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May 14, 2014, 01:36:12 PM
Last edit: May 14, 2014, 01:51:44 PM by poodle63
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No, this time not tsmc, otherwise we already receive delivery schedule, this is the problem at all~ tsmc will give knc chip with in 2 month no one can compete, and give service of process debug and check before produce chip to avoid design flaw, so obviously knc put order to other semiconductor manufacturer, also I just guess IP core not get well protected by fab and by why other maker ship miner already as a prove of my point, dog eat dog, better await few weeks while other brand's miner earlier fail, and we get our moner from KNCMINER that time, we're still the winner.    

From what I understand, you are very optimistic. Good luck with this.

thank you! we really need good luck to solve blocks, and get our future miner asap!  

And have to say, if knc fail at chip design more than twice, all pre order fund was gone already, if triple, then they were burned all capital they earned from Jupiter and data center, so there is no thing we can get till they announce bank-broke, and only thing we get is liquidation priority, no refund. 

and look at the size of data center, I guess they are have no problem with 20nm chips, only concern is how much benefit they would like to share with us, that's all!

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May 14, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
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and look at the size of data center, I guess they are have no problem with 20nm chips, only concern is how much benefit they would like to share with us, that's all!

Are you kidding? You were told today that running data center is expensive.
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I encourage everyone - especially KnC-clients in the US and Canada - to file a report here:

http://www.ripoffreport.com

First of all, this very often gets the attention of lawyers and media, secondly to warn possible future clients....
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May 14, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
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and look at the size of data center, I guess they are have no problem with 20nm chips, only concern is how much benefit they would like to share with us, that's all!

Are you kidding? You were told today that running data center is expensive.
Wher you look at I said running data center is expensive?

The only concern of data center is to get enough miner space and experienced labor and power and network, to work, and I guess the flaw chips were gone to their datacenter, and we call this process "burn in",it used to dig out earlier failur product and enhance next design, of course you can ask knc to ship those board to you, but you will take the chance or risk.

Normal this stage take 3000hour to test, and check the way knc lay miner board, I can told is they are still testing durability and improving design, so this is my point they will burn all cash if they couldn't ship by this month, and imagine that even Apple kind super huge company, they are just invent new CPU once an year, so look back to knc, you should grateful about their giving, personally felt, pre order fund already burned, now they are using their capital to struggling.

If you are earning money from Jupiter last year, just offer help not to refund at while let say a month, then we will have answer!

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May 14, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
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and look at the size of data center, I guess they are have no problem with 20nm chips, only concern is how much benefit they would like to share with us, that's all!

Are you kidding? You were told today that running data center is expensive.
Wher you look at I said running data center is expensive?

The only concern of data center is to get enough miner space and experienced labor and power and network, to work, and I guess the flaw chips were gone to their datacenter, and we call this process "burn in",it used to dig out earlier failur product and enhance next design, of course you can ask knc to ship those board to you, but you will take the chance or risk.

Normal this stage take 3000hour to test, and check the way knc lay miner board, I can told is they are still testing durability and improving design, so this is my point they will burn all cash if they couldn't ship by this month, and imagine that even Apple kind super huge company, they are just invent new CPU once an year, so look back to knc, you should grateful about their giving, personally felt, pre order fund already burned, now they are using their capital to struggling.

If you are earning money from Jupiter last year, just offer help not to refund at while let say a month, then we will have answer!

"“Normally, tests go on for two months. We tested for twenty minutes before we went out with the product. But they work to this day,” says Andreas Kennemar. "
http://www.va.se/special/knc-miner-631834

No 3000 hours there, or this time either.
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May 14, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
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3000hr is thermal accretion test, it would equal to 2 month.

Normally many time Spanish 1000 to 4800, all were thermal accreted.

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May 14, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
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and look at the size of data center, I guess they are have no problem with 20nm chips, only concern is how much benefit they would like to share with us, that's all!

Are you kidding? You were told today that running data center is expensive.
Wher you look at I said running data center is expensive?


You were told by KnC in their news report today.
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May 14, 2014, 03:58:01 PM
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Building a DC with customers' pre-order money isn't tough. I guess it gets expensive when the ponzi scheme starts to collapse when your "investors" want refunds. There must be someone worth 2 cents at KnC if they are giving out refunds. They other ratbag outfits just run off. Still not a fan of them, but they don't all seem to be complete asshats.
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May 14, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
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Calling their Super Jupiters CRA*** MINERS brought me a deletion of my blog post of KnC's latest "Update" and this final warning:

Hi,

I have seen that you are frequently using bad language on our forum. While I understand that you have a problem and that you are frustrated, language like this is not tolerated and is extremely distasteful.

