Cricket match prediction discussions

[Sithara007]

I support with your suggestion. That's how it should be. The teams of the first tier are strong. They will perform well against each other. And the chances of a one-sided match are very low. The teams he selects for Tier 2 are all pretty much the same quality. But I would say Ireland team should be given in Tier 3. Because this team is not experienced enough for Test format.

However, the ICC is unlikely to take any such decision. They will host Bangladesh's Test series with teams like Australia in the coming days and we will have to enjoy a boring 5-day Test match.

ICC will not support any such decision, because they will face stiff opposition from tier-2 teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. These teams will lose a lot of revenue in case they can't play tests against India and Australia. But I don't know whether continuing with the current system will be beneficial for test cricket in anyway. And you may be right about Ireland. They haven't performed that well in test matches. But then we will be having a 5-team group for tier-2 and 7 team setup for tier-3. I don't want such imbalance.

[posi]

I support with your suggestion. That's how it should be. The teams of the first tier are strong. They will perform well against each other. And the chances of a one-sided match are very low. The teams he selects for Tier 2 are all pretty much the same quality. But I would say Ireland team should be given in Tier 3. Because this team is not experienced enough for Test format.
However, the ICC is unlikely to take any such decision. They will host Bangladesh's Test series with teams like Australia in the coming days and we will have to enjoy a boring 5-day Test match.

ICC will not support any such decision, because they will face stiff opposition from tier-2 teams such as West Indies, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. These teams will lose a lot of revenue in case they can't play tests against India and Australia. But I don't know whether continuing with the current system will be beneficial for test cricket in anyway. And you may be right about Ireland. They haven't performed that well in test matches. But then we will be having a 5-team group for tier-2 and 7 team setup for tier-3. I don't want such imbalance.

This tier system was talked about in this thread from quite a long time ago and also multiple times. But in the end, I think we all know that ICC is not going to do anything like that because that is not going to be what the cricket board would want. We all know that when bigger teams like India and Australia are on a losing Streak, they play against weaker opponents to gain confidence. But that will not be possible with the tier system being implemented. But I don’t think ICC would have had any problems with this.

[Hamza2424]

BAN vs IDN ODI series I am quite surprised by these matches BAN is dominating the series by 2-0. On the other side, Namibia won the match by a massive margin, I am not much surprised by this as Namibia was the favorite for this match as compared to Nepal, I am curious about the IND vs BAN as they won by just 5 runs.

[ZAINmalik75]

BAN vs IDN ODI series I am quite surprised by these matches BAN is dominating the series by 2-0.

Due to overconfident I think India lose the match because they underestimate the Bangladesh batting and bowling lineup and at they end they lose the match from 7th no ranking team in ODI ranking which is quite worry moment for strong team like India . And due to bad feilding and bad captaincy and lack of runs of virat they lose the matches. I think India will learn from his mistakes in ODI and will prepare himself better for upcoming matches because soon the ODI world cup is on the way

[eaLiTy]

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Due to overconfident I think India lose the match because they underestimate the Bangladesh batting and bowling lineup and at they end they lose the match from 7th no ranking team in ODI ranking which is quite worry moment for strong team like India . And due to bad feilding and bad captaincy and lack of runs of virat they lose the matches. I think India will learn from his mistakes in ODI and will prepare himself better for upcoming matches because soon the ODI world cup is on the way

Bangladesh played really well and the entire series the one batsman that turned both the matches upside down is Mehidy Hasan Miraz and if not for his innings in this match and in the last match, India would have won the match and the series. So it is important to give credit to the player that changed the series for their side and it is not about the overconfidence of India that lost the match but it can be blamed on the captaincy of Rohit Sharma.

[n0ne]

BAN vs IDN ODI series I am quite surprised by these matches BAN is dominating the series by 2-0. On the other side, Namibia won the match by a massive margin, I am not much surprised by this as Namibia was the favorite for this match as compared to Nepal, I am curious about the IND vs BAN as they won by just 5 runs.

