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May 12, 2022, 03:38:07 PM
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We have some exciting news! England's men's Test team is now led by new head coach Brendan McCullum. Following signing a four-year deal with KKR, he will step down from his role. As a T20 specialist, he will have a tough task ahead of him! Although I believe this is a good decision by England since McCullum is an aggressive batsman, who will help England play a more aggressive style during a test match!

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ICC and BCCI have no objection in stopping the International cricket for two months for IPL (one match per day). Its very much clear that Big 3 dont want Cricket to be in olympics or adding more cricket since that will challenge the supremacy of big3 in cricket. I dont think crikcet is going to Olympics as long as its controlled by big3.

There are several reasons why the big 3 don't want cricket in Olympics. Some of them are:

1. Stringent drug tests in Olympics. Performance enhancement drugs are banned.
2. Foreigners can't represent national teams in Olympics
3. Each and every country need to play qualifying tournament in Olympics, unlike the case in ICC World Cup where 80% of the teams gain automatic entry
4. The revenues will be shared with the respective national Olympic body and not with the cricket board
5. No special treatment for any of the teams. All are treated equally.

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May 12, 2022, 05:07:13 PM
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There is an interesting news I came across on ESPNcricinfo.com, "Pakistan women team captain Bismah Bismah Maroof's daughter denied accreditation for Commonwealth Games. Her mother and daughter will now stay at a hotel outside the CWG village"

I remember she was with her daughter during women cricket world cup recently. "The PCB's maternity policy allows a mother "to travel with a support person of her choice to assist in caring for her infant child", with travel and accommodation costs shared equally between the board and the player."  ESPNcricinfo.com

Credit goes to Bismah who has kept balance between her family life and cricket.
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May 13, 2022, 09:28:03 AM
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We have some exciting news! England's men's Test team is now led by new head coach Brendan McCullum. Following signing a four-year deal with KKR, he will step down from his role. As a T20 specialist, he will have a tough task ahead of him! Although I believe this is a good decision by England since McCullum is an aggressive batsman, who will help England play a more aggressive style during a test match!

We have seen England suffer from batting problems in test matches in the past. Especially when the ball is moving off the seam. And also when the ball is swinging.

So, I believe this is going to be great for England. I am sure he will be able to make the players be able to play fearlessly. Players in test matches often don't come forward because they fear a good-paced bouncer will be coming. So, I believe that fear will be a lot less if he coaches.

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We have some exciting news! England's men's Test team is now led by new head coach Brendan McCullum. Following signing a four-year deal with KKR, he will step down from his role. As a T20 specialist, he will have a tough task ahead of him! Although I believe this is a good decision by England since McCullum is an aggressive batsman, who will help England play a more aggressive style during a test match!

We have seen England suffer from batting problems in test matches in the past. Especially when the ball is moving off the seam. And also when the ball is swinging.

So, I believe this is going to be great for England. I am sure he will be able to make the players be able to play fearlessly. Players in test matches often don't come forward because they fear a good-paced bouncer will be coming. So, I believe that fear will be a lot less if he coaches.

So England after having new test captain are now getting new test coach as well. I think it will take sometime now before England will regain there lost form in test. At the moment, the only reliable batsmen in there test squad is Root. They have series coming up against Pakistan, so it will be exciting to see how they handle them.
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May 13, 2022, 09:54:31 AM
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ICC and BCCI have no objection in stopping the International cricket for two months for IPL (one match per day). Its very much clear that Big 3 dont want Cricket to be in olympics or adding more cricket since that will challenge the supremacy of big3 in cricket. I dont think crikcet is going to Olympics as long as its controlled by big3.
There are several reasons why the big 3 don't want cricket in Olympics. Some of them are:

1. Stringent drug tests in Olympics. Performance enhancement drugs are banned.
2. Foreigners can't represent national teams in Olympics
3. Each and every country need to play qualifying tournament in Olympics, unlike the case in ICC World Cup where 80% of the teams gain automatic entry
4. The revenues will be shared with the respective national Olympic body and not with the cricket board
5. No special treatment for any of the teams. All are treated equally.

I am quite sure that all these reasons are the main cause why cricket is not going to be in the Olympics. The big 3 surely do not want to lose their control over the ICC and if cricket is inserted into the Olympics that will surely be a problem for them. they are a lot used to the special treatment by the ICC and if they are treated equally as all the other teams it will hurt their ego. So, even if ICC wants to add cricket to the Olympics I don't think the big 3 will let them.

