Purchased on Selly, everything worked fine! Still be cautious, but I had no issue.

While I do think that plagarism is bad, I do see the source being added NOW so once that's given it's added it's pretty fair

I do think that highlighting this information here, where people are going to be looking to get their 'fix' by gambling on one of the many sites that are advertised in peoples signatures, and in the gambling section as well. So I do think it is a pretty noble goal, as the people who have a gambling addiction most likely aren't going to admit it and go ahead and look for help. This is a way for them to stumble to it, randomly.

The chance of them landing here is low, but if it helps at least one person save their fortune then we've done our jobs. Eh?

This same line of thinking is like saying something along the lines of "If I think hard enough, I'll win" That's (sadly) not how statistics work, and you're not just going to be able to beat statistics with a dream and some praying. Sorry, but that's not how the world works.

Maybe for a little while you'll get 'lucky' though I can assure you that over a long period of time it doesn't matter on your emotions you're going to end up losing to the house edge. Sorry, but gambling isn't your friend. INVEST!

Yes, I have. and I pride myself in being someone who isn't going to go back to gambling, I've noticed that it's a horrible wormhole to go into and you're just going to want to gamble more and more. You're going to become consumed with gambling, doesn't matter if you're winning or losing. Every waking minute of the day you're either doing some 'what if' rolls in dice ex: "What if I went all in here" and then rolls a 0 bitcoin role on some website.

You may go up a little or a lot, but if you continue to play all you're going to do is give the house more and more of an edge in beating you. The house has an edge for a reason, and that reason is to to beat you. That's how it works, thats why gambling companies exist. It's not profitable to give people a 50 50 shot at winning, as they may win and continue to win. But if you give them a 47 percent chance to win, you're going to win in the end.

Don't try to recover the losses, you're going to come out of this with no money and a life that has been lost to gambling.

Might want to buy, is there anyone here that has had a good dealing with you or--?

A feedback thread, if you will.

EDIT: I do see the Selly.GG ones, don't know if you have any trust here. That's what I'm looking for.

EDIT V2: Seems like your prices are different on the Selly platform for digital ocean, any reason for that?

Oh thank god this is the point that you've found, I completely forget about this! It's an amazing point, gosh I wish I thought of it.

I've come to learn that the only people that support socialism (or full socialism) are the ones that are living with all of the amazing amentities of a capitalistic society, they're the ones that have never seen the evils that are present in socialist countries and the peril that comes to those under this government. Too much free shit can only work if you have some amazing businesses holding this up, if the businesses run off or the money stops flowing in -- then you're shit out of luck and you're going to have to cut some of your programs, OR you're going to keep the programs running until it's all over.

+1.

Tron is without a doubt a business, they're not a coin that's ever going to be used. The founders of the coin (and the initial investors) are only here to push their coin up in price, and sadly that's whats going to happen in the next bullrun (whenever that comes), and then the founders are going to sell at a certain point when they've made 'enough' money out of this.

That's how these shitcoins work, and that's how they're going to continue to work.

I'd disregard all of their bullshit partnerships, that's just a way of trying to get people to think that their is adoption on their coin. Focus on BITCOIN.

Well this is one of the few things that we're going to agree on Jet Cash, as this video rids itself of bias and simply present the facts about Brexit.

It's a pretty crazy video to see, and I do think people should watch it. I think one of the biggest problems with Brexit is that there are too many deal-breakers and extremes on both sides. If the referendum to leave the EU really wanted to see what the people wanted, there should have been a vote with a "Yes" or "No" and then people voting on what they wanted after it.

I understand the whole, we want autonomy in who comes to our nation. We want to be able to fish in the sea around us, etc etc. Though things get tricky when trade comes into it, as regular everyday people don't understand trade deals and the implications of them. This isn't too much of an issue in the US, (at least, not as much as the EU trading deals) though in the UK (and the rest of EURO nations) every single one of those nations need one another when it comes to international trade. They all rely on one another, and if Britain does leave everyone is going to be hurt.

Who knows if Brexit means BrEXIT or what's going to end up happening. We'll see, I guess.

So what you're saying is that there was a program, setup by Hugo Chavez in an attempt to sway public opinion towards him after Katrina. Every country in the world has tons and tons of programs that intend to help other countries, and at the time I'm not going to dispute that this program did help people.

