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June 08, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
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Take 250 miners that will run modified version of p2pooll and overtake it lol Tongue

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June 08, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
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you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people
p2pool is no more guaranteed to stay up than other pools (unless you have enough hashrate to solo mine, perhaps). Also, one benefit of Eligius has always been that since we include payouts for even the current round in the generation for its block, your payout is generally just as secure as it is with p2pool. Unfortunately, due to the design of Bitcoin, SMPPS sometimes carries a backlog that can delay things until it is paid from the buffer, but there's not much anyone can do about that until Bitcoin is hardforked (at which point, it would hopefully be modified to allow additional inputs to generation).

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June 09, 2012, 01:47:42 AM
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you can shut down your pool at any point and not pay people out
I'm pretty sure I am guaranteed that p2pool stays up and keeps paying people
p2pool is no more guaranteed to stay up than other pools (unless you have enough hashrate to solo mine, perhaps). Also, one benefit of Eligius has always been that since we include payouts for even the current round in the generation for its block, your payout is generally just as secure as it is with p2pool. Unfortunately, due to the design of Bitcoin, SMPPS sometimes carries a backlog that can delay things until it is paid from the buffer, but there's not much anyone can do about that until Bitcoin is hardforked (at which point, it would hopefully be modified to allow additional inputs to generation).
i.e. see my previous comment about him Smiley

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June 09, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
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I have a problem activating --iocp with Win7 x64, I get the following error:

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "run_p2pool.py", line 3, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "p2pool\main.pyc", line 17, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\iocpreactor\__init__.pyc", line 8, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\iocpreactor\reactor.pyc", line 15, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 82, in load_module
  File "twisted\internet\_dumbwin32proc.pyc", line 15, in <module>
  File "zipextimporter.pyc", line 98, in load_module
ImportError: MemoryLoadLibrary failed loading win32file.pyd

Using: http://u.forre.st/u/ocpualfo/p2pool_win32_0.11.1-41-g0dbcc28.zip

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June 09, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
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py2exe/pywin32 installed?

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June 09, 2012, 02:05:25 PM
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py2exe/pywin32 installed?

No, just extracted the zip file, saw that there is that new option, which I wanted to try out.

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June 09, 2012, 07:44:40 PM
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UR usinig exe? It might be not complied properly.
Install:
- Python 2.7 http://python.org/download/releases/2.7.3/
Download:
- Twisted http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Downloads
- Zope http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.interface#download
- py2exe http://sourceforge.net/projects/py2exe/files/
and unzip them to \python27\lib\site-packages\
Download https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/zipball/master
and unzip where you want.
Then run run_p2pool.py Smiley All options should work.
Running it directly from python works better for me than using complied exe. You can also have freshest possible version.

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June 10, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
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i just wanna double check everything is working correctly on my end - no blocks found/payments sent from p2pool since 5:03 pm (UTC if i did the conversion right) yesterday, right?
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June 10, 2012, 03:17:26 PM
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i just wanna double check everything is working correctly on my end - no blocks found/payments sent from p2pool since 5:03 pm (UTC if i did the conversion right) yesterday, right?

http://p2pool.info/


seems you are correct.

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June 10, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
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thanks. for the link too. i'd forgotten bout that.
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June 10, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
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Ok, I was mad about another 24hr block and I jumped to Slush for a day. Just want to check how much I can get (again).
And I`m back to P2pool. It is simple match: my small ~150MH/s mine gets BEST from P2pool pool.

This is what I get form 24hrs of mining. YES I know that in long term blablabla... But look at numbers:
Code:
12558 2012-06-10 21:06:02 0:08:34 176882 0.00336535
12557 2012-06-10 20:57:22 0:21:41 429827 0.00003743
12556 2012-06-10 20:35:34 4:22:05 4295752 0.00000005
12555 2012-06-10 16:13:23 1:48:03 1758862 0.00068659
12554 2012-06-10 14:25:14 0:55:12 933696 0.00207379
12553 2012-06-10 13:29:56 0:11:16 270248 0.00007700
12552 2012-06-10 13:18:35 0:04:32 109373 0.00105316
12551 2012-06-10 13:13:55 0:01:38 36550 0.00217752
12550 2012-06-10 13:12:09 1:18:48 1332681 0.00012049
12549 2012-06-10 11:53:14 4:36:05 4377702 0.00000204
I get 0,000959342 per block on Slush pool.

On p2pool:
Code:
c5fc01a87b,,, Block 183128 (2012-06-05 14:03:27) 0,01690442
2063c0dbe0,,, Block 183232 (2012-06-06 06:02:43) 0,02919097
d128ece71f,,, Block 183244 (2012-06-06 08:06:15) 0,02383825
64ddd5ab75,,, Block 183288 (2012-06-06 13:20:22) 0,02414565
29bc429daf,,, Block 183433 (2012-06-07 15:51:06) 0,01738696
99f08d715e,,, Block 183499 (2012-06-08 02:11:55) 0,01079474
c44f9169e5,,, Block 183522 (2012-06-08 06:40:01) 0,0109043
34ee08131d,,, Block 183534 (2012-06-08 08:39:44) 0,0109494
78bfc57e57,,, Block 183610 (2012-06-08 20:45:26) 0,0064956
32a09f0d78,,, Block 183750 (2012-06-09 17:03:16) 0,0113476
I get 0,016195789 per block in p2pool. Ant it was a bad week (not 24/7 mining) , mostly I get over 0.02 per block.

