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Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3006437 times)
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June 24, 2014, 02:37:17 AM
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must have got my tracking number sometime last night as well.
It appears they are actually shipping en masse.
did anyone notice if the hashrate spiked then dropped recently? <smirk>

I believe that the network hash rate is unknown and must be statistically inferred from number of transaction blocks found by the network in a given period of time taking into account the current difficulty.  Due to the probabilistic nature of solving a block, there is some inherent variance (which is also called luck) in the network hash rate.  This might be why it appears to be changing quickly.  I don't think you can pin it down to KNCminer at this time but certainly if you watch the rate over a longer time-frame it might be more telling.

Wait to see what the final figure is at diffchange time... any guesses?   
I'm guessing over 40% at this rate...

 My bet is 32%.  KNC has to be somewhat careful as batch 3 hasn't sold out yet Wink


Poor KnC only found 9 blocks today. That's over a 50% drop from a few days ago. What are they going to do only making $120,000 a day? We may need to start a foundation to support the starving bitcoin hardware manufacturers.
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June 24, 2014, 02:49:15 AM
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must have got my tracking number sometime last night as well.
It appears they are actually shipping en masse.
did anyone notice if the hashrate spiked then dropped recently? <smirk>

I believe that the network hash rate is unknown and must be statistically inferred from number of transaction blocks found by the network in a given period of time taking into account the current difficulty.  Due to the probabilistic nature of solving a block, there is some inherent variance (which is also called luck) in the network hash rate.  This might be why it appears to be changing quickly.  I don't think you can pin it down to KNCminer at this time but certainly if you watch the rate over a longer time-frame it might be more telling.

Wait to see what the final figure is at diffchange time... any guesses?   
I'm guessing over 40% at this rate...

 My bet is 32%.  KNC has to be somewhat careful as batch 3 hasn't sold out yet Wink


Poor KnC only found 9 blocks today. That's over a 50% drop from a few days ago. What are they going to do only making $120,000 a day? We may need to start a foundation to support the starving bitcoin hardware manufacturers.

y u miners no mine while shipping?

anyways, I'm glad to at least have a little piece of that hashrate when it floods the network again in a couple days.

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June 24, 2014, 03:14:00 AM
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I have it running now (I guess I'm the first...)

It does: about 3.3 Th  and 1950W at the wall (the internal ASIC-monitor gives about 1440W...I have no idea where the difference is going to).
The chip is running on 475 Mhz (and can be set to 500 {not tried yet}).

There is one new thing on the controller-board: on plug-6 there is a small display-board which gives info about the IP-address and Hash-speed (very nice)... but this means as well that 5 boxes is the maximum.

The one PCE-power plug isn't running hot {the fan is indeed pressing air through the hole}, but the cables are 44 degrees Celsius.




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June 24, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?


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June 24, 2014, 03:43:31 AM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

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Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



Nope, The SP30 is indeed a better deal, way better.

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June 24, 2014, 03:44:13 AM
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They are both bad deals.
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June 24, 2014, 04:19:34 AM
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Difficulty in Sept 35-50 B  ??
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June 24, 2014, 04:33:15 AM
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They are both bad deals.

Yuuuuup!


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June 24, 2014, 04:38:38 AM
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perhaps it's not the miner which is a bad deal, but how the buyer uses it.

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June 24, 2014, 05:28:40 AM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.
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June 24, 2014, 05:29:20 AM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



Nope, The SP30 is indeed a better deal, way better.


there is a group buy thread for a sp30 at 4500 getting started...i think it is the 2nd batch sept order?

on the other hand perhaps BTC ...just buy coin already is the better deal right now...awful lot of hash hitting the blockchain etc

Searing

Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.

2 1250 w power supplies me thinks?

on a side note i have a sept sp30 coming (yeah prob should have just bought coin) and a Titan so 2500w for sp30 and 1250 watts for the Titan.  Anyway hosting it in my cold
upper midwest basement (will likely need a/c in Aug/Sept)

anyway have a 100 amp service called elec inspector (have no central a/c and gas water heater etc) and he said it would have no problem on a 100 amp service even
running 3,750 watts on miner and 1 a/c unit in my bedroom and maybe a  small a/c unit in the basement casement window..just to monitor it..i live aloine also lite use
can be 'creative' on clothes drying and/or using the stove/oven if needed

so 'supposedly' i should be ok? (the elec company is gonna 'own my ass') also as a side note anyone that is 'inspired/er stupid' enough to host such in their basement the elec company said i could get 'commercial elec rates' in my house (residential neighborhood) ..the fees are more the rates are less I likely will only shave off 3c a kwh or so but what the heck

anyway what i think i know so far on the above (it changes daily what i think i know about stuff)

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June 24, 2014, 05:33:15 AM
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Neptune Third Batch 3.3TH/S for $6000. Delivery unknown.

