Cricket match prediction discussions

[Vaskiy]

I don't think that they are in for the profits. They want to make Saudi Arabia a global sports destination (similar to what they have done in boxing, football and golf). Under the new king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) they have relaxed a lot of their strict religious laws, and have made the country more appealing for the foreigners. But I don't know how this tournament can become successful without the Indian players. India generates >90% of the income in cricket, and without the Indian players this league will end up in losses. Also, the viewership will be lower without Indian interest.

I think Saudi Arabia doesn't pay much attention to earning money. They are very enthusiastic about spending money. If they want to substitute cricket league for profit then they will fail. But I think they are planning something to introduce their country to the world.
They must be going through a long planning process. They are widely known in football. Also they want to do something that can take their country to another level globally. They are the ones who consistently keep an eye on cricket. To be honest I think big cricketers can join there if the money is spent. However, no cricket league is complete without Indian cricketers and that's why IPL is the best.

They have certainly made their country a destination for foreigners. A lot of people think that they are still earning money by selling oil. One thing I can say for sure is that they don’t have the type of oil right now that they had once. They have certainly made a fortune by selling oil. But now they have made the country, so representative throughout the whole world that everyone wants to be a citizen of their country.

Now they are trying to make almost every sport popular by keeping their country in the conversation. I don’t think they are trying to improve their own team so much. And that is why I think they are in this for the money. But it is absolutely certain that without Indian players, they are not going to generate good enough revenue.

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

[Patrol69]

MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL. 

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more. 
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

[LDL]

MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL. 

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more. 
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

There is no end to the diversity of laws in cricket, this time there is a combination of multiple legal diversity in IPL. Slow over rating means if the over is not completed within the specified time, the entire team including the captain is penalized and the captain has to pay a fine of 30 percent of the match fee. Now that method is not after the match but during the match the penalty should be calculated. If the over is not completed within the specified time, the fielder must be fielded within 30 yards with one player less. This is the penalty for slow over rating during the match. It is still unknown to me whether the captaincy will be subject to a ban for the next match if multiple mistakes are made in a row.

[Sithara007]

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

The current king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) is quite intelligent and he has realized that it will be impossible for Saudi Arabia to survive on oil revenues alone in the long term. That is why he is trying to diversify the economy. And unlike Qatar, Saudi Arabia is not exactly swimming in wads of money. They do have a large population of natives to take care of. Qatar has only 300,000 citizens, while KSA as per the latest census is home to 25 million natives. That explains why Saudi Arabia is more accommodative of the outside culture when compared to Qatar. But only time will tell whether their big plans will get realized or not.

[Juggy777]

MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL. 

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more. 
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

There is no end to the diversity of laws in cricket, this time there is a combination of multiple legal diversity in IPL. Slow over rating means if the over is not completed within the specified time, the entire team including the captain is penalized and the captain has to pay a fine of 30 percent of the match fee. Now that method is not after the match but during the match the penalty should be calculated. If the over is not completed within the specified time, the fielder must be fielded within 30 yards with one player less. This is the penalty for slow over rating during the match. It is still unknown to me whether the captaincy will be subject to a ban for the next match if multiple mistakes are made in a row.

@Patrol69 it’ll be a clever move because the new captain will only be there for formality, because we all know that MSD will be taking all the decisions on the field. Furthermore I’m baffled as to why are CSK bowler’s doing this, and it reminds me of the previous match fixing scandals which rocked the IPL hopefully I’m wrong and the bowler’s aren’t doing this on purpose.

[BobK71]

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

It can be said that Saudi Arabia is starting to make proper use of its natural resources. So far they have not taken any big initiative. Despite being financially prosperous, they did not see any such action. But now they have learned to realize that not only depend on natural resources. They are now competing with the big countries of the world. As a result of their revolutionary steps, we are witnessing major changes in the working environment today. Since money plays a very important role for the success of every work, Saudi Arabia may be successful.

