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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: April 18, 2022, 03:23:50 PM

In the Nets-Celtics game, I was convinced the Nets would beat Boston, but that didn't happen... by the way, Kyrie Irving had a phenomenal performance in that game.

Yeah he had, because he made 39 points from 12/20 shooting or 60% shooting percentage against the Celtics, you can clearly see that no defense can stop him, unfortunately, he was also the reason why they lose because he did not guard Tatum very well who did the game-winning shot.
One of Irving's main qualities is his performance in the playoffs games... in most games he always helped the team when requested, even when he was playing for the Cavaliers he already had this characteristic!!

Aside from the fact that Irving's presence is good for the team because he's quite experienced on the playing the playoffs, his skillset is very hard to deny and that he is indeed really hard to guard. Better pray that he let down his guard or he's having a bad night because if not, he will always going to make that big points for the team.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 18, 2022, 12:36:49 PM
Spence said that "we all know who I am coming next and it's what the people want" and then he mentioned that he is coming for Crawford. We will see some update soon regarding about their fight.

He should keep his words Crawford also wanted him badly, these two should have fought last year, there are so many accusations and excuses in both camps, Crawford makes it appear that Spence doesn't want to fight him and so is Spence if this year if there is no final contract signing, then these two boxers really don't want to settle things in the ring and they are all just talks.
Spence have his own excuse because last year he was preparing and supposed to fight Manny Pacquaio but an unexpected injury happen in the middle of his training, he got an eye injury (I forgot what was the specific term) that's why he needed some long rest after that as his doctors warns him that he could lose his eye if he pursue the fight again.

The important thing is that this time the Spence vs Crawford fight is slowly turning into reality as both of them have already spoke about it, well hopefully this time around it will happen with no issues and excuses about this and that.
1883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 18, 2022, 11:29:05 AM
I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .

This is my personal take. During Donaire's first fight with Naoya, he had more chances of winning. That was an opportunity which was more reachable than their rematch in the coming months. In fact, Donaire showed to the world that Naoya is not the monster that everybody is afraid of. He even almost knocked him down if I can still remember it right. But I guess from their first match and their second one, Donaire must be growing a little slower and weaker.

Donaire's career is not over yet and I firmly believe on his skill set that he still have what it takes to defeat Naoya Inoue, not because I'm his fan but because I'm keeping track of his fights since he was defeated by Inoue by a unanimous decision. I would agree that he doesn't stand a chance or somehow his chance is lesser now if Donaire have been lost on his fights after that defeat against Inoue but no, he still managed to knockout two decent boxer in just 1 year who also have a clean record.
1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: April 18, 2022, 11:07:06 AM


But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.

The Pacquiao - horn still haunts the boxing community glad that Crawford end his reign and put Horn in the right place he doesn't belong in the elite but this fight is very different Kambosos deserves his title I hope the boxing organizations and Australia's boxing organizations will correct what happens in the Pacquiao - Horn fight and let the deserves fighter to win the match if ever the match go the distance, whether its Kambosos or Haney the world deserves a real winner in this fight.

The whole industry and people around the world that is into boxing knows about that issue and that Manny Pacquiao was robbed on that fight against Horn, they couldn't just honestly forget that time and now that there's another big boxing fight that is going to take place in Australia, I bet lots and lots will want to watch that fight.

For that matter, I don't really think that they are planning again to rig the fight because they know that they are so hot right now and for me it is much better to stay that way so that they won't do such unfair things again. Both boxers is good and they should just trust their own boxer and support him instead of making their boxer embarrass.
1885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 17, 2022, 02:30:48 PM
One thing is for sure, Spence is not Pacquiao and he is more aggressive and more power puncher than him. Ugas might think that he beat the old Pacquiao, he can beat everyone in their division right now and he might get surprised when he takes some punches prom Spence. Can't wait for this fight to happen and to see how Spence can quickly counter that long reach of Ugas which he used to beat Pacquiao. It's hard to predict that it would be a knockout but anything can happen inside the ring and still I bet for Spence to win this one.

Congratulations to Errol Spence what he have shown inside the ring a while ago is definitely a great fight that was worth to watch for. And indeed, Spence is far different to Pacquiao and he shows us a solid performance that leads to his victory via knock out against Ugas. I mean for me there's no point of comparing the two fighter between Spence and Pacquiao both are good fighter in their respective timeline. Now, I am very sure that this is a great milestone to Spence career, however, I must think that Spence vs. Crawford is kind of an anticipated fight if given a chance.

I hope this time there will be no throwing of accusations on both fighters that they are avoiding each other, the boxing community is anticipating this fight and this is one fight that will establish their legacy and a spot in the hall of boxing greats they should not make any more excuses, they should worked on the purse, they will regret it if they failed to make a deal, this is one fight that will define their career.