Please use this as your final warning. Any further obscene language used will result in your account being banned.

Dear Kurt, Dear KnC!

May I tell you in a very polite language that I feel SCAMMED. I feel betrayed and I feel cheated. I feel having been made FUN of with your latest update in which you state:

Finally, we'd like to add that we really appreciate our customers' investments in our state-of-the-art chip designs and we'll make sure our customers get the most out of these upcoming aggressive KnC-designed advantages.

I have been one of your first customers and I have invested quite a lot of money in your company. I made the HUGE mistake trusting your words and converting a Neptune to a Super Jupiter as I do not believe you will ship out in time after Q1 has well passed. I got sent a pile of broken ASIC boards in thin aluminium cases, no protection for the controller boards and parts have been fallen off...

A replacement shipment was not better. Boards are not working and even shut down my PSU's. During a 12 hour testing period your miners reached 113 degrees Celsius, which Kurt commented is no problem as they are designed to run up to 130 degrees Celsius.

I am sorry that I strongly disagree with this assessment, so does my technician. I do not think that your miners are safe to run in my private household.

You refer to your Terms & Conditions and suddenly I am not a customer but I am a business and KnC doesn't take any responsibility for their products/

SERIOUSLY?HuhHuh

I sit on a pile of "wonderful greatly engineered Bitcoin miners" but I do not have the confidence nor trust to run them without supervision even if Kurt replaces all the broken ASIC boards as he constantly asks me to RMA them. I have been told that I will not get a refund even I am willing to return all of their miners to them.....

But I get news that KnC is opening a "wonderful 'new cutting edge' data center" - I am still asking myself if this data center is running on the same "wonderful greatly engineered Bitcoin miners, the same model as the Super Jupiters" Huh?

Kurt, please end this now...we, all of the Super Jupiter customers who are not happy with their 10.000 - 13.000 USD investment ask you to return those wonderful miners to you, you can put them back into your data centre in Sweden and PLEASE REFUND US THE MONEY.

Do you really want more and more bad publicity, court trials, media reports?

WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SECOND HAND MATERIAL WE GOT SENT

WE DO NOT FEEL SECURE TO RUN IT

IF YOU THINK ITS NOT OUR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THIS, THEN PLEASE CENSOR ALSO THIS MESSAGE.

I AM UPSET, YES, I WORKED HARD TO GET 10.000 USD TOGETHER TO BUY A NEPTUNE. I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE QUEUE, STAYED UP LATE JUST TO MAKE IT FIRST IN THE LINE.

I HAVE LOST TRUST IN KNC. I DO NOT THINK YOU WILL EVER SHIP YOUR NEPTUNES AND YOUR REFUSAL TO GIVE REFUNDS ON THE TITAN INDICATE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO BUILD THEM EVEN.

BUT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM

WE ARE UNHAPPY. WE DEMAND TO GET OUR MONEY BACK. PUT YOUR WONDERFUL SUPER JUPITERS BACK IN YOUR DATA CENTRE AND GIVE US BACK THE MONEY

WE WONT BE SILENT.

It's a lot of money for us. We feel betrayed. We are your customers. How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?

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May 14, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
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poodle honestly, your not helping.

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Just share some process to everyone, miners is getting expensive.
and you should do some research to know more.

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 How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?


...And how were we treated with "dignity" again?  I must have missed that part.


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May 14, 2014, 05:09:15 PM
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 How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?


...And how were we treated with "dignity" again?  I must have missed that part.

i got a newsletter  Grin lucky me.
chip specs for the titan??!! WTF... where are the chip specs for the Neptune!?

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 How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?


...And how were we treated with "dignity" again?  I must have missed that part.

i got a newsletter  Grin lucky me.
chip specs for the titan??!! WTF... where are the chip specs for the Neptune!?
Yeah dammit!  I feel so abused and abandoned now... with dignity, of course.


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May 14, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
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Calling their Super Jupiters CRA*** MINERS brought me a deletion of my blog post of KnC's latest "Update" and this final warning:

Hi,

I have seen that you are frequently using bad language on our forum. While I understand that you have a problem and that you are frustrated, language like this is not tolerated and is extremely distasteful.

Please use this as your final warning. Any further obscene language used will result in your account being banned.

Dear Kurt, Dear KnC!

May I tell you in a very polite language that I feel SCAMMED. I feel betrayed and I feel cheated. I feel having been made FUN of with your latest update in which you state:

Finally, we'd like to add that we really appreciate our customers' investments in our state-of-the-art chip designs and we'll make sure our customers get the most out of these upcoming aggressive KnC-designed advantages.

