Dash is looking same attractive and strong like it was before. It's market overall is stable if we see its valuation in fiat as well. It will make huge come back and then recovering its lost position against Bitcoin will help it to double the price against dollar. This is how I see any project and no worry seeing some kind of balance in both markets. Stay tuned and ignore an unnecessary comments.

whats the meaning??


and whats up with icebreaker and few others above??

let's consider the fundamentals which differentiate Litecoin from Dash.


Litecoin is much older and has a more powerful/secure ASIC PoW network than Dash.

Litecoin is older than every coin except bitcoin that doesn't make it better. It does have a strong network, so does Dash. Monero on the other hand doesn't even have 1000 nodes.

LTC isn't the oldest altcoin (LOL, you are such a clueless noob).  But being ancient compared to Dash does mean LTC enjoys more of the Lindy effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect).  The Dash network is not "strong" compared to LTC because the high 1000 DASH CONOP destroys its decentralization and LTC ASICs burn far more power than Dash's puny energy consumption.

AF- Insults are not a great way of making your point you know. Where are the oldest ones these days then? on the scrap heap? Tell me which older coins than litecoin I should be paying attention to? Presumably they all have an awesome lindy effect.

Litecoin keeps up to date with hot new features like SEGWIT, while Dash can't even keep up with RBF/CPFP and breaks simple yet crucial things like IPv6 compatibility.

SEGWIT is very controversial, and in bitcoin seems a long way off being accepted. Litecoin is using this hype as fuel for a pump. IPv6 is irrelevant at this time. Other than you I haven't seen anyone else mention it.

SEGWIT has been tested for over a year and for many very good reasons enjoys support from the majority of exchanges and hardware+software wallets.
SEGWIT was "very controversial" only because you halfwit DashHoles and Gavinistas were being bamboozled by Roger Ver and Jihan Wu, because they wanted to keep secret their covert ASICboost cheating and AntBleed backdoor.  You should feel like an idiot for buying into their manufactured r/btc controversy.  

AF- Insults are not a great way of making your point you know, its almost as if you feel you need to include them because you know your argument is flimsy. I can accept segwit is a great innovation, this doesn't mean it isn't controversial or it would already be active wouldn't it? The segwit bundle also deliberately enables offchain scaling which is not part of segwit per se. In any case bitcoin probably does need a scaling solution however Litecoin doesn't. Litecoin is hanging onto bitcoins coat tails because thats all its ever done. Litecoin isn't maxed out to capacity. If Dash needs it at some point in can be included in Dash due to compatibility with bitcoin.  

Litecoin is going to have working payment channels like Lightning soon, thanks to SEGWIT.  That means InstantX, Masternodes, and Evolution are obsolete digital trash.

Lightning Network would be even more controversial than segwit. It will harm mining. And with huge volumes of transactions being handled off chain by Lignting Network will make the whole point of the blockchain diminish. The big money elites will be delighted to be a step closer to achieving elimination of cash replaced by electronic money in their control via lightning networks.  

Lightning Network is only "controversial" because of manufactured FUD driven by Roger Ver and Jihan Wu.  It's not our fault so many people are too stupid to understand that LN TX are not off-chain and best conceptualized as Layer 1.5.  Dash doesn't really have a Lightning-killer; despite your wishful thinking all of Dash's supposed scaling features are still vaporware without even a peer-reviewed whitepaper to back them up.
Lightning Network is going to be tested in production on LTC, etc. before its BTC deployment, not to mention LN is only one among many schemata for implementing trustless bidirectional payment channels.  Meanwhile, Dash can't even keep InstantX working on mobile and IPv6!  

AF- Give me a break, layer 1.5 do you know what a layer is? Feel free to explain, include a schematic too. It seems to be a colourful way of pretending Lightning transactions aren't off chain. The lightning network will most likely look like big hubs (like banks) with spokes (ordinary users). There are risks that huge volumes of offchain transactions will occur through big hubs. Why do you think miners aren't keen? It is natural for some to be uneasy with this. If all goes to plan, in maybe a years time LN will be ready to be used, as my optimistic estimate. At the moment it is still in development. When it is released, if segwit gets accepted, bitcoin will have instant transactions. A bit like Dash already has.