It is a surprising win, India almost lost the match and Rohit Sharma drove it to the loss at the last over. Losing by a small margin of 5 runs happened at the end which was supposed to be a big loss. Bangladesh have the advantage of home ground and in majority of the matches Bangladesh have marked it's winning. Once again this have been proven by the series win from Bangladesh.

[SirLancelot]

Plz, explain to me how additional fund for Afghanistan and Ireland helped in their Test setup when they are not even playing enough test matches.

And it brings me to another topic, when existing test nations are not able to play test matches, then do you think the "Test nation" tag is going to help associate members? Please remember Getting a Test nation status and increased funding goes together. We already have Afg +Ire example and it's counterproductive IMO.

I am in favor of more funding for associates but for white ball cricket.

You misunderstood me. Even after receiving the test status and additional funds, the test capabilities haven't seen much improvement for Ireland (not sure about Afghanistan). But the most important point here is that Cricket Ireland received additional funds, that were diverted to create a fully professional national squad and for grass-roots development. The improvement was visible during the recently concluded T20 World Cup, and during the Irish women's tour of Pakistan. Their T20 and ODI capabilities have improved, which would have been impossible without the additional fund infusion from the ICC.

I get that point as it's related to the same equation.

I would rather prefer if Afg+Ire and all associate nations focus more on limited overs cricket and got entry into the WC instead of the so-called test nation club. This might sound cocky but we already have enough test-playing nations and standards are not great. International cricket would become much better if ICC and the elite stop fanaticizing with test cricket, saying this despite being a test cricket fan.

This is point which I am also want to highlight because now we are living fast life, and we can't go with the test match as we have many teams in shorter format which are giving their best, and we can include more teams in this format as well which will be positive development for the game and ICC as well.
We need to have few improvements in these both formats because we will be able to have more teams we will have more competition better marketplace as well and better minds also in ICC because currently just few are here, but these are not productive and positive for the development of the cricket.

If we are able to have around 20 to 25 teams in these both formats then surely this could be amazing stuff, and we will be able to have much better media rights and many strong sponsors as well because this will surely increase fans club and views on different sources which increase income of the ICC and many countries as well.

[Sithara007]

This is point which I am also want to highlight because now we are living fast life, and we can't go with the test match as we have many teams in shorter format which are giving their best, and we can include more teams in this format as well which will be positive development for the game and ICC as well.
We need to have few improvements in these both formats because we will be able to have more teams we will have more competition better marketplace as well and better minds also in ICC because currently just few are here, but these are not productive and positive for the development of the cricket.

If we are able to have around 20 to 25 teams in these both formats then surely this could be amazing stuff, and we will be able to have much better media rights and many strong sponsors as well because this will surely increase fans club and views on different sources which increase income of the ICC and many countries as well.

I don't know whether having 20-25 teams playing the longer format is a good idea. A decade or so ago, we had this ICC Intercontinental Cup. It was a 4-day competition involving stronger associate teams such as Afghanistan, Canada, Ireland and Kenya. But even this competition had only 8-10 teams. The quality of cricket was very good, but for some unknown reason the ICC decided to shelve this competition from 2017 onwards. But now I don't think that the associate teams are capable of playing 4-day cricket. A decade of negligence from the ICC has taken its toll.

[JSRAW]

This is point which I am also want to highlight because now we are living fast life, and we can't go with the test match as we have many teams in shorter format which are giving their best, and we can include more teams in this format as well which will be positive development for the game and ICC as well.
We need to have few improvements in these both formats because we will be able to have more teams we will have more competition better marketplace as well and better minds also in ICC because currently just few are here, but these are not productive and positive for the development of the cricket.

If we are able to have around 20 to 25 teams in these both formats then surely this could be amazing stuff, and we will be able to have much better media rights and many strong sponsors as well because this will surely increase fans club and views on different sources which increase income of the ICC and many countries as well.

I don't know whether having 20-25 teams playing the longer format is a good idea. A decade or so ago, we had this ICC Intercontinental Cup. It was a 4-day competition involving stronger associate teams such as Afghanistan, Canada, Ireland and Kenya. But even this competition had only 8-10 teams. The quality of cricket was very good, but for some unknown reason the ICC decided to shelve this competition from 2017 onwards. But now I don't think that the associate teams are capable of playing 4-day cricket. A decade of negligence from the ICC has taken its toll.