I have been one of your first customers and I have invested quite a lot of money in your company. I made the HUGE mistake trusting your words and converting a Neptune to a Super Jupiter as I do not believe you will ship out in time after Q1 has well passed. I got sent a pile of broken ASIC boards in thin aluminium cases, no protection for the controller boards and parts have been fallen off...

A replacement shipment was not better. Boards are not working and even shut down my PSU's. During a 12 hour testing period your miners reached 113 degrees Celsius, which Kurt commented is no problem as they are designed to run up to 130 degrees Celsius.

I am sorry that I strongly disagree with this assessment, so does my technician. I do not think that your miners are safe to run in my private household.

You refer to your Terms & Conditions and suddenly I am not a customer but I am a business and KnC doesn't take any responsibility for their products/

SERIOUSLY?HuhHuh

I sit on a pile of "wonderful greatly engineered Bitcoin miners" but I do not have the confidence nor trust to run them without supervision even if Kurt replaces all the broken ASIC boards as he constantly asks me to RMA them. I have been told that I will not get a refund even I am willing to return all of their miners to them.....

But I get news that KnC is opening a "wonderful 'new cutting edge' data center" - I am still asking myself if this data center is running on the same "wonderful greatly engineered Bitcoin miners, the same model as the Super Jupiters" Huh?

Kurt, please end this now...we, all of the Super Jupiter customers who are not happy with their 10.000 - 13.000 USD investment ask you to return those wonderful miners to you, you can put them back into your data centre in Sweden and PLEASE REFUND US THE MONEY.

Do you really want more and more bad publicity, court trials, media reports?

WE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SECOND HAND MATERIAL WE GOT SENT

WE DO NOT FEEL SECURE TO RUN IT

IF YOU THINK ITS NOT OUR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THIS, THEN PLEASE CENSOR ALSO THIS MESSAGE.

I AM UPSET, YES, I WORKED HARD TO GET 10.000 USD TOGETHER TO BUY A NEPTUNE. I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE QUEUE, STAYED UP LATE JUST TO MAKE IT FIRST IN THE LINE.

I HAVE LOST TRUST IN KNC. I DO NOT THINK YOU WILL EVER SHIP YOUR NEPTUNES AND YOUR REFUSAL TO GIVE REFUNDS ON THE TITAN INDICATE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO BUILD THEM EVEN.

BUT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM

WE ARE UNHAPPY. WE DEMAND TO GET OUR MONEY BACK. PUT YOUR WONDERFUL SUPER JUPITERS BACK IN YOUR DATA CENTRE AND GIVE US BACK THE MONEY

WE WONT BE SILENT.

It's a lot of money for us. We feel betrayed. We are your customers. How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?


they want me to send back the 18+7 boards that dont work, then theyll send 7 back to me.  So far ive found 9 partly working boards.  It will have to be shipped on my dime too, no ups or dhl here.  
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May 14, 2014, 05:24:01 PM
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I thought they said the first shipment was ours to keep?
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 How about treating us with the same dignity as the ones you sent the newsletter to?


...And how were we treated with "dignity" again?  I must have missed that part.

i got a newsletter  Grin lucky me.
chip specs for the titan??!! WTF... where are the chip specs for the Neptune!?

No chip spec for the Neptune, but they reminded everyone once again that they will open a cloud mining service which will compete with their own customers and which will make their customers earn less bitcoins after they promised that they will NOT compete with their customers. Good job KnC! Fucking liars! Mega fail!

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We can of course offer you any RMA boards that are broken.

I am assuming that the complete 18 ASIC boards from the 1st shipment are completely destroyed and that you are talking about the 7 ASIC boards from the replacement shipment that are broken.

In that case, you will need to send back the original 18 ASIC boards + the 7 from the replacement shipment that are broken. Once we receive these we can then issue you the 7 boards to complete your 3TH/s unit.

Please let me know if that is correct?

Med vänlig hälsning |  Best regards

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So, if received on or before the 28th?
I think yours were already mailed at that point, right?
Friggin' lame.
So, yeah, looks like he thought there would be good boards left from the original,
Keeps on sucking worse and worse this Franken-Deal.


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May 14, 2014, 05:46:34 PM
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So, if received on or before the 28th?
I think yours were already mailed at that point, right?
Friggin' lame.
So, yeah, looks like he thought there would be good boards left from the original,
Keeps on sucking worse and worse this Franken-Deal.


Don't think there is any honesty nor money left in KnC...they are bankrupt...they went Gox

Refunds take more and more time to process
They prefer to have a court trial over the Super Jupiter crap they sent us
Refuse refunds on Titans
No product updates on Neptunes

KnC is bust....

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