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February 22, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
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God is not a mythical creature.

god is just an idea, like unicorns. It would be nice if it existed but so would be unicorns.

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February 22, 2020, 11:43:45 AM
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God is not a mythical creature.

god is just an idea, like unicorns. It would be nice if it existed but so would be unicorns.

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god is going to take a nap while humanity destroys itself, just like he passed out during the holocaust.   god needs to take a walk and check out the planet he made, instead of drinking so much.  :/

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February 22, 2020, 12:01:07 PM
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An atheist who doesn't attempt to believe that God doesn't exist, isn't an atheist by definition.

That's your ignorance speaking. There are different kinds of atheism.

Machine nature is an absolutely proven fact. Our own experience with our own machines shows us that machines have makers. No belief necessary.

Human machines have human makers, but not human machines don't necessarily need to have any makers. Your argument is a non-sequitur fallacy. The fact you're basing your whole "god exists according to science" in a simple non-sequitur fallacy demonstrates how much bullshit you eat to rest easy in your beliefs. Which are just that, simple, run-out of the mill religious beliefs.

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We have no other observations regarding machines. Machines are designed and built. Just because we don't know who the designer of a particular machine is, doesn't mean the machine wasn't designed and built.

For something to exist without a designer, it would have to exist spontaneously. We have no example in nature of spontaneous existence of anything. But we have "zillions' of examples of things that were brought about by something else. Why would anybody think that the whole universe came about spontaneously, when we have no example of anything that did such? The odds alone - number of designed and built things vs nothing that wasn't designed and built that we know of - scientifically prove that there is a Maker for the universe.

Further. Even in the face perfect perpetual motion, there still needs to be a maker for a machine. But the universe is declining via entropy. Stars burn out. They get old and die. New stars are made from operations that are set in place. The entropy of it is the dissipation, the dispersal, the diffusion of complexity into continually expanding and growing simplicity.

All of this shows us that God exists to have made this whole universe in the first place.

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February 22, 2020, 12:02:24 PM
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God is not a mythical creature.

god is just an idea, like unicorns. It would be nice if it existed but so would be unicorns.

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People can't make their idea of unicorns into reality. But God made His idea of people into reality... or don't we exist.

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February 22, 2020, 01:43:24 PM
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People can't make their idea of unicorns into reality. But God made His idea of people into reality... or don't we exist.

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Another of your non-sequitur fallacies again?

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February 22, 2020, 05:11:14 PM
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People can't make their idea of unicorns into reality. But God made His idea of people into reality... or don't we exist.

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Another of your non-sequitur fallacies again?

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Sounds like you are starting to realize that God exists... but at least that you don't know that He doesn't, and that you should probably be looking for Him.

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February 22, 2020, 05:43:27 PM
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Sounds like you are starting to realize that God exists... but at least that you don't know that He doesn't, and that you should probably be looking for Him.

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Sounds like you're dreaming. One day you'll wake up and realise you've been praying to a f'ing unicorn  Grin

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February 22, 2020, 10:43:13 PM
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Sounds like you are starting to realize that God exists... but at least that you don't know that He doesn't, and that you should probably be looking for Him.

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Sounds like you're dreaming. One day you'll wake up and realise you've been praying to a f'ing unicorn  Grin

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You sound so bitter. What happened to all your love? God loves you and has hHis love available for you to use for salvation. Since it is only stubbornness that is keeping you from admitting that you believe about God, now, why not become honest and Accept salvation and live?

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February 23, 2020, 08:24:32 AM
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You sound so bitter. What happened to all your love? God loves you and has hHis love available for you to use for salvation. Since it is only stubbornness that is keeping you from admitting that you believe about God, now, why not become honest and Accept salvation and live?

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If your philosophy is based on feeling good, why stop there? You can go and try drugs: coke, heroin, meth, you can distance yourself further away from reality with that. If I had to agree with Marx on anything it would be that "religion is the Opium of the people".