I believe SirLancelot is talking about including 20-25 teams in the limited overs cricket and ICC tournaments, not test setup. Including so many teams in tests would be a disaster and a waste of finance and all resources, unless ICC and these boards are willing to take a hit for the next 2-3 decades.

[ilovealtcoins]

ICC always favours India, which is a known truth. ICC is under the political influence from the ruling government. Everytime there arises some controversy, the government does politics out of it and convert the people into votes. ICC needs to be allowed to function without the political pressure. If that happens surely we don't see such problems arising.

ICC goes with the majority opinion. Out of the 10 test nations apart from India and Pakistan, how any would actually side openly with Pakistan? So we can't really blame the ICC. Even last month, the BCCI got their proxy (Greg Barclay) elected as the chairman of the ICC. Boards such as the PCB couldn't even put up a candidate against the BCCI proxy. The way to move forward is to include more teams with test status. But if they give test status to teams such as UAE and Oman, then once again it will give more power to the BCCI.

I don’t know about any government, but I am sure that ICC is certainly under the influence of the Indian cricket board. Because the Indian cricket board brings in the most amount of money for them. So, I believe that they are often quite scared to lose the most amount of revenue which is generated by the BCCI. So probably ICC has to favor India in some cases, even if they do not want to.

The way to move forward is to include more teams with test status. But if they give test status to teams such as UAE and Oman, then once again it will give more power to the BCCI.

Lol that's funny. Ireland and Afghanistan are now full members and how many tests these guys have played? Just 9 in last 5 years.
What's the benefit of giving full test nation status to everyone when they are not even playing, Unless you are looking for funding.
Funding is important but if anyone wants to support new teams then ICC funding should be diverted toward LOIs (white ball), not Test format.

I also think that ICC should concentrate on finding shorter formats of cricket. Because this cricket is already a lost cause. No one is going to be able to bring back the glory days of test cricket. T-20 is really popular right now. And before ODI loses its popularity, ICC should do something about it. But I think the main concentration should be in the T-20 format. Because that is the only format that will actually be able to bring in new teams.

[Sithara007]

I believe SirLancelot is talking about including 20-25 teams in the limited overs cricket and ICC tournaments, not test setup. Including so many teams in tests would be a disaster and a waste of finance and all resources, unless ICC and these boards are willing to take a hit for the next 2-3 decades.

In that case it is OK. And even for the top-6 teams, I would like to see a reduction in the number of test matches that are being played every year. Some of the teams such as England plays as many as 10-12 test matches in a calendar year. That equals to 50-60 days spent on the longer format. IMO, this is entirely unnecessary. Test series should comprise of no more than 2 test matches. 5-match series should be limited to Ashes, Border-Gavaskar and Trans-Tasman (and for any series involving India and Pakistan if the BCCI and PCB reach an agreement).

[Hamza2424]

BAN vs IDN ODI series I am quite surprised by these matches BAN is dominating the series by 2-0.

Due to overconfident I think India lose the match because they underestimate the Bangladesh batting and bowling lineup and at they end they lose the match from 7th no ranking team in ODI ranking which is quite worry moment for strong team like India . And due to bad feilding and bad captaincy and lack of runs of virat they lose the matches. I think India will learn from his mistakes in ODI and will prepare himself better for upcoming matches because soon the ODI world cup is on the way

No no, I don't think so this is because of the overconfidence i think facts and figures proves this was a bad play by India and on other side luck by chance. Yes its rare but how did BAN 7th Wicket perform i just can't belive it. Menhdi Hassan what a legendary inning on time. Rohit Sharma what a performance in pressure dude but i think if he was able to play then why he didn't perform on the top order? I know he was injured by thumb but still it was not frature anyways a good fight back by IND but they lost.

