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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2587118 times)
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June 12, 2012, 02:06:05 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.
Are you saying Eligius has a higher payout per gigahash than p2pool does?   Undecided
At this time, yes. Over the (very) long term, statistically they should be the same.

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June 12, 2012, 02:24:49 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

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June 12, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

I'm getting 3-4btc a day PPS at ozcoin with ~5gh/s.

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June 12, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.
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June 12, 2012, 08:13:44 AM
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P2Pool release 0.11.1 tag: 0.11.1 UPGRADE REQUIRED SOON
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This release's sole purpose is to test possible fixes to our luck problems and provide useful data that may also help. It is a mandatory upgrade because it breaks compatibility with previous releases.
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Did you end up finding anything from the data related to luck or general improvement?

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June 12, 2012, 10:32:53 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.

Pulease. Smiley I'm sure that's not what he meant.

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June 12, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy

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June 12, 2012, 10:43:27 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy
Hmm? I read somewhere that Eligius is a decentralized pool? Tongue

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June 12, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
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Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something? Cheesy

But Luke said.....


Lol. Not me I just got up. Ddos attacks are dumb. They should annoy tychno instead. Especially since they are the ones who hurt p2pool the most. 
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June 12, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
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P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.
So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Ha well lately it pays 10 times better. Lol. I'm on several >100% PPS pools. Look down. Projectx is paying 112-114%. That's paid 6.x btc per day. 6.7btc yesterday on 10gh. Half my stuff is there now.
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June 12, 2012, 11:59:45 AM
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I'm on several >100% PPS pools.

On which pools are you on?
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June 12, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
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When I start p2pool after being offline for some hours this happens:
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2012-06-12 16:32:10.392000  Pool: 208GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 9.0 hours
2012-06-12 16:32:17.471000 Processing 612 shares from 206.248.171.198:9333...
2012-06-12 16:34:58.680000 Requesting parent share 5a9ac730 from 62.108.39.166:9333
2012-06-12 16:34:58.681000 ... done processing 612 shares. New: 612 Have: 25480/~17280
2012-06-12 16:34:58.683000 > ---> LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.0 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead! <---
2012-06-12 16:34:58.703000 P2Pool: 25475 shares in chain (25480 verified/25480 total) Peers: 10 (0 incoming)
2012-06-12 16:34:58.703000  Local: 0H/s in last 0.0 seconds Local dead on arrival: ??? Expected time to share: ???
2012-06-12 16:34:58.704000  Shares: 0 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ??? Efficiency: ??? Current payout: 0.0000 BTC
2012-06-12 16:34:58.704000  Pool: 188GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.0 hours
2012-06-12 16:35:12.073000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 62.108.39.166:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.074000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 87.206.34.133:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.074000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 76.119.13.176:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.075000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 79.28.38.221:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.075000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 71.198.5.187:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.075000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 79.119.221.68:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.076000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 79.120.39.174:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.077000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 82.197.205.237:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.129000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 46.223.36.219:9333
2012-06-12 16:35:12.130000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from 206.248.171.198:9333
After a while it's fixing itself.
Why is it having connection problems when it's processing the shares?
The bitcoin client doesn't seem to be affected, it's running just fine.

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June 12, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
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Code:
> ---> LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.0 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead! <---
2012-06-12 16:35:12.073000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from xxxxx
This indicates one of 2 things:
- your pc has no CPU power to keep bitcoind + p2pool + something else to run properly
- your internet connection is lagging badly

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June 12, 2012, 03:06:05 PM
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Code:
> ---> LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.0 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead! <---
2012-06-12 16:35:12.073000 Connection timed out, disconnecting from xxxxx
This indicates one of 2 things:
- your pc has no CPU power to keep bitcoind + p2pool + something else to run properly
- your internet connection is lagging badly

Or that bitcoind has crashed / was closed / is busy ^^.

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June 12, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
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This indicates one of 2 things:
- your pc has no CPU power to keep bitcoind + p2pool + something else to run properly
- your internet connection is lagging badly
Or that bitcoind has crashed / was closed / is busy ^^.

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No problems with bitcoind. When p2pool lost the connections there were still dozens of connections in the bitcoin client.

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June 12, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
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*confetti toss* I love P2Pool and all.... But it's just such a pain in the ass... having atleast three windows Always open x.x.....

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June 12, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
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I would get those errors before I realized that I was using the AMD drivers that have the cgminer 100% cpu usage bug. I just manually set bitcoin-qt and p2pool for core 0, and then cgminer for core 1 and it fixed all my problems. My stales went way down as well.
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June 12, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
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How would a Slow-DoS attack affect p2pool if a percentage of nodes were attacked? If all nodes were attacked?
http://www.guerilla-ciso.com/archives/2049
http://blog.spiderlabs.com/2012/01/modsecurity-advanced-topic-of-the-week-mitigation-of-slow-read-denial-of-service-attack.html

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June 12, 2012, 05:56:20 PM
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Slow-DOS will lock up the p2pool and bitcoind processes, effectively paralyzing them. However, because this type of attack usually doesn't kill the network connection miners (sharing the same IP address) are free to failover to a public p2pool node or even a regular pool.
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June 12, 2012, 06:27:46 PM
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*confetti toss* I love P2Pool and all.... But it's just such a pain in the ass... having atleast three windows Always open x.x.....

I made simple .net launcher for bitcoind, namecoind and p2pool. All windows invisible. You can close launcher after it all fires up.
To stop all tings need use bictoind stop, namecoind stop and kill p2pool via task manager.
If you are interested...
You will have only take care of miner window or use gui miner Tongue https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=3878.0

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