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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2035610 times)
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June 06, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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with p2pool you get mined coins as in solo mining (it is solo mining with reward splitting).

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June 06, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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with p2pool you get mined coins as in solo mining (it is solo mining with reward splitting).

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June 06, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
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Some big return? Passed 320GH/s again today Smiley

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June 06, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
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Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.
p2pool is ONE and ONLY true decentralized p2p pool. Rest of them depends on server!
IE Bitpenny fail over is to... solo mining when server is unavailable!
All Bitcoin pools depend on network connectivity. Having a server to keep your information private and coordinate things is a good thing. It's easier to DDoS every single p2pool miner (and then they can't failover!) than to DDoS Eligius's server (and if you succeed, miners just failover to another pool). But no, I won't prove that by doing something illegal.

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool
Fresh-mined coins for payouts were innovated by pools in the following order: puddinpop, Eligius, BitPenny, p2pool.

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June 06, 2012, 03:04:51 PM
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I'm gonna laugh if someone decides to DOS Eligius just for fun.
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June 06, 2012, 03:16:46 PM
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I'm gonna laugh if someone decides to DOS Eligius just for fun.
They tried that back in February. With over 30 gbit/sec.

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June 06, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
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June 06, 2012, 03:42:56 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
He said Gbits/sec, not ghash/sec. Rather different. One is hash speed the other is network speed. And if you try it you will probably get reported to the FBI by him anyway.

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June 06, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
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Funny, I think p2pool might have a little bit more hashing power than that... Anyone up for it?
He said Gbits/sec, not ghash/sec. Rather different. One is hash speed the other is network speed. And if you try it you will probably get reported to the FBI by him anyway.
Yes, just to be clear: I do not endorse any attempted DDoS or attacks on any pool, and will report any attempts to law enforcement. And yes, the FBI does care about DDoS attacks of this scale (that 30gbit/sec one took out a big datacenter and a whole area of Comcast cable internet).

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June 06, 2012, 04:32:54 PM
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Suppose a group of supporters set up 30 public p2pool servers, each with 1 Gpbs bandwidth, located in various datacenters throughout the world. It is relatively easy and cheap to lease dedicated servers that meet this criteria.

Would the distributed group of p2pool servers be more or less capable of fending of a 30Gbps attack vs. Eligius?

Which setup is more DDOS-resistant and why?
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June 06, 2012, 05:00:27 PM
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The key to fending off a DDOS is having the ability to block traffic upstream at an area that has sufficient bandwidth. You have to analyze the traffic and drop the bad while keeping normal traffic working. Major ISP and hosts can handle it. The average home user or small business can't.
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June 06, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
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Suppose a group of supporters set up 30 public p2pool servers, each with 1 Gpbs bandwidth, located in various datacenters throughout the world. It is relatively easy and cheap to lease dedicated servers that meet this criteria.
These would be centralized pools, even if they participate in a larger p2pool.

Would the distributed group of p2pool servers be more or less capable of fending of a 30Gbps attack vs. Eligius?

Which setup is more DDOS-resistant and why?
Having a single server to protect from DDoS is easier than having to deal with it at every site. However, if you could setup your servers as anycast (which would require switching to UDP instead of TCP), a DDoS might be easier to mitigate in some ways.

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June 06, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
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I am already merged-mining using p2pool, merging as many coin types as I practically can, but I now want to use it as a "devcoin pool", paying people only in devcoins for using the pool.

It looks like I should be able to set commission percentage to 100 percent to prevent anyone being paid out any bitcoins, yes?

But where would I look to find statistics I can use to divide up the devcoins once I sell all the coins except the devcoins for devcoins to pay to the users?

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June 06, 2012, 09:12:11 PM
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I still haven't even gotten my merged mining working yet... Anyone have a good, quick guide to setting up the merged mining on Windows 7 x64?
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June 06, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
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I`m mining namecoins on my windows.
Just started:
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namceoind -daemon -rpcport=8336
then p2pool:
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run_p2pool --merged http://rpcuser:rpcpass@127.0.0.1:8336/
Cheesy

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June 06, 2012, 09:55:41 PM
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I am p2pool merged-mining bitcoins, namecoins, devcoins, groupcoins, ixcoins, i0coins, and coiledcoins currently.

I used to also have geistgeld and rucoins merged in with those but turned those two off a while back.

I use Linux though not windows.

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June 06, 2012, 11:38:29 PM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

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Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

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June 07, 2012, 12:15:23 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente
Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.
More. 200 nodes but lots of ppl are using p2poolmining Smiley If not want/need/can run own node...

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June 07, 2012, 01:05:31 AM
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I still haven't even gotten my merged mining working yet... Anyone have a good, quick guide to setting up the merged mining on Windows 7 x64?

Get the daemons for whatever you want to mine. Namecoind Ixcoin Iocoin devcoin etc

Set them up on ports that don't conflict with bitcoin. Make sure you set a username and password in the config file.

Once they are all happy you run p2pool with --merged http://username:pass@ip:port repeat for each merged coin. So you'll have 3 or 4 --merged whatever in a row.

That's it.
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June 07, 2012, 01:07:32 AM
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Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me. Cool

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente
Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.
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