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I am quite sure that all these reasons are the main cause why cricket is not going to be in the Olympics. The big 3 surely do not want to lose their control over the ICC and if cricket is inserted into the Olympics that will surely be a problem for them. they are a lot used to the special treatment by the ICC and if they are treated equally as all the other teams it will hurt their ego. So, even if ICC wants to add cricket to the Olympics I don't think the big 3 will let them.

Maybe we should use big-4 instead of big-3. A lot of the times, boards such as ECB and NZC are the most vocal opponents of popularizing and globalizing cricket, but in the end the blame always fall on the BCCI. I am not saying that BCCI guys are all saints, but sometimes we ignore the negative influence of boards such as the NZC. And also, let's not forget the fact that the current head of ICC is a businessman from New Zealand. During the elections, he defeated a former player (Imran Khwaja) with support from the pig-4 grouping.

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I am quite sure that all these reasons are the main cause why cricket is not going to be in the Olympics. The big 3 surely do not want to lose their control over the ICC and if cricket is inserted into the Olympics that will surely be a problem for them. they are a lot used to the special treatment by the ICC and if they are treated equally as all the other teams it will hurt their ego. So, even if ICC wants to add cricket to the Olympics I don't think the big 3 will let them.

Maybe we should use big-4 instead of big-3. A lot of the times, boards such as ECB and NZC are the most vocal opponents of popularizing and globalizing cricket, but in the end the blame always fall on the BCCI. I am not saying that BCCI guys are all saints, but sometimes we ignore the negative influence of boards such as the NZC. And also, let's not forget the fact that the current head of ICC is a businessman from New Zealand. During the elections, he defeated a former player (Imran Khwaja) with support from the pig-4 grouping.
That's how life pan out in wilderness or more precisely in socialist world in terms of thought process. Every entity is going to attract criticism if they are generating significant amount of wealth in comparison to their counterparts.

One of the reason NZC never attract any backlash and they have a good boy image in the cricketing world.

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May 13, 2022, 08:27:23 PM
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It's not that hard to understand. Cricket is not an Olympic sports and that's why these nations are not interested. Other sports understand the value of Olympics and that is why they tried hard to get them included. FIFA is ten times richer when compared to the ICC, and the same can be said about FIBA as well. But these sports bodies have pushed really hard to include their respective sports in Olympics. Because they understand that in the long term, the popularity will increase and monetary rewards will follow. But in case of ICC, they are interested only in short term benefits.
well stated. And there is a game behind every game.
Our country has very good cricket team and in winter olympics one only athlete participated and there were two assistant with him and our PM was watching in China. How funny.

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I am quite sure that all these reasons are the main cause why cricket is not going to be in the Olympics. The big 3 surely do not want to lose their control over the ICC and if cricket is inserted into the Olympics that will surely be a problem for them. they are a lot used to the special treatment by the ICC and if they are treated equally as all the other teams it will hurt their ego. So, even if ICC wants to add cricket to the Olympics I don't think the big 3 will let them.
I am not sure about all these theories, you think NBA does not have that much control because they are listed in the Olympics or that FIFA does not have that control over their sport because they are an Olympic sport. What control will be gone when they are listed for the Olympics and i am yet to understand these logics. Even if they are included the countries will not sent their full team and most probably a younger team.
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That's how life pan out in wilderness or more precisely in socialist world in terms of thought process. Every entity is going to attract criticism if they are generating significant amount of wealth in comparison to their counterparts.

One of the reason NZC never attract any backlash and they have a good boy image in the cricketing world.

A few years ago, I read an article in ESPN Cricinfo. It analyzed the 10 test playing nations (back then Ireland and Afghanistan were not test members) and the support that they have provided to the associate nations. ECB was on top, as they regularly allow teams from Netherlands, Scotland and Denmark to take part in the county competition. They were followed by West Indies and South Africa, who also have a similar setup. Pakistan and India did their bit in developing cricket in Afghanistan. Sri Lanka always had a sympathetic view of the associate nations, probably because they themselves were in that position once. Australia is ranked very low, although they provide some support to teams such as PNG and Fiji. And at the rock bottom we have NZC, who have never helped any associate nation till date.

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A few years ago, I read an article in ESPN Cricinfo. It analyzed the 10 test playing nations (back then Ireland and Afghanistan were not test members) and the support that they have provided to the associate nations. ECB was on top, as they regularly allow teams from Netherlands, Scotland and Denmark to take part in the county competition. They were followed by West Indies and South Africa, who also have a similar setup. Pakistan and India did their bit in developing cricket in Afghanistan. Sri Lanka always had a sympathetic view of the associate nations, probably because they themselves were in that position once. Australia is ranked very low, although they provide some support to teams such as PNG and Fiji. And at the rock bottom we have NZC, who have never helped any associate nation till date.