Litecoin's creator has DNA from MIT & Google, while Dash's has a sketchy background in finance and a 2 year mail-order degree in web marketing from University of Phoenix.

So what? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates dropped out of college. I could almost say that a degree is a hindrance. Certainly it encourages parrot like repetition of 'the mainstream' rather than original thinking.

Jobs and Gates dropped out of Reed and Harvard, not the U. of Phoenix.  In no universe are coblee's MIT CS degrees a "hindrance."
Spare the rest of us your sour grapes kvetching and deflection due to Duffield and yourself not being anywhere near qualified for admission to Reed, much less Harvard or MIT.
I understand Duffield's and your own education were limited to "parrot like repetition" but please rest assured academia's many STEM departments are absolutely teeming with original thinking and mind-boggling innovations.  

AF-  Who cares where he studied? This argument has little relevance to anything. The point is what Evan has achieved and already done. The innovation in Dash is in a different league from litecoin who only copy and paste bitcoin core code.


Litecoin's cobblee does not shill for and pump LTC; Dash's Duffield frequently advertises his project as a legitimate investment without disclosing the risks involved.

Evan is invested in the project. And wants it to succeed. Thanks to the instamine he was able to focus on it full time.

That doesn't justify Even posting trading advice like "don't short Dash today" then quickly deleting it when advised of the statement's incriminating nature.  Evan is ethically and legally required to disclose the exorbitant and overwhelming risks involved with Dash investing, yet he does not.  Shame on him!
Coblee obviously also wants LTC to succeed and has already enjoyed great success without needing to resort to Dash's gimmicks like a very controversial massive Instamine, shilling the coin to noob housewives and other unsophisticated retail investors, and setting up a HYIP PonziNode scheme.

AF- But he quickly deleted it so whats the problem? Even if he left is, so what? Bringing that into the debate is a bit desperate. And yes Dash is aiming for mainstream adoption, thats one major reason I'm interested in it.



Litecoin was not 20% Instamined in the first 2 days; Dash was.  Litecoin never cut total emission to further enrich early miners; Dash did.

You can think of the instamine as a bit like an ICO. As already mentioned it enabled Evan to concentrate full time on the XCoin/Darkcoin/Dash project. Which we are all now benefiting from.

I cannot think of the instamine as like an ICO, because I know how ICOs work and have seen them work (thanks Viacoin!).
Comparing Dash's dishonest surprise Instamine with a pre-announced fair ICO only shows how completely you have swallowed the Evan's Gate Kool-Aid.
Dash does not benefit from its Instamine because it is defined by that unforgivable Original Sin and thus destined to be forever despised and reviled by the rest of the Bitcoin universe.  Coblee had no trouble launching LTC in his spare time while working at Google and Coinbase, no Instamine required, so why couldn't Evan get a real job instead of only running his scam full-time?  Lazy?  Stupid?  Greedy?  Some combination?  All three?[/b][/size]

AF- Maybe it was a mistake to base on litecoin and inherit those bugs that caused the instamine? Or not? Instamine has been done to death. There is no secret, it happened. However partly due to the consequences of it Dash is where it is today. A successful innovative project, unlike those coins that are older than litecoin that seem mysteriously absent from the top cryptos today.  

Litecoin does not require trusted 3rd party security holes; Dash makes SlaveNode users the playthings of Masternode Ponzi participants.

This point doesn't make sense.

The point makes sense, you just don't understand it.
Unlike Dash, Litecoin doesn't use Masternodes, which are security holes because they are trusted 3rd parties.
Fully participating in the Dash network requires 1000 coins; full participation in LTC doesn't even require one full Litecoin.
Is that better?  Does the point make sense to you now?

AF- I was meant to get that from what you wrote!   Litecoin doesn't use masternodes or do anything else original. Except being the first to copy and paste segwit. The masternode system is working extremely well, look at the budget system and the marketing you are so jealous of.

