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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2032368 times)
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June 15, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
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It is open, maybe its not my miners, look below

Look at who I was replying to?

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June 15, 2012, 10:40:34 PM
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ooh lol sorry Smiley

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June 15, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
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My node below is successfully running the latest x64
Man, you have over 10% local DOA, something is messed in miner config... I have about 1-2%

Open you node to the public, get a few random users, and we'll see how your local DOA rate fares... Roll Eyes
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Looks like 1RDarke have over 10%...

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June 16, 2012, 12:02:10 AM
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My node below is successfully running the latest x64
Man, you have over 10% local DOA, something is messed in miner config... I have about 1-2%

Open you node to the public, get a few random users, and we'll see how your local DOA rate fares... Roll Eyes
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Looks like 1RDarke have over 10%...

With some really big spikes.

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June 16, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
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My node below is successfully running the latest x64
Man, you have over 10% local DOA, something is messed in miner config... I have about 1-2%

Open you node to the public, get a few random users, and we'll see how your local DOA rate fares... Roll Eyes
My node IS open Smiley

Looks like 1RDarke have over 10%...

With some really big spikes.
Maybe try to loadbalance to another p2pool node? What ping you have to current node?

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June 16, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
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With some really big spikes.
Maybe try to loadbalance to another p2pool node? What ping you have to current node?

126ms. Been too busy to set up my own.

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June 16, 2012, 12:57:57 AM
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try mine

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June 16, 2012, 01:24:10 AM
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try mine
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June 16, 2012, 01:41:03 AM
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Lol!! im bad at reading today

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June 16, 2012, 02:29:42 AM
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I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

Last couple of days have been pretty good for p2pool I think.

Toby.

And.... you killed it.
OMFG.... not AGAIN!

Lol. Happens everytime.

It's like breaking a mirror 7 more days of bad luck :p
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June 16, 2012, 04:33:23 AM
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Is there any hope that the new code changes will get the long term luck above 90%?  I really like the idea of p2pool, but getting effectively 90% PPS is disappointing. I don't think the pay cut is worth it until the large pools actually start disrupting the network and it seems like claims of Deepbit's evil intentions and such are purely FUD (at least at this point in time).
Following the luck charts will do nothing but increase the confusion when trying to determine the success of p2pool. If you were to base the success of p2pool by the luck charts, you would develop the opinion that p2pool is under-performing. This assumption can be proven invalid by calculating the current equivalent PPS payout and comparing it to the expected value from any Bitcoin calculator that calculates PPS. The equivalent PPS value for P2pool has been above the expected PPS, based on Bitcoins generated per Gigahash, by some 5%-15%. You can say p2pool is doing better than expected and so the luck is good.

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June 16, 2012, 04:36:54 AM
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Is there any hope that the new code changes will get the long term luck above 90%?  I really like the idea of p2pool, but getting effectively 90% PPS is disappointing. I don't think the pay cut is worth it until the large pools actually start disrupting the network and it seems like claims of Deepbit's evil intentions and such are purely FUD (at least at this point in time).
Following the luck charts will do nothing but increase the confusion when trying to determine the success of p2pool. If you were to base the success of p2pool by the luck charts, you would develop the opinion that p2pool is under-performing. This assumption can be proven invalid by calculating the current equivalent PPS payout and comparing it to the expected value from any Bitcoin calculator that calculates PPS. The equivalent PPS value for P2pool has been above the expected PPS, based on Bitcoins generated per Gigahash, by some 5%-15%. You can say p2pool is doing better than expected and so the luck is good.

If the "luck" charts based on round length show greater than expected rounds lengths, and the pool payout is also greater than expected, then one of these is incorrect. You can't have both.

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June 16, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
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The simple answer is, the average number of shares per block difficulty is above expected.
That's all that matters in such calculations.

Hopefully this will or has gone down.

Yes you can add fees into the equation when comparing specific pools, but no there is no general 'fee' calculation for all pools of any type.
You need to state which pool and what exactly the fees are.
(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)

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June 16, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
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(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)

DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.

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June 16, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
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(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)

DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
An they taking transaction fees to, it is 0.2-0.8 btc now each block.

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June 16, 2012, 03:21:22 PM
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(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)

DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
An they taking transaction fees to, it is 0.2-0.8 btc now each block.
Well, the PPS pools also take all the risk on the variance/luck too. Dunno about DeepBit, but last I heard, BTCGuild took a big loss during the last cycle, so they lost money paying out all the shares, so kinda gotta take that into account too.

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June 16, 2012, 06:52:22 PM
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(though is there any pool that charges 10%?)

DeepBit PPS charges 10% and BTCGuild charges 8%. They're the highest I know of.
An they taking transaction fees to, it is 0.2-0.8 btc now each block.
Well, the PPS pools also take all the risk on the variance/luck too. Dunno about DeepBit, but last I heard, BTCGuild took a big loss during the last cycle, so they lost money paying out all the shares, so kinda gotta take that into account too.

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Thats why I get more form p2pool than any pps Smiley Bigger cake to cut Smiley

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June 16, 2012, 07:48:32 PM
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Thats why I get more form p2pool than any pps Smiley Bigger cake to cut Smiley

I don't see how, an extra ~.25 per block in tranactions fee's doesn't compensate for the bad luck. I've made much more mining at a MtRed (0% Fee PPS) then I ever did mining at p2pool.
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June 16, 2012, 08:36:36 PM
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Thats why I get more form p2pool than any pps Smiley Bigger cake to cut Smiley

I don't see how, an extra ~.25 per block in tranactions fee's doesn't compensate for the bad luck. I've made much more mining at a MtRed (0% Fee PPS) then I ever did mining at p2pool.
Does MtRed ever say what they made, compared to what they paid out?

That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.

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June 16, 2012, 10:10:01 PM
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Does MtRed ever say what they made, compared to what they paid out?

That's the thing about PPS... it can be good for the miner, but if the pool operator has a long enough string of bad luck, then he's screwed. The pool operator is gambling against the long-term odds.

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True, that's a very big downside to PPS.
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