Though you YET AGAIN forget that the Venezuelan economy was fully based on drilling for oil. It's not like this nation was paying top dollar for this product, they were literally pumping it, refining it, and then helping people in the US with their profits as a way to sway American voters towards the regime -- and to get the US off their back. This wasn't done out of the kindness of Chavez' heart, it was done for his own gain.

You ALSO miss the fact that this program obviously ends with the gas / oil prices come back down from their extremes, and Venezuela falls into peril after they've overextended themselves into these crazy programs and completetly forget that once the black oil gold rush ended they'd be fucked. This is poor planning by a country, and it shows how dangerous a country relying on what product is like.

People seem to forget, time and time again, that the crimes that Manafort was charged on (and found guilty on) charges that were completely unrelated to the Trump campaign. Headlines that say 'ex-trump chief' or something along the lines which makes the attempt to relate the two together are doing it for clicks and not for journalistic integrity.

All of his crimes relate to things that happened around the years of 2010-2013. Work that was done UNRELATED to the Trump campaign.

I think it's fair to entertain the argument that the Trump team may have done a bad job screening him, though I don't think him getting in trouble for a completely unrelated charge is the reason for someone to say that Trump is without a doubt a foreign agent due to this.

Here's a BBC quote explaining the charges he's been found guilty on:

Like honestly Jet Cash I don't even know how you make this stuff up, nor how someone of your caliber of knowledge could think this is true.

Maduro is obviously going to try to sway public opinion by blaming the 'evil United States for attaking his regime'  Once I see some evidence to back that claim by the Maduro regime, then I'd be ready to say 'okay, that's fair, but until then I'm going to cast that bullshit away as propaganda by a hostile regime.

Maduro and his horrid administration have been able to be the cause behind hyper inflation, starving, an economy that has practically collapsed, little to no jobs, and so on and so forth.I don't think anyone finds it hard to believe that they also mismanaged the utility system and electricity is failing now. Surprise, surprise!

Abandoning trade has been one of the worst things that the US education system has done, they've failed their students by not giving them the opportunities that they could take advantage of. I can tell you right now that the plumbers, electricians, etc in my area make some really good money -- it's because it's a dying field that has less and less people entering it. We should take advantage of that, and promote trade schools and trade opportunities while you're in highschool.

It's sad to see because people dismiss these VITAL trades as useless, or low paying, or something along those lines when they're most obviously misinformed. There is a lot of money to be made in plumbing, electrical work, woodworking, etc. I just found an article in the Atlantic saying that a boy was expected to go to college (which I think is a pretty horrible thing to simply expect, because you should really just try to guide a child and not force them into a role) He was adamant about going into woodwork and went into trade school without his fathers approval.

Here's a good quote from the article, I'll link it below as well

Without a doubt true, a good deal of people are pushed into college because 'that's what works for most, so it should work for you' It's a horrible system to push people into, and the people that are doing it really couldn't care less because all they're trying to do is make the high school look better. There's little to no accountability in a system like this, because once the kids leave and are done with the HS there's nothing that can be done to ensure the advice given by staff and faculty was the right advice for that particular child.

That's sad to see too because one adult's negligence to even care about what's happening with these kids instead of just sending them into the same system that everyone else is going to just because 'it works for some' can set a kid up for a life of debt and failure.

You'd hope that the 'professionals' you're trusting to guide your child can guide them, instead of stamping them off to the next stop in the EDU mill.


I can tell you from my personal experience that the big reason some of my friends went to the schools they went to was so childish that it irked me. They would go to a school for the parties, or the football program (or any sports for that matter), or for this or for that non-career related stuff.

I don't get it; you can go to a state school and get the same education as some to these insanely overpriced places and not land yourself or your parents in a gross amount of debt. Even going to this school while fully knowing that you're only doing it to party and piss away your parent's money is such a selfish thing to do it's disgusting.


Without a doubt, there are certain sectors that have been forced into doing it, because their potential employee pool is even smaller than the pool that is present right now (which is crazily small, in the case of tech)

But I do think there are entire sectors that you'd have to be lucky to get in a job in without a formal secondary education because that's what you need to get licensed -- think of CPA (Accounting), CFP (Financial Planners), etc. You're required to go to school to get those licenses, and while it's not required to be licensed to work in those fields, you're probably going to want to get those licenses in order to make some 'real money'

I'm going to say it straight out, the secondary education in the United States is a burden on the people that was BUILT to be a burden on the people. College didn't get magically more expensive because people were getting paid more (hint: wages haven't risen enough to even come close to percentage growth of tuition), college got more expensive for a domino effect that people didn't notice.

