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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2587122 times)
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June 05, 2012, 09:01:50 PM
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blockchain.info counts orphans as well.

I love the site, but seeing my balance on addresses include orphan shares drives me insane sometimes.
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June 06, 2012, 02:33:25 AM
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we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool
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June 06, 2012, 02:54:53 AM
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we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool
Rather, the bigger pools should support decentralized mining. p2pool is just another competing pool Wink

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.

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we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool
Rather, the bigger pools should support decentralized mining. p2pool is just another competing pool Wink

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
I don't like your definition of decentralized. I think you should align it more with what is achieved in practice with p2pool, and indeed with bitcoin itself, and then make whatever statements you have to say.

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June 06, 2012, 03:21:30 AM
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we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool
Rather, the bigger pools should support decentralized mining. p2pool is just another competing pool Wink

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
I don't like your definition of decentralized. I think you should align it more with what is achieved in practice with p2pool, and indeed with bitcoin itself, and then make whatever statements you have to say.
p2pool is no more decentralized than the others, except in useless or even bad ways.

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June 06, 2012, 03:23:44 AM
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we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool
Rather, the bigger pools should support decentralized mining. p2pool is just another competing pool Wink

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
I don't like your definition of decentralized. I think you should align it more with what is achieved in practice with p2pool, and indeed with bitcoin itself, and then make whatever statements you have to say.
p2pool is no more decentralized than the others, except in useless or even bad ways.
Prove it by substantially disrupting it in such a way that it can no longer function, and then I will believe you. Otherwise, provide suggestions for improvement.

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June 06, 2012, 04:02:23 AM
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Prove it by substantially disrupting it in such a way that it can no longer function, and then I will believe you. Otherwise, provide suggestions for improvement.
You do realise you are wasting your time arguing with him?
Luke will simply have some bizarre definition of "decentralized mining" that differs from everyone's typical understanding of the words and then use that as his excuse for being correct.
It is the sort of crap he does regularly and it is pointless taking any notice of most of what he says.

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June 06, 2012, 06:32:08 AM
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Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
p2pool is ONE and ONLY true decentralized p2p pool. Rest of them depends on server!
IE Bitpenny fail over is to... solo mining when server is unavailable!

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June 06, 2012, 07:23:31 AM
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p2pool is ONE and ONLY true decentralized p2p pool. Rest of them depends on server!
IE Bitpenny fail over is to... solo mining when server is unavailable!

But then, solo mining may be better than poolmining to begin with! :-)
Bitcoin-network-health-wise, that is.

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June 06, 2012, 10:16:47 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

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June 06, 2012, 10:36:32 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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June 06, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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with p2pool you get mined coins as in solo mining (it is solo mining with reward splitting).

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June 06, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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with p2pool you get mined coins as in solo mining (it is solo mining with reward splitting).

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yep. :-)

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June 06, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
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Some big return? Passed 320GH/s again today Smiley

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June 06, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
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Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
p2pool is ONE and ONLY true decentralized p2p pool. Rest of them depends on server!
IE Bitpenny fail over is to... solo mining when server is unavailable!
All Bitcoin pools depend on network connectivity. Having a server to keep your information private and coordinate things is a good thing. It's easier to DDoS every single p2pool miner (and then they can't failover!) than to DDoS Eligius's server (and if you succeed, miners just failover to another pool). But no, I won't prove that by doing something illegal.

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool
Fresh-mined coins for payouts were innovated by pools in the following order: puddinpop, Eligius, BitPenny, p2pool.

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June 06, 2012, 03:04:51 PM
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I'm gonna laugh if someone decides to DOS Eligius just for fun.
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June 06, 2012, 03:16:46 PM
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I'm gonna laugh if someone decides to DOS Eligius just for fun.
They tried that back in February. With over 30 gbit/sec.

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June 06, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
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June 06, 2012, 03:42:56 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
He said Gbits/sec, not ghash/sec. Rather different. One is hash speed the other is network speed. And if you try it you will probably get reported to the FBI by him anyway.

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June 06, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
He said Gbits/sec, not ghash/sec. Rather different. One is hash speed the other is network speed. And if you try it you will probably get reported to the FBI by him anyway.
Yes, just to be clear: I do not endorse any attempted DDoS or attacks on any pool, and will report any attempts to law enforcement. And yes, the FBI does care about DDoS attacks of this scale (that 30gbit/sec one took out a big datacenter and a whole area of Comcast cable internet).

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