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841  Other / Meta / Re: Trolling let's define it here and also vote on if it should be given RED TRUST on: January 11, 2019, 12:55:30 PM
It's pointless. I stood up for her when marlboroza tagged her and in return I got just more vitriol. She's not gonna change so it doesn't really matter at this point. I'm not going to even suggest that Lauda or TMAN revise their ratings. This is firmly in the "flat earth" type of dispute now. Some users are convinced that this level of reality-defying nonsense is a strong indication of untrustworthiness and I don't have any good argument against that anymore.

this is cryptohuner's problem, the moment you do/say something he/she dislike you become a potential enemy, I think if cryptohunter tackled the issue with a better approach he would have gotten better support from both DT and non-DT-members. i don't know TMAN and Lauda but i think if cryptohunter comes with a better behavior whatever issues they have can be solved easier.

Well you may not know them but lauda is a proven scammer and tman is its bitch. That's about all you need to know. There is no need for me to resolve my problems with them because unless they can get in foxy's time machine and go back and not be a scammer and scammer bitch then why should I need to resolve shit.

The FACT remains they have ADMITTED IN BLACK AND WHITE  that they have left me red trust for presenting facts about lauda scamming.

What more can I do to explain this to people??

They have now realised that they can not find anything I have done wrong at all except present facts they are scammers. So now they are changing tactics to say oh he is crazy because he swears at us and shouts at us. Then they come here saying to shove carrots up my ass and that my uncle is touching me up or some sexual deviance that Tman seems to enjoy.

They are complete retards and scammers. Nothing more. If anyone says they don't understand what I am telling them they are either dumb or part of the collusion it is that simple because it is there in black and white.

They are using DT to silence scam hunters highlighting their past scamming tactics. It is there in fucking black and white yet the other bunch of DT pussies do nothing so now I say they are scammers too for allowing this scamming shit to happen. Kick every one of them out.

Anyone finding any flaws in what I have said bring it with FACTS or stfu

842  Economy / Reputation / Re: All topics about Lauda in Meta and Reputation on: January 11, 2019, 04:42:34 AM

Let's all be perfectly honest for once in our lives. Shall we?

this should be interesting
843  Other / Meta / Re: [Lets Discuss]Custom Trust list and Pros and Cons of the system. on: January 11, 2019, 04:35:16 AM
If these 3 are still on DT1 in 2 weeks it is not working

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0



That's all long ago, resolved, and irrelevant as it has been proven to not be true. Read more. Post less.  Roll Eyes

really now? just undercover i hear?

No... This is the "extorted" users explanation, so what is done is done.... Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.msg17629087#msg17629087

hmm  reading the thread does not seem everyone is convinced does it. Many say you forced him to say that because you had doxed him already.

Now for the undeniable FACTS BIT

how about this one

biggest proven captive instamined scam ever on this board even evan offers airdrop to make up for it......

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg7535561#msg7535561

lauda after ages of pumping it and protecting it then claims he was there and there at there was no instamine - scamming turd

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208


owlcatz explain your red trust because it links to my page posting facts? are you trying to silence me relating facts about lauda and lying to protect and pump scams in the past because it looks like you are and so is that imbecile TMAN

Well i say it looks like you are..... you actually are. that is not just red trust abuse that actually silencing scam hunters revealing scams and scammers histories. So basically you are totally reversing the intended use of red trust ... your previous collusion on the under cover sting LOL seems to be happening again.

Explain yourself now.

Suchmoon is aware of this but is trying to shut me up about it too. He red trusts people for supporting scams or pumping them he says these supporters are scammers for doing it  and need red trust. Now suchmoon is a scammer by his own definition for protecting lauda and putting him on DT even though he has evidence that lauda is pumping this scam and denying the captive instamine scam.

Suchmoon is now a proven scammer by his own definition and all of them need to be removed at once and blacklisted.

Bring forth a factual argument why they should all not be removed right now.

Also any DT reading this and not booting them out of trust is complicit and needs removing and blacklisting.