Government Policy
Financial aid is a great intention, yes, and it brings new minds to colleges that wouldn't ever be able to attend if they had to fund college for themselves. But the problem with spending 'other peoples money' is that you're going to stop caring about the price of something if you're not the person footing the bill in the end. If the Government pays for all or most of your education, you don't care if the school raises the rates on you and you won't stop yourself from going to the most expensive school. That sounds fine, yes, but if you were paying that all in cash and the government wasn't helping you, you'd be much more diligent about where you'd be going and trying to get the most bang for your buck.

Another issue with the government paying whatever has to be paid in financial aid is that colleges know this they're going to increase rates of tuition because they know the money is there and it's guaranteed by the government.

With this in mind, I don't think you can fully remove the blame from government officials. They might have been well intended, yes, and this is a very popular issue with the voters -- as the voters want EVERYONE to go to college -- but the only reason politicians enacted this policy was because it was popular and because they knew they could get re-elected if they supported it and continue to support it. We sometimes forget that politicians aren't these amazing people that are working so hard for us, they're working hard in order to get reelected and to keep their power.

Growth of Certain College Spending
In this millennial era or college-goers, colleges have had to change what they're spending their money on. Millennials like to feel special, unique, etc. Colleges know this, and in order to pander to this generation they spend money on certain amenities to try to get prospective students in their doors.

Whether it's the college with the nicest dorms or a college with with that one crazy amentities Certain colleges compare to some of the nicest country clubs in the amenities that they're providing in trying to attract students. Building these amenities isn't cheap, but that's not the end of it.

Not only do you have to build these amenities, but you also have to market them -- and marketing isn't cheap. The best marketers are already most likely working in the private sector, getting paid large amounts of money, so for you to bring them to your college to work for you and try to attract students - you too have to pay them the big bucks. And they do, as a large share of the increase in college, spending has gone to marketing (pretty much sales) efforts.

College may seem like a business right now to you, and in one line of thinking it is -- as colleges want to continue to grow and grow and the only way to do that is to pander to more and more students, even if it means raising the rates of tuition.

But it doesn't really matter to them if tuition rates go up, BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS GUARANTEEING PAYMENTS ANYWAY. So who cares, right? (haha)

Bloated Administration
But once you have all these cool shiny new buildings, you need administrators to manage all of this. But colleges have gone overboard with management bloat because from 1975-2008 administrative positions have grown 221 percent while teaching staff has only grown by about 50 percent to accommodate the large increase in the number of students.

Administrative bloat is a real thing in every single sector of the economy businesses face this issue every single day -- some companies go overboard when they start expanding, and it's not always easy to cut back the fat. Though in business, it's done easily (or should I say, more easily) as companies are beholden to their shareholders and are there to maximize profits -- THEY MUST trim back the fat, and if they don't they might be replaced by a board that doesn't support them.

Though this isn't the case in academia, as colleges continue to hire more and more administrators with no end in sight because they see no end to the guaranteed money that the government is shoveling to them hand over fist.


Jobs Requiring College Education and College Popularity
For businesses, college degrees have become an easy way to weed out those that can deem 'uneducated' -- it's a cheap way to weed out potential employees, and it gives them an easier criteria to judge people. Some sectors (such as Tech) have gone away with this model and have been hiring people without college degrees if they're able to code, but MOST professions still require you to have a college degree to even get an interview.

That's the problem with a college degree and people saying that you 'need one' You only 'need one' because everyone else has one, there's no value in you learning in a classroom compared to what you're going to learn on the job. Every employer knows that you're going to have to give the new guy a good couple weeks to fully grasp a real 'working environment'

To employers a college degree is an easy screening process, it's nothing else than that.

Who else is making money from this?
Eh, there's a bunch more people that love our current system.

Standardized college admissions test creators (such as the College Board, and the ACT company) make a great deal of money making potential college students pay for exams in high school in an attempt to get into the school of their dreams. Just for reference, you have to pay $79 each time to take this test (either one) and then around $30 per school to send the test to the schools. Yes, taking the test in most (if not all) schools is mandatory and you must also send it to the school.