They should fight in the ring, not through words only.

Spence now have 3 titles already versus 1 title of Crawford, so it's just right that he will demand a bigger share on the purse.

Spence : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465
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titles held   World Boxing Association Super World Welter Title
World Boxing Council World Welter Title
International Boxing Federation World Welter Title

Crawford  : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/447121
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World Boxing Organisation World Welter Title
1886  Economy / Gambling / Re: Online casino. What's the reliability of the technology? on: April 17, 2022, 01:25:03 PM
To what extent is the online  slot game machine RTP reliable based on it's technology?

As words in the street has it that it has gained so much popularity than other casino games due to it's simplicity nature.

Let's discuss, what's your view.

That's right, it's very simple to gamble, but what made it really popular is people now can gamble anonymously as we are in the crypto space. Although I must say that some gambling sites are already strict now when it comes to KYC requirements but everything starts with anonymous gambling.

We have lots of games in online casino, that also make people get more entice to play as due to non strict rules, they can just play it comfortable, and that separates them from fiat casinos.
1887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 17, 2022, 12:49:43 PM
Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.

Their last faced off also helps them as fighter to figure out what are their shortcomings during that fight or what else they can improve in themselves to keep on winning the battle. I believe Donaire has still the strength to fight Inoue despite his age gap but I will not going to set aside the possibility that Inoue will still dominate this battle and if that is the case then Donaire should definitely prepare for their second battle of Inoue. I am so excited to watch their rematch and see who's still the winner between the two great fighter.

Donaire would want that, probably his camp asks for this rematch so he could have another chance to avenge his loss and be a unified champion. Though it isn't easy for him to win, considering how he beat his previous opponent, that should give him better odds compared to the first fight.
1888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: April 17, 2022, 11:50:29 AM


But in any case, a Haney victory will put in as the undisputed, but he has to deal with the more technical fighter in Loma to be call the best of this division. Even though he is the favorite, I think Kambosos has a good chance to win this fight.

It's a technical fighter against a technical fighter, it's a bad idea for Haney to go for a decision he must stop Kambosos he is in the hostile territory we all know how bad Australian officiating is, if he wins by decision it should be total domination Haney should not underestimate the hometown decision, this is a hard task for Haney but let's see if judges will be fair this time after what happened to Pacquiao there.

Haney's father knows that, and so it's a big task ahead of them. But seeing the odds and they are the favorite? obviously, something is going to come up, maybe Haney's technical skills will be hard for Kambosos style. I'm not seeing a Haney knock out victory, it will be on a decision, but then again, can the judge be fair against the American in their home soil?

Seeing Haney as the favorite in the betting lines is a no-brainer, he was the better fighter IMO and he is an American so he has a lot of fans that would bet on him in the fight. I like the fact that this fight will be held at Kambosos country, this should make Haney work harder in order to achieve a very convincing win.
1889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 17, 2022, 10:59:48 AM
What happened to Nuggets ? it seems they cannot keep the pace with GSW and most likely they GSW will win in a series of 5.

They are on the road against a good team, although Nuggets is good as well, but the GSW has a complete lineup, with Curry (back in action), Klay and then the other splash brothers, Jordan Poole. And GSW played defense on Jokic, Green played him very well and making it hard for him to score under the basket. Just a bad game for the Nuggets, but for sure they will adjust on the next game.

There's no way the Nuggets will win a game against the Warriors, too much talent for the Warriors that the Nuggets could not defend. 4 shooters on the floor, my gosh, how can they contend that? Now is the only playoffs that they cannot double Curry because Poole and Thompson will be open, and look how they tire the Joker.
1890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 17, 2022, 10:27:07 AM
Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted  for sure they have a chance to win

Ginebra may have more options to score if Japeth will play longer in the next game but it isn't assurance that they will win the game.  Japeth might not play 100% because of he is still recovering from his recent injury.

Japeth Aguilar is not 100 percent healthy but even though he will be playing limited minutes, that would be a big help for Ginebra because that would mean rest for CStand if the latter is inside the court. In this kind of them, the team that has an edge in defense would likely win the crown and that is what Japeth brings to the team.

Ginebra -1.5 @1.87, the spread is getting thinner, might be a trap for the Ginebra fans but I'm on them for this game.

I don't like the spread to be honest, looks like Meralco will b the winner of tonight's game. I feel betting on the pre-game odds is not good, I'll still take Ginebra though but will wait to get at least 3.00 for ML. I have a feeling that Meralco will once again would have a good start.
1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 16, 2022, 10:56:36 AM

From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 16, 2022, 10:03:55 AM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.
Then let us not speculate anymore, fixed or not, it only depends on how we believe and we can't prove anything without an evidence.