Can we have DT that understand that scammers and scam protectors and liars are the bad guys. I think that could be a good start.
844  Other / Meta / Re: Please stop make new topic regarding "DT" complain until Monday. on: January 11, 2019, 04:26:21 AM
Meta and Reputation board are full by shit post.
There are some shitposts but I woldn't agree that boards are full of shitposts.

I counted 4 shit-threads based on my personal view.
One user is ranting.
Something about DT is infested.
Need cure.
Much medicine.

Other threads are fine.

Lol well you are posting there so must be quite shit moronbozo

this fool was there begging for colluders to allow him to abuse the trust system fir his own ends the same  red trust he removed before

What a coward and fool. haha


845  Other / Meta / Re: Trolling let's define it here and also vote on if it should be given RED TRUST on: January 11, 2019, 03:16:29 AM
cryptohunter, you are not a troll , your ways of communicating with others are not polite enough IMO.

I voted  "no", i do not think you deserve a tag for being a troll or annoying or an accuser, but you also can't get away with your behavior of simply treating people with only 2 perspective of whether you are on my side or on the "gang's" side.

I encourage the DT members to remove their tags on you, and give you one more chance to debate/protest with better manners.

It's pointless. I stood up for her when marlboroza tagged her and in return I got just more vitriol. She's not gonna change so it doesn't really matter at this point. I'm not going to even suggest that Lauda or TMAN revise their ratings. This is firmly in the "flat earth" type of dispute now. Some users are convinced that this level of reality-defying nonsense is a strong indication of untrustworthiness and I don't have any good argument against that anymore.

You don't have any arguments scammer

LOL here is suchmoons friend lauda on DT now pumping and lying about the now famous captive instamine that is PROVEN to have taken place.


apparently he says he was there and there was no instamine.... oh really???

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg7535561#msg7535561



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208
846  Other / Meta / Re: My 25 sMerit offer for a single post on: January 11, 2019, 03:03:15 AM
I really want to join this challenge, but this is not easy for beginner like me. I hope in next challenge i can join it

sure you can have a go...

here is something to get you going

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

847  Other / Meta / Re: DT1 just admitted he will red tag for providing factual evidence regarding scams on: January 11, 2019, 01:54:52 AM
The picture you posted says it there clear in black and white have another look.
The comic, which BTW I regularly post whenever someone implies that his right to free speech is being violated, uses the word bullshit.
I did not.
If anyone, please direct your complaints to Mr. Randall Munroe, xkcd.com.

Just help or stay clear of me.
Unfortunately, I don't think I'm able to help you with your condition.

This being a public forum and me being allowed to use it, I don't see how your request of me "staying clear of you" could be considered a valid one.
Lucky for you, this forum's software has a function that might just meet your requirements: the "ignore" button.
Feel free to use.

LOL let us analyse qwks story just for fun another comedy in the making ....he is a joker this one.



Keep in mind this

qwk will be removed from DT if these scum bags  get canned. who are admitting to giving red trust for presenting facts about scams they are involved with or their colluding friends are. I can produce the proof.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview


TMAN
Lauda
Blazed
The Pharmacist

qwk also supports lauda with tman.



so clear motive for him not wanting them to get canned...or he is likely gonna be out.

First he shows up here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095296.msg49161717#msg49161717

tells me there is no problems nothing to see. I mean he says if there was an issue dts would kick the offenders off ....therefore by that logic there is no problem ...lol

after I probe him with a couple of questions he runs off and hides away .... those questions were pulling him into having to admit we must use any information we have that is fact based or highly corroborating evidence for wrong doing like murky escrow or extortion schemes should be taken into account and blacklist them for obvious safety reasons when dealing with trust. So away he runs.

NEXT

He shows up on this thread.

So bearing in my he is DT and should take the OP very seriously. I mean others (who he colludes with obviously) are in black and white admitting to giving red trust for simply stating proven facts regarding scams and trying to silence their free speech even in relation to speak out the truth and facts about scams??

So what does he do? get right on to that? I mean he is DT he would not want that happening right? that is the opposite of what DT is for?

No he does not he posts some pic making light of people claiming their free speech is getting taken away and that they are just spouting groundless bullshit and are welcome to leave...nice little door pic bye bye those that want to mention facts about his scamming trust abusing friends who keep him on DT list.

