obama doesnt threaten shit, america is israel's dog
This. American wouldn't attack the guy who owns them.. The fuckfaces who owns the fed reserve is the US puppet master how the fuck are they supposed to get out of this? Why can't we all just use bitcoin and get along  But America wouldn't do anything against Israel. How long have Palestinians been getting murdered by the Israeli army, with America doing nothing but saying it could possibly be unjust but we'll back them anyways. Whatever Israel says, goes The problem there is you're assuming the US actually cares about murder, oppression, or any of the other things that get blamed on whomever the West doesn't like at the moment. The US doesn't do anything when Israel oppresses the Palestinians, as it didn't do anything about South African Apartheid, or the Indonesian occupation of East Timor (which left maybe a couple hundred thousand dead) - but it didn't do anything in these cases, not because Afrikaners, or Indonesians were secretly in control of Washington, but rather because it was profitable to keep the status quo; as soon as that changed, the policy changed as well. I've recently replied to something similar to this in another thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977059), and in somewhat more detail, so allow me to re-post that here: If I were him I'd just stop shelling Gaza and allow both nations to exist without a constant threat of getting their house blown up. Somebody here has to stop being a stubborn kid.
I am sure the US can exert sufficient pressure on Israel to smoke the peace pipe. The question is, will the Jewish lobby allow them to? I agree that the US can certainly influence Israel to go in that direction, but I wouldn't overestimate the power AIPAC holds over Washington - they have some influence, sure, but are dwarfed by the business lobbies and other powerful groups. The way I see it, part of the problem is the Palestinians simply play no important role, as far as US policy is concerned, and as far as US businesses are concerned; whether the Palestinians disappear, or some sort of peaceful accommodation is reached in the region, is of little consequence to them - on the other hand, business and military cooperation with Israel is already extensive, so either US and Israeli objectives tend to coincide, or Israel does as it pleases in affairs the US has no real interest in ...
... until someone goes and does something stupid. After Netanyahu's controversial speech last week, now it's the GOP's turn: 47 Republican Congress members submitted an open letter to Ayatollah Khamenei trying to sabota... I mean, enlighten the Iranian leadership on how the United States' constitutional system works, and how that will affect the ongoing negotiations regarding the nuclear deal. And I must say, it really is kind of backwards of the Iranian leadership not to realize how things get done in Washington: you just have to bribe - sorry - contribute to the campaigns of the right people, and everything will go smoothly - and it's pretty cheap too.  The story, as covered by TyT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JGY7g-l39A ("GOP Leaders Betray Our Country By Writing Letter to Iran", 10m36s); and TRNN: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=13383 ("An Open Letter to the Ayatollah from Republicans", 10m08s) |
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The way I see it, these sanctions aren't really a precursor to war, but rather, an attempt to further destabilize the country and find divisions in the armed forces, so that a government more subservient to US interests can seize power; further to that, and considering the timing, it's probably also an attempt to play the improvement of US - Cuba relations against Venezuela. So, in short, the usual story of US meddling in South America, though fortunately for the people of the region, coming from a US that is far less influential than what it was in previous decades. |
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Have you considered using Payza ( https://www.payza.com) to sell your coins instead? Last I checked, their fees were pretty decent, and it isn't much of a hassle while selling (buying is another story) - though you do need to have a verified account, I think. If you still want to proceed with Paypal/Skrill, make sure to deal only with users with a good reputation and many successful trades, due to the risk of chargebacks. |
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Meddling with other countries is often a precursor to war. (ie. Sanctions against Japan and the aiding of their enemies were the precursors for their attack on Pearl Harbor.) Notwithstanding this regime change, it's been more than few decades since the United States first imposed sanctions against Iran, following the Iranian Revolution of 1979, and expanded them in 1995 to include firms dealing with the Iranian government.
[In 1997, 'The Project for the New American Century' (PNAC) released a "Statement of Principles", which has been called a "secret blueprint for US global domination". In it, they expressed a desire to initiate wars with a list of (Persian Gulf) nations, beginning with Iraq (although the "War on Terror" officially began with Afghanistan) and (I'm fairly certain it included) finally ending with Iran.]
