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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 13, 2022, 03:36:26 PM
Can others stop mentioning age as the factor here? Why not just focus on real-boxing analysis and technicalities?

It's already proven that Donaire's age is not a disadvantage here. He still fights on his usual. He never will be rusted or slow down since his training is regular and he didn't become inactive for years. He always has the fight.

He got the record of the oldest boxer to get the WBA title and even defended it successfully by a KO win. Can we still consider age as a factor there?

I cannot really understand why there's some people who still considers that age can really become a factor for a boxer to be in a disadvantage and increases his chances of loss, we know that somehow it could take some toll but it's not that really risky because Donaire here has been in the industry for more than 2 decades and still getting some fights almost every year.

Besides, this fight won't be interesting if it is already clear that Donaire will lose. Right?
1902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 on: April 13, 2022, 02:26:09 PM
Tagoe managed to exposed the weakness of Ryan Garcia that is nice that he managed to do it but the problem is if Garcia is now fulfilling this shortcomes he has but I think a few months of training is not enough though even if he can train those weaknesses I think it is not yet or far to be perfect.

I like to ask, what was the weakness you are talking about?

Sorry, because I believe Ryan Garcia really dominated the fight and Tagoe was just there to survive and take a good cut on that fight.
Did Tagoe even hurt Ryan Garcia? If Tagoe goes for a toe to toe fight, for sure that would not last 12 rounds.

Garcia dominated the fight? Please watch the replay and you will see he is having difficulty.

I think you are just referring to the boxer's name and don't bother to watch even the highlights. Tagoe put Ryan on his limits and we should give him credit for that. Ryan is not even satisfied with his performance even though he wins.

Agree with the above, OP can now consider locking this thread as we might see other analysis that is supposedly not associated on the fight.

I agree! Ryan Garcia himself isn't really satisfied to his own performance about the fight and he also admitted that he have a lot of aspects that he needed to improve to make his punch more fatal because he already have the agility to do it. Even if Tagoe was defeated by Garcia, he needs to have that credits because he managed to expose the latter's weaknesses and one of those weaknesses was the lack of defense that got him knocked down when he faced Campbell before.

Either way, Garcia's victory isn't that much of a big deal because it was just a UD. IMO Smiley
1903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 13, 2022, 01:58:59 PM
Going back to the topic, the outcome of this fight would also dictate the possible fight of Crawford, and if Ugas would win, I think it will be easy to make the fight happen because if Spence will win, they'll play the purse sharing issue.

Terrence Crawford is a free agent. After his fight with Shawn Porter I thought he would sign with DAZN right away. Official DAZN fb page was posting a lot of Crawford pictures congratulating his victory over Porter while there was zero PBC or Showtime post. And DAZN is obviously the richest boxing network right now. But lately, there are rumors circulating that PBC is offering Crawford a deal. First he fights Danny Garcia and then later he can have Spence. I am curious though, why the need for Crawford to fight Danny Garcia first before Spence. Crawford is turning 36 next year, not a prime age anymore. So I am still hoping Ugas can pull an upset this weekend.

Yes, he is a free agent now because after he fought with Shawn Porter he didn't re-sign again for the Top Rank for the fact that Bob Arum didn't gave him the a fight against current heavy names in the industry. Although the rumors weren't confirmed if Crawford really had a deal with PBC but Eddie Hearn of DAZN believes that these two had a deal.

Eddie Hearn Believes Terence Crawford Signing With PBC

Maybe Crawford is just waiting for the result of this match, and if ever Spence jr wins, most likely he will sign with PBC an then request for a fight with Spence.

So Spence can't make any excuses because it's his promotional company that are going to insists for this mega-fight. For sure the split might be amicable for both sides and Spence can't run anymore.

