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February 20, 2016, 01:32:09 PM
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Happy to see the pool finding more blocks now .

u can't just ask for identity of the withholder man ...

just hope it will not restart with another firmware or what else !

just lets monitoring the stats thats all we could do to detect shit

and sorry for bad english ...

and slush nice new design , better  =)

something u could implement is a 'sound' when a block is found , it will be nice ( like mario coin blocks or something like that ^^ )



I can and did!!!  He needs to at the very least come with the hardware if this is even a credible story.. Still no comment.. like i said if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.> Only a fool would continue to mine here. Just my two bits anyway.. If he is lying about this what will come in the future that he will hide.. 

Slush you need to come out with the type of miner and firmware to make this story remotely credible. Until then i have my thoughts as to what really happened.. Just contiue to stick your head in the sand.. It appears your miners are more naive than i first thought.. Ehh to each their own i guess.

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February 20, 2016, 02:04:18 PM
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I can and did!!!  He needs to at the very least come with the hardware if this is even a credible story.. Still no comment.. like i said if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.> Only a fool would continue to mine here. Just my two bits anyway.. If he is lying about this what will come in the future that he will hide..  

Slush you need to come out with the type of miner and firmware to make this story remotely credible. Until then i have my thoughts as to what really happened.. Just contiue to stick your head in the sand.. It appears your miners are more naive than i first thought.. Ehh to each their own i guess.

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Nonsense! The only thing that quacks like a duck in all this, and thus is a duck is yourself. If a fool is described as one that mines at a pool with above average luck (198%, 117% and 110% for 1 day, 7 days and 30 days respectively), then whoever does not mine there, or advises not to mine there, must be an accomplished idiot.

In all this, bear in mind that some pools piggy-back on others to improve their luck and lure miners to their pools, and some operators have gone on record to detail their methods of sabotaging other pools that piggyback onto them thus you can not rule out the very real possibility that some pool operator targets another with a block withholding attack, simply to suppress that pool's luck and lure miners to their pools.

I actually believe slush gave a cover story for the block with-holding attack and the real culprit is another pool. Saying that, I have every confidence in slush's ability to handle this better than any other pool operator on planet bitcoin. Pool mining is about trusting the pool operator and slush being the pioneer pool (and stratum protocol architect) can not put his reputation out to hang over a 4 month block with-holding attack by misleading miners. If anything, slush holds the miner's best interests to the forefront in everything that he does, and questioning that should raise more questions about intentions.

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February 20, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?

To me this is a smaller scale cryptsy event that just happened, where miners were NOT PAID their BTC, yet you people seem to still happily mine here. Carry on with your pools, I know I will certainly never attempt to earn any BTC here ever again and make sure no family member nor friend does so either.  

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February 20, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?

To me this is a smaller scale cryptsy event that just happened, where miners were NOT PAID their BTC, yet you people seem to still happily mine here. Carry on with your pools, I know I will certainly never attempt to earn any BTC here ever again and make sure no family member nor friend does so either.  

You profess your ignorance at will. To be able to launch a block with-holding attack worthy of the tag requires more than the single solitary miner that you believe was responsible. And why wouldn't anyone want to mine at a pool with pool luck of, as we speak, 216%, 117% and 110% for the day, week and month respectively?

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February 20, 2016, 07:49:43 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?

To me this is a smaller scale cryptsy event that just happened, where miners were NOT PAID their BTC, yet you people seem to still happily mine here. Carry on with your pools, I know I will certainly never attempt to earn any BTC here ever again and make sure no family member nor friend does so either.  

You profess your ignorance at will. To be able to launch a block with-holding attack worthy of the tag requires more than the single solitary miner that you believe was responsible. And why wouldn't anyone want to mine at a pool with pool luck of, as we speak, 216%, 117% and 110% for the day, week and month respectively?

Like I said, if you believe there is nothing hidden, then keep mining here. Fact of the matter is BTC was stolen here no matter which way you slice it. BTC was withheld from its miners. Any payouts never happened. The same exact thing happened to cryptsy, and they went under, slush did not, why? Because of their brilliant PR campaigns with favorable articles strategically published immediately after the withholdings came bubbling up in this forum. Also their paid google advertisements have them pop up first for the casual miner when they search for bitcoin mining pool and the like. There is your ignorance.

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February 20, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
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Like I said, if you believe there is nothing hidden, then keep mining here. Fact of the matter is BTC was stolen here no matter which way you slice it. BTC was withheld from its miners. Any payouts never happened. The same exact thing happened to cryptsy, and they went under, slush did not, why? Because of their brilliant PR campaigns with favorable articles strategically published immediately after the withholdings came bubbling up in this forum. Also their paid google advertisements have them pop up first for the casual miner when they search for bitcoin mining pool and the like. There is your ignorance.
Your conspiracy theories are just that. As far as I am concerned, everything at slushpool is above board. The block with-holding attack can not be blamed on slush whatever crede you proffess to as the attack can happen to any pool, more so to a successfull one like slush.