[Sithara007]

There is a statement from Marizanne Kapp regarding the performance of some of the associate players in the recently concluded FairBreak Invitational tournament (second edition):

https://scroll.in/field/1047139/cricket-marizanne-kapp-on-how-associate-players-are-standing-out-at-fairbreak-invitational

This year's edition witnessed 6 teams taking part in the tournament, with a majority of the players hailing from associate nations. The BCCI as usual, banned it's players from taking part. The matches were held in Hong Kong, and in the final match Warriors defeated Falcons by 94 runs. Hayley Matthews was the player of the match, for scoring 123.

[Marvell1]

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.
More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

I actually have a little negative take about this. I did not like them relaxing the rules just for Western people to visit their country. If you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing.
We have seen in the past that they have stood very strong about their rules and regulations. I would have liked for them to stay that way. But it is also understandable why they did this.

The current king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) is quite intelligent and he has realized that it will be impossible for Saudi Arabia to survive on oil revenues alone in the long term. That is why he is trying to diversify the economy. And unlike Qatar, Saudi Arabia is not exactly swimming in wads of money. They do have a large population of natives to take care of. Qatar has only 300,000 citizens, while KSA as per the latest census is home to 25 million natives. That explains why Saudi Arabia is more accommodative of the outside culture when compared to Qatar. But only time will tell whether their big plans will get realized or not.

They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.

[eaLiTy]

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MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL. 

Are you saying that the IPL will penalize Ms Dhoni and may force him to sit outside for slow over rate ? or are you saying that CSK will be dropping MS Dhoni as their captain permanently because of the bowlers he has. Either way, Ms Dhoni has a huge fan base in Chennai and i really doubt they would force him to sit out due to slow over rate as it will irritate the fans as we all want to see him bat and in his last few years of his Cricketing career.

[Sithara007]

They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.

Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

[aryana42]

There is a statement from Marizanne Kapp regarding the performance of some of the associate players in the recently concluded FairBreak Invitational tournament (second edition):
https://scroll.in/field/1047139/cricket-marizanne-kapp-on-how-associate-players-are-standing-out-at-fairbreak-invitational

This year's edition witnessed 6 teams taking part in the tournament, with a majority of the players hailing from associate nations. The BCCI as usual, banned it's players from taking part. The matches were held in Hong Kong, and in the final match Warriors defeated Falcons by 94 runs. Hayley Matthews was the player of the match, for scoring 123.

This is a good thing for the associate nations players, in my opinion. They will be able to improve their performance and also use that experience when they play for their home country.

Of course, BCCI is going to ban their players from taking part in various tournaments that does not make them money directly. That’s because they think of themselves as some premium product that everyone has to buy to see.

[Marvell1]

They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.

Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.

But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.

[romero121]

They are always going to be a very important country economically in the whole world. We all know that the big countries all around the world are always buying oil from them. And previously that’s why they have always been very important economically. But now as they have made the country open to visit for people all around the world, they are also earning money in that way.

Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.

But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.

When it comes to cricket, India is the biggest market. The success of IPL is through the population that goes behind cricket same as that we see western population going behind football. Without India, rest of the Asian countries will give hands. Even with India, it is mentioned that the current players won't be allowed play on the league. Maybe the players who had played for India in the past can get good opportunity. This is completely a commercial initiative from the government, maybe that's the reason why Indian players were denied.

[Marvell1]

Honestly, I don’t think this much money being spent on cricket is actually justifiable when Indian players are not playing in the tournament. We know that Indian players are the ones who bring the most amount of revenue for cricket right now. So it is probably not the best idea to exclude Indian players from a tournament where a lot of money like this is going to be spent.
But on the other hand, if this is successful, it is also going to be a reality check for the Indian cricket board.

When it comes to cricket, India is the biggest market. The success of IPL is through the population that goes behind cricket same as that we see western population going behind football. Without India, rest of the Asian countries will give hands. Even with India, it is mentioned that the current players won't be allowed play on the league. Maybe the players who had played for India in the past can get good opportunity. This is completely a commercial initiative from the government, maybe that's the reason why Indian players were denied.

I am quite sure that the players who will actually go oppose the order of BCCI and try to play in these types of leagues, will not have any chance to play for India, or even in the IPL. Because that is not in the best interest of the BCCI at all. They always think that they are the best and they provide the best show for everyone. And they want to keep things that way.