[Sithara007]

No no, I don't think so this is because of the overconfidence i think facts and figures proves this was a bad play by India and on other side luck by chance. Yes its rare but how did BAN 7th Wicket perform i just can't belive it. Menhdi Hassan what a legendary inning on time. Rohit Sharma what a performance in pressure dude but i think if he was able to play then why he didn't perform on the top order? I know he was injured by thumb but still it was not frature anyways a good fight back by IND but they lost.

During the first match it was the 10th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mustafizur Rahman, while in the second match it was the 7th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mahmudullah. Either way, the Indian bowlers failed to do their job. After working so hard to get the top order batsmen out, they failed completely against the lower order batsmen. And this is where the lack of experience (especially with bowlers such as Mohammed Siraj and Umran Malik) was evident. Bangladesh has won the series 2-0. The result of the third match is irrelevant. 

[BobK71]

No no, I don't think so this is because of the overconfidence i think facts and figures proves this was a bad play by India and on other side luck by chance. Yes its rare but how did BAN 7th Wicket perform i just can't belive it. Menhdi Hassan what a legendary inning on time. Rohit Sharma what a performance in pressure dude but i think if he was able to play then why he didn't perform on the top order? I know he was injured by thumb but still it was not frature anyways a good fight back by IND but they lost.

During the first match it was the 10th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mustafizur Rahman, while in the second match it was the 7th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mahmudullah. Either way, the Indian bowlers failed to do their job. After working so hard to get the top order batsmen out, they failed completely against the lower order batsmen. And this is where the lack of experience (especially with bowlers such as Mohammed Siraj and Umran Malik) was evident. Bangladesh has won the series 2-0. The result of the third match is irrelevant. 

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team. India was in a similar situation in 2015 as well. Bangladesh won the innings with winning two matches. However, there is no series with Bangladesh for a long time that is why the Indian cricketers could not realize their bowling action very well. How a player in the same position can build a big partnership that against India which is now talk of the cricket.

[ZAINmalik75]

No no, I don't think so this is because of the overconfidence i think facts and figures proves this was a bad play by India and on other side luck by chance. Yes its rare but how did BAN 7th Wicket perform i just can't belive it. Menhdi Hassan what a legendary inning on time. Rohit Sharma what a performance in pressure dude but i think if he was able to play then why he didn't perform on the top order? I know he was injured by thumb but still it was not frature anyways a good fight back by IND but they lost.

During the first match it was the 10th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mustafizur Rahman, while in the second match it was the 7th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mahmudullah. Either way, the Indian bowlers failed to do their job. After working so hard to get the top order batsmen out, they failed completely against the lower order batsmen. And this is where the lack of experience (especially with bowlers such as Mohammed Siraj and Umran Malik) was evident. Bangladesh has won the series 2-0. The result of the third match is irrelevant. 

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team.

It's little bit worry moment for India batting lineup because they didn't perform consistency especially in batting, BCCI must should take a look towards batting lineup and mustly change some bad performance batter, at the end I think India is not a bad team it's just a bad day for them but credit goes to Bangladesh bowlers like shakib and many more & his middle order batter Mehdi he is phenomenal and next lvl player .

[BobK71]

No no, I don't think so this is because of the overconfidence i think facts and figures proves this was a bad play by India and on other side luck by chance. Yes its rare but how did BAN 7th Wicket perform i just can't belive it. Menhdi Hassan what a legendary inning on time. Rohit Sharma what a performance in pressure dude but i think if he was able to play then why he didn't perform on the top order? I know he was injured by thumb but still it was not frature anyways a good fight back by IND but they lost.

During the first match it was the 10th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mustafizur Rahman, while in the second match it was the 7th wicket partnership between Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Mahmudullah. Either way, the Indian bowlers failed to do their job. After working so hard to get the top order batsmen out, they failed completely against the lower order batsmen. And this is where the lack of experience (especially with bowlers such as Mohammed Siraj and Umran Malik) was evident. Bangladesh has won the series 2-0. The result of the third match is irrelevant.  

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team.

It's little bit worry moment for India batting lineup because they didn't perform consistency especially in batting, BCCI must should take a look towards batting lineup and mustly change some bad performance batter, at the end I think India is not a bad team it's just a bad day for them but credit goes to Bangladesh bowlers like shakib and many more & his middle order batter Mehdi he is phenomenal and next lvl player .