Student Loan Financers - The people that are able to loan out money to students while being guaranteed by the full faith and credit by the US government LOVE THIS, they're getting paid a gross amount of money to have the least risky loan in the entire country. Crazy system, but that's what lobbying can do for you.

What can we do to fix this issue?
My idea - Lower the pressure on the financial aid and loans faucet. Quite literally this means stop being so generous with the amount of aid that you're willing to dole out. Make colleges accountable, and force them to lower their tuition rates by only paying 3/4 of the current financial aid amount (or any amount really)

With this sort of pressure, colleges are going to be forced to lower prices and cut the fat -- if they know a good deal of American students aren't going to be able to go their school that they need to fill, they're going to work something out.


What are your thoughts and your ideas on the subject?

With that in mind though, the only reason that education is really needed is because employers deem it necessary. As it's an easy way to be able to weed out employees that aren't qualified -- that's the same reason that colleges and universities make prospective students take the SAT/ACT, as it's an easy and cheap way for them to weed out students without having to develop a model to 'standardize' grade from around the entire country.

Education could be changed INSTANTLY and FOREVER, through the people in business saying the simple words of 'fuck that' lets just hire people based on character and whatever other criteria they deem appropriate compared to a degree on a piece of paper. Though -- I doubt that's going to change that quickly, unless the people in business start to notice a degradation in quality in the workforce of those that have degrees.

Those in all sectors benefit from the current bloated education system. Those in government are able to promise large amounts of benefits for those going to college, such as guaranteed loans from the federal government, TO EVEN A POTENTIAL FOR FREE COLLEGE (Bernie). Government officials are able to say that they're getting more and more people into college, the general population then keeps voting these people into power.

But wait, there's more people that are benefiting from the current (screwed up) system. Colleges! They've become more and more top-heavy in the past couple decades. In simple terms, this means that they've been increasing the amount of administrators at their schools  while barely increasing the amount of professors and other teaching staff. They've also been able to increase prices for education, as guaranteed loans from the federal government mean they're going to get paid no matter what.

But that's not all, the banks who are sending out these loans are also able to make a good amount of money on the interest payments on these kids that are going to colleges for absorbiant amounts of money. Don't forget, GUARANTEED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

People forget that in the real world, (most likely) those that are going into college with no income aren't going to be able to get a loan for 40k a year with no proof of future income -- though the Federal Government guarantees loans (which is popular with the voters, so EVERYONE can go to college) so the banks don't care about what they're signing off on as they know they're getting paid either way.

But who gets fucked in this situation, the taxpayer, and the kids that are left in gross amounts of debt. Taxpayers are paying for these people to go to college before they're able to pay (as you don't make one payment before you actually leave college) and the future grads (or maybe they won't even graduate) are stuck in an exorbitant amount of debt for an education that is necessary to get a job but probably wasn't 'worth it' if you look at the amount they paid. What a crazy world we live in.

Everyone makes money, and there's no reason to change. I think I may make a individual thread where we can talk about education and policy surrounding it, seems interesting.

Trying my luck again! Fingers crossed.
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Completely unrelated to this entire thread, but #WallsWork?

Tvbcof, I'd ignore coins4commies if you want to try to keep some of your brain cells. There's no way that this person isn't just spewing shit that they know little to nothing about in an attempt to get people to think that he's intelligence -- though it's not working in the least.

Just because I wear the signature of a company which promotes gambling doesn't mean I'm not able to speak out about what I think new regulatory policy should be related to gambling. I don't see the 'gotcha' moment by you two in the least.

I may have strong beliefs on the topic yes, but my one signature is one that would be replaced if I was to leave. So what's the point in me giving up my reward? There's no point in that.

As a side note, in the part that you quoted you failed to notice that I was speaking about loot boxes and gaming companies. Though I do know what you were referencing though, even if you failed to quote the correct area.

Not something that I would get into unless you're knowledgeable about the code behind it, the developers, and the companies which are pushing it. If you're not personally able to audit the process (or at least find someone you can personally trust with your money to audit it) then I think you should be avoiding this system. You're setting yourself up to lose money by means of decit, and that's not something anyone wants to see.

That's not even touching the fact that I think most of these altcoins are shitcoins and the 'gambling' ecosystem which is present on them is just an attempt at gaining clout. Bitcoin is the only coin which will REALLY be used for gambling (I guess alongside XMR for privacy) Everything else is just a shitcoin.

This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.


Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.