Then when I call him on that bullshit claim and ask him for proof he says

he will do if he feels like it.

NEXT

I call him a moron for saying my posts are bullshit and tell him to find one that is not true.

Then he goes to trolling saying he would answer but sadly cant talk to trolls.

I ask again about this trolling and for him to prove it or supply evidence and I then drop the big reality hammer on his thick skull and say clearly that i know all these people are helping him stay on DT and he is helping them.

Then he tries to back track and drops the trolling and wimps out saying...

oh that was not just some joke about people speaking bullshit and claiming it is free speech they can leave nothing to do with trying to make light of the ops claim of free speech simply stating facts about scams getting him silenced with red trust or trying to. I was not saying your posts are bullshit at all this is just a joke...

.I mean yeah cool story qwk.... sounds legit and highly responsible for a DT under the conditions the OP has laid out.

Well also that is funny what did he mean about he will answer the bullshit claim if he feels like it?? what was he even talking about??



Next NOW he is trying to say that I have some condition.

LOL yeah this is very believable qwk. I mean is the condition one that allows me to see through your bullshit and sees your clear motive that your colluding scum bags who keep you on DT1  are being shown as scammer and trust abusers and you want to help keep yourself on DT and not interested in trust abuse or your colluders admitting in black and white they gave me red trust for simply presenting proven facts about scammer and scams? is that the condition you mean ....I mean you have a condition its called sneaky little shit cowardly shit bag condition. I can cure you and I intend to by getting you booted off DT also you scamming dirt bag. If you will allow your colluding DT buddies to admit they give red trust to people for presenting facts regarding scams their friends and them are related to then you too are a scammer. Do you get that dirt bag.

This guy is a fucking moron who makes it worse for himself

Who would even consider believing this nonsense.

Now fuck off you scamming fool and stop wasting my time.

Run to ignore like that other scamming turd suchscamoon. Who is another turd red trusting people for protecting and enabling scams because he says it makes them a scammer too. However now he does it an won't accept he is a scammer... what a hypocrite and scammer by his very own definition.

Are there any real DTs that you could actually trust here at all?

Let's just let the newbies be the DT and merit sources it can't get more corrupt and fucked up than it is already.



Interesting read for later

read about qwks friends here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0


848  Other / Meta / Re: DT1 just admitted he will red tag for providing factual evidence regarding scams on: January 11, 2019, 12:26:01 AM
I did not ask you to come here and call my posts bullshit right?
You did not, and I did not.

The picture you posted says it there clear in black and white have another look.

Do not try and back track.

Dont even try more scare quotes meta freak logic  nonsense on me.

Then also I said prove you bullshit claim you made

You said you will if you feel like it.

So anyway since you are here it seems strange as a DT you have not even looked into the OP and want to focus rather on sending me pics implying my posts are bullshit.

You are not at all interested in DT giving red trust for merely saying stating proven facts relating to scammers and scams.

I guess that is because lauda and you co support each other in DT list.

Fair enough I see your position.

Don;t though come all nice guy pretending to be fair then trying to trash my posts as bullshit with no evidence.

Just help or stay clear of me.


849  Other / Meta / Re: DT1 just admitted he will red tag for providing factual evidence regarding scams on: January 10, 2019, 11:08:33 PM
I have presented you with questions and you ran away on the other thread.
So whenever someone doesn't give you an answer, you assume they're running away?

I have asked you do demonstrate the bullshit you claim with no grounding and you will not.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't.
Solely my discretion, and there's nothing you can do about it.
That's the way life is.

My inclination to answer is not usually helped by strong language, though.

So you say things that you can not validate = dumb turd and a moron.
Non sequitur.

Read it digest it then come back when you have a rebuttal.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

One general rule of internet discussion seems to be in the way, though:
"Don't feed the troll".

I see you support a scammer on DT and they support you. You expect me to believe you are impartial. hahah
I expect you to behave like a sensible human being with respect for other people's opinions.
So far, I fail to see that ability in you, which is reason enough for me to, basically, "don't give a damn".

Now get back to the other thread and answer my questions or hide away.
Your wish is my command.
Oh wait.
It isn't.



