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February 21, 2016, 08:37:19 PM
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d57heinz : unfortunately you cant talk logically to those of low IQ such as pekatete. just look at his lack of trust rating. If he wants to continue to mine on slush and throw away his money/profits to a lying thieving pool operator then let him.

Pekatete: how about you actually shutting up for once and reading posts and forming intelligent responses instead of mindless blind following of a pool owner that has led you all around by you johnsons as he steals from you by overcharging for pool fees and for allowing the withholding attack to happen and not revealing who did it and what miner/software they were using.

Amazing how this "miner" has been identified yet hasn't been reveled. Makes one think why he/she/them haven't been identified to the public. or why themselves haven't come on here and apologized. My thoughts is that the "attacker" and slush were working together or the attacker was slush himself. why not toss a miner on the pool and get paid for work he hasn't done. O that's right that's what hes doing right now with his outrageous pool fee, getting paid for doing nothing. for the fees he charges he should be on here posting constantly.

In my opinion, negative trust ratings should be evaluated and researched if you are going to choose to use them to base your belief in what someone states. Trust ratings are gamed by too many people on this forum. Pekatete was unfairly targeted by dogie to get the ones from dogie. Dogie is looked down on by the real forum members with the titles of Legendary or Hero who have brains. They simply avoid the public arguments because they became bored, or realized he is an immature child.
Excuse my off-topic post there, but it bothers me to see people try to promote trust ratings as a valid measurement for someones honesty or sincerity when they are constantly abused. In summary, trust ratings, titles of hero or legendary, or any other quick gauge of someone posting here is not accurate at all. The only thing it can be is a data point to be used in evaluating someone. IT is the content of their posts and actions over a long period of time that you should consider. If their posts never reference facts, and are basic reposts where they take the same thing they previously stated and rehash it then the agenda should be obvious.

On topic though, when I initially came to this forum I believed Pekatete had somewhat of a handle on what he was doing. Unfortunately after doing more research and spending time reading every word he has posted within the last year it is obvious he does not have a real understanding of mining, equipment, mining politics, or basic common sense. He lives in a world of his own making, and even the people he defends have privately wished he did not. The usual story I hear from those people is that his statements are based on nothing. He picks one or two things and bases an entire statement on those items rather than considering an entire list of facts. You cannot make an unbiased comment when you start with an imagined reality. The reason this is on topic is because of how he pops in now and argues with anyone saying anything negative about slush using the same tired tirade discussing a few days of luck. If luck is the basis lets talk about the luck I have been fortunate to participate in for the past year at 103%+.
Luck is not the end-all gauge of a pool's success, but Pekatete will take exception to how luck is calculated without any facts. I challenge anyone to find a fact his comments are based on before CK splits out the comments again.

I hope Slush has gotten things worked out, and I don't think he intentionally stole anything. I do not have facts to say things are working correctly. Mining is not short term for most, and it will take a few months to make a case one way or the other based on an accumulation of statistics. People mining at Slush reading this forum have heard the same things stated many times so continuing to make requests which will never be satisfied is wasting your time. I learned this all to well from F2pool. That doesn't mean there are not ways to inform people and make sure newer miners are educated regarding risks. PMs are extremely valuable and there are other threads where these people can become informed without the silly antics of Pekatete constantly using his factless bashing of kano.is when to anyone with any time here can see it is pure jealousy which drives him.

I have zero intention of mining at slush again and like most I like the layout of the website and several other things about the pool. I simply hated the payout amounts and the lack of a forum presence. I do not like facebook and having to post there to see what is happening or communicate is not my idea of a well ran pool.

Regarding the fact that slush created the stratum protocol I think is a fantastic landmark, but it is not a defining personality trait and does not mean that this pool is the best in any way. It is a ridiculous argument to make. IT is another data point to use when making your own judgment regarding where to mine. Not something to base the decision on. I think the best things to use are how do you get support, how successful has the pool been over a long period of time, and does the pool management's mining philosophy neutral or agreeable with  your own.

To me, even higher payouts should not trump your decision to support a pool which is making bitcoin related political decisions which are totally against your own beliefs. Transparency regarding those beliefs, such as supporting XT, Classic, or not, etc is huge if you care about bitcoin. If you are here to make a buck regardless of what the pool where you mine supports you are making short-sighted decisions. Speak with yourhashrate be it gigahash or petahash and support the pool based on that first and then bring the payments in at some point. Supposedly it all evens out over the long term. I suppose that depends on when and where you start and stop mining.