All that needed to be said about the attack by the team at slushpool, to my reckoning, has been said. And true to their word, pool luck since has been above average, even skirting above the levels before the attack. The remnants of the conversation are mainly geared towards getting the gullible to switch to lesser pools, but nothing more of substance.

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February 20, 2016, 11:30:56 PM
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You guys that defend slush and his pool are baffling. If ANY other pool had attacks on them where hundreds or thousands of btc were withheld, stolen, hidden, whatever the case may be; that site would be a ghost town in no time with no one mining on it. The fact that there was a hijacking of this pool, and you all still mine here is insanity. He used to brag about having higher than bank level security, and you really believe someone could have programmed their single solitary miner to withhold blocks from a pool with this level of security?

To me this is a smaller scale cryptsy event that just happened, where miners were NOT PAID their BTC, yet you people seem to still happily mine here. Carry on with your pools, I know I will certainly never attempt to earn any BTC here ever again and make sure no family member nor friend does so either.  

You profess your ignorance at will. To be able to launch a block with-holding attack worthy of the tag requires more than the single solitary miner that you believe was responsible. And why wouldn't anyone want to mine at a pool with pool luck of, as we speak, 216%, 117% and 110% for the day, week and month respectively?

Like I said, if you believe there is nothing hidden, then keep mining here. Fact of the matter is BTC was stolen here no matter which way you slice it. BTC was withheld from its miners. Any payouts never happened. The same exact thing happened to cryptsy, and they went under, slush did not, why? Because of their brilliant PR campaigns with favorable articles strategically published immediately after the withholdings came bubbling up in this forum. Also their paid google advertisements have them pop up first for the casual miner when they search for bitcoin mining pool and the like. There is your ignorance.

A number of pools have experienced block withholding attacks before now. Slush's pool has responded no differently to those pools, AFAICT.

Your energies might be better spent on promoting a standardised response to a block withholding attack, rather than targeting Slush's pool.

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February 21, 2016, 02:04:29 AM
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My miner shows 1.072Ths. But on my Slush pool's dashboard only shows 700Ghs. Is this normal?
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February 21, 2016, 05:16:07 AM
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My miner shows 1.072Ths. But on my Slush pool's dashboard only shows 700Ghs. Is this normal?

what difficulty does your miner report you are mining at?  you can adjust the difficulty manually on your slush dashboard if difficulty is too high or to low.
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February 21, 2016, 08:17:00 AM
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My miner shows 1.072Ths. But on my Slush pool's dashboard only shows 700Ghs. Is this normal?

what difficulty does your miner report you are mining at?  you can adjust the difficulty manually on your slush dashboard if difficulty is too high or to low.

9000.

Other miners also set at 9000 and they are running constantly @ 1th.

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February 21, 2016, 08:45:28 AM
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I can and did!!!  He needs to at the very least come with the hardware if this is even a credible story.. Still no comment.. like i said if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.> Only a fool would continue to mine here. Just my two bits anyway.. If he is lying about this what will come in the future that he will hide..  

Slush you need to come out with the type of miner and firmware to make this story remotely credible. Until then i have my thoughts as to what really happened.. Just contiue to stick your head in the sand.. It appears your miners are more naive than i first thought.. Ehh to each their own i guess.

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Nonsense! The only thing that quacks like a duck in all this, and thus is a duck is yourself. If a fool is described as one that mines at a pool with above average luck (198%, 117% and 110% for 1 day, 7 days and 30 days respectively), then whoever does not mine there, or advises not to mine there, must be an accomplished idiot.

In all this, bear in mind that some pools piggy-back on others to improve their luck and lure miners to their pools, and some operators have gone on record to detail their methods of sabotaging other pools that piggyback onto them thus you can not rule out the very real possibility that some pool operator targets another with a block withholding attack, simply to suppress that pool's luck and lure miners to their pools.

I actually believe slush gave a cover story for the block with-holding attack and the real culprit is another pool. Saying that, I have every confidence in slush's ability to handle this better than any other pool operator on planet bitcoin. Pool mining is about trusting the pool operator and slush being the pioneer pool (and stratum protocol architect) can not put his reputation out to hang over a 4 month block with-holding attack by misleading miners. If anything, slush holds the miner's best interests to the forefront in everything that he does, and questioning that should raise more questions about intentions.

Thanks for the good laugh.. i needed that.. where were you back when it was happening.. Love how you chime in when the pool finally gets it shit together.. Just reeks of the bs i see in BTC land every day..

Way to reassure what i think about how most if not all crypto companies are run.. Haphazardly at best.  Bunch of kids !!!

