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2821  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [4800Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) on: February 16, 2014, 08:44:09 PM

Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.

+1 thats only fair. Most people are too lazy to setup... or remove donation. I bet most users agree with this.
Make it effective your the boss.

My only disagreement with this is that it's not free money, if he's doing all the hard work Smiley

Eligius is huge. I think it would be just fine to have a default donation, as long as it says so, and I think that it would in the long run be to the advantage of the miners if there was a fee. Wizkid could either do it all the time himself or afford to hire staff, and in either case this would be good for us.
2822  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [4800Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) on: February 16, 2014, 01:55:52 AM

well tnx for the payout rly ... but who gives a shit about ur private life ... $ is $ .. and erasing posts does not changes the facts ...
this pool stats/payouts crashes too often for a such good pool despite the really honest & responsible work of the owners ... if u cant handle it for free just make some % better then putting pool of unknowable for users state for undefined time ...

You really should have more brains than to post this. First if you think you can do it better with less downtime do it. Its a lot harder to manage something this massive than you think. Second the OP has done nothing but kept us updated on this time consuming task. He looked into it quickly and responded to us the same. If you do not like it join a different pool. And free has nothing to do with it he went on vacation which everyone is entitled to. Grow up and stop being so rude.

Well, that about says it all, doesn't it? Had my own acidic reply all ready to go, but yours is better.

WK, ignore the morons. They make you look good, frankly. Eligius went from being an "also ran" to one of the biggest pools out there in short order in no small part because it's operator has his shit wired. These little glitches are a minor annoyance at worst. Probably a major headache for Wizkid, but they cause me no harm. We always get our coins. Last time, WK was on here for three days getting it fixed. Pretty damned impressive for a system that charges no fees. Many of us have put in the voluntary donation, and for my part, I think it's money well spent.
2823  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 15, 2014, 07:59:45 AM
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some fuckstains will be contacting you.

Yes!  Outstanding technical jargon.  I believe this is the first use of this word other than by my own self that I have ever seen.

I was going to use it in my brainwallet, but now that it's appeared in print, it will be all over the rainbow tables.





Shows my age Smiley Was pretty common in the late 70's.
2824  Economy / Economics / Re: MESSAGE TO FEDS: PLEASE BAN BITCOIN on: February 14, 2014, 04:41:11 PM
Whenever something is banned, its price goes UP.  Wink So please, ban to your evil heart's content.



This is the worst thing I have read all day...maybe all week.  What planet are you living on that makes banned items more valuable?   It makes them impossible to adopt/use without facing legal implications. 


Earth. Uhm, Cocaine? Costs pennies to produce, sells for outrageous amounts due to being banned?

While I imagine the OP was tongue in cheek, do think before posting...


Yea true, but BTC is being used because its a legal way of purchasing such products, I mean what other reason is there for BTC to be honest. I mean anonymity is only truely needed when you don't want others to know what you are up too.

True. I just thought the above post was one of the more poorly thought out things I'd ever seen. And I'm not young.
2825  Economy / Economics / Re: MESSAGE TO FEDS: PLEASE BAN BITCOIN on: February 14, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
Whenever something is banned, its price goes UP.  Wink So please, ban to your evil heart's content.



This is the worst thing I have read all day...maybe all week.  What planet are you living on that makes banned items more valuable?   It makes them impossible to adopt/use without facing legal implications. 


Earth. Uhm, Cocaine? Costs pennies to produce, sells for outrageous amounts due to being banned?

While I imagine the OP was tongue in cheek, do think before posting...
2826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: goodbye iOS. hello Android. :) on: February 14, 2014, 01:50:36 PM
Android is as stupid as iOS in terms of privacy.... You should go with CyanogenMod.

Cyanogenmod IS Android, just with various alterations and additions.
Not exactly.

yes. exactly. in the same sense as linux distros. I use and love Cyanogenmod, and it is more secure than what came stock because it is rooted by default. It is still android.

Here is what seems to be my group of Google and system apps on rooted S3.  Likely this list is incomplete.  I have app to delete system apps, so I can make any of these go away.  Likely one does not know the effect of deleting a system app, and neither does one know the extent or content of it's reporting upstream.

Google Play, Google Play services, Google+, Maps, Google Settings,
Google Speech, Google Text to Speech

S Memo, S Suggest, S Voice, Samsung Apps, ChatOn


These are google apps that I loaded myself

Gmail, GEarth, Google Translate

Here is the group of outstanding apps that I've personally loaded to this phone and use a lot.