Oh, I completely agree: the US never stopped meddling in the affairs of Iran, and just about every other country in the region. And before them, the British and the Russians were doing much the same thing, especially after oil was found. Which is, sort of, understandable in a sense: it's an energy rich area, the control of which will grant a great deal of influence and control over world affairs - too bad for the people who actually live there; it's "our" oil, after all, not theirs. But as far as actually attacking Iran, I think all but the most extreme hawks have realized how disastrous that could turn out to be, and how little support for it there is. They'll go along with sanctions and the usual sabre-rattling, but I doubt they'll move beyond that - and even Netanyahu, as crazy as he is, knows what the limits the US imposes are, and doesn't tread very far. |
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US President Barack Obama threatened to take military action against Israel not to let Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strike Iran. Netanyahu was planning airstrikes at an emergency meeting with Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Chief of Staff of the Israeli army Benny Gantz, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarîda said. The meeting was held after it became known that Barack Obama’s administration and the clergy of Iran had concluded a secret agreement. Israel even conducted test flights of its fighter jets in the airspace of Iran after it became possible to overcome the radar protection. However, US Secretary of State John Kerry disclosed Netanyahu’s plans. Afterwards, Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli planes on their way to Iran. As a result, the Israeli Prime Minister had to curtail the operation. The relationship between Israel and the United States have been worsening since then. More... http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/03/10/obama-threatens-war-on-israel-if-it-attacks-iran/This ought to get the neocons and Israeli-firsters out in full bunch. Personally, I very much doubt this actually took place: not only is there no official recognition of this ever happening, from either side, but the only source seems to be a Kuwaiti paper, Al-Jarida - neocons and Israeli-firsters might want to wait for more reliable sources before getting the torches and pitchforks out.
What kind of friend would do such a thing?! The US has been planning and preparing for war against Iran for over half a century. Israel can't just come along now and mess up all that hard work! Well, not for over half a century; at about that time they were busy getting rid of their democratically elected government and installing a Western friendly dictator in power. |
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If I were him I'd just stop shelling Gaza and allow both nations to exist without a constant threat of getting their house blown up. Somebody here has to stop being a stubborn kid.
I am sure the US can exert sufficient pressure on Israel to smoke the peace pipe. The question is, will the Jewish lobby allow them to? I agree that the US can certainly influence Israel to go in that direction, but I wouldn't overestimate the power AIPAC holds over Washington - they have some influence, sure, but are dwarfed by the business lobbies and other powerful groups. The way I see it, part of the problem is the Palestinians simply play no important role, as far as US policy is concerned, and as far as US businesses are concerned; whether the Palestinians disappear, or some sort of peaceful accommodation is reached in the region, is of little consequence to them - on the other hand, business and military cooperation with Israel is already extensive, so either US and Israeli objectives tend to coincide, or Israel does as it pleases in affairs the US has no real interest in ...
... until someone goes and does something stupid. After Netanyahu's controversial speech last week, now it's the GOP's turn: 47 Republican Congress members submitted an open letter to Ayatollah Khamenei trying to sabota... I mean, enlighten the Iranian leadership on how the United States' constitutional system works, and how that will affect the ongoing negotiations regarding the nuclear deal. And I must say, it really is kind of backwards of the Iranian leadership not to realize how things get done in Washington: you just have to bribe - sorry - contribute to the campaigns of the right people, and everything will go smoothly - and it's pretty cheap too. The story, as covered by TyT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JGY7g-l39A ("GOP Leaders Betray Our Country By Writing Letter to Iran", 10m36s); and TRNN: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=13383 ("An Open Letter to the Ayatollah from Republicans", 10m08s) |
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nato warships hold drills in black sea near Russian vessels
rt.com/news/239377-nato-drills-black-sea/
The article you posted doesn't seem to mention the exercises as having been conducted in the vicinity of Russian vessels - only that they occurred in the Black Sea. But, I'm sure that if an "accident" were to happen in said exercises, they would be quick to use it to further the usual propaganda.
Putin knows Russia cant sustain a world war right now so hes going to keep what territory he gains from Ukraine and back down for a while until he finds his next victim like hitler.
Really? Did you have to go and prove Godwin's Law? Close the thread! EDIT: Oh, I see it has already been proven several times in this thread alone - carry on then. |
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It was a joke, good grief.
You said you weren't a fascist pig, so I said denied.
LOL. I didn't even get that one.  It might have been related to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982509.0 ("badbear is a fascist pig", by .why) - I guess KaChingCoinDev just wouldn't fit in.  |
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exodus is always the best resort for the pious, as long as an exodus gateway is possible do it, why? then it will be the best of the best in the last spot? who come? don't worry life is just a pathetic attempt at immortaility. ay ay ay.... morte este el Victoria. In the last standing there is only death.
I was hoping for a solution that wouldn't involve more people being forced out of their homes and livelihoods, or more deaths - don't you share that hope at all? |
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 "Didn't you mean colorful questions?" Why must you scare us and possibly give us nightmares of the most evil things in the universe? Don't you mean, "why must you scar us"?  |
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if said people, those on the opposing side, wants to kill, jail for life or harvest family and loved one of those that in isreal that just want to do what I describe, go Tsahal, send them to death, nuke, frag, what ever, until there is only silence, their mothers, their father, grand old and young to death. sorry. you know the laws. plant of the creation ie before man, plant stays, if you oppose you go, no sorry no mercy. enjoy the dying process.
edit: it's purim, who are you?