A 40 PH pool is nothing to sneeze at and for so many people it means everything, but I'd go back to the 1 PH sized kano.is any day because of my personal experience and how I rank pools. My way of ranking isn't going to be the same as everyone elses. My ability to accept variance is not the same either. I am happy we have these choices available. What is important is that you actually consider important attributes based on facts. If you listen to what someone is telling you, are their comments based on facts or just the same ol' ramblings?

If in doubt, you can always split hash across pools and compare for yourself but again, do not simply compare payouts for a week, compare a variety of things from support, presence, the things the pool management support, how quickly you receive assistance, what they do for the community over a long period of time, and payouts.
Some pool operators are way out of touch with the small miners and some have never even been on a social level with us.

The miners are a part of the pool, if it is a good pool. If miners are ignored then the pool management has gotten involved in more important things, at least more important as far as they are concerned.

IF Slush knows of a particular retail miner running a release version of firmware which is causing block with-holding then yes he damn sure should be letting everyone know. If it was custom firmware by one miner then as long as the pool Ops know I am good with that because I trust my pool Op to address it.


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Get serious regarding your numbers and evaluate the data yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1338693.0

On another note if you use the forum trust system as a gauge for buying or selling please take a moment to evaluate my personal opinions and consider how much weight this system sincerely helps anyone.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg13227629#msg13227629

Trust Abuse by dogie against many members is rampant.
He attempts to use it as censorship against anyone who dares call him out when he gives bad, or poor information.
He has given people advice which could or may have caused harm.
He offered to remove negative trust against me if I would post specific text. The text he requested is not truthful and I refuse to be extorted and blackmailed.
So should you.
Do your own investigation and confirm yourself if this is a one, two, three, or even four or five people incident and maybe he could claim truth or misunderstanding.
Once you see how many people have been abused by his methods I believe the truth will be obvious.
Everyone has an issue here or there, but few have so blatantly abused this forum's trust system.
Take Dogie's rating against me for example.
I have a blemish free record and have worked with many of the most trusted members of this forum with positive outcomes.
I have and would never buy / sell anything with dogie.
Be safe and don't use dogie's ratings system of any type. They are skewed by money and personal vengeance against honesty regarding his behaviour and comments.
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February 21, 2016, 08:38:23 PM
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Pekatete:
You do understand principles of leadership in an industry correct? Companies that are thought to be leaders should lead through innovation by providing offerings or solutions that are not yet provided by other companies. In this case pools. If slush really cared about being a trailbazer, he wouldn't maintain the status quo of "oh well we had a withholding attack", he would do something different and innovative that would make everyone happy and help change the landscape of the mining world. By him not doing anything, it makes it perfectly fine for any other pool to follow suit. Those are just my two cents.

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February 21, 2016, 08:49:08 PM
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Pekatete:
You do understand principles of leadership in an industry correct? Companies that are thought to be leaders should lead through innovation by providing offerings or solutions that are not yet provided by other companies. In this case pools. If slush really cared about being a trailbazer, he wouldn't maintain the status quo of "oh well we had a withholding attack", he would do something different and innovative that would make everyone happy and help change the landscape of the mining world. By him not doing anything, it makes it perfectly fine for any other pool to follow suit. Those are just my two cents.

I am sure that you'll be benefiting from the hard work that the slushpool team put into detecting the with-holding attack, which-ever pool you decide to mine at in the future. If that is not enough innovation for you, that should not form the basis of accussing slush of dishonesty as the two (things) are not related.


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February 21, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
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Pekatete:
You do understand principles of leadership in an industry correct? Companies that are thought to be leaders should lead through innovation by providing offerings or solutions that are not yet provided by other companies. In this case pools. If slush really cared about being a trailbazer, he wouldn't maintain the status quo of "oh well we had a withholding attack", he would do something different and innovative that would make everyone happy and help change the landscape of the mining world. By him not doing anything, it makes it perfectly fine for any other pool to follow suit. Those are just my two cents.

I am sure that you'll be benefiting from the hard work that the slushpool team put into detecting the with-holding attack, which-ever pool you decide to mine at in the future. If that is not enough innovation for you, that should not form the basis of accussing slush of dishonesty as the two (things) are not related.


So just let me simplesizeit for you.. How much does slush pay you?!!
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February 21, 2016, 09:24:00 PM
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So just let me simplesizeit for you.. How much does slush pay you?!!

Don't be such a simpleton ... how much did YOU lose in the block with-holding attack?

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February 22, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
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Hello,

The question is not whether an attack may be good or bad for the pool manager (I have the same opinion as pekatete on that) but whether this with-hold attack has really taken place!

If slush had increased the power displayed his pool for exemple +10PH (no one can know if the indication is true), it dims the incomes of miners and pool keeps the difference.