I thought about that too and there's a high possibility that Crawford already have a plan to make the fight happen as he already called Spence to fight him numerous times, while Spence on the other hand was busy avoiding Crawford and leaving the people so curious. So, signing with the PBC will indeed make that fight happen. But if in-case Ugas wins then I think Crawford don't need PBC's umbrella for that.
1904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 12, 2022, 04:09:03 PM
The sad part is he was not informed early until it was leaked to ESPN. Ouch! Surprises. Lakers management does love that.  Grin
Now the roster, we might be surprised too in the next days to come or before the season starts again. I bet they are going to overhaul that roster again and seek players that are younger. Who knows, they might be done with making a veteran lineup again.
Where would Howard go that will make him more productive and be back with 20+ minutes per game? I wish a team signs him up. It's too cheap for just $2.6M for an agile 37 years old.
He will be a great asset for this era being dominated by 3 giant players.

Well! that's just how it is if the management doesn't like the result of your hard work and you failed to give them the championship they wanted to further expand their profits from the Lakers merchandise and other stuff. The question is, who will gonna replace Frank after this season? I'm sure it will be a huge challenge for whoever it will be because they will gonna overhaul the entire roosters and they gonna trade Westbrook
The fact that they already fired Frank Vogel then I assume that they are already eyeing someone else to do the vacant job. The Lakers management have those money to hire coaches again but the question is, does this new future head coach can give them the goal they want? We'll see about that soon. It's just sad for me to think that after Frank Vogel gave them a championship title last 2020, he will be just fired just like that without getting informed before it was leaked.
1905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 12, 2022, 03:35:59 PM
Nets -8 against Cavaliers
Clippers +2.5 against Wolves.
I like this pick and I am riding it.
Just some touches on the spreads since I think it changed between you took the bet and now. -9.5 for the Nets and +3.5 for the Clippers.
Time for the Nets to show they want that playoff so bad they should win this.
The Clippers on the other hand might be given a hard time by the Wolves as they became competitive these past games. I will put Batum for KAT for an inside and outside defense or maybe Morris.
Good luck.

Yes, same here I'll definitely put my bets to the Nets. The spread moved since @stadus posted his bets but a -9.5 spread will somehow be covered because they even managed to dominate the Cavs last time they've met with a double digit lead.

For the Wolves and Clippers game, it'll be intense and a close game for sure. Might do a live betting on that.
1906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: April 10, 2022, 09:11:24 PM
Definitely the Suns to lose here this year.  They are stacked up and down and with cp3 at the helm they are in good hands.  My flyer at 15-1 odds is the Grizzlies.  They are young yeah but they are so good.  They will have a tough matchup against the Suns or the Jazz, other than that I can't see them facing tough competition in a 7 game series.  Riding the Grizzlies at 15-1!
Great choice, I am seeing the value on the Grizzlies as well, they played plenty of games without Morant and yet they are still winning games. I can't believe at first but I realize, why not give them a chance, this team is on the 2nd straight in the playoffs, they might have learned a lot in their first appearance, one thing also, Morant is now healthy.
1907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Desktop wallet vs Mobile wallet on: April 10, 2022, 02:27:03 PM
I will always go with a desktop wallet as for me it's safer than a mobile wallet.

However, there are wallet providers that would let you link your desktop wallet to your mobile wallet, I think this is safe because if you lose your phone, you can still access those in your desktop wallet, but you have to be aware that taking care of your desktop wallet is more important especially if you have files that are required to access your wallet if you decide to open your wallet in other devices.
1908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 10, 2022, 01:32:18 PM

My early pick. .. I got Spurs ML and Clippers -11.5

1-1.. Got the Clippers but lose to the Spurs, should have bet on the spread only.  Smiley

Anyway, I have some early picks again,

Dallas (-10.5), and Clippers (-10.5).



@ralle14, same pick, good luck to us.

Honestly, I don't feel betting now that the season is about to end, the game could be more unpredictable but based on my observation, the favorites in the betting would usually win and cover the spread because probably they want to bring that momentum in the playoffs or the play-in. So with that said, I would like to say good luck to you because you choose the heavy favorite.
1909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 10, 2022, 12:38:26 PM

Just like when we are discussing a GGG vs Canelo Trilogy even if they still have an upcoming fight, well in the case of GGG, he already win his fight against Murata.

