Why I'm an atheist

[Lambowei]

Now I know why baddie always includes the sunglasses emoticon. He's just blind to his religious bs, he's got the blinders on.

[BADecker]

Now I know why baddie always includes the sunglasses emoticon. He's just blind to his religious bs, he's got the blinders on.

My sunglasses are formulated to filter out atheism stupidity. Not that I don't filter out such stupidity anyway, but the sunglasses make it easier.

[af_newbie]

Calif. Mega-Church Cancels Hospital “Faith Healing” Sessions Over Coronavirus

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/calif-mega-church-cancels-hospital-faith-healing-sessions-over-coronavirus--24Sd3w82EqlN8kG28LAhQ

[BADecker]

Calif. Mega-Church Cancels Hospital “Faith Healing” Sessions Over Coronavirus

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/calif-mega-church-cancels-hospital-faith-healing-sessions-over-coronavirus--24Sd3w82EqlN8kG28LAhQ

From your article:

“Many visit Redding weekly, hoping that God will touch them. I am happy to report that many leave well and whole,” Johnson writes. “But many others leave in the same condition in which they came. I refuse to blame God for this, as though He has a purpose in their disease. While Jesus did not heal everyone alive in His time, He did heal everyone who came to Him. His is the only standard worth following.”

From a science article:

Coronavirus just caused the American Physical Society to cancel its biggest meeting of the year.

So, what does this have to do with atheism? God does what He wants to do. If you don't like it, tough. He is giving you what you are asking for.

[af_newbie]

Calif. Mega-Church Cancels Hospital “Faith Healing” Sessions Over Coronavirus

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/calif-mega-church-cancels-hospital-faith-healing-sessions-over-coronavirus--24Sd3w82EqlN8kG28LAhQ

From your article:

“Many visit Redding weekly, hoping that God will touch them. I am happy to report that many leave well and whole,” Johnson writes. “But many others leave in the same condition in which they came. I refuse to blame God for this, as though He has a purpose in their disease. While Jesus did not heal everyone alive in His time, He did heal everyone who came to Him. His is the only standard worth following.”

From a science article:

Coronavirus just caused the American Physical Society to cancel its biggest meeting of the year.

So, what does this have to do with atheism? God does what He wants to do. If you don't like it, tough. He is giving you what you are asking for.

I did not ask him for Covid-19, did you?  Why did he give it to you?

[BADecker]

I did not ask him for Covid-19, did you?  Why did he give it to you?

Well of course you didn't ask Him. You don't believe He exists, right? So, how could you ask Him?

The thing is, He knew you wanted it, but in His love for you He didn't want to upset you by giving it to you, thereby proving to you that He existed... 'cause you don't really want that proof. So, He gave it to me, to pass on to you. Once you get it from me, He will protect me from it, and you will have what you want.

[Lambowei]

@af_newbie Nevermind BADecker, as you can see from his sunglasses he's just stoned, that's why he can't formulate a single coherent thought.

[BADecker]

Being aware of the existence of God, and all the things He has said to us in His Word, the Bible, helps us to easily out-think any or all of those ignorant atheist jokers. That's why they can't even ask the questions that they want, or think well enough to speak the things that they want to speak meaningfully. And when they realize that they flubbed the things that they are saying, they get angry with godly people, and turn to violence. Of course, they only destroy themselves with their violence. After all, killing Christians only gives Christians a secure position in Heaven.

[Lambowei]

Religion is about faith, not science. It's about belief, not logic. That's why BADecker fails at logic, he's a believer.

[BADecker]

Religion is about faith, not science. It's about belief, not logic. That's why BADecker fails at logic, he's a believer.

That's exactly why much of science is religion. It ignores the logic of God's existence, and tries to make itself and others believe it has the answers.

[Lambowei]

As you can see, BAD is bad at logic. There's no logic on religion, but he can't see it because he's got his blinders on, which he thinks are sunglasses.

[BADecker]

As you can see, BAD is bad at logic. There's no logic on religion, but he can't see it because he's got his blinders on, which he thinks are sunglasses.

God is loving. You don't have to be so scared of Him that you try to wish Him out of existence like that.

 

[Lambowei]

God is loving. You don't have to be so scared of Him that you try to wish Him out of existence like that.

You're like a child that doesn't know yet that santa claus and the three wise men are your parents. You believe in god, but that's just another absurd belief. So I don't need to wish anyone out here, you are wishing god actually existed. You talk to yourself and think you're talking to god. You believe there's something after death and when you get there you'll just get worms into your skull honestly.  You better take full advantage of this life and stop the bullshit because from what we actually know there ain't any other life afterwards.

[BADecker]

God is loving. You don't have to be so scared of Him that you try to wish Him out of existence like that.

You're like a child that doesn't know yet that santa claus and the three wise men are your parents. You believe in god, but that's just another absurd belief. So I don't need to wish anyone out here, you are wishing god actually existed. You talk to yourself and think you're talking to god. You believe there's something after death and when you get there you'll just get worms into your skull honestly.  You better take full advantage of this life and stop the bullshit because from what we actually know there ain't any other life afterwards.