K9mail, WikiPock, Kiwix, Imdb, Total Recall, Trello, Simplenote, Dropbox, Evernote


My question is simply, given a mix of usage as this, how would Cyanogenmod be different/better/cleaner/simpler?

Secondly, the issue being the upstream reporting that an OS, app or system app does, how would one even know the content or extent of that data set?  It would seem possible that regardless of one's attempt to steam issues with the OS and system apps, one singular malevolent app could, unknown to any user, harvest all.

Therefore the highest value in an alternative OS would be that it be capable of viewing and reporting to us these upstream datasets.  I do not have the impression that Cyanogenmod does anything like this, and in the absence of that, would classify it as "modified android" instead of "android with enhanced privacy/security".



I was typing under the influence of a 4 week old kid Smiley

As it stands, Cyanogen doesn't enhance security, IMO, any more than simply rooting the device and stamping out anything that offends you. It's true of all rooted/modified android systems. I like it better than base android because of it's sound abilities, to be honest. It pulls the safeties on audio reproduction (which also gives you the ability to let the smoke out, but they warn you of that and I'm not an idiot).

My reply was intended to convey to the first guy that Cyanogen IS android, not that it was superiour. In re-reading it, it doesn't look like that. We're on the same page, I think. I just worded it poorly.
2827  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-13] Coindesk - California Bill Would Make Bitcoin ‘Lawful Money’ on: February 14, 2014, 11:14:33 AM
States can't pass legal tender laws and this bill dose not propose to do that.

Yes, they can. Just not at a federal level. Else we would still be bound to silver and gold. (which would not be bad in any tangible way). It is actually the Federal Government that cannot legally declare legal tender to be anything but gold and silver. The fiat monies we've been beaten down with for the last century are NOT legal by the supposed empowering document of the United States of America.

This is just one of many areas where they OPENLY prove that they have no legitimacy, yet we keep bowing before them...
2828  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-02-13] Coindesk - California Bill Would Make Bitcoin ‘Lawful Money’ on: February 14, 2014, 11:11:54 AM
Bitcoin already is lawful money. California "lawmakers" should kill themselves for being the idiot douches they are.

Hey, now. I grew up in Sacramento. (Citrus Heights). I find this statement very offensive. What the hell have Douches done to deserve being compared to California legislators?
2829  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 14, 2014, 10:37:28 AM
For all customers in March batch its the same. They will not be able to make any profit.

I did calculations and it shows me 2.8 BTC until the end of the year (excluded electricity) with a 600GHs CoinDesk and difficulty increase of 20% per 11 day timeframe.

Invest : 3.500$
Mining : 2.800$ (with BTC at value 1000$!)

So if bitmine will not compensate this, every customer will make a big loss...;-(


the difficulty wont increase 20% over this year for sure.
Miners mine btc, not fiat.

Bullshit. You mine for profit. You sell your coins for fiat, gold, crackers, whatever. Both are valid metrics, and neither are mutually exclusive.

No asic manufacturer is going to guarantee your returns, as they cannot. If they say they are, RUN, Do Not Walk, away from that scam.

Also, there is something in the mind of a miner that loves the game, which is in itself a profit. Yes, historically and probably in the future, buying and holding will make MORE profit. But it's just not the same. Cheap beer will get you drunk, but it's not Fat Tire. Ya know?
2830  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MTGOX - so am I hooped? on: February 14, 2014, 10:19:57 AM
You guys should have known "Magic The Gathering Online Exchange" was a bunch of crap from the beginning...

Fuck that! I love that game!


Humour aside, I think that most of you will get your coins. Eventually. The officers of the company are too well known in the real world to get away.

I also think they need to just halt operations, send out everyone's coins, and fold. Or restructure. Either way, they need to shit or get off the pot.
2831  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
They basically said exactly what BA had been telling us. If that would be a violation of the NDA, then BA would have been in violation of it a long time ago. Specifics about the deal are under NDA most likely, not broad facts that BA has been telling us this whole time (ie 28nm ASIC being made by verisilicon and globalfoundries)

Yes, I understand...but that does not detract from standard corporate policy of...keeping you mouth shut. BA can say all they want...it's their Tech. But Veri is under an NDA and That email blows it right out of the water. Think about it. How long do you think a company that handles other company's proprietary technology under NDAs would last if they had employees that talked to general population about said technology?

It doesn't make sense...IMO

Handing out proprietary technology =/= Confirming a non-secretive contract with a company


BlackArrow had asked earlier that some people contact Verisilicon. I would assume that prior to doing that, he/she/they/it would have contacted Verisilicon and said "some fuckstains will be contacting you. This is what you can reveal without us getting butthurt" or something to that effect. What was addressed in the reply was not proprietary information, as BlackArrow has stated a relationship with Verisilicon since they first announced the project. Confirmations of this sort are not unheard of. More often it relates to "established" press people, but the internets have changed that paradigm beyond recognition, so that does not trouble me.

