Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[midyatspor]

And an official update...

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-94

Neptune In Assembly.

We’re pleased to announce touch-down of the first batch of our new 20 nanometer Neptune processors. They are now going through the testing/tweaking/assembly stage in Sweden and shipping will commence this week.


A World First 20-Nanometer Design
The Neptune is a formidable technological achievement. It is the first commercially available 20 nanometer processor shipped to end users. KnCMiner can take pride in beating all competitors to the 20nm stage, including the likes of Intel, Apple and Samsung.

The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packacing. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less.

However, there are margins built into our design and the software running our chips can only improve from today on. All future software updates to raise the hashing speed will be free of charge.


Software Updates
We've reached our initial targets on speed and power consumption. But as this is the first day we’ve had the Neptune in our lab our technicians have already implemented a few tricks to increase hashing speed and we’ll release updates to our firmware shortly.

The first two batches of the Neptune miner is all sold-out. Batch three is available for pre-order now in our web shop. Watch this space for more info on upcoming products based on our new state-of-the-art 20nm design process.

We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week and to Batch 2 pre-order customers before the end of the month.

Those are enclosures with fans only. No electronics it seems. Okay, might be in assembly but if they're shipping by the end of this week, why no specs so people can get power supplies? Something still isn't right with all this.

Looks like the power connector is on the side.

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[tolip_wen]

20nm  @  ~0.7W/GH    

Talk about a fail.

On another note: I really hope there's more than one (1) 6-pin PCI-E plug per box.

According to a photo posted here previously (within the last few days) there is only one power connection per PCB.

I predict something similar to the Oct 'caps on fire' production delay when the cables carrying 400W each start to fail outside of the test environment.

When (not If) any one of the 6 wires has a poor crimp or stretched socket it will not be pretty.

YMMV

[tzortz]

How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?
 

[SgtMoth]

they better ship unassembled...shipping these freaks me out...same fucken tin, is the heatsink tied down, prob not...definately NOT!  Another shipping FAIL coming!!!!

[pedrosoft]

now, refunded customers, are VERY VERY VERY happy

[tzortz]

In what sense?

[jimmothy]

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Looks like 600gh per box.

Not a bad idea to break up the neptune if you ask me.

Gives much more flexibility as 2100w units are just inconvenient.

[Biffa]

How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?
 

I'd guess that 5 of those boxes makes a full neptune, so 3000/5=600GH per box. 600*0.7W/GH = 450W per box.

[tzortz]

This is more possible.

I can see there is the pcb board inside with the pci plug.

But probably no chip.

[Biffa]

This is more possible.

I can see there is the pcb board inside with the pci plug.

But probably no chip.

Maybe, time will tell.

Probably Neptune will ship before some refunds are processed.

[tzortz]

Finally looks like they will deliver within June.

But why don't they give some specs/info about their progress?

There is something behind.

[Biffa]

Finally looks like they will deliver within June.

But why don't they give some specs/info about their progress?

There is something behind.

Its quite common for them, remember what it was like on the run up to Jupiter launch?

As far as I am aware, they are still testing the boards and software to get optimal results, once they have something stable they will probably post.

Going to be an interesting week for those who have orders.

[rograz]

20nm  @  ~0.7W/GH    

Talk about a fail.

All it means is that those chips are clocked more towards their frequency ceiling than for efficiency, so for KNC it's a success since they get to send as few chips as possible to fulfill each order. They could easily have delivered sub 0,5W/GH but it would have cost them more to do so, so why would they?

[Marvell1]

How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?
 

I'd guess that 5 of those boxes makes a full neptune, so 3000/5=600GH per box. 600*0.7W/GH = 450W per box.

LOL really ?!! 5 machines = 1 Neptune , jeez why could they not have just split it into two 1.5TH boxes instead of 6x600

[Biffa]

20nm  @  ~0.7W/GH    

Talk about a fail.

All it means is that those chips are clocked more towards their frequency ceiling than for efficiency, so for KNC it's a success since they get to send as few chips as possible to fulfill each order. They could easily have delivered sub 0,5W/GH but it would have cost them more to do so, so why would they?

Also thats At-The-Wall numbers, take into account 80% efficiency PSU's and thats easily 0.56W chip level consumption. Not too bad really.

[Biffa]

How many PCI cables needed?
This is more or less 200Amp, or 10-12 pci 6 pin connectors?

2100W under a single fan?
Can those heat amounts be dissipated through that small construction?

Also, how is the heat being dissipated from the chip?

Water cooling? Or ? ? ?
 

I'd guess that 5 of those boxes makes a full neptune, so 3000/5=600GH per box. 600*0.7W/GH = 450W per box.

LOL really ?!! 5 machines = 1 Neptune , jeez why could they not have just split it into two 1.5TH boxes instead of 6x600

We have yet to see the final product, so its all guesswork fro now

[pedrosoft]

In what sense?

only 3 tera/hash !

[semaster]

LOL really ?!! 5 machines = 1 Neptune , jeez why could they not have just split it into two 1.5TH boxes instead of 6x600

How do you want to split 5 into 2 ?

[bitcoiner23]

I think "one Neptune" will be these 5 Boxes and a controller board/box.
Wikipedia say one 6 PIN PCI-E can handle 75W - 8 PIN 150W. And they want to deliver 450W through one 6 PIN?
As a refund customer i'll grab some popcorn and watch these things catch fire

A Mini Neptune will be 3 boxes and soon there will be solo boxes with ~500GH for ~$1000?
Compared to a RK-BOX ~440GH/S with 480W (they use 4*6PIN PCI-E) for $650 its a bad choice

[Syke]

Also thats At-The-Wall numbers, take into account 80% efficiency PSU's and thats easily 0.56W chip level consumption. Not too bad really.

Yeah, a 20nm chip that's about as efficient as Spondoolie's 40nm chip. Spondoolie's 28nm chip will slaughter KnC.