That was more like it. Better reply. No more fucking about with people on here. Statements with no facts/evidence, or corroborating events I just tell them how it is . Either avoid me or don't come with snipes and jabs expecting some praise or polite gesture.

Bring me the evidence I talk bullshit and I remove your self inflicted title.

Don't wimp out by saying i am trolling because that actually makes you look more fucking stupid. You can not prove what I am saying is bullshit at all so how to assume it is trolling. LOL what if it is important facts that you just don't want reveal because you will lose DT support from lauda if he is removed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

You term my posts as bullshit without bringing me evidence and you want me to be nice to you? are you for real?

I did not ask you to come here and call my posts bullshit right? you chose to do so with no evidence at all else you would present now.
You did it to protect lauda and this other turd giving me red trust there is no other explanation for this action. Don't dare try to take some moral high ground. You are the bad guy here you are being dishonest calling my posts bullshit with no evidence and clear motive with lauda and you on each others DT. You are not fooling anyone with this dont use strong language.

I await your response. I do respect their opinions if they are not just random shit snipes to distract from the truths I am presenting here.  With strong motive to hide the facts as calling them bullshit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview else you lose lauda and he loses you....

You get that moaning about honest strong language is a trick that people use to look nice and civil and the good guy when often they are the bad guys. I don't fall for that shit. Sorry.

How about I find your threads and start posting you are talking bullshit and should leave? then complain if you use strong language towards me. Get fucking real ..



850  Other / Meta / Re: DT1 just admitted he will red tag for providing factual evidence regarding scams on: January 10, 2019, 10:48:18 PM
Moron prove that I have said anything that is bullshit. I await.

You are looking like a scam enabler and pumper fan and protector  and therefore a scammer so far.

Explain yourself you dumb turd. I want examples of BULLSHIT that i have posted.
Examples highlighted in bold. q.e.d.

Looks fully correct and fact based to me.

I have presented you with questions and you ran away on the other thread.

I have asked you do demonstrate the bullshit you claim I am speaking with no grounding and you will not.

So you say things that you can not validate = dumb turd and a moron.

If you can substantial the claims that you are making that I talk bullshit perhaps I review your status as moronic dumb turd. Until then....

Read it digest it then come back when you have a rebuttal.

I see you support a scammer on DT and they support you. You expect me to believe you are impartial and ready to take some action... yeah okay.

What's with you and lauda and cats... dogs are loyal and smart.... oh yeah stick with cats actually better suited.


Perhaps read the OP again and focus on that you are DT not an obvious scammer and colluder right???
851  Other / Meta / Re: DT1 just admitted he will red tag for providing factual evidence regarding scams on: January 10, 2019, 10:34:47 PM

Moron prove that I have said anything that is bullshit. I await.

You are looking like a scam enabler and pumper fan and protector  and therefore a scammer so far.

Explain yourself you dumb turd. I want examples of BULLSHIT that i have posted.

I expect you will run away like you did from my other thread.

Look at this colluding little prick

DT supporters of qwk

TMAN
Lauda
Blazed
The Pharmacist

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

he is on the lauda support list too.

If you protect or enable scams or scammers you are a scammer yourself.

hmmm I wonder about this one too now. Get them all out. Any scammers scam protectors or enablers must go.


852  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bring Lauda to a Court / Jail on: January 10, 2019, 10:06:29 PM
apparently some say  lauda has done lots of illegal things like extortion and using escrow funds to claim bch unfairly.

Apparently some say the earth was created in six days by a man who sleeps with children.

So?

Strange thing to bring up? I prefer to steer clear of this sort of thing in discussions if possible.

Are you saying that you have information that invalidates the evidence others have presented in regard to both those cases that makes it of no concern for a DT member? or just that you can't see it being relevant for a prison sentence?

Can you give me cliff notes of why this is information should be grouped in with such statements as the one with the strange one you chose to list above??

I mean you are pretty sure then this information should be ignored altogether is that what you are saying?

Or what are you saying because I see you in both lauda threads all of a sudden. Looks like you are trying to protect a proven scam promoter and pumper to me. Are you trying to do that vod?
853  Economy / Reputation / Re: cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers on: January 10, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Brilliant logic (emphasis mine):

Lauda protected the dash captive instamine scam for years after it was proven. He is therefore  a confirmed scammer according this.
Now suchmoon protects suchmoon and therefore is a scammer.