On a side note, Phinneas Gage is not trolling. Trolling is dragging a baited line behind a boat. PG is dynamite fishing. Cheesy

What really pisses me off is that I can dispute this.  Cry

Well, perhaps by saying you're grenade fishing.... LoL.
2832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: goodbye iOS. hello Android. :) on: February 14, 2014, 10:02:16 AM
Android is as stupid as iOS in terms of privacy.... You should go with CyanogenMod.

Cyanogenmod IS Android, just with various alterations and additions.
Not exactly.

yes. exactly. in the same sense as linux distros. I use and love Cyanogenmod, and it is more secure than what came stock because it is rooted by default. It is still android.
2833  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
They basically said exactly what BA had been telling us. If that would be a violation of the NDA, then BA would have been in violation of it a long time ago. Specifics about the deal are under NDA most likely, not broad facts that BA has been telling us this whole time (ie 28nm ASIC being made by verisilicon and globalfoundries)

Yes, I understand...but that does not detract from standard corporate policy of...keeping you mouth shut. BA can say all they want...it's their Tech. But Veri is under an NDA and That email blows it right out of the water. Think about it. How long do you think a company that handles other company's proprietary technology under NDAs would last if they had employees that talked to general population about said technology?

It doesn't make sense...IMO

Handing out proprietary technology =/= Confirming a non-secretive contract with a company


BlackArrow had asked earlier that some people contact Verisilicon. I would assume that prior to doing that, he/she/they/it would have contacted Verisilicon and said "some fuckstains will be contacting you. This is what you can reveal without us getting butthurt" or something to that effect. What was addressed in the reply was not proprietary information, as BlackArrow has stated a relationship with Verisilicon since they first announced the project. Confirmations of this sort are not unheard of. More often it relates to "established" press people, but the internets have changed that paradigm beyond recognition, so that does not trouble me.

On a side note, Phinneas Gage is not trolling. Trolling is dragging a baited line behind a boat. PG is dynamite fishing. Cheesy

Couldn't have said it better myself.

But about pg, I am not sure if it is considered trolling under the textbook definition, but a "crusade" set on making BA look bad based on incredibly flimsy findings certainly doesn't help anyone.

Was mostly joking there. PG goes overboard, but has often exposed some pretty elaborate scams. I find him entertaining, though I would not want to be in his crosshairs. FWIW I don't think BA is a scam, but I also have no skin in this. Minersource and DMZ are definitely not scams, whatever the past of their respective officers.

I think the community needs crusaders like Bruno, but we also need to have our personal bullshit detectors set on max at all times. Regardless of desire and motive. I take a middle line on practically everything here. I've been dead wrong a couple of times, on the money once, and the rest kinda held to the middle. Bitcoin ASIC companies tend to not have their shit wired. That is my starting assumption with all of them. So far the only exception has been Bitmain, which I initially thought was a scam.
2834  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 09:40:54 AM

but black arrow are purportedly the designers of the hardware, and very silly con, the manufacturers... so WHO ARE working the REAL fab-houses for Black Arrow, or is that just a step too far?

i'll wait for these posts to be deleted, AGAIN.
Probably TSMC.

possibly, but TSMC are currently putting full endeavour into 20nm (2 fab houses) and according to news, are opening another 2 fab houses in march.. doesn't leave much space to fab old tech? I may be wrong but i don't see why they would be making 28nm, when they have facility to produce 20nm... I'd reckon they'd be more focussed on doing the new tech, and progressing to 14nm... thoughts?

Do you have any idea about what you're talking about.

Sorry if that sounds rude but literally a few posts before you someone confirmed the chips will be made by global foundries.

And just because 20nm exists doesn't mean the larger process sizes are useless. IIRC tsmc only made like 25% of their revenue from 28nm and the rest from larger sizes. Also the advantages of 20nm may not be significant enough to justify the nre costs.

Wasn't me, though I did see that after I posted the above.
2835  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 14, 2014, 09:29:56 AM
They basically said exactly what BA had been telling us. If that would be a violation of the NDA, then BA would have been in violation of it a long time ago. Specifics about the deal are under NDA most likely, not broad facts that BA has been telling us this whole time (ie 28nm ASIC being made by verisilicon and globalfoundries)

Yes, I understand...but that does not detract from standard corporate policy of...keeping you mouth shut. BA can say all they want...it's their Tech. But Veri is under an NDA and That email blows it right out of the water. Think about it. How long do you think a company that handles other company's proprietary technology under NDAs would last if they had employees that talked to general population about said technology?