By the way, tomorrow is game 5, let's enjoy game 5 and hopefully the betting spread will be not to high for the Ginebra Kings again, we still want to bet feeling they'll cover when they win.

06:30 PM
Smart Araneta Coliseum


from the official website : https://pba.ph/

A very crucial game for both teams, tonight we will see the handicap of this game, for sure Meralco will still be listed as the underdog but the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 on: April 15, 2022, 01:23:07 PM

Anyways, he still have the power and agility needed. He can still make up for his mistakes and improve to be a much more better boxer than his latest performance.

Enough to convince us that Ryan Garcia is ready for his next big fight. He will be having a big fight next for sure, hopefully we will be able to see him fight this year. you like to see this one?

Ryan Garcia next fight: Eddie Hearn pushing hard for Maxi Hughes shot

A title holder, and his record
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/543029

Yes, that is already enough to convince us and that he is ready to have fight again but I don't think he will be ready against Kambosos, for now it is so risky for him. He still have a lot to improve especially his jab followed by his dominant hand as it could be deadly if an opponent cannot read his actions. So, Eddie Hearn is now looking forward to match Garcia against Maxi Hughes, I saw his record and he is 9 years older compared to Ryan Garcia but yes he can take that job to prepare Garcia more.
1894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 15, 2022, 01:15:59 PM
For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

A draw? That might not happen in this fight, yes it will be a close fight but nah I'm not seeing any draw either. Your choice mate! Grin
Errol Spence to win against Ugas by a decision is a much safer bet, but somehow I'm thinking that maybe he can take down the latter by a knockout but it is a risky bet as winning by a decision is the highest chance I'm seeing in this fight.
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 14, 2022, 02:10:52 PM
Sorry guys Spurs did not cover it. They had a good run in the last quarter but the Pelicans stopped them. JV is dominating the paint and there are many fouls that were not called. It's like they are using the playoffs rule already with no calls by just simple bumps.
1/2 for me as I thought the Spurs could win too but I am happy as I saw Pops smiling even if they are on a large deficit. I guess he is just satisfied with how the young guys are being competitive.

Hawks covered, by a lot.  Cheesy Cheers to the winners.

It's understable the Spurs loss because Pelicans is indeed strong. I'm disappointed on Hornets and Hawks match because they are supposed to have a close match yet Hawks massacre them without any mercy all through out the game. I thought my +20.5 is already sufficient to cover Hornets but they never show any sign of recovery even on last quarter. Next time I will not rely on the standing and focus on the momentum of the team.

You can see how experienced the Hawks are, although they are not that strong this season when they are in playoffs, they showed who they are. Remember that they reached the East Semi-Finals last season, so that experience really did help them to be better this playoffs.

It's still a play-in though as they are going to play the Cavaliers, but I believe they'll win even on the road.

Speaking of the Spurs, I wasn't excited watching them because they let CJ and Brandon scored easily, though they have their run, but it's too late already.

This is what I meant because regular games is really different compared to the pressure of play-in and playing in the playoffs and the Hawks have already that experience so it's quite easy for them to dominate the young Hornets. Against the Cleveland Cavs, I'm still going with the Hawks.

Yeah, it was on the last quarter when they had it but it was already too late because the Pelicans already buried them much early.
1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 14, 2022, 12:39:22 PM
The Hawks was just too much for the Hornets. I thought it would be a closer match and it looked to be that way after the first two quarter but Hawks just controlled the game in the second half.

Next up is the Pelicans and Spurs. With both Ingram and McCollum on the floor, Spurs will have a rough time guarding/defending. I'm leaning towards a NOP win.

LaMelo Ball have no one to compliment his assets, the kid have so much to bring in the team if they only have an alpha they could have figure out another way to face the Hawks, that said, the Hawks really dominates them and continues to advance to in the 2nd half.

While on the Pelicans vs Spurs, the Pelicans have won the game (113-103) .. as expected McCollum did well and followed by Ingram.
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 14, 2022, 11:49:41 AM


I don't have a doubt that Donaire is still the strong fighter that we have known since then even if this man is in aged now, what I mean is if we were going to refer to his recent fight against Gaballo we can say that Donaire has still the power in both hands and that will still be shown to his upcoming fight against Inoue for sure. However, this match is a rematch for the two great fighters and this time we can't tell if Inoue will still dominate the fight or it will be a chance for Donaire to win the game.

You are right, for now Donaire has a very good advantage but you have to think that Inoue has a very good technique, on the other hand I like to make an analogy between Donaire and GGG, both are fighters who are believed that due to their age they cannot have the same performance, but a user here in the forum said a comment that is absolutely right, and that is that as long as you stay active in sports you have active muscles and in turn have the experience that everyone would like to have, of course, this is not compared to youth, juventus is another power, but experience, as in everything, is worth it.