I prefer to keep myself grounded in reality. By the way, reality is way more awesome than any and all of the religious fairy tales, but to discover it you need to be scientific about it. So you cannot use your non-sequitur fallacies.

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February 23, 2020, 02:06:05 PM
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You sound so bitter. What happened to all your love? God loves you and has hHis love available for you to use for salvation. Since it is only stubbornness that is keeping you from admitting that you believe about God, now, why not become honest and Accept salvation and live?

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If your philosophy is based on feeling good, why stop there? You can go and try drugs: coke, heroin, meth, you can distance yourself further away from reality with that. If I had to agree with Marx on anything it would be that "religion is the Opium of the people".

I prefer to keep myself grounded in reality. By the way, reality is way more awesome than any and all of the religious fairy tales, but to discover it you need to be scientific about it. So you cannot use your non-sequitur fallacies.

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You use the word if. A right religion is easily administered and produces feeling good way deeper than the temporary feelings produced by things like "coke, heroin, meth," etc.

So it is for you like I said above, "You sound so bitter." Because that's what reality without proper religion does to people. After all, death and pain are reality no matter how much joy comes along in reality. So, making reality your religion causes you to focus on the things of reality, thereby producing bitterness in you.

Come over to the right religion, the religion that brings lasting joy that is stronger than pain and death. Recognize that there will be a resurrection to a life of joy and glory with God through the salvation that God's Son, Jesus, won for us.

I know, I know. Too much information for you.

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February 23, 2020, 04:36:54 PM
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You use the word if. A right religion is easily administered and produces feeling good way deeper than the temporary feelings produced by things like "coke, heroin, meth," etc.

So it is for you like I said above, "You sound so bitter." Because that's what reality without proper religion does to people. After all, death and pain are reality no matter how much joy comes along in reality. So, making reality your religion causes you to focus on the things of reality, thereby producing bitterness in you.

Come over to the right religion, the religion that brings lasting joy that is stronger than pain and death. Recognize that there will be a resurrection to a life of joy and glory with God through the salvation that God's Son, Jesus, won for us.

I know, I know. Too much information for you.

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I am perfectly happy, thanks. Thus you're just deflecting your pain on me. You're denying reality to avoid pain by turning into religion, you should go see a psychologist. I'm really sorry for your pain, man.

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February 23, 2020, 07:54:21 PM
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You use the word if. A right religion is easily administered and produces feeling good way deeper than the temporary feelings produced by things like "coke, heroin, meth," etc.

So it is for you like I said above, "You sound so bitter." Because that's what reality without proper religion does to people. After all, death and pain are reality no matter how much joy comes along in reality. So, making reality your religion causes you to focus on the things of reality, thereby producing bitterness in you.

Come over to the right religion, the religion that brings lasting joy that is stronger than pain and death. Recognize that there will be a resurrection to a life of joy and glory with God through the salvation that God's Son, Jesus, won for us.

I know, I know. Too much information for you.

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I am perfectly happy, thanks. Thus you're just deflecting your pain on me. You're denying reality to avoid pain by turning into religion, you should go see a psychologist. I'm really sorry for your pain, man.

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The little child who is beaten by his parents somewhat, is perfectly happy that they are around. He doesn't know any better, because he has had no experience not being beaten.

Really find God, so that you can find true happiness, rather than being beaten by your own ignorance.

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February 23, 2020, 08:25:46 PM
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God is not a mythical creature.

god is just an idea, like unicorns. It would be nice if it existed but so would be unicorns.