India should have played his part in helping Nepal rather then poking his nose in Afghanistan cricket just to gain political gains. Afghanistan players used to play in Pakistan domestic cricket before Afghanistan national team was formed. Afghanistan couldn't make it to international cricket without support of Pakistan.
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I am quite sure that all these reasons are the main cause why cricket is not going to be in the Olympics. The big 3 surely do not want to lose their control over the ICC and if cricket is inserted into the Olympics that will surely be a problem for them. they are a lot used to the special treatment by the ICC and if they are treated equally as all the other teams it will hurt their ego. So, even if ICC wants to add cricket to the Olympics I don't think the big 3 will let them.

Maybe we should use big-4 instead of big-3. A lot of the times, boards such as ECB and NZC are the most vocal opponents of popularizing and globalizing cricket, but in the end the blame always fall on the BCCI. I am not saying that BCCI guys are all saints, but sometimes we ignore the negative influence of boards such as the NZC. And also, let's not forget the fact that the current head of ICC is a businessman from New Zealand. During the elections, he defeated a former player (Imran Khwaja) with support from the pig-4 grouping.

I think it's understandable why BCCI gets a lot of blame. It's because they are the one who shows off too much. They like to think of themselves as some kind of premium product and honestly a lot of people hate that.




That's how life pan out in wilderness or more precisely in socialist world in terms of thought process. Every entity is going to attract criticism if they are generating significant amount of wealth in comparison to their counterparts.

One of the reason NZC never attract any backlash and they have a good boy image in the cricketing world.

And they also don't do too much showoff. They try to keep things as simple as they can. I know that they also have some type of dominance in the ICC but they hardly show any signs of that.




A few years ago, I read an article in ESPN Cricinfo. It analyzed the 10 test playing nations (back then Ireland and Afghanistan were not test members) and the support that they have provided to the associate nations. ECB was on top, as they regularly allow teams from Netherlands, Scotland and Denmark to take part in the county competition. They were followed by West Indies and South Africa, who also have a similar setup. Pakistan and India did their bit in developing cricket in Afghanistan. Sri Lanka always had a sympathetic view of the associate nations, probably because they themselves were in that position once. Australia is ranked very low, although they provide some support to teams such as PNG and Fiji. And at the rock bottom we have NZC, who have never helped any associate nation till date.

ECB always generally helps associate teams and we are very familiar with that. But I really did not expect this type of thing from the New Zealand cricket board. That was actually least expected from New Zealand cricket board. If they somehow become more active in increasing the number of teams playing cricket regularly I think the recent scenario in cricket might change.

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ICC and BCCI have no objection in stopping the International cricket for two months for IPL (one match per day). Its very much clear that Big 3 dont want Cricket to be in olympics or adding more cricket since that will challenge the supremacy of big3 in cricket. I dont think crikcet is going to Olympics as long as its controlled by big3.

There are several reasons why the big 3 don't want cricket in Olympics. Some of them are:

1. Stringent drug tests in Olympics. Performance enhancement drugs are banned.
2. Foreigners can't represent national teams in Olympics
3. Each and every country need to play qualifying tournament in Olympics, unlike the case in ICC World Cup where 80% of the teams gain automatic entry
4. The revenues will be shared with the respective national Olympic body and not with the cricket board
5. No special treatment for any of the teams. All are treated equally.
That is well explained. I think point 4 is well understood. There are games behind every game.
But point no 1 - the performance enhancement drugs are banned in every game. Isnt it?

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There are several reasons why the big 3 don't want cricket in Olympics. Some of them are:

1. Stringent drug tests in Olympics. Performance enhancement drugs are banned.
2. Foreigners can't represent national teams in Olympics
3. Each and every country need to play qualifying tournament in Olympics, unlike the case in ICC World Cup where 80% of the teams gain automatic entry
4. The revenues will be shared with the respective national Olympic body and not with the cricket board
5. No special treatment for any of the teams. All are treated equally.
That is well explained. I think point 4 is well understood. There are games behind every game.
But point no 1 - the performance enhancement drugs are banned in every game. Isnt it?
All explained very good and surely these are not favourable for ICC main countries so just because of this they are not interested to have this game cricket into Olympics as we already read they never give any application to IOC for this and just giving wrong explanations for some time which is going to end now with this all.