The exact same things could be said for you and what you believe. The only part that doesn't work for what you believe, is that things in the universe don't happen without causes. So, what is the cause of the universe?

Before the universe existed, whatever there was, caused it. Since cause and effect are universe qualities, we don't have a clue about C&E affecting anything outside the universe, before the universe existed.

The order and organization in the universe shows that whatever caused the universe, had the ability to plan and design. Of course, because such planning and designing ability isn't like planning and designing ability within the universe, we don't know the depths of what that planning was like, and what the Planner was/is like... at least not without being told.

So we see that anyone who thinks that God doesn't exist is tossing out the evidence, and the scientific evidence.

[af_newbie]

God is loving. You don't have to be so scared of Him that you try to wish Him out of existence like that.

You're like a child that doesn't know yet that santa claus and the three wise men are your parents. You believe in god, but that's just another absurd belief. So I don't need to wish anyone out here, you are wishing god actually existed. You talk to yourself and think you're talking to god. You believe there's something after death and when you get there you'll just get worms into your skull honestly.  You better take full advantage of this life and stop the bullshit because from what we actually know there ain't any other life afterwards.

The exact same things could be said for you and what you believe. The only part that doesn't work for what you believe, is that things in the universe don't happen without causes. So, what is the cause of the universe?

Before the universe existed, whatever there was, caused it. Since cause and effect are universe qualities, we don't have a clue about C&E affecting anything outside the universe, before the universe existed.

The order and organization in the universe shows that whatever caused the universe, had the ability to plan and design. Of course, because such planning and designing ability isn't like planning and designing ability within the universe, we don't know the depths of what that planning was like, and what the Planner was/is like... at least not without being told.

So we see that anyone who thinks that God doesn't exist is tossing out the evidence, and the scientific evidence.

re:  So, what is the cause of the universe

We don't know.  There was no time so how can you have a cause?

[BADecker]

The exact same things could be said for you and what you believe. The only part that doesn't work for what you believe, is that things in the universe don't happen without causes. So, what is the cause of the universe?

Before the universe existed, whatever there was, caused it. Since cause and effect are universe qualities, we don't have a clue about C&E affecting anything outside the universe, before the universe existed.

The order and organization in the universe shows that whatever caused the universe, had the ability to plan and design. Of course, because such planning and designing ability isn't like planning and designing ability within the universe, we don't know the depths of what that planning was like, and what the Planner was/is like... at least not without being told.

So we see that anyone who thinks that God doesn't exist is tossing out the evidence, and the scientific evidence.

re:  So, what is the cause of the universe

We don't know.  There was no time so how can you have a cause?

You're unusually slow today? Outside the universe, it was something made up of cause without internal effect. It caused the universe, as an experiment, to see what effect was like.

Of course, you can use many other explanations to determine if it even wanted a "why?".

[Lambowei]

You're unusually slow today? Outside the universe, it was something made up of cause without internal effect. It caused the universe, as an experiment, to see what effect was like.

Your logic is broken. Causality doesn't work like you're describing, it's a physical concept. You're generalizing the concept, and then not checking the generalization (because you can't). That's just not scientific, whatever you may think.

From what we know, there was just no time as a concept at the start of the universe, so there's no point in trying to talk about causality as we understand it.

Also, you talk about "outside the universe" but that's anti-scientific crap: the universe is the concept of everything from the scientific perspective, so if there was something "outside" the universe, it wouldn't be out but part of the universe.

Anyway, of course you won't understand anything of what I'm saying. It's in your religious interest to reach your preconceived "truth", your archaic belief about a zombie jesus etc.

[BADecker]

You're unusually slow today? Outside the universe, it was something made up of cause without internal effect. It caused the universe, as an experiment, to see what effect was like.

Your logic is broken. Causality doesn't work like you're describing, it's a physical concept. You're generalizing the concept, and then not checking the generalization (because you can't). That's just not scientific, whatever you may think.

From what we know, there was just no time as a concept at the start of the universe, so there's no point in trying to talk about causality as we understand it.

Also, you talk about "outside the universe" but that's anti-scientific crap: the universe is the concept of everything from the scientific perspective, so if there was something "outside" the universe, it wouldn't be out but part of the universe.

Anyway, of course you won't understand anything of what I'm saying. It's in your religious interest to reach your preconceived "truth", your archaic belief about a zombie jesus etc.

https://i.imgur.com/xeqSGHc.jpg

Since nobody can think about everything, either in pieces or as a whole, how in the world will anyone ever be able to think about something that is outside of the universe? Or how would anyone KNOW that there isn't something outside the universe?

Since everything has a cause, and even the idea that something might not have a cause has a cause, what is the cause of the universe? Even Hawking, in some of his final writings, says that there was a cause that caused the universe.

Before the universe existed, something was there that gave the universe its existence. We can say "before," because "after" the creation there was time. So, we can say before, because time exists now, after, and we are within that time, saying "before."

Playing with the Jesus-idea is not relevant to the idea of atheism. "Jesus" is an idea that comes after there is understanding of the existence of God. You might as well say Pete, or Sam, or Joe if you don't understand that God exists. So, why bring Jesus into it?... except that you naturally know that God exists?

