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October 10, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
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Maybe you should have bought a Neptune then!! Wink

(joking)
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October 10, 2014, 09:34:42 PM
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I find it hilarious how you were going off on the SP-TECH forums about how they didn't meet their specs and how they failed to deliver on their promises (at least they gave refunds as requested right ?)
when you were ordering from the most corrupt company in the history of the bit coin hardware game , the balls on you brah must be outrageous

I treat 'em all the same mate. You should be following all the KNC forum threads if you want a real laugh.
SP/KNC/Alpha/MAT/Bitmain/etc  are all cut from the same cloth. Its a shame really because it is killing the crypto scene.

I'll be happy to revisit my Titan decision in a year after the fat lady sings. But for now, I'd guess my chances of earning a ROI with the Titan are still better than yours with a SP30/1/5

Face it, Bitcoin is in the do-do now and so are you.

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I would not say that about SP ...they 'offered me" a refund ..that they did not have to give from a post on their thread on bitcointalk.....due to the fact for home miner use
the sp30 was not gonna cut it.....noise 60db the increase in watts from something like 2300w or some such to 3300w or some such. and down from their 6.5 TH to 4.5 TH
even with the compensation paid back to consumers in OCT to compensate at same GH to $$$ ratio (hey KNC you could learn something here)..and of course their hosting option
I also felt I had to do because the  above was really gonna cramp me up as a home miner.....they sent and email offering a refund from my forum post

Others also have requested and gotten refunds from the above at spondoolies like me who did not follow the forum on bitcointalk and learn about this promptly....

man I'd take back every bad thing I ever said about KNC even them going the data hall route back in jan against their previously stated intentions......hell ...I'd encourage
everyone to send them xmas gifts!......if they really do expect imho any of past customers to go the arctic cloud route in the future a truly obvious and 'self-less' gesture is required any of our trust back

alas an't gonna happen...I doubt they will even extend their warrenty to those who have had their Titans sitting around for the last 3 weeks as doorstops because of
the quality of the product and firmware issues

man I'd really like to be dead wrong....but if it comes between $$$ and Kurt and the Tech support guys....who probably would LOVE to be able to show some love in this
area.....from this last year KNC always always goes for the bucks vs the right thing.......its how they roll now... BFL as the scam king is dead...long live the new king KNC

but yeah you'd think they'd just wrap up the product line in a more sensible manner then this torch and burn the customers with a lousy product method

sad to say...a far cry from the company I dealt with last fall...guality of product and morals etc...I guess it is true money truly does corrupt....



"KNC is not just violating the mandatory 14-day refund laws in their country, but they are refusing to offer refunds for products that they aren’t even shipping in the promised time-frame."  Angry

The problem is if you do not accept the Titan I'm sure KNC will do what BFL did in their dispute....they will take your order out of que and you have zip....no Titan and
if KNC wins or stalls long enough no compensation either ...so it is a gamble....imho...although as Titan drops in value maybe less and less of one

could be an all or nothing bet....you get a refund....or you get nothing (by the time you did get it after litigation i mean like 9 months from now ..if you did not win)

anyway pondering this option...no idea which way I will jump yet accept the unit or refuse it

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October 11, 2014, 04:38:03 AM
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Hi,

Have anyone here use the newly KnC wallet? I can't wait to mine ltc with my titan and store my bitcoin in kncwallet. Wink

You must be broken. Why would you use KNC wallet after what they did to Titan and Neptune customers, other alternatives exist.

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October 11, 2014, 07:01:43 AM
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yea, KnC is almost the same scam as BFL. Their latest trick are the bonus miners which they did not send.

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October 11, 2014, 08:27:25 AM
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So are there any batch 2 Neptune customers who haven't received their machines ?

Are there any people who have received their free Neptune ?

Are there people with outstanding RMA issues on the Neptune ?
Still waiting for news of my bonus Neptune. It's starting to feel like a con.

I guess they need to fill a few more Datorhalls first...

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October 11, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
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Hi,

Have anyone here use the newly KnC wallet? I can't wait to mine ltc with my titan and store my bitcoin in kncwallet. Wink

You must be broken. Why would you use KNC wallet after what they did to Titan and Neptune customers, other alternatives exist.

*When the money disappears from your wallet in a massive KNC scam, they will point you to the fine print and terms. Based on their current behavior this is not too far-fetched 


You either missed the winky or you have no sense of humor.
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October 11, 2014, 08:57:15 AM
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Hi,

Have anyone here use the newly KnC wallet? I can't wait to mine ltc with my titan and store my bitcoin in kncwallet. Wink

You must be broken. Why would you use KNC wallet after what they did to Titan and Neptune customers, other alternatives exist.