Or

Spondoolie SP30 6TH/S for $5095 and these come with power supplies. Delivery September.

And I missing something?



6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.

6TH spon is only 2500 watts, pretty efficient.  But will only mine 4 BTC if it comes in beginning September  =:0
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June 24, 2014, 05:33:39 AM
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6TH and comes with power supplies. 2 x 2500 watt supplies? Going to have to put it in a data center. No way you can run it in your garage unless you do some major electrical work.

SP30 is 2500w in total
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June 24, 2014, 05:34:52 AM
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If Sam Arsecole keep increasing his hashrate, Bitcoin will loose it creditbility and price will fall.
Good job Sam arsehole.


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If Sam Arsecole keep increasing his hashrate, Bitcoin will loose it creditbility and price will fall.
Good job Sam arsehole.

Bigger hashrate is good, lying own customers is bad.

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If Sam Arsecole keep increasing his hashrate, Bitcoin will loose it creditbility and price will fall.
Good job Sam arsehole.

Bigger hashrate is good, lying own customers is bad.

If Sam Arsehole have 51% of the network,  it's all over.
I don't think that GREEDY bastard understand it.


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June 24, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
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perhaps it's not the miner which is a bad deal, but how the buyer uses it.


I have $5095

Option A: buy 8.5 bitcoin today

Option B: buy a 6 TH/s miner with delivery in september that will mine back in its lifetime less than 5 bitcoin (and thats assuming it is delivered beginning of september). Oh, and you still have to pay for power and rewiring your house.

Please do enlighten us all and tell us how a buyer could go for option B and possibly be better off than option A? What is your magic secret?

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June 24, 2014, 06:18:34 AM
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If Sam Arsecole keep increasing his hashrate, Bitcoin will loose it creditbility and price will fall.
Good job Sam arsehole.

Bigger hashrate is good, lying own customers is bad.

If Sam Arsehole have 51% of the network,  it's all over.
I don't think that GREEDY bastard understand it.

Just because he is a greedy bastard he will not do something to disrupt bitcoin network.

I have $5095

Option A: buy 8.5 bitcoin today

Option B: buy a 6 TH/s miner with delivery in september that will mine back in its lifetime less than 5 bitcoin (and thats assuming it is delivered beginning of september). Oh, and you still have to pay for power and rewiring your house.

Please do enlighten us all and tell us how a buyer could go for option B and possibly be better off than option A? What is your magic secret?

I will cross post this (original post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg7480675#msg7480675)

This has been discussed so many times already. As stated before I think there is a small misconception about the bitcoin ROI. Buying and holding 9 bitcoins raises the question of when you exchange them back to fiat or what are you doing with them while mining gives you more options.The way I see it it this:

- Exchange rate doesn't move for 6-12 months:
         - Buying and holding makes 0 profit;
         - Mining will show a profit because there is less incentive to deploy new hashpower
- Exchange rate goes up (fast or slow):
         - Buying and holding will show a profit, but uncertain because of the moment of exchanging. Will you exchange at 1000$, 1200$, 1500$ and so on. If you exchange 3 bitcoin at 1000$ and next month you have a 1200$ rate then you lost some profit there, while mining tends to smooth a bit this;
         - Mining will always show a profit if exchange rate goes up. I realize that it will be smaller than buying and holding if the exchange rate will go up fast, but since nobody doesn't know the future I prefer the conservative way instead of the lotto way.

There you have it. Out of 4 possibilities only 3 will show a profit and 2 out of 3 are from mining. It's everyone's choice how he plans his financing. All ROI discussions sums up to the above for me and I feel that it's a very over discussed general subject.

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June 24, 2014, 06:19:22 AM
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perhaps it's not the miner which is a bad deal, but how the buyer uses it.


I have $5095

Option A: buy 8.5 bitcoin today

Option B: buy a 6 TH/s miner with delivery in september that will mine back in its lifetime less than 5 bitcoin (and thats assuming it is delivered beginning of september). Oh, and you still have to pay for power and rewiring your house.

Please do enlighten us all and tell us how a buyer could go for option B and possibly be better off than option A? What is your magic secret?

there is no magic secret. i am no longer mining bitcoin (Option C)   Wink
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ADD: and it's nothing to do with reselling. I am mining, just not bitcoin.

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June 24, 2014, 06:37:49 AM
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Everyone knows the secret to earning bitcoins is by pimping spondoolies hardware.

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