I've been into the boxing world since start of the Era of Manny Pacquiao and many people see the potential in this man after he represents the Philippines the name of Donaire are now continuously shining like the shadow of Manny and now he creates a good image into the world of boxing because of being flashy in the ring he called as the Filipino Flash which he work hard to it's speed and foot work I guess this match would bring a really good match and I vote for Donaire still.

Well he represents the Filipinos no doubt, but it was really Manny who bring the flag on the country into the limelight.

But at this time, it's Donaire that still carrying the torch because Manny has retired and hopefully Filipinos can continue to dominate boxing world because they are a very hard nose fighter and willing to give up everything in the ring. So with that said, Donaire should make the Filipino proud again if he can pull one of the biggest upsets, against Inoue although as I have said, the chance might be slim, but who knows.

It was Manny Pacquiao who made the Philippines more known and that Filipino boxers aren't to be underestimated easily, and yes I agree that Donaire now carries the torch for the Philippines until he retires like Pacquiao did and he will be followed by the new generations which is Magsayo and Casimero. Win or lose, the Filipinos are still proud of Donaire.
1898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 on: April 14, 2022, 11:24:28 AM

It's fine mate, there's no use to think anymore because the fight is already done and wether we like it or not, Tagoe exposed him on what Ryan Garcia needs to improve and I'm seeing that it could benefit Garcia because he will know more what is needed to be done especially his jab.

The important thing is that Garcia have admitted that he lacks in that specific aspect and Tagoe did a good job to make the fight difficult for him.
If you have a nice track on how Garcia fights on his previous matches then you could really able to notice the difference of his jabs when it comes to precision and swiftness but this one do really lacks of that but somehow you could really still see that it is really fast but not really that much on the same when he was still before.

Ring rust and this is where people do speculate about it but it doesnt matter though and as been said that it did really show off on what are the flaws or problems that needs to adjust and
thanks to Tagoe to be the guinea pig. Cheesy

I think that is one weapon they wanted Garcia to developed and surely he used it a lot in this fight. And also we have to say that moving from one coach to another really affected the way he fight in this one.

And that's why it was a sort of 'different' version of him, that's why boxing fans and experts then try to find fault on his game plan and execution. And because he didn't get a knock out victory. But still, the kid is growing and for sure big fights for him are being set up by GBP after the Tagoe fight.
Lots had been saying that this was because of the new coach/trainer on why he fight up that way.You could really see his footsteps arent really that the same as before or he just simply underestimating Tagoe?

Cant really be denied the difference in power and speed but we are expecting  something more than that because thats not how Garcia punches but well what matter most is he ended up on UD.

Adjustments could be made later on if there are really some lapses or major changes which it isnt appealing.

Maybe but we cannot confirm that specific speculation if that's the one why Garcia's movements was different unlike to his past fights where he can dominate easily his opponents, and I think ringrust isn't the reason for this one.

Anyways, he still have the power and agility needed. He can still make up for his mistakes and improve to be a much more better boxer than his latest performance.
1899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 14, 2022, 10:58:23 AM
^^ Yeah, that is a big possibility, wait and see for Crawford right now, and it's a win-win situation. But it also make sense for him to sign with PBC because it is one of premier boxing promotion and they have a complete line up of good welterweight.

And by Spence winning against Ugas, and then Crawford signing with PBC because he wanted to get Spence, then that is a big possibility. But for now, Crawford is going to watch the fight for sure and decide after the fight itself.

Indeed, it's a win-win situation. That's much better rather than just barking and wait for the other dog (Spence) to bark back at him to make a fight happen, and surely PBC can make that fight into reality for him and leave Spence a no choice if ever he will be hailed victorious against Ugas.

For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.
1900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 13, 2022, 04:14:16 PM
Does anyone here take the Clippers ML live?
KAT already has 5 fouls, and he might sit for a while as they want to preserve him in the 4th quarter, LA Clippers can take advantage of this situation.

What do you think?


I think Clippers got this despite 4pts deficit with 4mins in the clock. Paul George is very good on crucial match like this. I already place a +4.5 for the Clippers just to be on the safe bet. KAT is already tired and cautious on his defense so his effect will not gonna be the same as the earlier quarter. I hope Clippers really got this.  Cheesy

Turns out the decision was wrong, Clippers were already at a very comfortable lead, and KAT was already fouled out but Timberwolve made a huge run and beat the Clippers. PG was hitting 3 point shots, but I think it was a wrong play for the Clippers to rely on PG, they did not share the ball well compared to what the Timberwolves are doing.

I really thought that the Clippers were going to get the spot because I've watched the game in the first half and they even managed to dominate the Timberwolves in the first 3 quarters but I was shocked when I saw the result that the Timberwolves have won, yes they over relied to Paul George to carry the team whereas the Timberwolves have shared the ball.
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