*When the money disappears from your wallet in a massive KNC scam, they will point you to the fine print and terms. Based on their current behavior this is not too far-fetched 


You either missed the winky or you have no sense of humor.

haha . Totally missed the winky before now!
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October 11, 2014, 09:20:10 AM
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Fly on the wall at the KNC staff meeting recently:

"Crap, BTC is in the toilet. We never expected this. Our business model assumes a minimum of $500 BTC."
What is this "bitcoin" you speak of? Is that what we dump on the exchanges every day?


"OMG, what are we going to do ? I just bought a nice new BMW for my girl friend"
... you know, that hot 180lb blonde on that handball team that we sponsor. Don't tell my wife, please!

"I know … we'll dedicate all of our production to Neptunes. We can ship them to our DC instead of to customers and mine the crap out of BTC while the going is good. Then we'll launch cloud mining and sell over priced mining contracts to stupid people. The stuff we can't sell we'll just mine and dump on the market"
But we've been doing this same thing since before the first Jupiter shipped.


"But what about all the Titan customers?
Customers? Since when do we care about customers? Hahaha!


"We've got problems with the Titan that we'd rather not talk about"
So let's pretend there is no problem and do nothing. We're very good at that!

"We'll build and ship a few before October and then announce that we made our comittments."
You know, exactly like we did with the Jupiter... and then with the Neptunes. These idiot customers never seem to catch on, lol.

"Shouldn't we wait until the Titan  works right and is reliable before we start to ship ? We're having DC/DC, SPI and urgent setwork/flush problems like crazy right now"
You're fired!


"No, we can always blame the pools or something. I'll tell our customer relationship management people to tell everybody we are working around the clock to make it right. Yeah, thats what we'll do. We'll just say that the pools aren't ready to handle the massive power of the Titan. Make sure we disable load balancing too."
Kurt, you have have been promoted!

"But people won't believe us"
You know what? You can join Sven and that Brit that we fired last year... sorry, forgot his name... in the unemployment line!

"Wo cares ?  We can always pay a couple of the paparazzi press to run our story in their rags."
You too are promoted!

"We gotta mine the crap out of BTC asap or we'll be looking for jobs"
Lol, jobs?! We have so much bitcoin stashed away, we'll never have to work again! Oh shit! Are those guys that I fired still here?!


"Umm … that wouldn't be good. I doubt if anyone would give us work after the Neptune and Titan debacles"
Did you not just hear me?! We won't have to worry about having a job ever! With all of the BTC WE scammed... um... err... earned plus all of that VC money that they threw at us, work is the last thing we'll ever have to worry about.



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October 11, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
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I just found that..

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October 11, 2014, 01:21:30 PM
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All information is at our factory. We can not tell you when your machine will ship.

I have already answered this questions, I am afraid.

At this moment, that is all I know

We have issued 3 firmware patches and there are still serious functional and reliability problems but we met our Q3 commitment

We can't tell you more about your bonus Neptune

We can not tell you when you will receive your refund.

There are no refunds on the Titan as has been communicated many times here.

Hardware doesn't work ? Try a different pool. We are closing your support ticket.

Its all the pool's fault.

KNC ………… the Know Nothing Company

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October 11, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
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I just found that..



are the Butterfingers included? Or are these Butthurts?
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October 11, 2014, 05:06:09 PM
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lets see how this works

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October 11, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
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So they are really scaming their customers ? Seemed from the start that they are very honest company.
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October 11, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
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lets see how this works

May I venture a guess? It doesn't.

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Probably an acquaintance of a KNC-"victim".
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October 11, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
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Seemed from the start that they are very honest company.
No. Their behavior was arrogant and suspicious from the very first day, and many pointed that out.

By the way. I can't help blaming the victims here a little.. Remember, the sole purpose of a company is to make money. If they sell you miner hardware for less than it'll make in reasonable time, they have failed as a company.
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October 11, 2014, 09:36:41 PM
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the website kncclassaction.com  is not working.
I just wonder if we still can claim for the faulty Jupiters .... perhaps there is limitation or something....
but this lawyer is from US, you need a Swedish law firm actually

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October 12, 2014, 02:59:56 AM
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Seemed from the start that they are very honest company.
No. Their behavior was arrogant and suspicious from the very first day, and many pointed that out.

By the way. I can't help blaming the victims here a little.. Remember, the sole purpose of a company is to make money. If they sell you miner hardware for less than it'll make in reasonable time, they have failed as a company.

 You've failed as a rational human being if you really believe that.  I guess Alchip failed as a company too since it sold the chips to KNC for less than the chips would mine?
Any company that continues to do "business" your way will surely fail.  The main purpose of a company is to fulfill a need.