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god is going to take a nap while humanity destroys itself, just like he passed out during the holocaust.   god needs to take a walk and check out the planet he made, instead of drinking so much.  :/

God made the greatest gift to us. He created us, our planet, our universe, with billions of other planets with other races, with other creatures, aliens, etc.. And after that he gave us freedom. Freedom is the greatest gift we can wish for.
God sees only those who turned to face him. He cannot see those people who don't do good, who don't feel true Love, and this is logical.
God is within us, try to live in good conscience, try to love yourself, the people around you, and then you will understand that God is everywhere.
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February 23, 2020, 08:58:43 PM
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God made the greatest gift to us. He created us, our planet, our universe, with billions of other planets with other races, with other creatures, aliens, etc.. And after that he gave us freedom. Freedom is the greatest gift we can wish for.
God sees only those who turned to face him. He cannot see those people who don't do good, who don't feel true Love, and this is logical.
God is within us, try to live in good conscience, try to love yourself, the people around you, and then you will understand that God is everywhere.

Are you called Ned Flanders by any chance?  Cheesy

The little child who is beaten by his parents somewhat, is perfectly happy that they are around. He doesn't know any better, because he has had no experience not being beaten.

Really find God, so that you can find true happiness, rather than being beaten by your own ignorance.

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I'm sorry if you were beaten as a child man, that sucks. Seek help.

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February 23, 2020, 09:06:36 PM
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The little child who is beaten by his parents somewhat, is perfectly happy that they are around. He doesn't know any better, because he has had no experience not being beaten.

Really find God, so that you can find true happiness, rather than being beaten by your own ignorance.

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I'm sorry if you were beaten as a child man, that sucks. Seek help.

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You don't even seem to want to seek help when beaten by your own ignorance.

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February 23, 2020, 09:10:25 PM
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God is not a mythical creature.
god is just an idea, like unicorns. It would be nice if it existed but so would be unicorns.

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Are you sure about what you said ?? Have you ever seen a ghost ??  God like a ghost cannot be seen for real, only can be felt.  I have personally accidentally seen a ghost, so I thought "there really are ghosts, it's certain that God exists too"!!  God is not a myth or fairy tale.

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February 23, 2020, 09:38:53 PM
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Are you sure about what you said ?? Have you ever seen a ghost ??  God like a ghost cannot be seen for real, only can be felt.  I have personally accidentally seen a ghost, so I thought "there really are ghosts, it's certain that God exists too"!!  God is not a myth or fairy tale.

I'm surely going to believe your words without a shred of evidence, buddy. /sarcasm

You don't even seem to want to seek help when beaten by your own ignorance.

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Man, seek help, I feel for you.

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February 23, 2020, 10:16:57 PM
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Are you sure about what you said ?? Have you ever seen a ghost ??  God like a ghost cannot be seen for real, only can be felt.  I have personally accidentally seen a ghost, so I thought "there really are ghosts, it's certain that God exists too"!!  God is not a myth or fairy tale.

I'm surely going to believe your words without a shred of evidence, buddy. /sarcasm

You don't even seem to want to seek help when beaten by your own ignorance.

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Man, seek help, I feel for you.

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Thanks. I am in training daily. And you?     Cool

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February 27, 2020, 08:28:23 AM
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Unfortunately, everything changes over time, once religion was the basis of many people's lives, and now with the progress of technology people's attitude changes.
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February 27, 2020, 01:04:12 PM
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Unfortunately, everything changes over time, once religion was the basis of many people's lives, and now with the progress of technology people's attitude changes.


If we are talking about religion - then any religion only partially leads to the same God. After all, God is one. Moreover, God is not the opposite of science and technology. God can be called the Universe, Energy, Love, or otherwise, these are all different sides of the same. God cannot be understood by the mind (it is not something physical or material). This is what lies beyond the understanding of man in this world. However, we can strive for God through Love or through kindness, etc.
After our death, freed from the physical body (and from our other bodies, such as the astral, mental, etc.), we are reunited with God and only then we can understand what it is. In this world it is impossible to understand, only partially.
When we live our life in harmony with ourselves and with the people around us, with the whole world, when we love, when we control our mind and use it only for the good, when we live in heart and soul - then we are in continuous conversation with God (or at least strive for Him).
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