He only needs to find an credible excuse such as a problem of withholding to justify the poor results and voila, neither seen nor known!

The problem is, that to my knowledge, slush has not proved that it was indeed an withholding attack.

Everyone is free to believe him or not...

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February 22, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
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The question is not whether an attack may be good or bad for the pool manager (I have the same opinion as pekatete on that) but whether this with-hold attack has really taken place!

Phew, thats a relief! Somebody actually has an opinion congruent to mine on at least one aspect.

If slush had increased the power displayed his pool for exemple +10PH (no one can know if the indication is true), it dims the incomes of miners and pool keeps the difference.

I fundamentally dis-agree with this, both in terms of the motive for slush to "lie" about the hashing power of the pool, and in terms of dimming / reducing the incomes of miners. For example, if a pool displays its hash power as 30PH when it is actually 20PH
1. The pool will only be earning circa 20PH worth of rewards
2. The pool will report lower luck because it is only earning 20PH worth, which is less than what is computed for 30PH
3. The miners will only be paid what the pool has earned
4. Miners will STILL be earning proportionately to their real hash power and therefore will NOT loose anything.

Unless you are saying that slush's setup is by far very superior to any other pool / mining operation on the network to an extent that he needs to fake his hash power so that pool luck reported is within the generally published values (but on this accassion something went wrong), then your assertion is flawed. I can not fathom any other plausible reason why slush would want to inflate the pool hash power.

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February 22, 2016, 02:44:42 PM
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I can not fathom any other plausible reason why slush would want to inflate the pool hash power.

why would he? simple to keep simpletons like you at his pool thinking that large 40+PH will net them more then a smaller pool. you are obviously a small minded individual who probably bought his account. or have nothing better to do then spam message board with your mindless vomit you call words.

Its ok you can tell us how much slush pays you to spill your mindless dribble on these boards. I think if you facerolled across the keyboard it would be a more intelligent response then what you have been talking about slush being a trust worthy guy.

With the diff on the rise and the split happening soon any theft regardless of it was intentional or not should not be tolerated in any form these days. It might not seem like a lot of money in btc. but convert that to USD and it is now petty theft or grand theft depending on the size of the mining farm.

Try telling the feds that all you did was skim a few pennies from thousands of people and thousands of transactions and see where you end up. JAIL. Why should the digital world be any different, the thief should have been announced and banned from mining. His info should have been then given to other pool owners to be banned from their pools. if the guy is crafty enough to write his own mining software he knows how to code in a withholding attack so the "accidental" attack doesn't fly.

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February 22, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
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If you believe Slush's explanation, which I do, then it is seems inappropriate to refer to this situation a "block withholding attack".  A better term would be "block withholding bug". 

As to people who believe that Slush "owes" them something.  We all had access to the same information and had the opportunity to move our hash power months ago, once it was clear that something was wrong.  I stopped mining at the pool some months ago, once it was obvious that the bad "luck" was almost certainly not luck.
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February 22, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
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If you believe Slush's explanation, which I do, then it is seems inappropriate to refer to this situation a "block withholding attack".  A better term would be "block withholding bug".  

As to people who believe that Slush "owes" them something.  We all had access to the same information and had the opportunity to move our hash power months ago, once it was clear that something was wrong.  I stopped mining at the pool some months ago, once it was obvious that the bad "luck" was almost certainly not luck.

^^ Sanity at last!

why would he? simple to keep simpletons like you at his pool thinking that large 40+PH will net them more then a smaller pool.

Most clear headed miners can establish what their hashing power should earn via a multitude of sites on the net that'll estimate how much you should earn with whatever hashing speed. I've never come accross anyone before on any forum that makes the choice of miner rewards pool to mine at based on pool speed, you are the first (and clearly barmy!).

you are obviously a small minded individual who probably bought his account.

Says the guy who opened an account specifically to spew drivel, a very cultured dimwit indeed.

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February 22, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
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If you believe Slush's explanation, which I do, then it is seems inappropriate to refer to this situation a "block withholding attack".  A better term would be "block withholding bug". 

As to people who believe that Slush "owes" them something.  We all had access to the same information and had the opportunity to move our hash power months ago, once it was clear that something was wrong.  I stopped mining at the pool some months ago, once it was obvious that the bad "luck" was almost certainly not luck.

Thank you, You have right, i will use "bug" instead of "attack", sorry
I did exactly as you Wink


The question is not whether an attack may be good or bad for the pool manager (I have the same opinion as pekatete on that) but whether this with-hold attack has really taken place!

Phew, thats a relief! Somebody actually has an opinion congruent to mine on at least one aspect.

