[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[arklan]

thanks. for the link too. i'd forgotten bout that.

[rav3n_pl]

Ok, I was mad about another 24hr block and I jumped to Slush for a day. Just want to check how much I can get (again).
And I`m back to P2pool. It is simple match: my small ~150MH/s mine gets BEST from P2pool pool.

This is what I get form 24hrs of mining. YES I know that in long term blablabla... But look at numbers:

Code:

12558 	2012-06-10 21:06:02 	0:08:34 	176882 	0.00336535
12557 	2012-06-10 20:57:22 	0:21:41 	429827 	0.00003743
12556 	2012-06-10 20:35:34 	4:22:05 	4295752 	0.00000005
12555 	2012-06-10 16:13:23 	1:48:03 	1758862 	0.00068659
12554 	2012-06-10 14:25:14 	0:55:12 	933696 	0.00207379
12553 	2012-06-10 13:29:56 	0:11:16 	270248 	0.00007700
12552 	2012-06-10 13:18:35 	0:04:32 	109373 	0.00105316
12551 	2012-06-10 13:13:55 	0:01:38 	36550 	0.00217752
12550 	2012-06-10 13:12:09 	1:18:48 	1332681 	0.00012049
12549 	2012-06-10 11:53:14 	4:36:05 	4377702 	0.00000204

I get 0,000959342 per block on Slush pool.

On p2pool:

Code:

c5fc01a87b,,, 	Block 183128 (2012-06-05 14:03:27) 	0,01690442
2063c0dbe0,,, 	Block 183232 (2012-06-06 06:02:43) 	0,02919097
d128ece71f,,, 	Block 183244 (2012-06-06 08:06:15) 	0,02383825
64ddd5ab75,,, 	Block 183288 (2012-06-06 13:20:22) 	0,02414565
29bc429daf,,, 	Block 183433 (2012-06-07 15:51:06) 	0,01738696
99f08d715e,,, 	Block 183499 (2012-06-08 02:11:55) 	0,01079474
c44f9169e5,,, 	Block 183522 (2012-06-08 06:40:01) 	0,0109043
34ee08131d,,, 	Block 183534 (2012-06-08 08:39:44) 	0,0109494
78bfc57e57,,, 	Block 183610 (2012-06-08 20:45:26) 	0,0064956
32a09f0d78,,, 	Block 183750 (2012-06-09 17:03:16) 	0,0113476

I get 0,016195789 per block in p2pool. Ant it was a bad week (not 24/7 mining) , mostly I get over 0.02 per block.

It is 16-20 times difference!
I checked statistics, Slush avg makes 8-20 blocks per day. P2pool 1-4 blocks / day. It is 4-8 times difference. NO WAY to make same amounts of BTC.

So if someone have any doubts... switch to P2pool!

[Tittiez]

Ok, I was mad about another 24hr block and I jumped to Slush for a day. Just want to check how much I can get (again).
And I`m back to P2pool. It is simple match: my small ~150MH/s mine gets BEST from P2pool pool.

This is what I get form 24hrs of mining. YES I know that in long term blablabla... But look at numbers:

Code:

12558 	2012-06-10 21:06:02 	0:08:34 	176882 	0.00336535
12557 	2012-06-10 20:57:22 	0:21:41 	429827 	0.00003743
12556 	2012-06-10 20:35:34 	4:22:05 	4295752 	0.00000005
12555 	2012-06-10 16:13:23 	1:48:03 	1758862 	0.00068659
12554 	2012-06-10 14:25:14 	0:55:12 	933696 	0.00207379
12553 	2012-06-10 13:29:56 	0:11:16 	270248 	0.00007700
12552 	2012-06-10 13:18:35 	0:04:32 	109373 	0.00105316
12551 	2012-06-10 13:13:55 	0:01:38 	36550 	0.00217752
12550 	2012-06-10 13:12:09 	1:18:48 	1332681 	0.00012049
12549 	2012-06-10 11:53:14 	4:36:05 	4377702 	0.00000204

I get 0,000959342 per block on Slush pool.

On p2pool:

Code:

c5fc01a87b,,, 	Block 183128 (2012-06-05 14:03:27) 	0,01690442
2063c0dbe0,,, 	Block 183232 (2012-06-06 06:02:43) 	0,02919097
d128ece71f,,, 	Block 183244 (2012-06-06 08:06:15) 	0,02383825
64ddd5ab75,,, 	Block 183288 (2012-06-06 13:20:22) 	0,02414565
29bc429daf,,, 	Block 183433 (2012-06-07 15:51:06) 	0,01738696
99f08d715e,,, 	Block 183499 (2012-06-08 02:11:55) 	0,01079474
c44f9169e5,,, 	Block 183522 (2012-06-08 06:40:01) 	0,0109043
34ee08131d,,, 	Block 183534 (2012-06-08 08:39:44) 	0,0109494
78bfc57e57,,, 	Block 183610 (2012-06-08 20:45:26) 	0,0064956
32a09f0d78,,, 	Block 183750 (2012-06-09 17:03:16) 	0,0113476

I get 0,016195789 per block in p2pool. Ant it was a bad week (not 24/7 mining) , mostly I get over 0.02 per block.