You can't see how that works?

Lauda and suchmoon are scammers.

Typical suchmoon tries to doge the point.

Here dumb ass replace the 2nd suchmoon with lauda. Sorry you could not work that out alone.

Seems just like you trying to change your definition.

I await this twisting and turning and excuses.... hahaha

I am pushing this definition of a scammer we both agree on very hard and I see no comeback.

I wonder all the pms going back and forth findng excuses and trying to get out what they have previously posted. lol
854  Other / Meta / Re: Trolling let's define it here and also vote on if it should be given RED TRUST on: January 10, 2019, 09:29:22 PM
only 2 perspective of whether you are on my side or on the "gang's" side.


sometimes there has to only black and white = only 2 perspectives. you have raise your voice so that people start thinking about things.
but after that you have to calm down and try to listen and to talk with each other.

I agree.

There is the truth and there is lies. There is no let's meet in the middle and make a middle ground.

Some things are beyond absolute proof but if there is highly powerful corroborating evidence then that is enough that must still be taken very seriously.

Of course always civil discussion if they will allow it but no point just keep being nice to people that do everything they can to be openly hostile to you first.
855  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bring Lauda to a Court / Jail on: January 10, 2019, 09:24:58 PM
And this is the best defense you can do?
Hello, this is not a scam,    I can bring you to a small court for this topic
Threatening for a lawsuit without even any proof that you really have an airdrop for your token. Your act is really trashy as you just have ran out of words to say, you are just a typical defenseless scammer hoping some miracle. Do me a favor instead of going to a lawyer why not file your statement to the cops so that you are the one facing criminal charges.


He promise to give payment in exchange for subscribers, you can't go to jail for that, its not even illegal I think, there is no contract, no one lose money


Yes its not illegal because he doesnt create  any  website or ask for information, a lot of people are doing that with CPA
Op you cannot  sue Lauda if he didn't do anything illegal,  give   red trust isn't illegal  


apparently some say  lauda has done lots of illegal things like extortion and using escrow funds to claim bch unfairly.

even if no prison as yet good to let others know what lauda is like.
856  Other / Meta / Re: Please stop make new topic regarding "DT" complain until Monday. on: January 10, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
cryptohunter has been going off ever since DT system changed.

It's kind of interesting seeing all the comments and replies he makes to every thread insulting Lauda.

Doesn't DT list change every month anyways? You can always include and not include people in your trust network so I really don't see the problem.
Do you find it interesting that they are facts and lauda can not even dare dispute them
I don't really have a opinion on it. Personally I just don't trust Lauda in general which is why I have him/her discluded from my trust list.

Though I'm surprised that your replies aren't getting deleted, shows how open this forum is.

ERR you don't have an opinion on proven scammers giving red trust to scam hunters and those warning of scams with facts?

Are you sure?

or do I not understand what you mean? surely you can see that is not what DT is for. It is mean for scam hunters to red trust scammers and scam pumpers/protectors. This is the reverse.

why would facts get deleted? the forum is not corrupt fully, these system controllers are not admin level ...yet.
857  Other / Meta / Re: Please stop make new topic regarding "DT" complain until Monday. on: January 10, 2019, 08:56:51 PM
cryptohunter has been going off ever since DT system changed.

It's kind of interesting seeing all the comments and replies he makes to every thread insulting Lauda.

Doesn't DT list change every month anyways? You can always include and not include people in your trust network so I really don't see the problem.



Do you find it interesting that they are facts and lauda can not even dare dispute them.

In 2014 he was a scum bag then battling with me over proven scams. He is turn coat scam promoting scumbag and trust me the pharmacist is not much better. How do i know.......because i was there and it is all documented.

He has red trusted me for threatening to present facts about his past. That is the opposite of what DT is for.

Do you see that DT is there to warn people about scams and scammers not be used to red trust people who are scam hunters and warn of scams and scammers.