I absolutely understand why, India thinks of doing that. But on the other hand, the player pool of India is really big. The players who are currently not actively playing in any Indian tournament, namely, IPL, or the national team, should be given a chance to play in other leagues in my opinion. But that also raises the question that probably the leagues are not interested in them actually.

[WatChe]

Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

There is cricket in other countries also apart from India and there are leagues running successfully without Indian players. Already there are rumors that Saudi Arabia's cricket league plan could ruin India's IPL party. We need to see final plan of that cricket league before making a conclusion that it will be in profit or loss. This league if held will be beneficial for Pakistani players that are banned from participating in IPL. In fact it will help in breaking monoply of BCCI. 
I always wonder what will happen to billions of dollars that are earned by KSA due to Oil export but are residing in USA banks?

[romero121]

Crude oil consumption has reached a peak and now the exports from Saudi Arabia are declining. The prices are struggling in the $80-$90 per barrel range, and this is despite all the production cuts being implemented by the OPEC+. Saudis are more intelligent when compared to some of their neighboring states. They don't have any other natural resources apart from oil, and they know that they will be in trouble once the EVs replace gasoline and diesel driven vehicles. But then the question arises. Can this big spending on cricket be justified? Without the Indian players, I don't know how they are going to make any sort of profits.

There is cricket in other countries also apart from India and there are leagues running successfully without Indian players. Already there are rumors that Saudi Arabia's cricket league plan could ruin India's IPL party. We need to see final plan of that cricket league before making a conclusion that it will be in profit or loss. This league if held will be beneficial for Pakistani players that are banned from participating in IPL. In fact it will help in breaking monoply of BCCI. 
I always wonder what will happen to billions of dollars that are earned by KSA due to Oil export but are residing in USA banks?

We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

[WatChe]

We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.

[BobK71]

We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.

Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

[Marvell1]

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.

Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

Personally, I actually believe that there will be some problems for Saudi Arabia because they themselves don’t have the best players to attract spectators. And that would mean a large number of foreign players in each team. I think there is not going to be any restriction on the number of foreign players on the team. I believe it is going to be probably even 11 players, 11 foreign players in one team.

Anyway, even though I know that the relation between India and Saudi Arabia is currently good, I don’t think BCCI is actually going to help Saudi Arabia with anything when it comes to this Saudi cricket league. But another thing that can happen is, when it is the season of the Saudi cricket league, India will help them, and when it is time for the IPL, Saudi Arabia will also help India. Though I am not sure how that is going to work out.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

We can't be conclusive before the plan gets executed. It isn't easy to defeat the success of IPL. Through years and number of seasons it have turned to be one among the top league of the world. Saudi Arabia have got different plans and the execution and success will break the control of BCCI over cricket. In all means BCCI will try to keep things under control. This is a big opportunity for the Pakistan players to enjoy a big league and I'm sure the pay will be really high as the spending on the league is really big. Already Saudi Arabia wants to come away from the control of USA, and these activities too can support in their agenda.

Cricket is unfortunately a game always dominated by few countries. Till 2000 it was Aus and England that were considered to be super power of cricket and for last decade India has also joined this league of super power.
Saudi is a big play and India has good relations with Saudi. It won't be easy for Indian government to oppose Saudi league since that will mean Saudi also stopping there investment in India.
As I said there is nothing in black and white about this league rather just speculation. Better wait for details to roll out.

Yes, there is logic in your statement in this regard. Today politics has reached a different level. Saudi Arabia and India have have good relation, maybe the Saudi government will want to exploit that opportunity and India will also carefully calculate their gains or losses. But as Saudi Arabia is very strong economically, they will try to dominate to some extent. I believe India will not try to hindrance to their league rather if it possible they will help them. Because these two countries have good economic relations.

Saudia Arabia Is a strong country and its league will definitely make alot of name in cricket world Arabs have alot of tendency to make their words real.
In my opinion Indians and Saudis will eventually end up together for growth of the cricket in Saudi Arabia. 
Indians have alot of skills as far as diplomatic relations are concerned.