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June 24, 2014, 09:57:06 AM
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Hello
I have a question?
Is Neptune is marked with the CE mark and if so, what is the number?
Is it arrived Declaration of Conformity?
Please reply
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Do people really care if mining devices are marked with various government codes or is it just trolling. Are some countries really that finicky about such things? I received some pretty dodgy shit in the US from foreign countries and have never had a single issue.

A point of the CE mark, in this case, would be to ensure that the device was electrically safe, and wouldn't overheat and melt the power connectors.
Seems like that would be useful, no?

I can almost guarantee that it would never qualify for a CE mark in that case. I don't think many people would disagree with me at this point.
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June 24, 2014, 10:39:57 AM
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It is likely no CE markings are required on the Neptune boards.

Not all products sold in the EU need to have CE marking. CE marking only applies to products which fall under one or more EU Directives.  These determine the specific requirements that the product must meet in order to be CE marked. For example EU requirements for medical devices.

It is likely that the Neptune boards do not fall directly under any of the EU Directives.  In this case no CE marking is required.

Anyone saying the Neptune boards need CE markings need to specify the relevant EU Directive.  If there is no relevant directive there is no need for a CE marking.  It is likely that KNC would argue that bitcoin mining boards running at 12V (and which are not sold as general consumer products) do not need CE markings. 

See http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htm
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June 24, 2014, 10:44:50 AM
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Anyone saying the Neptune boards need CE markings need to specify the relevant EU Directive.  If there is no relevant directive there is no need for a CE marking.

This one: http://www.ce-marking.org/what-product.html
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3. Low Voltage Electrical Equipment
The "Electrical Equipment" means any equipment designed for use with a voltage rating of between 50 and 1000 V for alternating current (A.C.) and between 75 and 1500 V for direct current (D.C.). Therefore, it is called often "Low Voltage Electrical Equipment" which includes the vast majority of electrical equipment in everyday use.

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June 24, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
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Equipment is operating at 12V, which is below 50V....

This directive does not apply.
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June 24, 2014, 11:08:54 AM
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Equipment is operating at 12V, which is below 50V....

This directive does not apply.

That must be why they don't provide power supplies, to avoid being within the AC rating.

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June 24, 2014, 01:15:53 PM
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Neptune's arrived about five minutes ago - Batch#1 order paid for on the 26th November.

I'll let you guys know how they perform! Even though they are late (very late) I am a bit excited :-D

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If it is preconfigured with any pool details I will let everyone know.

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June 24, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



Nope, The SP30 is indeed a better deal, way better.


there is a group buy thread for a sp30 at 4500 getting started...i think it is the 2nd batch sept order?

on the other hand perhaps BTC ...just buy coin already is the better deal right now...awful lot of hash hitting the blockchain etc

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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.

2 1250 w power supplies me thinks?

on a side note i have a sept sp30 coming (yeah prob should have just bought coin) and a Titan so 2500w for sp30 and 1250 watts for the Titan.  Anyway hosting it in my cold
upper midwest basement (will likely need a/c in Aug/Sept)

anyway have a 100 amp service called elec inspector (have no central a/c and gas water heater etc) and he said it would have no problem on a 100 amp service even
running 3,750 watts on miner and 1 a/c unit in my bedroom and maybe a  small a/c unit in the basement casement window..just to monitor it..i live aloine also lite use
can be 'creative' on clothes drying and/or using the stove/oven if needed

so 'supposedly' i should be ok? (the elec company is gonna 'own my ass') also as a side note anyone that is 'inspired/er stupid' enough to host such in their basement the elec company said i could get 'commercial elec rates' in my house (residential neighborhood) ..the fees are more the rates are less I likely will only shave off 3c a kwh or so but what the heck

anyway what i think i know so far on the above (it changes daily what i think i know about stuff)

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Bedroom? How old are you? Do you just rent a room or a house or something? You have BIG balls if you are going to run an SP30 in a room. First it's huge. Double the size of the SP10 and weighs quite a bit. When shipped, it is considered "freight" and not a package because it weighs so much. I have 100 amp service, could get away with running my SP10 but the noise was too much. I can just see you....when trying to wash clothes have to turn the miners off, then switch back real quick after the last load. Is you stove electric to? Yikes, can't make that mac-n-cheese when mining away! Smiley


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June 24, 2014, 01:31:31 PM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.

6TH spon is only 2500 watts, pretty efficient.  But will only mine 4 BTC if it comes in beginning September  =:0

I was told they will try to ship them out around the 2nd week of September. So it is at least the 2nd week. Could be the 3rd or 4th.

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June 24, 2014, 01:43:37 PM
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perhaps it's not the miner which is a bad deal, but how the buyer uses it.