Thank you,
On this point you are right, it's not debatable

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If slush had increased the power displayed his pool for exemple +10PH (no one can know if the indication is true), it dims the incomes of miners and pool keeps the difference.

I fundamentally dis-agree with this, both in terms of the motive for slush to "lie" about the hashing power of the pool, and in terms of dimming / reducing the incomes of miners. For example, if a pool displays its hash power as 30PH when it is actually 20PH
1. The pool will only be earning circa 20PH worth of rewards
2. The pool will report lower luck because it is only earning 20PH worth, which is less than what is computed for 30PH
3. The miners will only be paid what the pool has earned
4. Miners will STILL be earning proportionately to their real hash power and therefore will NOT loose anything.

Unless you are saying that slush's setup is by far very superior to any other pool / mining operation on the network to an extent that he needs to fake his hash power so that pool luck reported is within the generally published values (but on this accassion something went wrong), then your assertion is flawed. I can not fathom any other plausible reason why slush would want to inflate the pool hash power.

1) Yes, but exactly same if there is a withholding bug , impossible to see any difference
2) Yes, but exactly same if there is a withholding bug , impossible to see any difference
3) Yes, but exactly same if there is a withholding bug , impossible to see any difference
4) No because Payment of the minor = Block value x minor hashrate / total hashrate, if you increase displayed hashrate more than real hasrate of pool, you stole your minor... They loose = Real hashpower of pool PH / ( declared hashpower of pool)

It is totally impossible to see difference between a withholding bug and a false increase of total hashrate.

Personally, I have no opinion, I do not accuse slush, I see the facts, that's all.
I have pointed some of my miner since two weeks and at the moment I am quite happy Smiley

Anyway when we got caught in the teeth several hashrate increases of over 10%, this problem appears very small now ... Cry
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February 22, 2016, 06:36:03 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?
Despite all the back and forth, this is the post that sums it up the best.  I'll never understand why a lot of people mine where they do.  Why anyone would continue to mine at slush baffles me.  The fanboi flag waving is mildly entertaining, but besides that I see nothing positive here.  When it looks like crap, smells like crap, and feels like crap I have a good feeling what it is...
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February 22, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
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4) No because Payment of the minor = Block value x minor hashrate / total hashrate, if you increase displayed hashrate more than real hasrate of pool, you stole your minor... They loose = Real hashpower of pool PH / ( declared hashpower of pool)
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This is where that argument falls to pieces. Why would slush want to do such a thing? He could have used the hash from the pool to mine NMC for himself without giving miners the option to earn the mined NMC and he would make more from that. This is the very same guy who lost BTC 2000 (was it more?) only a few years ago and nothing of the sort of accusation was thrown at him in the following period, until now.

At the end of the day, everyone SHOULD know what their hash rate is supposed to earn them over a reasonable period, say a week. If your rewards are less than that and feel you can get better somewhere else, move it. I personally, since the demise of ghash as we knew it, have not mined at a better place than slush (and yes, been to the slow cooking heist pool too!).

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February 22, 2016, 07:07:26 PM
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4) No because Payment of the minor = Block value x minor hashrate / total hashrate, if you increase displayed hashrate more than real hasrate of pool, you stole your minor... They loose = Real hashpower of pool PH / ( declared hashpower of pool)
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This is where that argument falls to pieces. Why would slush want to do such a thing? He could have used the hash from the pool to mine NMC for himself without giving miners the option to earn the mined NMC and he would make more from that. This is the very same guy who lost BTC 2000 (was it more?) only a few years ago and nothing of the sort of accusation was thrown at him in the following period, until now.

At the end of the day, everyone SHOULD know what their hash rate is supposed to earn them over a reasonable period, say a week. If your rewards are less than that and feel you can get better somewhere else, move it. I personally, since the demise of ghash as we knew it, have not mined at a better place than slush (and yes, been to the slow cooking heist pool too!).

Hello Pekatete

You haven't explain how "my argument falls in pieces". I have not write that he have redirected hashpower to do something else.

The best way for a pool manager to rip of  his users is to do a false increase of hashpower of the pool.
That appears like bad luck (or block withhold...) and if he not overdo, it's difficult to see that because of the variance.




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February 22, 2016, 07:16:22 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?
Despite all the back and forth, this is the post that sums it up the best.  I'll never understand why a lot of people mine where they do.  Why anyone would continue to mine at slush baffles me.  The fanboi flag waving is mildly entertaining, but besides that I see nothing positive here.  When it looks like crap, smells like crap, and feels like crap I have a good feeling what it is...

Hello,
I am one of those people (at least for part of my hashrate).