 Here is Alchip's purpose:


Alchip Technologies is dedicated to rapid delivery of cutting-edge ASIC solutions to our customers. We have a proven track record of first silicon successes at the 130nm, 90nm, and 65nm nodes. Our total engineering and business solution strategy ensures that our customers receive quality SoC product solutions on-time or ahead of schedule. Our dedicated teams of engineering, logistic, and business professionals understand and address to our customers' needs. Alchip is the trusted silicon partner for implementing and delivering SoCs so that our clients can focus on what they do best.


 Here is Southwest Airline's purpose:

To connect People to what's important in their lives through friendly, reliable, and low-cost air travel.

 Imagine how long they would be around if they sold you a seat on a flight going to Las Vegas from New York and then they delayed the flight by a couple of weeks, it cost 3 times more than any other airline's seat when you finally did get on the flight and it took you to Miami instead... they would fail.

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October 12, 2014, 03:27:55 AM
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I posted these observations on KNC Forums...reposting here for anyone interested (or not feel free to use /ignore I don't know you I don't mind)

Anyway some may be overstated below ..some may be understated...but all are relevant imho even if the Titan had arrived in good working order
at 300mh and worked with mulitipools

anyway for your consideration




Premise:

Setting aside the NO ROI Titan at 300mh vs the batch 2 and 3 400mh units at much cheaper prices (and a better deal) and the fact for a bit that the units ARE NOT working anywhere near consistently at 300mh or on multi-pools (mentally sets it aside) In other words assuming they COULD work on the above out of the box fixed....you still have the below issues that us
DIY customers (businesses that we are to KNC so to speak) have to deal with even if the above Titan did work well at 300mh no issues and multi-pooled..

observations:

well then you have below

the units just plain not working with the cubes..cables mis-wired ..controllers w/o plugs or tore wires etc

the fact with a 90 day warranty some titan front end users have lost 1 month on the warranty w/o having firmware availble to keep the beasts up

they say it is 1100w at the wall ..well...it seems to be more like between from posts 1300w to 1540w I've seen

the need for 2 power supplies to run an 1100w supposed Titan

the need for Y adapters (which knc will supply late) due to OCP problems with modern power supplies

frequent restarts and such not being able to keep cores up in any manner (firmware or worse)

emails to customers wanting to send back obvious (not firmware) parts/equip back and being tolk KNC is unsure when they can get around to fixing and returning such

no contact or help asked (give luke jr a miner already) of the BFGminer software ...seems like a don't ask don't tell problem...seems to me knc shooting self in foot on this one

the bad press for all this imho far outweighs SOME kinda compenation (notice i did not say what i leave that to KNC) but KNC is adamant NO compensation for unworkable shipped product

the fact they are shipping unworkable product in the first place is somewhat puzzling

they did NOT make their timeline....again no compensation for such

the plain out LIE about the units being able to do scrypt-N ...which seems an unlikely dream at this point seeings how support and warrenty ends in 90 days

the fact KNC has stated this is their last consumer product they are going all arctic cloud now (notice no Titans or Neptunes for sale on products page)

the fact KNC did not lower or adjust prices to industry standards as time went on to sell these units..ie never changed the price in 3 months ..ie they are out of it imho

people who ask for a refund are no longer answered in email for tech support issues (or so folks have said on here and bitcointalk)

likely if you did send back or refuse the Titan under 14 day return policy under swedish law..they would simply keep it ..no refund ...you'd get it maybe eventually

anyway probably more...but if even HALF of the above is simply HYPE as KNC would see it....does not bode very well does it?
















 

 

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October 12, 2014, 10:18:53 AM
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Hi,
Can somebody explain how do I can ssh to the raspberry pi of my Titan? ID: pi PW: raspberry doesn't work.

I can also report the same problem as pretty much everybody else. The last cube, only 1/2 the ASICs work. I am running firmware 1.0.4.

Also curious as to know which pools are actually working for people as none of the KNC suggested ones work for me.
Thanks.
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October 12, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
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Hi,
Can somebody explain how do I can ssh to the raspberry pi of my Titan? ID: pi PW: raspberry doesn't work.

I can also report the same problem as pretty much everybody else. The last cube, only 1/2 the ASICs work. I am running firmware 1.0.4.

Also curious as to know which pools are actually working for people as none of the KNC suggested ones work for me.
Thanks.

Use the same password you have set via the web-gui.
Works for both root and pi, but for accessing the screen use pi.

You can fetch details for each die's proc this way:
Code:
/home/pi/bfgminer/bfgminer-rpc procs > proc_details.txt

Maybe you can get it running by playing a little with the voltages (advanced page in web GUI)

Regarding pools, just try some.

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