Surely all Performance enhancement drugs are banned as we already watch few players in different cricketing countries faced some bans just because of these drugs even they used for other problems but still have same effects. Big Three in ICC is surely not happy with this main issue which is involving IOC for all revenues because here they can do many tricks but IOC will never allow this so most chances we are not going to be member of this IOC.
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All explained very good and surely these are not favourable for ICC main countries so just because of this they are not interested to have this game cricket into Olympics as we already read they never give any application to IOC for this and just giving wrong explanations for some time which is going to end now with this all.
First and foremost there will be a limit on the number of International players that can participate in a team when you are in the Olympics, you can watch Football, you wont see teams fielding their best team, there will be experienced players but majority of the team members will be young especially under 23 and that will be the case with Cricket as well if it is included in the Olympics.

Surely all Performance enhancement drugs are banned as we already watch few players in different cricketing countries faced some bans just because of these drugs even they used for other problems but still have same effects. Big Three in ICC is surely not happy with this main issue which is involving IOC for all revenues because here they can do many tricks but IOC will never allow this so most chances we are not going to be member of this IOC.
If there is anything put the blame on the big three, that is a convenient way Cheesy. First and foremost it is not always about the revenue and as i mentioned above, the full strength team will not play and there will be a restriction on that aspect to be fair.
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India should have played his part in helping Nepal rather then poking his nose in Afghanistan cricket just to gain political gains. Afghanistan players used to play in Pakistan domestic cricket before Afghanistan national team was formed. Afghanistan couldn't make it to international cricket without support of Pakistan.

Well.. it comes down to politics. The Indian government feels that there is a need to get Afghanistan on their side, because Pakistan is also having a huge influence on that country. On the other hand, Nepal is never treated as an equal partner by India. The government considers Nepal to be a vassal state, and that is one of the reasons why Nepal has increasingly turning to China for help nowadays. These political issues get reflected in dealings between sports bodies as well. To be honest, boards such as PCB, ECB and CA has done more to help Nepal cricket when compared to the BCCI.

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India should have played his part in helping Nepal rather then poking his nose in Afghanistan cricket just to gain political gains. Afghanistan players used to play in Pakistan domestic cricket before Afghanistan national team was formed. Afghanistan couldn't make it to international cricket without support of Pakistan.

Well.. it comes down to politics. The Indian government feels that there is a need to get Afghanistan on their side, because Pakistan is also having a huge influence on that country. On the other hand, Nepal is never treated as an equal partner by India. The government considers Nepal to be a vassal state, and that is one of the reasons why Nepal has increasingly turning to China for help nowadays. These political issues get reflected in dealings between sports bodies as well. To be honest, boards such as PCB, ECB and CA has done more to help Nepal cricket when compared to the BCCI.
India needs to build good relation with all the neighbouring country. For Pakistan - India is a big thread and Thank God Pakistan defense is strong that is why it is safe yet. Otherwise its fate would have been more brutal than Afghansiatan, Yeman, Palestine, Syera, Iraq, IOKashimir. There is brutality all over in particular in the muslim countries. 

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May 15, 2022, 06:08:10 AM
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Well.. it comes down to politics. The Indian government feels that there is a need to get Afghanistan on their side, because Pakistan is also having a huge influence on that country. On the other hand, Nepal is never treated as an equal partner by India. The government considers Nepal to be a vassal state, and that is one of the reasons why Nepal has increasingly turning to China for help nowadays. These political issues get reflected in dealings between sports bodies as well. To be honest, boards such as PCB, ECB and CA has done more to help Nepal cricket when compared to the BCCI.

If PCB (not a rich board) can help Afghanistan then for BCCI helping Nepal or other bordering country is just a matter of giving some peanuts. I still can't believe Nepal is not in international cricket despite being in a cricket centric region. Nepal must have a strong test team by now.
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Well.. it comes down to politics. The Indian government feels that there is a need to get Afghanistan on their side, because Pakistan is also having a huge influence on that country. On the other hand, Nepal is never treated as an equal partner by India. The government considers Nepal to be a vassal state, and that is one of the reasons why Nepal has increasingly turning to China for help nowadays. These political issues get reflected in dealings between sports bodies as well. To be honest, boards such as PCB, ECB and CA has done more to help Nepal cricket when compared to the BCCI.

If PCB (not a rich board) can help Afghanistan then for BCCI helping Nepal or other bordering country is just a matter of giving some peanuts. I still can't believe Nepal is not in international cricket despite being in a cricket centric region. Nepal must have a strong test team by now.
Pakistan has always been in trouble due to Afghanistan.
And that is one of the reasons people of Pakistan suffered so much. I wish if Pakistan concentre on their own problems rather than facilitating other countries.

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