[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[Red Emerald]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

[rav3n_pl]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

More. 200 nodes but lots of ppl are using p2poolmining If not want/need/can run own node...

[Aseras]

I still haven't even gotten my merged mining working yet... Anyone have a good, quick guide to setting up the merged mining on Windows 7 x64?

Get the daemons for whatever you want to mine. Namecoind Ixcoin Iocoin devcoin etc

Set them up on ports that don't conflict with bitcoin. Make sure you set a username and password in the config file.

Once they are all happy you run p2pool with --merged http://username:pass@ip:port repeat for each merged coin. So you'll have 3 or 4 --merged whatever in a row.

That's it.

[Aseras]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.

[Luke-Jr]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.

p2pool blocks can be proven to be so.

[Red Emerald]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.

p2pool blocks can be proven to be so.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say, Aseras.  Yes it's true that other pools could payout generated coins.  That's not the point.

[iopq]

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.

p2pool is ONE and ONLY true decentralized p2p pool. Rest of them depends on server!
IE Bitpenny fail over is to... solo mining when server is unavailable!

All Bitcoin pools depend on network connectivity. Having a server to keep your information private and coordinate things is a good thing. It's easier to DDoS every single p2pool miner (and then they can't failover!) than to DDoS Eligius's server (and if you succeed, miners just failover to another pool). But no, I won't prove that by doing something illegal.

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

Fresh-mined coins for payouts were innovated by pools in the following order: puddinpop, Eligius, BitPenny, p2pool.

you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people

[rav3n_pl]

you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people

Yes, the biggest advantage of P2pool - no way to scam!

[Aseras]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.

p2pool blocks can be proven to be so.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say, Aseras.  Yes it's true that other pools could payout generated coins.  That's not the point.

I was actually replying to the mined blocks seem shinier etc. I know p2pool blocks have the header info on the p2pool miners encoded as an output and you can "track" them as such.

I just meant that p2pool or soloing is not truly the only way to get mined blocks.

[Red Emerald]

Plus I get to see Mined coins in my wallet instead of Received coins.  For some reason they just seem shinier to me.

..the most anonymous coins you can get, too!

Ente

Well it's pretty clear that they come from p2pool and since there are only about 200 of p2pool miners, that narrows down the anonymity a bit.

Anyone solo mining and any pool owner has "virgin" blocks. Pools can choose to payout virgin blocks if they want as well. It's just hard to code so it's easier to resend.

p2pool blocks can be proven to be so.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say, Aseras.  Yes it's true that other pools could payout generated coins.  That's not the point.

I was actually replying to the mined blocks seem shinier etc. I know p2pool blocks have the header info on the p2pool miners encoded as an output and you can "track" them as such.

I just meant that p2pool or soloing is not truly the only way to get mined blocks.

Oh okay.  That does make sense.

[Aseras]

we need some of the bigger pools to support p2pool

Rather, the bigger pools should support decentralized mining. p2pool is just another competing pool

Today, decentralized mining is supported by (in order of when supported) BitPenny, p2pool, Eligius, TripleMining, and maybe EclipseMC.

I don't like your definition of decentralized. I think you should align it more with what is achieved in practice with p2pool, and indeed with bitcoin itself, and then make whatever statements you have to say.

p2pool is no more decentralized than the others, except in useless or even bad ways.

Prove it by substantially disrupting it in such a way that it can no longer function, and then I will believe you. Otherwise, provide suggestions for improvement.

how about the update bug? from 10.3 to 11.1

that proved it was possible to fork p2pool

[rav3n_pl]

Take 250 miners that will run modified version of p2pooll and overtake it lol

[Luke-Jr]

you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people

p2pool is no more guaranteed to stay up than other pools (unless you have enough hashrate to solo mine, perhaps). Also, one benefit of Eligius has always been that since we include payouts for even the current round in the generation for its block, your payout is generally just as secure as it is with p2pool. Unfortunately, due to the design of Bitcoin, SMPPS sometimes carries a backlog that can delay things until it is paid from the buffer, but there's not much anyone can do about that until Bitcoin is hardforked (at which point, it would hopefully be modified to allow additional inputs to generation).

[kano]

you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people

p2pool is no more guaranteed to stay up than other pools (unless you have enough hashrate to solo mine, perhaps). Also, one benefit of Eligius has always been that since we include payouts for even the current round in the generation for its block, your payout is generally just as secure as it is with p2pool. Unfortunately, due to the design of Bitcoin, SMPPS sometimes carries a backlog that can delay things until it is paid from the buffer, but there's not much anyone can do about that until Bitcoin is hardforked (at which point, it would hopefully be modified to allow additional inputs to generation).

i.e. see my previous comment about him

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg943988#msg943988

[Diapolo]

I have a problem activating --iocp with Win7 x64, I get the following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "run_p2pool.py", line 3, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "p2pool\main.pyc", line 17, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\iocpreactor\__init__.pyc", line 8, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\iocpreactor\reactor.pyc", line 15, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\_dumbwin32proc.pyc", line 15, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 98, in load_module
ImportError: MemoryLoadLibrary failed loading win32file.pyd

Using: http://u.forre.st/u/ocpualfo/p2pool_win32_0.11.1-41-g0dbcc28.zip

Any hints for me?

Dia

[rav3n_pl]

py2exe/pywin32 installed?

[Diapolo]

py2exe/pywin32 installed?

No, just extracted the zip file, saw that there is that new option, which I wanted to try out.

Dia

[rav3n_pl]

UR usinig exe? It might be not complied properly.
Install:
- Python 2.7 http://python.org/download/releases/2.7.3/
Download:
- Twisted http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Downloads
- Zope http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.interface#download
- py2exe http://sourceforge.net/projects/py2exe/files/
and unzip them to \python27\lib\site-packages\
Download https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/zipball/master
and unzip where you want.
Then run run_p2pool.py All options should work.
Running it directly from python works better for me than using complied exe. You can also have freshest possible version.

[arklan]

i just wanna double check everything is working correctly on my end - no blocks found/payments sent from p2pool since 5:03 pm (UTC if i did the conversion right) yesterday, right?

[mdude77]

i just wanna double check everything is working correctly on my end - no blocks found/payments sent from p2pool since 5:03 pm (UTC if i did the conversion right) yesterday, right?

http://p2pool.info/


seems you are correct.

M