This is actually a good question because Ghash.io fell very low for less than that!

However, nobody can prove that slush lie. For justice you are inocent if it is not proven that you are not guilty. I apply this rule too.

External attack to kill his pool is an possible option also. that can be to suport him!

Everyone does what he wants
For now pool works well!
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February 22, 2016, 07:23:15 PM
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Hello Pekatete

You haven't explain how "my argument falls in pieces". I have not write that he have redirected hashpower to do something else.

The best way for a pool manager to rip of  his users is to do a false increase of hashpower of the pool.
That appears like bad luck (or block withhold...) and if he not overdo, it's difficult to see that because of the variance.

I did not explain because I do not think he's got any reason to do that when he could easily "earn" more by mining altcoins using YOUR very same hash-power that every-one seems to be accussing him of lying about. Well, that was my explanation, you only had to read between the lines ...

Honestly, this is stretching it to unreasonable levels, bottom line is the most unlikely reasons for which slush would allegedly do be responsible for the third party bug attack were being fanned by a dishonest pool op for nefarious aims. I am sure you've noticed the deafening silence since his baseless accusations were emphatically empirically proven to be pie in the sky.

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February 22, 2016, 07:50:24 PM
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Hello Pekatete

You haven't explain how "my argument falls in pieces". I have not write that he have redirected hashpower to do something else.

The best way for a pool manager to rip of  his users is to do a false increase of hashpower of the pool.
That appears like bad luck (or block withhold...) and if he not overdo, it's difficult to see that because of the variance.

I did not explain because I do not think he's got any reason to do that when he could easily "earn" more by mining altcoins using YOUR very same hash-power that every-one seems to be accussing him of lying about. Well, that was my explanation, you only had to read between the lines ...

Honestly, this is stretching it to unreasonable levels, bottom line is the most unlikely reasons for which slush would allegedly do be responsible for the third party bug attack were being fanned by a dishonest pool op for nefarious aims. I am sure you've noticed the deafening silence since his baseless accusations were emphatically empirically proven to be pie in the sky.
Sorry for not "read between the lines."

I either I do not allow myself to accuse slush. I set out the facts and assumptions described. But nothing can be Prove, anyway.
 
I agree with you that it has aquired a reputation he would be completely stupid to spoil now. Especially since it seems to me that it was he who founded the company that makes "trezor" in parallel, it would destroy everything he has built. We know who he is. In Reflective, it can not be that.

The possibility of an external attack or big mistake is a likely option.
We will see later what happens.
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February 23, 2016, 06:27:42 AM
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Stop Bitching and keep mining....if u don't like it move to another pool
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February 23, 2016, 01:44:46 PM
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Where's our buddy slush in all this back and forth.. again with his head in the sand.. hope that it will blow over.. Maybe we forget all this.. Dont worry I dont forget and ill make sure to direct people to more honest and supportive pools from here on out. I Cant believe for someone raking in what slush does per month on fees he cant be bothered with us.. Must mean he has just a few large miners to deal with and Fuck the rest of us!!!!!!.. Don't see him defending anything at all.> I'm sure he doesn't want to point a finger at the miners because we will bust him out on his lie..    Well pekatete  i dont know why you defend unless you are slush himself or paid by him.. I find it funny how you chime in just in the right times.. LMAO.... Anyway  if you care to read from here on.. You can see this was discussed in length by many people and its funny your the only one that defends slush back then aswell.. Makes it obvious you have some ties to him.! Slush pool may have at one time been the best  But so was AOL at the dawn of the internet age..


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13072339#msg13072339
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.21460
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13238801#msg13238801
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13244988#msg13244988

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ALL i know from my own life experience is that when someone tells the truth they are Very defending of said truths.> In this case i dont see that at all.   All slush has to do is come out with the brand and firmware of the miners he said caused this issue for so many months now.. If he doesn't do that then he was lying and it was his fuckup causing the lost earnings which should be compensated.. HOw about this.. i don't want compensation IF SLUSH comes forth with the iNFO on these miners.. This info is far more valuable to the community than the lost btc!  If this was only a bug and nothing nefarious then i don't see why this info hasn't been released.   Pekatete why would you not want this info as well??? ??


Edit >> im sure someone mining solo would love to know they are paying power for nothing as their machines will NEVER hit a block.. AND SLUSH KNOWS WHICH MACHINES THEY ARE!!!

As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
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February 23, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
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<snip>All slush has to do is come out with the brand and firmware of the miners he said caused this issue for so many months now.. <snip>

One month, not "so many". Your hyperbole makes it harder for people to take you seriously. Just post what you can prove is true, it'll be enough.

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