It is 16-20 times difference!
I checked statistics, Slush avg makes 8-20 blocks per day. P2pool 1-4 blocks / day. It is 4-8 times difference. NO WAY to make same amounts of BTC.

So if someone have any doubts... switch to P2pool!

Your slush payout seems odd. Do you mine on and off? I heard that can hurt with a score based pool. 150MH/s should make roughly 0.095BTC a day at the current difficulty, so if your making less then 0.09 give or take, your doing something wrong or your not getting as much as you should. Try mining at a PPS pool like MtRed or BTC Guild or 50BTC for 24 hours and see how much you make.

[Aseras]

You are comparing apples and oranges. You need to look at btc per day or week.

The only real way to do that is to split mine both with the same mhash at the same time.

You should be making more on a pps. Slush is scored so shares aren't even. Try a pure pps pool.

[ChanceCoats123]

I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

[arklan]

I really hate to say it, but I'm not going to give it much longer.

I love being able to make more than my expected daily payout, but when my weekly and monthly amounts still average to less than what I should be making, it's getting to be pointless.

I love the idea behind this project, but it needs to get the details worked out before I can adopt it full time. There isn't really much for me to say. Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

i'm also becoming inclined to agree, which is a real shame.

[bitpop]

dont give up forest

[kano]

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Your slush payout seems odd. Do you mine on and off? I heard that can hurt with a score based pool. 150MH/s should make roughly 0.095BTC a day at the current difficulty, so if your making less then 0.09 give or take, your doing something wrong or your not getting as much as you should. Try mining at a PPS pool like MtRed or BTC Guild or 50BTC for 24 hours and see how much you make.

With 150MH/s on slush he's also probably last on the list to get the LP's from the server.
Late LP's are bad and the lower your MH/s on slush the later you get them (by slush design)

[Syke]

Going back 3 days, we've found 7 blocks, and one was an orphan. To start, 1/7 is way more than 10% orphan rate. Secondly we're at 7 out of at least 12, and that's near 50% of our expected fucking blocks. I've stuck with p2pool through some low times, but it seems like we've been spending much too long in the trough on this sine curve...

Stop looking at short-term averages. They're not valid. Looking at long-term averages, p2pool is running at roughly 90% expected payouts. For me, that 10% loss is acceptable due to all the other benefits that p2pool offers.

[check_status]

It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

<conspiracy>
No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else.
</conspiracy>

Have you guys seen the Nibiru pics from Australia?

[Luke-Jr]

It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

<conspiracy>
No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else.
</conspiracy>

Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.

[check_status]

It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

<conspiracy>
No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else.
</conspiracy>

Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.

Are you saying Eligius has a higher payout per gigahash than p2pool does?  

(Your cutting in to my search for Nibiru time. )

[Aseras]

P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.

[Luke-Jr]

It's easy to see what pools paid out what, especially if there is a historical hashrate available..*p2pool*.
# of blocks * 50 / Hashrate for that period (in giga hashes) = payout per giga hash

<conspiracy>
No body will produce these graphs because it would prove without a doubt p2pool outperforms everyone else.
</conspiracy>

Sorry, but even with Eligius's terrible luck lately, it still has a better track record than p2pool - and I'm pretty sure we're not the only other pool with historical hashrate available either.

Are you saying Eligius has a higher payout per gigahash than p2pool does?  

At this time, yes. Over the (very) long term, statistically they should be the same.

[check_status]

P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.

So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

[mdude77]

P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.

So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

I'm getting 3-4btc a day PPS at ozcoin with ~5gh/s.

M

[Frizz23]

P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.

So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.

[mav]

P2Pool release 0.11.1 tag: 0.11.1 UPGRADE REQUIRED SOON
...
This release's sole purpose is to test possible fixes to our luck problems and provide useful data that may also help. It is a mandatory upgrade because it breaks compatibility with previous releases.
...

Did you end up finding anything from the data related to luck or general improvement?

[mdude77]

P2pool is an awesome concept. It just doesn't pay. I'm making ~9 btc per day PPS. That would take 4 blocks per day on p2pool.  Which when I was on was a really good day.  I consistently got 2.x btc per block as one of the top miners.

So your pool pays 4.25x better than p2pool? Where do I sign up?

Read! He wrote 2.x btc per block (not per day) on p2pool.

Pulease. I'm sure that's not what he meant.

M

[stevegee58]

Looks like Eligius is being DDOSed.  One of you wankers doing this to prove something?