It doesn't make sense...IMO

Handing out proprietary technology =/= Confirming a non-secretive contract with a company


BlackArrow had asked earlier that some people contact Verisilicon. I would assume that prior to doing that, he/she/they/it would have contacted Verisilicon and said "some fuckstains will be contacting you. This is what you can reveal without us getting butthurt" or something to that effect. What was addressed in the reply was not proprietary information, as BlackArrow has stated a relationship with Verisilicon since they first announced the project. Confirmations of this sort are not unheard of. More often it relates to "established" press people, but the internets have changed that paradigm beyond recognition, so that does not trouble me.

On a side note, Phinneas Gage is not trolling. Trolling is dragging a baited line behind a boat. PG is dynamite fishing. Cheesy
2836  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 13, 2014, 10:37:44 PM
Robert kuang seem to be asic design maneger at verisilicon. That pass breach was long ago 2011 but still this nda bugs me.
Can somebody best pg email him?
 
I hear ya, but NDA's are commonplace.  In my business,  it's very common.  Nobody is given information or allowed onto the manufacturing floor that hasn't signed one.  Period.

it's common business practice.

what the scope is I don't know, as we haven't seen it obviously, but I don't doubt it exists.  I'd be more surprised if it didn't.

http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Semiconductor_Manufacturing_International_(SMI)/Verisilicon_Holdings_Ltd

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VeriSilicon Holdings Co., Ltd. is a fabless ASIC design foundry focusing on providing semiconductor IP, design services and turnkey services including manufacturing, packaging, testing, and delivery.

No wonder it's not on the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_IP_core_vendors

now that's worrying... tapeout of a chip, they don't even fab.



"Fabless manufacturing is the design and sale of hardware devices and semiconductor chips while outsourcing the fabrication or "fab" of the devices to a specialized manufacturer called a semiconductor foundry. Foundries are typically located in China[1] [2] [3] [4] because of the generally low cost of labor, so fabless companies can benefit from lower capital costs while concentrating their research and development resources on the end market."

but black arrow are purportedly the designers of the hardware, and very silly con, the manufacturers... so WHO ARE working the REAL fab-houses for Black Arrow, or is that just a step too far?

i'll wait for these posts to be deleted, AGAIN.
Probably TSMC.
2837  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 13, 2014, 10:07:57 PM
No you showed how mining in a pool that is constantly DDOS attacked, and rapes it's users, does not reward 1.2THs, it only rewards about 862GHs...
Here's what a stable 1 TH/s system looks like:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1FT66kMTmFzVVzphfTeU1q1wec7QnmfWCQ

Here's Bitmine's unstable 1 TH/s on the same pool at the same time
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1BA1Y3xvLbSYU9TqcxUspXzEn1roSStCVr
Don't try blaming the pool. It's obviously not the pool's fault.

I see that same "stability", in the time-frame just before the last "tweak".. also the same instability... That other miner only has a better average, because it has been running for weeks, with better averages...

Love the 600GHs dips, and the 1200GHs spikes... you sure that isn't a stable 1.1GHs or 1.2GHs miner running? You are missing the actual CGMiner screenshots to confirm that units actual running speeds, with matching dates to the charts. Anyways, average over time is 976GHs for that long, uninterrupted average. (Well, except the obvious "network issues" and diff-shares issues.)

By the looks, the section prior to the last seems more stable than those other values. Except the last values, which are all over the place, similar to the 1.0GHs miner they are tuning now. Again, that is NOT AMT's miner. Only the same chip.

I've been mining Eligius since day one with my miner, with a few days on BTCguild for comparison. What I've noticed is that I get a lot more variance at the pool than I do on the CGminer screen, but it's still WELL within the 10 percent variance that was advertised on the website. I've also noted that over time, the pool is rather close to my reported average in CGminer. A bit lower. I attribute this (possibly incorrectly) to network/pool parasitic losses. Just like an engine will measure higher horsepower at the shaft than at the wheels, ya know? Eligius does NOT charge fees or keep the TX reward, unless you configure it to donate a portion of your shares. (I have, as Wizkid busts his balls keeping things straight) I've no issue with the guild either, but I like Eiigius better, and make more coin there.

I've also noticed that when I play with the settings, it jumps around like a kangaroo for a few minutes in CGminer before it settles down, and that the variance at the pool is actually a bit smoother than in CGminer for that time frame. Again, I'm assuming parasitic losses are affecting the stats.

