMarcus Aldridge can not play for the Nets, while Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic, Danuel House Jr., Trent Forrest, and Udoka Azubuike is questionable if they can play but I think they can surely play and because of that I will go with the favorite and that is Brooklyn Nets but for me, I will try my luck with the Utah Jazz

Dallas Mavericks VS Minnesota Timberwoles

The stake odds are 1.68 for the Mavericks and 2.25 for the Timberwolves Tim Hardaway Jr., and Theo Pinson can not play for the Mavericks, while Udoka Azubuike, Trent Forrest, Danuel House Jr., Bojan Bogdanovic, and Mike Conley can not play for the Jazz, In my opinion, I will surely think that Timberwolves is keeping up fast and getting scores that can surely help the team and I think Ja Morant is getting used to the popularity and attention game to him, so I will go with the Timberwolves.

Sorry, I will go against the Nets this time. Jazz +1 has been in good synch and dominating the league for quite a while now that is why they're on a winning streak now and the Nets will surely struggle on home without Irving but this game will be a tough one.

But I will follow your 3rd pick though, Timberwolves +3 vs Mavericks and I'll add Hornets -5.5
2099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: March 21, 2022, 03:36:39 PM
... for the time being he should really watch his diet so that his viral gastritis won't become an obstacle in his career.

In the latest interview of Casimero, it was said that he is already 80% prepared so far, therefore I expect that he has no health problem anymore and all he is doing now is just training hard to maintain his good stamina and improve his skills as a boxer.

That's good! 80% is already a lot specially in his body condition right now and about his health, I also don't think that there's something that we should worry about because his team have already covered that area well enough and must not forget that he have the best conditioning coach.

Few days ago, I saw a video about Casimero doing some trainings and seems that he's already fit enough and there's really no sign that he isn't already well prepared. Here's the vid, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6-HKZmwYag
2100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: March 21, 2022, 02:28:58 PM
Yup, I think it doesn't mean a thing, it happen years ago so obviously there's a lot going after that fateful day. Murata become a champion, GGG remain on top of the 160 lbs division.

What's important is the fight at hand right now, GGG can't base any on those sparring, but the experience might be there and Murata will proved that he has better himself after that.

Yeah, that sparring session is history now on the two of them but the experience could help them on how to prepare for this upcoming fight as they now have a glimpse of each one of them on how they move because even though they have videos on their respective fight, an actual sparring/fight is different.

One thing I don't like with the proposed GGG vs Canelo trilogy is that they are overlooking things. Canelo and GGG both have dangerous fights ahead and either one of them could lose and might derail/cancel the trilogy which for me is a likely possibility.

That's right! Spar is really different from just watching your opponent in his recent fights and that particular short sparring could help the both of them about this upcoming fight, each one of them already have the idea on how to counter its punches because they already have a history first-hand and not by just watching some videos.

Is GGG involved in that deal? From what I have understand so far about that specific deal is that only Canelo is needed and obligated to win his upcoming fight, GGG on the other hand haven't had that contract written that he also should win against Murata for him to participate the said trilogy. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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