I have $5095

Option A: buy 8.5 bitcoin today

Option B: buy a 6 TH/s miner with delivery in september that will mine back in its lifetime less than 5 bitcoin (and thats assuming it is delivered beginning of september). Oh, and you still have to pay for power and rewiring your house.

Please do enlighten us all and tell us how a buyer could go for option B and possibly be better off than option A? What is your magic secret?

It is timing right now. Because KNC is dumping their Neptune's and adding a gooooooglemess of hashrate to the network it is not the best time to pre-order anything that cost $5095 and then you get it 2 months later. Also a couple other smaller companies selling hardware, not as quickly or in mass, but still getting it out there. You can't really lose then if you just buy the bitcoin. I always think in my mind it will go up, so that's why I say buy it!

If I can't get an SP30 at a ridiculously low price, then I'll just buy a few bitcoin and run my current hardware until it is not profitable, that's all. I'd love to stay in the mining community, but as I said before this summer is the last time for consumers. Going forward it all goes to the corporate fat assess and cloud based solutions, which will be a total scam. Think about it, why would a cloud hashing company sell/lease you any tera-hashes and let you actually make any money from it? I wish I had better writing skills to explain what's in head.

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June 24, 2014, 01:56:52 PM
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I was told they will try to ship them out around the 2nd week of September. So it is at least the 2nd week. Could be the 3rd or 4th.

This is just sad now. Until now SP-Tech had a great record when it comes to delivery and it has delivered before the announced date a couple of time already.

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June 24, 2014, 02:14:20 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2014, 02:30:55 PM by Anddos
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Neptune's arrived about five minutes ago - Batch#1 order paid for on the 26th November.

I'll let you guys know how they perform! Even though they are late (very late) I am a bit excited :-D



If it is preconfigured with any pool details I will let everyone know.



Coins per 24h at these conditions 0.1121 BTC
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June 24, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
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Ignominious gloating

people, why is it you feel the need to rub salt into the wounds of fellow miners?
We have all been burned at one point or another, and if you haven't been burned then you are either more mouth than money or a god-damn leprechaun with all the luck of the devil in you.

We all understand how to calculate what our own mining rigs will make in their return of investment and whether or not they will break even, so can I just make a plea here; for the benefit of the community as a whole... quit with the ignominious gloating about how rolled-over one or other of us have been? please? It does you no favours to make folk feel badly about our expensive purchases. Let owners of these rigs discuss them in peace.

rant over.

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June 24, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
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Bedroom? How old are you? Do you just rent a room or a house or something? You have BIG balls if you are going to run an SP30 in a room. First it's huge. Double the size of the SP10 and weighs quite a bit. When shipped, it is considered "freight" and not a package because it weighs so much. I have 100 amp service, could get away with running my SP10 but the noise was too much. I can just see you....when trying to wash clothes have to turn the miners off, then switch back real quick after the last load. Is you stove electric to? Yikes, can't make that mac-n-cheese when mining away! Smiley

100 amps isn't really much, I had that running in a tiny GPU farm in a small office. With the right cooling in place, it was nearly silent. If someone wanted to run an SP30 in a bedroom, I'm sure they could do it, and with the right mods it could be done well.

Not sure where you are in the world, but most american homes use 200-300 amp service.

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June 24, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
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HASHING SPEED OF NEW NEPUNE? Grin Grin Grin

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June 24, 2014, 02:53:45 PM
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Neptune's arrived about five minutes ago - Batch#1 order paid for on the 26th November.

I'll let you guys know how they perform! Even though they are late (very late) I am a bit excited :-D



If it is preconfigured with any pool details I will let everyone know.



What was the shipping weight on your package ?

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June 24, 2014, 02:59:12 PM
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Hello
I have a question?
Is Neptune is marked with the CE mark and if so, what is the number?
Is it arrived Declaration of Conformity?
Please reply
Regards
You know, they don't ship with PSU's....right?



15.5 kilos


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June 24, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
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Hello
I have a question?
Is Neptune is marked with the CE mark and if so, what is the number?
Is it arrived Declaration of Conformity?
Please reply
Regards
You know, they don't ship with PSU's....right?



15.5 kilos

Yes, I know. 15.5 kilos total ? Thanks.
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I was told they will try to ship them out around the 2nd week of September. So it is at least the 2nd week. Could be the 3rd or 4th.

3rd or 4th week of September ? For what, Neptune batch 3 ?
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June 24, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
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Equipment is operating at 12V, which is below 50V....

This directive does not apply.

That must be why they don't provide power supplies, to avoid being within the AC rating.

Do 12V PSUs with that kind of power connector that's on the Neptune PCBs exist? If they don't then it's obvious that you are using more than 50V for that equipment.

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I just hope for everyone's sake they don't up and leave for the month of July like last year.
It's a national industrial holiday.


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