Don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying the Palestinians are without blame. But when you have been under occupation for half a century; are constantly oppressed by the occupiers; have your land periodically stolen; risk death if you dare trying to oppose it; and have no prospects of a peaceful solution to your problems, as Israel refuses both the one state solution and the two state solution, and as you can usually see in Netanyahu's rhetoric, offers no alternative; it might then come as no surprise violence is the last resort. You don't have to like them, or agree with their views, but should at least try to understand where they are coming from - there is no other way for there to be peace: both sides need to accept and address the others' concerns. Edit: by the way, as you might have noticed, the ancient Persian Empire no longer exists - if you know what I mean. |
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for me, MENA whole fucked mess. sorry. where can I smoke weed in peace, without disturbing any children in his life? Isreal. end. try to smoke a plant of the creation anywhere else in the full mena? death or jail life time. no way. bye. go isreal. nuke them. sorry, why? jail life time? are you nuts, nuke more powa, jews reasonable, why? many jews, fanatics to gays, love it, peace among all, don't want? met wolf, be guinea pig, yes, you wife, children, grand mother... don't like? can I smoke weed? no,... ok, enjoy. game on. soooorrry. plant of the creation = you = no right = surrender or die= ready? the game of life. the plant will survive. we are there, s: the cartels. edit: cartel, useless, protectors of biodiversity on earth using all necessary means, backed by life, even leaf will tell the truth. aware, you should. enjoy. hf. (only my Russian and few of usmiic can get it there  ). Oh boy - BitMos, you really shouldn't post on the forum while high. Anyway: no, Israel (or anyone else for that matter) doesn't have the right to "nuke", steal land from, or in any way attack or oppress others by virtue of being culturally closer to our Western tastes and, for the most part, following US instructions in its struggle to control the region. That isn't to say oppressive governments shouldn't be challenged and changed however; but that is something that has to be done internally, by the people themselves, and in the direction the population wants. |
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If I were him I'd just stop shelling Gaza and allow both nations to exist without a constant threat of getting their house blown up. Somebody here has to stop being a stubborn kid.
Amen. But that wont happen because people love religion and war and money, all 3 are involved here so you do the math They will not resolve their conflict, and no one knows "who is in fault and who is not in fault". Their situation is realy bad and complicated. I hope they will be able "one day" to discuss and lay down the arms. I'm not sure "who is in fault and who is not in fault" is the best way to go about it - it's not like either the Palestinians or the Israelis are just going to pack up and leave, if one side is said to be at fault. What is important to the people living there however, is what measures they are willing to take to integrate with one another. In this sense, I don't see it as the intractable situation it is often portrayed to be. That said, Netanyahu's constant fear-mongering and unwillingness to pursue peaceful alternatives, both in dealing with the Palestinians and with Iran, is a problem. Worse still, it seems to me that his government has been steadily moving further to the right; so much so in fact, that in some ways it's even starting to alienate the US (the US being in no way a neutral party in this whole affair) - let's hope this changes with the coming elections. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: if they continue down this path, Israel will be completely isolated in a few years. |
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[...] Also, today I get to learn if guys at 55 can still masturbate. I've heard rumors, but now get to test the theory firsthand, secondhand, firsthand...
Happy birthday! Have fun today - and not just by masturbating all day long. |
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Hmm, are there open slots for new members? If so, I would like to join as a Hero Member:
Bitcoin Address: 1KnRA3dbGsAV8cw64sckjFz6uAEXJf2JCo
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Got it! Post deleted(mods might think I'm spamming: ). Thanks! BTW, congrats for becoming HM. -MZ Thanks. On to the Legendary Member rank now - or in a year, or two. |
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What you said above is true except negative trust. I can't see a single negative trust on OldScammerTag's profile. I think you though the 'Sent' feedback are on that profile. -MZ I think you misread my post: I wasn't suggesting the OldScammerTag account was marked with negative trust - that would make no sense in the context of my reply. Rather, what I said was that, that is an admin-managed account, and that it was tasked with marking those who used to have the Scammer Tag with negative trust, now that the Tag is gone. |
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 It is really upsetting that scammers don't get banned and are allowed roam free. Look at moriartybitcoin. I know right , I don't even see the "Scammer" red things under the username which should be given , I only see the coins like with every member . wondering what it takes to give them tho . ~ Madness Hmm, do you mean, the old Scammer Tag - the 5(?) red Xs that used to replace the coins in known scammers? That system was removed some 10 months ago, in favor of the Trust system we have today. So, not only are they not given out anymore, but even old accounts that used to have them no longer do - instead, the admin-controlled OldScammerTag account has marked them with negative trust ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=330472). |
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15 hours and 28 minutes.
Banned for being a dictator - oh, wait, wrong thread... Hmm, 79 days and 11 hours for me. |
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