And with that, it increases the chance that the trilogy will happen because Canelo is also a heavy favorite to win against Dmitry Bivol.
The odds BTW, https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/dmitry-bivol-v-saul-canelo-alvarez

I hope to see this soon, for sure it's not a problem for Canelo to fighting this year again if he wins this May, and there's plenty of time, so both fighters could prepare for this big fight, it doesn't matter if it will be in the last quarter of the year as long as it will not be postponed.
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 10, 2022, 11:48:51 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

Ginebra had a double digit lead but they finish with 8 points lead in the first half. We are now in the 2nd half and Meralco seemed to be coming back. I got Meralco +6.5 during the break, just in case they'll lose, at least I have an extra points to fight for.
1911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 10, 2022, 10:48:19 AM

Back to the Lakers, I agree, Lebron wanted to carry these guys to another championship but too bad Anthony Davis was hurt so the wish won't come true.
Maybe next time. If there will be one, or if they keep them.

If only they were able to find the right chemistry, then they could have achieved a good ranking despite Davis's injury in the season. The problem is, even if Davis are playing, they are still struggling against a strong team because of their chemistry problem, players are not in synch and sometimes Westbrook are just throwing bricks that would result to a lose of the team.

If Westbrook remain a triple double machine, then for sure they are still in the playoffs.

Enough for this, we cannot turn back the time, let's just make it simple and tag the lakers to have failed this season. Their journey is over, next season it will be a different roster as some will be traded for sure. Maybe let's move to the play-in discussion.

What teams do you think will play against each other, and your winner?
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 10, 2022, 09:31:46 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.
1913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: April 09, 2022, 04:33:58 PM
Why people is really that interested on whether this fight would be postponed again or not? Pretty much sure that they had make out some arrangements behind about those lawsuits and if we cant see any
information or news about it then much sure  that they dont really like for it to be known or exposed to the public and since there were no announcement in regarding on this issue then its better that we
should not stressed out ourselves whether this one would be a significant possible problem or not for it to affect the upcoming fight once again.

Don't get them wrong.

They just want an update. Not because they are seeking the real score and status of the fight, it means they are interested in the postponement. Others are just concerned because why those updates are not in public. Most people are looking forward to making the fight happen and since no news, after all, they become worried which is not actually wrong.

I doubt there will be any changes from now on as the fight is just a few weeks' sleep. Let's be positive that this time, Casimero will now be able to fight without any problems.

Yeah, I don't think that this will be cancelled because Casimero is not going to make it in this fight. This has been settled already and his team is doing everything they can. Casimero has been training based on his vlogs so no problem at all.

And it will be a total disaster for him in case the fight didn't proceed for unknown circumstances. He will be strip of the belt and maybe his career will take a back seat. So everything is on the line for him here.

There's already no present factors that could lead a hindrance or cancellation of the fight and stripping of the belt because Casimero is already ready to and get sweaty with Paul Butler this 22nd, in fact he's really showing now to the people that there's no need for us to worry as he's already healthy. 1 more week to go people and we will see this match! Grin
1914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: April 09, 2022, 03:40:34 PM
At this juncture, if I will put my bet and choose my champion for this season I'll prefer the nets team even though they are not in number 1 in the playoffs but still believe that they can win and claim the trophy. All their star player helped each other to push the game into victory and that's why I choose them. I will risk my money to bet this team even loss or a win still happy 😂.

Brooklyn Nets is a decent team with no doubt a powerful duo who's also an experienced players in the playoffs and both holds a championship title in the past. They also contributes big scores to bring a win to the team, it is just that they really lack and vulnerable in their defense. I'm not saying they cannot be a candidate this season because they still have a chance and probably can work things out with Ben Simmons.

Maybe before which they didn't get Simmons,Seth and Drummond to their team, but now they are different we can already say that they are now a title contender team which other needs to prepare. But if they get messed on playoffs and they didn't work with their system set on their team then maybe we cannot see them take forward into the finals.

They need consistency so that they can achieve what they are aiming this season.

Their Nets roster now is much more capable in defeating and dominating a much more heavier teams in both conference with Ben Simmons playing on the court and doing his thing, but that's still an if for now as he's still trying to straighten his path and he still have his back injury that I don't why he acquired or have that.