The two biggest users at Eligius could profitable solo mine. Hell, they command a huge percentage of the total network!  The rest of us, if mining BTC, will need pools to have any profit, unless we just plain get lucky.
2838  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 12, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
The breakers were installed in the existing breaker-box, the wires were run in conduit, by an electrician friend. (outside the walls) The outlets, that tie to the raw lines, were done by me. Anything at the "outlet-box", is allowed to be done by the home-owner, here in Florida. The rest, for insurance purposes, had to be done and also inspected by a certified electrician.

Only cost about $350 for everything to be done. Friends work for beer.

(As for the bet above... change that to peak, and not average, and it would be a reasonable bet. But not one I would be willing to submit to, as "shit happens". Since "out of the box", is also not specified, and "optimization" isn't specified.. I would take you up on that offer, if you allowed it to be "judged" after a suitable "optimization period". Also, once AMT says how many chips will be in my unit. Without that, it is a blind bet. You have a contradiction too... you say "hit 1.2THs", then say "average 1.2THs"... that is a big contradiction... "Hit 200MPH", and "Stay running at 200MPH average", is not the same. Do you even lift bro?)

Also note: I think I am getting screwed by the power company though... we put all lines on one half/leg of the power... So it seems like I am drawing twice the amps at the meter. If you do setup new breakers, have them balance them to the two separate legs. If you draw 100a on one leg, the meter here seems to see 200a because it seems to measure the greatest draw across both legs, as amps, but charges for watts. It seems to assume if 100a is drawn on one, that 100a is also being drawn on the other. If I had that balanced, it would be 50a and 50a on each leg, and the meter would read 100a total, not 200a total. That is my next thing to fix. (That, or I need a PF-correction unit.) Electric meters are such horrible technology. (Again, this is what seems to be happening, when I measure the timing outside. It does not match my actual draw of the units. Measured directly. Chime-in if you know the solution to that one. That solution was told to me by the guy who installed the breakers. He didn't think it would be that dramatic of an offset.)

Yes, I had the power company come to reset the meter and "test it", they said it was working fine. Tongue Sure... it only charges me double, it is supposed to do that! lol. So much for paying half price. (It isn't quite double, but it is more than measured draw.)

Balance your breakers. You should have two busses, and one neutral bus (usually physically two since it's also the ground, but they're tied together). Make sure you stagger the breakers so that if you have an even number, they are 1:1 on the two busses. Meters are actually fairly accurate, but they do count parasitic losses and unbalanced loads. The meter would have to be a much more complex and expensive device to do as you suggest, whereas balancing the load across the two busses is easy. Just make sure the main is off and/or you have high rated insulated gloves Smiley
2839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So It Wasnt All Down To Gox? on: February 12, 2014, 12:46:55 PM
As others have stated, the issue was known, and has been addressed by the dev's. Greg Maxwell, in particular, has stated that the "flaw" only is a problem to Gox because of them using a very custom implementation of the wallet that does not handle the problem correctly.

I've never used Gox, so I don't have a personal story one way or the other. But by observation, I'd have to say that they have been extremely sloppy over a long period of time. I'd like to jump on the "scam" bandwagon, just because they look scammy in this, but I think it's more likely incompetence and arrogance. Number one postion makes you the number one target, and they didn't wear proper armor.

I'm all for customization where it makes sense, but if you have a wallet design that doesn't address an issue that has been in the open for some year until JUST NOW, then you did it wrong.

I think this will all sort itself out, and I think that Gox will need to get a lot smarter, a lot more efficient, and a lot more transparent THIS WEEK, or they will become part of Bitcoin's history rather quickly.

Of course, I could be wrong. They make a lot of money, and that can gloss over a lot of stupidity.
2840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mining is unsustainable on: February 12, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
In my arrogant opinion, there needs to be a lot more focus on getting people to use bitcoins to buy real world things. A LOT of real world things.

Right now, due to the past couple of years exposure, the mainstream is peripherally aware of bitcoin. It is growing by leaps and bounds in some areas, and not in others.

Imagine how many transactions are done every hour using just one organization: VISA. Capture 1 percent of that, and the TX fees will likely make the generation of coins a bonus to miners rather than the other way 'round as currently.

I would like to see some of the big players like Western Union and Moneygram start using bitcoin as their transfer medium. That alone would boost the hell out of transactions, and it would be easy for them to do. And profitable, while lowering their current fee structure.

That, among many other things, would solve this problem. Proof of Stake is counterintutive to me. It's basically interest on savings, and that really only works well when those savings are reinvested in something to GENERATE that interest.
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