Hmm, no. As I said above, you can use the money - but only in sites that accept Neteller directly (and not just the MasterCard). So, you can use it in sites like Betfair, for example, as well as a few other gambling related sites, and games... which still sucks, unfortunately.

And technically, there should be a few ways around this limitation, like: depositing via Bitcoin, sending the funds to another user, and then withdrawing; or, depositing via Bitcoin, then sending it to a site (Betfair, for example), playing around with it for a while, and then moving it to Neteller again, and withdrawing - I imagine they have no reason to deny the withdrawal then, though I haven't really tried it.

Hmm, à primeira vista, isso lembra-me o MarketGlory, mas com melhores gráficos, e menos competição - para já, pelo menos, uma vez que ainda só tem +-600 jogadores.

Mas parece interessante o jogo. Obrigado pelo link. Sou capaz de me registar como teu referido mais logo (tenho primeiro de terminar aqui umas coisas).

EDIT: Okay, já tens mais um referido. Como é que fico rico agora?

Well, there is the anonymity problem, no doubt; but as far as fees go, I think you wouldn't have much of a problem: their Net+ MasterCard has no usage, or monthly/annual fees (at least none that I've seen so far), and the Bitcoin deposits supposedly have no fees either (from Neteller's part - I'm not sure about what rates they might be using though, so there could be some small hidden fees in there somewhere, I guess).

As to where you would be able to use Neteller + Bitcoin (assuming they didn't have the silly restriction I mentioned above), you would be able to use it anywhere that accepts MasterCard, either online, or IRL - with the restriction, you're limited to using it in the few gambling sites that they deal with.

Hmm, going by the date registered, if you have posted in every activity period (at least once every 2 weeks), that account has the potential activity to be a Hero Member now - or at least, once it reaches 480 posts. Are you sure you want to sell the account as a mere Senior Member?

Actually, I think you're missing something there (or I missed some recent news): although Neteller accepts Bitcoin deposits now, it doesn't allow you to make use of those funds alongside their cards (be it the physical or the virtual cards). What this effectively means is that you're limited to using those funds in the gambling sites (and little more) that accept Neteller.

Interestingly enough, when they first announced Bitcoin deposits, they did allow free use of those funds; but that was changed soon after - I'm not sure why though.


EDIT: apparently, MasterCard told them to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32wuez/neteller_disables_bitcoin_topup_for_their_net. Also, notice the following in http://www.neteller.com/pp/bitcoin:

Snakes are able to retain some reflexes after their death, including biting and envenoming whatever is unfortunate enough to come near / stimulate the wrong nerves. And apparently, this can occur even hours after their death.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/aug/15/decapitated-copperhead-snake-bites-itself-video

http://www.livescience.com/47626-severed-snake-head-can-still-bite.html

I think it would really have to be Lightning Chess for people to have trouble using bots.

But no, that wouldn't work either - not only would players still use some form of bot to copy moves directly to their chess engine (without the need for human intervention), but the computer program would still be better than the human players, despite the time constraints.

I haven't read anything pointing in the direction that the game developers themselves cheat like that (though I have not been following the game since last year, when I stopped playing); however, it was known at the time that a few players (most likely, early investors that had spent some thousands of Euros in the game) had made specials deals, and received some advantages as a result: for example, first pick at the islands (the non-starting countries you can later join); possibly receiving players who joined the game without referral links; and a few other things.

Both Windows and Linux - well, not so much Linux recently, I'm afraid.

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Have you tried Linux Mint? I also used to have Ubuntu installed, but switched to Mint a few years ago - if nothing else, it seems far less heavy to me.

Perhaps you mean this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114433? But, it's not that there is a risk of hacking; rather, the problem is that it's very easy to cheat at online chess (and even in tournaments, as we found out earlier this year) with recent chess engines, since they are so much better than human players.

Also, is this the right sub-forum for this thread?

Interesting. I read about Minecraft servers that regularly paid players as they mined previously unexplored areas and such, but wasn't aware of any that integrated bitcoin directly quite like that - what servers are those? I may have to take a look at them (and I blame you for all the time I'm going to waste doing so).

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I'm not sure this fits into what you're looking for tarsua, but what about a site that allows you to play chess for bitcoins? Here is their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114433; and their site: chess4coin.com - it's still under development, however.

Hmm, yes, the term "chess bot" might seem to be a bit misleading; although to be fair, it's still accurate: chess programs aren't endowing the computer with any greater understanding of how chess is played - it's still mostly an automation task, where the computer is using brute force to check all the possible outcomes in any given situation (access to typical opening and closing moves doesn't change this; they're just another tool).

But more importantly, as I previously alluded to, and as Revelation Machine (now that's an original nickname ) pointed out as well, you don't really need strong hardware, or any other elaborate schemes, in order to have an already (close to) unbeatable computer opponent; a simple smart phone will do nowadays - in other words, anyone has access to them.

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I'm not sure if increasing the difficulty of signing up, and other such measures, is a good idea - they might end up making the site less useable, while not really stopping players from using their favorite chess program to cheat. But, perhaps analyzing player moves as you mentioned, maybe along the lines of what XinXan previously suggested, might help somewhat.

I think you're missing the point alani123. The idea isn't that chess is a simple and trivial game, for which a computer can easily come up with a perfect strategy; the idea is that a computer is much better at searching for the ideal course of action, many moves in advance, when compared to a human - even when compared to someone at a grandmaster level, let alone a casual player on the internet. In fact, we're now at a point that even a handheld device, a simple mobile phone, equipped with the latest chess engine, can outperform human players in chess tournaments.

But don't take my word for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human-computer_chess_matches.

Edit: seems jambola2 beat me to it.

Hmm, I imagine it will depend on the specific chess program, but some will have a difficulty "level" you can set; however, what this usually translates to (and what you will likely have in all, or almost all chess engines) is how much time you're giving a computer to choose its move, how many moves ahead it will be allowed to look, whether it has a list of all typical opening moves and ending moves, and a few other options. So, you can definitely play against a beatable computer opponent if you want to.

Well then, I guess that creates another market opportunity: figure out what bot/program a player is using, and design one to counter it (or download one, if you can't be bothered). In the end, you might end up with a programming competition, rather than a chess match.

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Tell that to Kasparov - where have you been these last 20 years?

Chess is a perfect information game (that is, a game where both players have full knowledge of the complete state of the game), with relatively few movement options - perfect for computers to play, and win, against humans. Furthermore, their capabilities only improve with each passing year, alongside processing power and changes in programming techniques.

That's easy - just go to the Google Images search page, and drag the picture you want to search for into it; a new message box opens up, and as soon as you drop the image there, it starts the search by itself. This does not work however, if you have NoScript blocking Google, or are running your browser within certain sandboxes and try to move an image there.

Are you sure we can take the exposure?

I would also like to re-enroll in the campaign.

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It could also be the case that the account is already hacked, and UnrealBeast is trying to get rid of it before the owner recovers it. I'm sorry UnrealBeast, but even without your negative trust rating, that is suspicious.

Unfortunately, sentencing people to death for the stupidest reasons has never been a deterrent to foreign capital and investment - just look at Saudi Arabia, for example. The real deterrent comes only when the country/government isn't willing to play ball with the investor's interests.