[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[check_status]

However, P2Pool is open source - there's no closed server that could be secretly diverting hashes.

It doesn't have to be p2pool software doing the diverting, there are other softwares installed also. I see p2pool more as a target than hiding some hidden attack/assault/diversion agenda.

It's either a bug somewhere (which I've been trying like mad to find) or just really bad luck.

Barring some "luck" bug, it may require thinking outside the p2pool software box.

How far back do your stats go, can there be a correlation between updates and efficiency/luck?
Can p2pool gather stats on miner software used, OS of a miner, miner software stats like efficiency, rejected, etc.?

Regardless, its still worth it to mine with P2Pool!

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10% is totally worth it.  Don't care if it is a bug, a security problem, bad luck, the phase of Ivpeter, "ghosts", whatever.

I get that you are willing to take one for the team, but where are you taking it? Are they using grease?

You have a widget factory and next door is another widget factory producing exactly what you are producing using the same equipment that you are using. Both of your products are priced the same. You have set up your equipment to be as productive as it can be without killing your workers. You have access to the exact same markets. If all things appear to be equal and yet you are producing 10% less then the widget plant next door, then the question is why? What is causing the 10% reduced production based on other widget manufacturers? Is it an internal issue or an external issue?

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[Aseras]

So, pool is still showing >30% stales. Is that a bug because of the old versions mining on a "fork" or is something else going on?

[ancow]

So, pool is still showing >30% stales. Is that a bug because of the old versions mining on a "fork" or is something else going on?

If I understood the problem correctly, anyone with the faulty build will *only* produce stales (because of the protocol switch) - so ~30% stales and ~30% faulty versions seems to work out...

[check_status]

The total network is producing ⊅7450 per 24hrs for 11.91 TH/s. How many ⊅ per GH/s is that?
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

How does that compare to the current expected value of ⊅0.58016 per GH/s based on the current difficulty?
What is the current p2pool payout per GH/s?

[ChanceCoats123]

The total network is producing ⊅7450 per 24hrs for 11.91 TH/s. How many ⊅ per GH/s is that?
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

How does that compare to the current expected value of ⊅0.58016 per GH/s based on the current difficulty?
What is the current p2pool payout per GH/s?

Being PPLNS, the payout to each address is dependent upon the total shares in the chain, and the number of shares at that the address has in the chain. The share finding functions similarly to how block finding does, IIRC, so it's ****-based. For example, with 1.3ghash in my miner, my payout fluctuates between .17BTC/block found and .26BTC/block found. It would be difficult to use your suggested calculations in order to determine the overall pool **** over time, or even today.

[kano]

The luck should be based on the total 1-diff shares generated each block
(i.e. if a share is 700 diff then of course that counts as 700 1-diff shares)
The expected number of shares is the difficulty.
So to get luck a simple example would be shares/diff
(i.e. > 1 is bad luck, < 1 is good luck)

The fact that the history is lost (hidden ... wiped ... gone)
means that it is unlikely to get any reliable stats from anyone who hasn't kept that history

(Edit: even shares isn't perfect, but it is as accurate as any pool can be)

[check_status]

The total network is producing ⊅7450 per 24hrs for 11.91 TH/s. How many ⊅ per GH/s is that?
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

How does that compare to the current expected value of ⊅0.58016 per GH/s based on the current difficulty?
What is the current p2pool payout per GH/s?

Being PPLNS, the payout to each address is dependent upon the total shares in the chain, and the number of shares at that the address has in the chain. The share finding functions similarly to how block finding does, IIRC, so it's ****-based. For example, with 1.3ghash in my miner, my payout fluctuates between .17BTC/block found and .26BTC/block found. It would be difficult to use your suggested calculations in order to determine the overall pool **** over time, or even today.

I have only used p2pool and my current daily average = ⊅0.66846 per Gigahash.
Are you tracking your received ⊅ from p2pool?
Do you know when you started using p2pool?
If yes, then developing an average payout per day is elementary.

Providing it in a stat page would be awesome. Previous 24hr total hashrate, Previous 24hr total payouts, history per day and a monthly average. I will donate 1 BTC to see it happen!

[bitpop]

Now what is ⊅?

[ancow]

Now what is ⊅?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra_of_sets#The_algebra_of_inclusion

[arklan]

hey guys. having a little difficulty getting setup here. my miner (ufasoft, through guiminer) isn't able to complete a handshake with a locally running p2pool node. the handshake is timing out. any thoughts?

[Smoovious]

hey guys. having a little difficulty getting setup here. my miner (ufasoft, through guiminer) isn't able to complete a handshake with a locally running p2pool node. the handshake is timing out. any thoughts?

Smoovious thinks "details?"

-- Smoov

[bitpop]

Crazy, google has zero results.

Edit: WTF

[arklan]

hey guys. having a little difficulty getting setup here. my miner (ufasoft, through guiminer) isn't able to complete a handshake with a locally running p2pool node. the handshake is timing out. any thoughts?

Smoovious thinks "details?"

-- Smoov

running latest p2pool software, which is up and running problem free. attempt to connect to http:127.0.0.1:9332 with the proper name and password results in "handshake timed out, disconnecting from 127.0.0.1:51084"

[arklan]

Crazy, google has zero results.

Edit: WTF

yea. i found that rather odd... this is what i get for running an nvidia card and an ATI in the same box...

[Smoovious]

Crazy, google has zero results.

Edit: WTF

got a screenshot? cuz... I've never, EVER, seen it return 0 results on anything before.

-- Smoov

[check_status]

Now what is ⊅?

That is the new BTC monetary emblem! Ctrl+Shift Then U-2-2-8-5.  

[Aseras]

So, pool is still showing >30% stales. Is that a bug because of the old versions mining on a "fork" or is something else going on?

If I understood the problem correctly, anyone with the faulty build will *only* produce stales (because of the protocol switch) - so ~30% stales and ~30% faulty versions seems to work out...

That sucks for the people who don't read the board every day or worse.

[check_status]

hey guys. having a little difficulty getting setup here. my miner (ufasoft, through guiminer) isn't able to complete a handshake with a locally running p2pool node. the handshake is timing out. any thoughts?

Firewall rules. Allow the port for p2pool.

[Smoovious]

hey guys. having a little difficulty getting setup here. my miner (ufasoft, through guiminer) isn't able to complete a handshake with a locally running p2pool node. the handshake is timing out. any thoughts?

Smoovious thinks "details?"

-- Smoov

running latest p2pool software, which is up and running problem free. attempt to connect to http:127.0.0.1:9332 with the proper name and password results in "handshake timed out, disconnecting from 127.0.0.1:51084"

are you typing in the url exactly like that? cuz, in GUIminer, you should have a seperate field for the host and the port. "127.0.0.1" or "localhost" goes into the host field, and 9332 into the port field

and... why ufasoft?

-- Smoov

[rjk]

Now what is ⊅?

That is the new BTC monetary emblem! Ctrl+Shift Then U-2-2-8-5.  

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^ that's what I get from alt+2285, using ctrl+shift did nothing at all.