As of now, they are on a winning streak for 3 consecutive games and will probably win again in their last game of the regular season against the Pacers.
1915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match on: April 09, 2022, 03:10:04 PM
I also think that this fight will push through when the day of the fight will come. The loser of the match could be a chance for those who lose in their previous match which is a chance to climb back again and maybe land to a big fight. I'm thinking that this match is in favor of spence even if you just base it on their records which Spence did have more KOs. Not that I am very sure of what I said but there are unexpected events that you thought will happen so, all we can do is to wait and let the time tell you the result.

This fight haven't met any issues at all unlike the Casimero vs Butler and Canelo vs Bivol who have some struggles or rumors that the fight will somehow delay again. But for Spence and Ugas, this surely will push through as there's no any hindrance that would make the fight delay, well for now because we cannot yet forecast any future events.

Looking at their records, yes Spence really have that advantage but Ugas cannot be underestimated as he also worked his way so hard to reach this spot and he can give an upset in any unexpected time.
1916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 08, 2022, 09:47:57 PM
Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.
Even if I don’t believe on this, there’s a possibility for this scenario especially if Money talks already.
Let’s just enjoy every game, because the season is about to end and we might wait for months again before we see them playing back in court. Game 3 will be big this weekend, expect a more intense game and I also see Ginebra to take the lead, looking for the best odds now for Ginebra.

Most especially enjoy betting as you cannot enjoy watching without risking money. For non-bettors, it's better for them not to know about rigged games because they will only be disappointed and will only make their own speculation as well, not good for the PBA.

The missing link for Meralco in game 2 is Maliksi, he was scoreless in game 2 and only earned a few minutes.
1917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 08, 2022, 09:26:13 PM

One more is Brooklyn Nets vs Cleveland Cavaliers. Seth Curry is questionable to play but I want to lean on Kyrie and Durant to maintain that 8th spot. They could do it, they should. Nets -8.5

The last time I saw these two teams play, it was a close game, so I'm not really confident with that -8.5 seeing how the Cavaliers are playing. But anyhow, it is still possible for the Nets to cover the spread, it's just that I'm not confident, so instead, I'll go with the total and take the over 232.5.

Here's the head-to-head results of the last 3 meetings

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/matchup/251758


Just carefully analyze your bet, but always consider that Nets now have Irving that will play every game as long as he is healthy.
1918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 08, 2022, 08:57:18 PM
Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.

It depends on the agreement, but if there's no rematch clause, Donaire could pursue the winner of Butler vs Casimero fight and try to be a unified champion, then afterward he will retire because that is what he wants to achieve.

Donaire will retire as a champion, that' a great legacy IMO.
1919  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor on: April 06, 2022, 10:01:09 AM
Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor (on going discussion), Jake Paul even have the balls to say that he could knockout the Notorious McGregor in octagon.

Is he serious about this? he may be bigger than McGregor but fighting in octagon with him wouldn't be easy for him even if he is a professional or experienced boxer. McGregor have experienced with bigger opponents and have experienced with grappling and he can easily win with a submission.

ya.ya.yo!

Unfortunately, yes! It seems to that he's that serious to fight the Notorious McGregor in his own playground, the octagon. In fact, there are more talks that the fight would take place on the octagon rather than on the ring where the challenger at least stand a chance but no, he's challenging McGregor to fight him on the octagon and carelessly said that he could knock him out when in reality Jake Paul is the one who's getting barbecued on the octagon and worse getting knockout with bruises.
1920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule on: April 06, 2022, 09:32:37 AM
It seems to me that I would consider betting on GGG's opponent with odds no less than 8-9.

That's not possible because this fight is a unification fight, if you want to get that kind of odds, then you should guess what round GGG would KO Murata as you cannot change the current odds. Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.

Betting on Murata isn't that bad idea as he also have that chance to upset GGG, being an underdog cannot be underestimated, we surely saw many upsets in the past years. About the odds, it shows that it could be much profiting if you bet on Murata's side. However, I can't really see that happening and it's just a waste of time.

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Murata is very popular in Japan, and his fans believe that he can beat GGG.
I can't also believe that he's more famous than the monster Inoue himself, Murata is viewed as a hero in Japan. I can't know for sure why but my best guess would be that he gave honor to Japan when he acquired the gold medal in Olympics.
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