Litecoin doesn't have to keep changing its name like a disgraced over-diluted pink sheet stock; Dash does.

Dash has evolved and its name has reflected that. Litecoin is still stuck as silver to bitcoin gold and will never be anything else. The segwit hype only proves that further.

"Evolved" is a PR spin word now famous because Clinton and Obama used to excuse their hypocrisy on gay wedding cakes and transgender bathrooms.
"Pivot" is the preferred term to indicate Dash's 180 degree reversal from DarkCoin-The-Privacy-Coin to DashCoin-The-Paypal-With-Moar-Blockchain-Coin.
FYI, Segwit is now a fact on Litecoin; it's locked in and going to activate Soon.  That's not just "hype" any more, it's cold hard reality.

AF- Dash still has the same privacy features ;-)

Litecoin is supported by Coinbase and Kraken; Dash is considered a scam and despised by most of the crypto community, and thus will never trade on those exchanges.

Those exchanges may well change their minds just as bitfinex did.

You are right for once!  Kraken did, given a $50,000 bribe now worth $250,000 (LOL GRATE JOB GIZE   ) "change their minds."
I doubt Coinbase will though, given coblee's antipathy for the Dash scamcoin.
Regardless, the word most associated with Dash is "Instamine" and it's not going to change.  You're welcome for that.  

AF- You say bribe, I say business deal. Isn't the budget system amazing?

Litecoin prioritizes technology over marketing; Dash does the opposite.

This couldn't be more wrong. Litecoin has done anything original except tweaking the bitcoin parameters? Dash has done more innovation than any other coin. The marketing is just a happy side effect of the budget system. Which is working supremely well.

Dash is a fork of Litecoin, and yet here you are biting the hand that fed you.  Classy!
Dash's "innovation" is snake oil marketing, privacy theater, and good old fashioned Ponzi economics, not technology.  But congratulations on the budget system seemingly producing the recent pump (which will end when Evan dumps more Instamine coins).
With segwit, Lightning, and mimblewimble, LTC will be more technologically advanced than Bitcoin; meanwhile Dash is 10s of thousands of lines of code behind the latest Core release!  FAIL.  

AF- Litecoin only has these features because it copied them from bitcoin. Do litecoin developers do anything?  

Litecoin has a bus factor >>1.  Dash keeps losing devs who get wise to Evan 'The Instaminer' Scamfield's long con:

I never heard of Dash losing devs. I do notice them growing the team.

The world is not defined nor constrained by what you heard or "never heard."  Keep your incredulous appeals to ignorance to yourself and learn how to use the Search box at the top of the screen.  Oh who am I kidding, you will never do that.  So I'll spoon feed you like a little baby.

vertoe's Dash resignation letter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg10925445#msg10925445
TheDashGuy's resignation letter: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/

AF- The Dash Guy? Correct me if I'm wrong but he was never on the team? but I do remember his tantrums, maybe I even sympathised with some of his points, I don't really remember. Meanwhile maybe you missed this, https://www.dash.org/2017/05/03/TeamRestructure.html

So there you have: If most people use LN for their small transactions/payments more block space there is for the "important" transactions if you are willing to pay the fee. You can choose which method you use. What's bad about that?

It's not that you need to chose one way or another, you will be able to decide for each transaction you decide to make.

Where do you see the problem of mining centralisation when everyone can just buy their own miner?  

Because they don't have an incentive to go through all that trouble.

Altcoin manipulators be like

Can you please explain me with your own words what LN is and does?

I really dont take a Dash supporter too serious tho. First they pump it, then its stagnates. Then it dissapears. Its good that Btc takes its time to figure things out properly, but the dark side of decentralisation is that innovation takes so damn long. Same with democracy, its the best solution but it takes ages to decide and implementate. Btc is like old greece. Just philosophy while other lower skilled bad equiped no-knowledge countries are closing in. Its really discusting to see so much bad alts growing while they will dissapear. Dash with this maketcap is just a joke a IMO.

Entirely false information. Your mistake was believing a word that clown says.