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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2574471 times)
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June 20, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
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The PPS shows a lot of variance in daily payouts - why is that? But the p2Pool earnings are really low. Do you have any local data you can post for me? Your expected earnings based on a difficulty of 1600000 are

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10*10^9/2^32*24*3600*50/1.6e06 = 6.286 coins per day.

The p2Pool earnings are much less than that - around 18% expected daily earnings. Your PPS earnings are also a little on the low side, too, about 74% expected. Is there a lot of downtime? any reported problems on the p2Pool cluster?

actually that's a bad example as each pool i've been on uses a different address. and the payouts are all over. I'll cobble something together for you.
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June 20, 2012, 03:59:03 PM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.
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June 20, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.

As long as your stale rates on p2Pool are similar to everyone else's, stales won't affect your payout in p2Pool.

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June 20, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.

As long as your stale rates on p2Pool are similar to everyone else's, stales won't affect your payout in p2Pool.
... if true it wont affect your proportion of the payout ...
Is the correct wording.

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June 21, 2012, 01:27:24 AM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.

As long as your stale rates on p2Pool are similar to everyone else's, stales won't affect your payout in p2Pool.
... if true it wont affect your proportion of the payout ...
Is the correct wording.

True. So is it correct to say whatever your current doa/orphan rate is must be subtracted from your local hashrate in order to provide an actual estimate of shares received? That's what ChanceCoats123 was saying.


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June 21, 2012, 02:54:06 AM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.

As long as your stale rates on p2Pool are similar to everyone else's, stales won't affect your payout in p2Pool.
... if true it wont affect your proportion of the payout ...
Is the correct wording.

True. So is it correct to say whatever your current doa/orphan rate is must be subtracted from your local hashrate in order to provide an actual estimate of shares received? That's what ChanceCoats123 was saying.



Well you can see it as so, if the average DOA of p2pool network is 10% and the p2pool network runs at 200GH then the network is only really hashing away at 180GH due to 20GH going to waste.

So yes in effect he is losing 10% of his own hashrate in this deal but if the whole network is losing the same amount everyone is earning the same proportion of the earnings - lost earnings.

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June 21, 2012, 04:33:04 AM
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One must also question the efficiency of that miner. When I was still with P2pool, I was around 5% stales (still >100% efficiency), but that will deduct from the actual payout. PPS pools use lower difficulty shares and typically have much lower stale rates.

As long as your stale rates on p2Pool are similar to everyone else's, stales won't affect your payout in p2Pool.
... if true it wont affect your proportion of the payout ...
Is the correct wording.

True. So is it correct to say whatever your current doa/orphan rate is must be subtracted from your local hashrate in order to provide an actual estimate of shares received? That's what ChanceCoats123 was saying.



Well you can see it as so, if the average DOA of p2pool network is 10% and the p2pool network runs at 200GH then the network is only really hashing away at 180GH due to 20GH going to waste.

So yes in effect he is losing 10% of his own hashrate in this deal but if the whole network is losing the same amount everyone is earning the same proportion of the earnings - lost earnings.

So while this is a loss of earnings to miners, it can't account for the longer than average round lengths.

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June 21, 2012, 06:43:50 AM
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Maybe your wallet password is the same as your bitcoind connect password written in the conf?
If so, change your pasword! Too easy to steal your bitcoin in that setup.

Miner don't need any connection to any wallet.
Guiminer has only one spot for a password, which is for connecting to bitcoind/p2pool/pool. p2pool doesn't need and have a connection password, though?

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I did not even think i could run bitcoin in server mode without one, anyway this solved my problems, and now i am very happy my 61Mhash card is crunching at 102MHs now according to the stats  Grin
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June 21, 2012, 07:46:07 AM
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While appears message "LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for x.x minutes" p2pool_run.exe load one CPU core for 100%, it is normal?
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June 21, 2012, 08:33:43 AM
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Rav3n_pl forwarded me a link to his local p2Pool stats page, which was very useful.

Can anyone else do that? Or take a screenshot or something? You can pm me the screenshot so it wont end up public.

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June 21, 2012, 12:59:59 PM
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Rav3n_pl forwarded me a link to his local p2Pool stats page, which was very useful.

Can anyone else do that? Or take a screenshot or something? You can pm me the screenshot so it wont end up public.

I was sort of assuming that they would all have the same stats? I run a node that I don't mine to, and that I don't advertise on a fast box with a decent connection. Do you still want the url?

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June 21, 2012, 01:47:24 PM
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Rav3n_pl forwarded me a link to his local p2Pool stats page, which was very useful.

Can anyone else do that? Or take a screenshot or something? You can pm me the screenshot so it wont end up public.



These two pools are/were advertised publicly.. although it looks like p2pmining.com recently reset their stats. The other one goes from April to June.

http://p2pmining.com:9332/static/graphs.html

http://linode.bouton.name:9332/static/graphs.html
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June 21, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
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That's my node ! Smiley
I don't mine on it currently (waiting for the efficiency problems to be fixed) but I thought I'd left it up anyway as it runs like a boss with automatic updates and next to no maintenance time needed. It probably is in the 99.9 / 99.99% availability range so it is my backup pool...

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June 22, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
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Hi all,

has someone time to test my public node?

It has 0% Fee.

http://p2pool-cologne.dyndns.org:9332

Thanks

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June 23, 2012, 09:35:22 AM
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Update progress report: v4 sharehain is on 85%  of nodes!

If you still not have v3.1 update NOW!

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June 24, 2012, 05:42:38 AM
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any idea how to fix this error on start?

Code:
File "run_p2pool.py", line 3, in <module>
    from p2pool import main
  File "/Users/christian/p2pool/p2pool/main.py", line 22, in <module>
    from nattraverso import portmapper, ipdiscover
  File "/Users/christian/p2pool/nattraverso/ipdiscover.py", line 24, in <module>
    @defer.inlineCallbacks
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'inlineCallbacks'

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June 24, 2012, 08:28:21 AM
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any idea how to fix this error on start?

Code:
File "run_p2pool.py", line 3, in <module>
    from p2pool import main
  File "/Users/christian/p2pool/p2pool/main.py", line 22, in <module>
    from nattraverso import portmapper, ipdiscover
  File "/Users/christian/p2pool/nattraverso/ipdiscover.py", line 24, in <module>
    @defer.inlineCallbacks
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'inlineCallbacks'

Your python version is too old?

inlineCallbacks require version 2.5 or later
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Yep, update to 2.7  and install twisted and zope Smiley

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Update on github: commit 002d037ca1
Zipped scrs: https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/zipball/master
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Code:
git clone https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool.git
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June 24, 2012, 04:26:30 PM
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Yep, update to 2.7  and install twisted and zope Smiley

I'm running 2.7.2 and twisted is installed. I'll try zope

edit: zope is only for windows? i'm on OS X Lion

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