The current Indian ODI squad is by no means weak. Their adoption is not going well with the pitch in Mirpur stadium. Every player is quite suitable. The world's best players perform in this series. I think they were already bit worried because they had lost in this stadium in Bangladesh in their previous visit. Maybe they didn't want a repeat of that, but at the end it happened. In the next match I am confident that India will win due to change of pitch.

[Hamza2424]

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team. India was in a similar situation in 2015 as well. Bangladesh won the innings with winning two matches. However, there is no series with Bangladesh for a long time that is why the Indian cricketers could not realize their bowling action very well. How a player in the same position can build a big partnership that against India which is now talk of the cricket.

What bro that's not the sportsman spirit as far i know how it can be a shame it happens most of the time as Pakistan lose by the ZIM in world cup matches. Try to pick the point it was world cup match South Africa lose by Natherlands and many other. So pint is Win or lose is anther thing and fight back is another. I know they performed very poor.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team. India was in a similar situation in 2015 as well. Bangladesh won the innings with winning two matches. However, there is no series with Bangladesh for a long time that is why the Indian cricketers could not realize their bowling action very well. How a player in the same position can build a big partnership that against India which is now talk of the cricket.

What bro that's not the sportsman spirit as far i know how it can be a shame it happens most of the time as Pakistan lose by the ZIM in world cup matches. Try to pick the point it was world cup match South Africa lose by Natherlands and many other. So pint is Win or lose is anther thing and fight back is another. I know they performed very poor.

This can happen with any team that they stop performing for sometime ,Bangladesh is a good team you cannot say that its a weak team . Recently England ODI series with Australia right after T20 world cup  England lost that ODI'S against Australia with a 3-0  so you cannot say anything about this .
There are ups and downs ,highs and lows in all cricket team journey and everyone should accept that with whole heart.

[Sithara007]

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team. India was in a similar situation in 2015 as well. Bangladesh won the innings with winning two matches. However, there is no series with Bangladesh for a long time that is why the Indian cricketers could not realize their bowling action very well. How a player in the same position can build a big partnership that against India which is now talk of the cricket.

Indians failed with both their batting as well as with bowling. Kohli has scored hardly anything. Others such as Dhawan, Rahul and Rohit have been inconsistent. Also, they were too much overconfident. The team went to Bangladesh with all their star players, hoping to steamroll the hosts 3-0. And in the end, they got battered by the Bangladeshis. Just one match remains in this series. Let's see whether India will get a consolatory win or not. Perhaps this is also the last chance for Virat Kohli to save his place in the ODI squad.

[BobK71]

It must be a shame for India. Because they are one of the biggest powerhouses in cricket. Bangladesh play well at times but they lack consistency. But such a loss is definitely a big blow for the big team. India was in a similar situation in 2015 as well. Bangladesh won the innings with winning two matches. However, there is no series with Bangladesh for a long time that is why the Indian cricketers could not realize their bowling action very well. How a player in the same position can build a big partnership that against India which is now talk of the cricket.

Indians failed with both their batting as well as with bowling. Kohli has scored hardly anything. Others such as Dhawan, Rahul and Rohit have been inconsistent. Also, they were too much overconfident. The team went to Bangladesh with all their star players, hoping to steamroll the hosts 3-0. And in the end, they got battered by the Bangladeshis. Just one match remains in this series. Let's see whether India will get a consolatory win or not. Perhaps this is also the last chance for Virat Kohli to save his place in the ODI squad.

India's star cricketers are trying hard but failing to win matches. Virat Kohli, Shekhar Dhawan and KL Rahul all of them are complete failures. But I wouldn't call Rohit Sharma an absolute failure in the last match. India lost the match but Rohit tried to bring the match as the wining session. If you give the attention to the last match, you will see at the last moment of the match, India was very close to win but due to the loss of 1 over by Mohammad Siraj, India failed. I appreciate Rohit for giving the best effort. If India won the match then defiantly Rohit could get the appreciation.