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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2028948 times)
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June 11, 2012, 12:32:51 AM
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I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...
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June 11, 2012, 09:21:49 AM
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I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

i'm also becoming inclined to agree, which is a real shame.
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June 11, 2012, 09:50:31 AM
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June 11, 2012, 11:44:07 AM
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Your slush payout seems odd. Do you mine on and off? I heard that can hurt with a score based pool. 150MH/s should make roughly 0.095BTC a day at the current difficulty, so if your making less then 0.09 give or take, your doing something wrong or your not getting as much as you should. Try mining at a PPS pool like MtRed or BTC Guild or 50BTC for 24 hours and see how much you make.
With 150MH/s on slush he's also probably last on the list to get the LP's from the server.
Late LP's are bad and the lower your MH/s on slush the later you get them (by slush design)

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June 12, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
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Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

Stop looking at short-term averages. They're not valid. Looking at long-term averages, p2pool is running at roughly 90% expected payouts. For me, that 10% loss is acceptable due to all the other benefits that p2pool offers.

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June 12, 2012, 12:47:05 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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June 12, 2012, 01:04:49 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.

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June 12, 2012, 01:55:27 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.
Are you saying Eligius has a higher payout per gigahash than p2pool does?   Undecided

(Your cutting in to my search for Nibiru time. Grin )

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June 12, 2012, 02:05:22 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
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June 12, 2012, 02:06:05 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

<conspiracy>
No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.
Are you saying Eligius has a higher payout per gigahash than p2pool does?   Undecided
At this time, yes. Over the (very) long term, statistically they should be the same.

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June 12, 2012, 02:24:49 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

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June 12, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

I'm getting 3-4btc a day PPS at ozcoin with ~5gh/s.

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June 12, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.

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June 12, 2012, 08:13:44 AM
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P2Pool release 0.11.1 tag: 0.11.1 UPGRADE REQUIRED SOON
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This release's sole purpose is to test possible fixes to our luck problems and provide useful data that may also help. It is a mandatory upgrade because it breaks compatibility with previous releases.
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Did you end up finding anything from the data related to luck or general improvement?

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June 12, 2012, 10:32:53 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.

Pulease. Smiley I'm sure that's not what he meant.

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June 12, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy

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June 12, 2012, 10:43:27 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy
Hmm? I read somewhere that Eligius is a decentralized pool? Tongue

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June 12, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy

But Luke said.....


Lol. Not me I just got up. Ddos attacks are dumb. They should annoy tychno instead. Especially since they are the ones who hurt p2pool the most. 
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June 12, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Ha well lately it pays 10 times better. Lol. I'm on several >100% PPS pools. Look down. Projectx is paying 112-114%. That's paid 6.x btc per day. 6.7btc yesterday on 10gh. Half my stuff is there now.
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June 12, 2012, 11:59:45 AM
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I'm on several >100% PPS pools.

On which pools are you on?

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