In the universe, complexity is not known to come from something simple, except that something way more complex "programmed" the simple to produce the complex. This means that whatever created the universe was way more complex than the universe. And since the mind of man is here, the Creator was mentally way more complex, as well.

Make it easy on yourself. Call it God, because "God" fits the definition of that greater complexity. Calling It God doesn't mean that you know everything about It.

As science expands, and as more and more people become scientists, these scientists are logically following the above pattern. They might not be using the word God, but they are describing Something/Someone that fits the basic idea of the definition. It's only logical from the things that exist that God exists, by whatever name you want to call Him.

There isn't any pure random that we have found. Everything has a cause. Why doesn't God have a cause? Because God, being outside the universe as shown by the fact that He caused it, doesn't fit our ideas of cause or effect. God is different than universe things. If He has a cause within Himself, it is so different than our idea of cause, that we can't understand it, just like we can't understand outside-the-universe.

"Atheism" is the simplest, poorest, silliest religion around. Atheists don't want to acknowledge the fact of things staring them right in the face. "Don't want." An atheist is such because of his desires, not because of logic.

[Lambowei]

Since nobody can think about everything, either in pieces or as a whole, how in the world will anyone ever be able to think about something that is outside of the universe? Or how would anyone KNOW that there isn't something outside the universe?

The universe is everything by definition. Thus talking about something "outside the universe" is just nonsense.

Since everything has a cause, and even the idea that something might not have a cause has a cause, what is the cause of the universe? Even Hawking, in some of his final writings, says that there was a cause that caused the universe.

You say everything has a cause, but that's your belief, it's not science.

Before the universe existed, something was there that gave the universe its existence. We can say "before," because "after" the creation there was time. So, we can say before, because time exists now, after, and we are within that time, saying "before."

You say "before the universe existed", but there's no before the existence of the universe because from what we know time was created with the universe. Thus you're just using bullshit arguments to "demonstrate" your religious nonsensical belief.

Playing with the Jesus-idea is not relevant to the idea of atheism. "Jesus" is an idea that comes after there is understanding of the existence of God. You might as well say Pete, or Sam, or Joe if you don't understand that God exists. So, why bring Jesus into it?... except that you naturally know that God exists?

You're playing down it, but your bs religion is full of bullshit, like bushes in fire that talk to people and zombies that are the saviour.

[af_newbie]

You're unusually slow today? Outside the universe, it was something made up of cause without internal effect. It caused the universe, as an experiment, to see what effect was like.

Your logic is broken. Causality doesn't work like you're describing, it's a physical concept. You're generalizing the concept, and then not checking the generalization (because you can't). That's just not scientific, whatever you may think.

From what we know, there was just no time as a concept at the start of the universe, so there's no point in trying to talk about causality as we understand it.

Also, you talk about "outside the universe" but that's anti-scientific crap: the universe is the concept of everything from the scientific perspective, so if there was something "outside" the universe, it wouldn't be out but part of the universe.

Anyway, of course you won't understand anything of what I'm saying. It's in your religious interest to reach your preconceived "truth", your archaic belief about a zombie jesus etc.

https://i.imgur.com/xeqSGHc.jpg

Since nobody can think about everything, either in pieces or as a whole, how in the world will anyone ever be able to think about something that is outside of the universe? Or how would anyone KNOW that there isn't something outside the universe?

Since everything has a cause, and even the idea that something might not have a cause has a cause, what is the cause of the universe? Even Hawking, in some of his final writings, says that there was a cause that caused the universe.

Before the universe existed, something was there that gave the universe its existence. We can say "before," because "after" the creation there was time. So, we can say before, because time exists now, after, and we are within that time, saying "before."

Playing with the Jesus-idea is not relevant to the idea of atheism. "Jesus" is an idea that comes after there is understanding of the existence of God. You might as well say Pete, or Sam, or Joe if you don't understand that God exists. So, why bring Jesus into it?... except that you naturally know that God exists?

In the universe, complexity is not known to come from something simple, except that something way more complex "programmed" the simple to produce the complex. This means that whatever created the universe was way more complex than the universe. And since the mind of man is here, the Creator was mentally way more complex, as well.

Make it easy on yourself. Call it God, because "God" fits the definition of that greater complexity. Calling It God doesn't mean that you know everything about It.

As science expands, and as more and more people become scientists, these scientists are logically following the above pattern. They might not be using the word God, but they are describing Something/Someone that fits the basic idea of the definition. It's only logical from the things that exist that God exists, by whatever name you want to call Him.

There isn't any pure random that we have found. Everything has a cause. Why doesn't God have a cause? Because God, being outside the universe as shown by the fact that He caused it, doesn't fit our ideas of cause or effect. God is different than universe things. If He has a cause within Himself, it is so different than our idea of cause, that we can't understand it, just like we can't understand outside-the-universe.

"Atheism" is the simplest, poorest, silliest religion around. Atheists don't want to acknowledge the fact of things staring them right in the face. "Don't want." An atheist is such because of his desires, not because of logic.

Nice programming, lol.  Let's face it, your 'God' fucked up.