Now we see tman and owlcatz ( ALL 3 LAUDA, OWLCATZ  TMAN)  implicated in a extortion scam.  Have added trust and one has told me he has given me red trust for producing facts about Lauda. So he has admitted it in public.

What? you can change your list but 99.99% of the board don't even understand how to make lists. They will see the red trust. You need to understand how the trust system works
858  Economy / Reputation / Re: Justice to ME as a victim of Lauda on: January 10, 2019, 08:48:33 PM
See how they make fun of this situation.

This is a shame of humanity, as always, doesn't matter who is right, what matters is who is green.

Thank you "cryptohunter" for leaving a comment, yes it seems like the number one sheep is TMAN.

I thought maybe one humankind on the administration can see it but I must be wrong, wasted my time for nothing. Poor me.


They are assholes , and theymos supports them.

Their is no justice in these forums, no appeals process for when lauda and her band of bitches slander you.

I know you were wronged by those assholes , but like you , we have no power in this corrupt design of theymos.

The clear course is becoming , just to leave these shit forums forever and let them die from lack of advertising.
Be sure and tell everyone you know in the real world , how corrupt bitcoin and it forums are.
That is my new approach.

Good Luck to you.

 Cool

FYI:
It is no coincidence that the markets are crashing, not long after theymos brings lauda back.
BitcoinTalk like Bitcoin is now dying. As it is so unfair to others, it should die.

I don't think theymos support them that much because if you look here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

it seems theymos does not have them on his list

actually he have only the DT that actually voted lauda OFF DT

sadly the gang of colluding scum have over powered his votes and are running DT now.

I agree theymos should remove these proven scammers and bullies. I blame more the other DT who are not essentially scammers but pussies scared of the gang - lauda, the pharmacist , suchmoon, tman, owlcatz these are the people pulling off ognasty and hostfat who theymos support.

Strange though theymos did not realise that the new algo will pull off the only 2 person that had some balls to fuck that scammer lauda up in the past.  I hope he can fix this.


These scum lauda, the pharmacist , suchmoon, tman, owlcatz  need actually a ban at at once.

suchmoon is a scammer now by his own diagnosis.... he says anyone protecting, enabling or promoting scams or scammers is a scammer. He knows lauda was a scam promoter and protector for years, he now enables and protects lauda on DT .... boom he is scammer and a hypocrite.

sniveling little snitcher that he is .... actually all of them trying to silence free speech by weaselling on dt and merit source....

True theymos has been caught snoozing by these devious weasels .... but I do not think he will allow them to crush free speech and his new algo will help long term.

But the scum bags must be kicked out and get ognasty and hostfat back at once. You need DT with some balls to stand up to gangs. Some DT may not be scammers but a big bunch of scared pussies.
859  Other / Meta / Re: I don't understand the purpose of the trust system here. on: January 10, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
Since this forum is Bitcoin/crypto related so lot of trade, exchange and earning and business are happening here. Even sell goods is possible here. So trust system really help this forum reduce scam. By implement new trust system DT will be more active and power abuse will reduce as well. For me new trust network is working fine. Hope few more reputed user will add on DT list by Monday.  Especially I am happy to see new DT1 list. I was made a post about inactive DT. So I believe current DT1 are active according to theymos rules and DT2 as well. I am fully agree with selection of DT1.


Usually once something implement new rules few people will against it and few peoples will accept it. Even on real life, if government make any new rules then few peoples are start make sound against it. But after few days everything become normal. So few user here posting lot of post about new system, let them do it. After a week everything will normal.

WRONG

This is not going to happen.

Proven scammers and scam pumpers can not be left on DT

DT members can not say they will can and have red trusted people for presenting facts about scams.

ALL DT BACKING SCAMMERS AND RED TRUSTERS OF FACT BASED POSTS MUST BE REMOVED
860  Other / Meta / Re: Please stop make new topic regarding "DT" complain until Monday. on: January 10, 2019, 08:37:00 PM
You ask people to stop creating threads about the DT, but you do it yourself.

Quote
are full by shit post

Including this thread too so, right?

Can we stop trolling also ?

Define trolling so we know what you are referring to and present an example

Too many subjective ideas of trolling suffocating the presentation of facts lately.
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