It is 16-20 times difference!
I checked statistics, Slush avg makes 8-20 blocks per day. P2pool 1-4 blocks / day. It is 4-8 times difference. NO WAY to make same amounts of BTC.

So if someone have any doubts... switch to P2pool! Cheesy

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June 10, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
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Ok, I was mad about another 24hr block and I jumped to Slush for a day. Just want to check how much I can get (again).
And I`m back to P2pool. It is simple match: my small ~150MH/s mine gets BEST from P2pool pool.

This is what I get form 24hrs of mining. YES I know that in long term blablabla... But look at numbers:
Code:
12558 2012-06-10 21:06:02 0:08:34 176882 0.00336535
12557 2012-06-10 20:57:22 0:21:41 429827 0.00003743
12556 2012-06-10 20:35:34 4:22:05 4295752 0.00000005
12555 2012-06-10 16:13:23 1:48:03 1758862 0.00068659
12554 2012-06-10 14:25:14 0:55:12 933696 0.00207379
12553 2012-06-10 13:29:56 0:11:16 270248 0.00007700
12552 2012-06-10 13:18:35 0:04:32 109373 0.00105316
12551 2012-06-10 13:13:55 0:01:38 36550 0.00217752
12550 2012-06-10 13:12:09 1:18:48 1332681 0.00012049
12549 2012-06-10 11:53:14 4:36:05 4377702 0.00000204
I get 0,000959342 per block on Slush pool.

On p2pool:
Code:
c5fc01a87b,,, Block 183128 (2012-06-05 14:03:27) 0,01690442
2063c0dbe0,,, Block 183232 (2012-06-06 06:02:43) 0,02919097
d128ece71f,,, Block 183244 (2012-06-06 08:06:15) 0,02383825
64ddd5ab75,,, Block 183288 (2012-06-06 13:20:22) 0,02414565
29bc429daf,,, Block 183433 (2012-06-07 15:51:06) 0,01738696
99f08d715e,,, Block 183499 (2012-06-08 02:11:55) 0,01079474
c44f9169e5,,, Block 183522 (2012-06-08 06:40:01) 0,0109043
34ee08131d,,, Block 183534 (2012-06-08 08:39:44) 0,0109494
78bfc57e57,,, Block 183610 (2012-06-08 20:45:26) 0,0064956
32a09f0d78,,, Block 183750 (2012-06-09 17:03:16) 0,0113476
I get 0,016195789 per block in p2pool. Ant it was a bad week (not 24/7 mining) , mostly I get over 0.02 per block.

It is 16-20 times difference!
I checked statistics, Slush avg makes 8-20 blocks per day. P2pool 1-4 blocks / day. It is 4-8 times difference. NO WAY to make same amounts of BTC.

So if someone have any doubts... switch to P2pool! Cheesy

Your slush payout seems odd. Do you mine on and off? I heard that can hurt with a score based pool. 150MH/s should make roughly 0.095BTC a day at the current difficulty, so if your making less then 0.09 give or take, your doing something wrong or your not getting as much as you should. Try mining at a PPS pool like MtRed or BTC Guild or 50BTC for 24 hours and see how much you make.
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June 10, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
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You are comparing apples and oranges. You need to look at btc per day or week.

The only real way to do that is to split mine both with the same mhash at the same time.

You should be making more on a pps. Slush is scored so shares aren't even. Try a pure pps pool.
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June 11, 2012, 12:32:51 AM
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I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...
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June 11, 2012, 09:21:49 AM
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I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

i'm also becoming inclined to agree, which is a real shame.
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June 11, 2012, 11:44:07 AM
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Your slush payout seems odd. Do you mine on and off? I heard that can hurt with a score based pool. 150MH/s should make roughly 0.095BTC a day at the current difficulty, so if your making less then 0.09 give or take, your doing something wrong or your not getting as much as you should. Try mining at a PPS pool like MtRed or BTC Guild or 50BTC for 24 hours and see how much you make.
With 150MH/s on slush he's also probably last on the list to get the LP's from the server.
Late LP's are bad and the lower your MH/s on slush the later you get them (by slush design)

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June 12, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
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Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

Stop looking at short-term averages. They're not valid. Looking at long-term averages, p2pool is running at roughly 90% expected payouts. For me, that 10% loss is acceptable due to all the other benefits that p2pool offers.

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June 12, 2012, 12:47:05 AM
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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

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No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else. Tongue
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Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.

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