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February 21, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
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 Smiley BTCreporting that the payout/rewards panel on account dashboard page is not refreshingBTC

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February 21, 2016, 09:05:41 AM
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Like I said, if you believe there is nothing hidden, then keep mining here. Fact of the matter is BTC was stolen here no matter which way you slice it. BTC was withheld from its miners. Any payouts never happened. The same exact thing happened to cryptsy, and they went under, slush did not, why? Because of their brilliant PR campaigns with favorable articles strategically published immediately after the withholdings came bubbling up in this forum. Also their paid google advertisements have them pop up first for the casual miner when they search for bitcoin mining pool and the like. There is your ignorance.
Your conspiracy theories are just that. As far as I am concerned, everything at slushpool is above board. The block with-holding attack can not be blamed on slush whatever crede you proffess to as the attack can happen to any pool, more so to a successfull one like slush.

All that needed to be said about the attack by the team at slushpool, to my reckoning, has been said. And true to their word, pool luck since has been above average, even skirting above the levels before the attack. The remnants of the conversation are mainly geared towards getting the gullible to switch to lesser pools, but nothing more of substance.

Do i really need to go back thru my post history to find how many months ago i started barking about this..  ITS BEEN Far too long ago now.. Esp the size of the miner in question.  Should have been more obvious to someone that is a great pool op or so caring of the miners like you say!  guess ill check my first fb post and on here about this exact problem.  Only to come to find out after 4 months i was right.. Seriously man defending slush makes you look the fool..

ANd again .. .slush says this was a bad firmware in miners.. NOt a pool proxy.. so lets come with the info on the miners already..ill walk away once that info is out


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13158361#msg13158361
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13166550#msg13166550  this shows you i once supported slush.. but his handling of this issue is horrible in my eyes!   i think what pissed me off the most was his dead silence and total disregard for the issue... just kept telling me its luck move along.. F$%% that.. good thing i didnt!  Or i should say good for you Pekatete since you still mine here!!

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February 21, 2016, 09:36:34 AM
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I left this pool to move my hashing power to Kano.is block finds were just not happening as often as they should here anymore. Which is a shame, as the web platform and information is brilliant....
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February 21, 2016, 10:52:34 AM
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Do i really need to go back thru my post history to find how many months ago i started barking about this..  ITS BEEN Far too long ago now.. Esp the size of the miner in question.  Should have been more obvious to someone that is a great pool op or so caring of the miners like you say!  guess ill check my first fb post and on here about this exact problem.  Only to come to find out after 4 months i was right.. Seriously man defending slush makes you look the fool..

ANd again .. .slush says this was a bad firmware in miners.. NOt a pool proxy.. so lets come with the info on the miners already..ill walk away once that info is out


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13158361#msg13158361
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13166550#msg13166550  this shows you i once supported slush.. but his handling of this issue is horrible in my eyes!   i think what pissed me off the most was his dead silence and total disregard for the issue... just kept telling me its luck move along.. F$%% that.. good thing i didnt!  Or i should say good for you Pekatete since you still mine here!!

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Whether you spotted the issue that long ago is neither here nor there, fact is (and as far as I am concerned) it has now been resolved. For what it is worth, I'll add that I will take slush's word over yours any day wihout batting an eyelid, and that is not a reflection on you.

By the way, I am NOT defending slush, just pointing out the facts as I see them, if anything, just to stem your tirade of twaddle (though clearly it is not working on that last one!).

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Do i really need to go back thru my post history to find how many months ago i started barking about this..  ITS BEEN Far too long ago now.. Esp the size of the miner in question.  Should have been more obvious to someone that is a great pool op or so caring of the miners like you say!  guess ill check my first fb post and on here about this exact problem.  Only to come to find out after 4 months i was right.. Seriously man defending slush makes you look the fool..
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I'm not seeing four months of significantly bad luck here, just around mid December to maybe end January.


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February 21, 2016, 11:21:11 AM
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Do i really need to go back thru my post history to find how many months ago i started barking about this..  ITS BEEN Far too long ago now.. Esp the size of the miner in question.  Should have been more obvious to someone that is a great pool op or so caring of the miners like you say!  guess ill check my first fb post and on here about this exact problem.  Only to come to find out after 4 months i was right.. Seriously man defending slush makes you look the fool..

ANd again .. .slush says this was a bad firmware in miners.. NOt a pool proxy.. so lets come with the info on the miners already..ill walk away once that info is out


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13158361#msg13158361
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13166550#msg13166550  this shows you i once supported slush.. but his handling of this issue is horrible in my eyes!   i think what pissed me off the most was his dead silence and total disregard for the issue... just kept telling me its luck move along.. F$%% that.. good thing i didnt!  Or i should say good for you Pekatete since you still mine here!!

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Whether you spotted the issue that long ago is neither here nor there, fact is (and as far as I am concerned) it has now been resolved. For what it is worth, I'll add that I will take slush's word over yours any day wihout batting an eyelid, and that is not a reflection on you.

By the way, I am NOT defending slush, just pointing out the facts as I see them, if anything, just to stem your tirade of twaddle (though clearly it is not working on that last one!).

Eventhough we all lost money here and now we should blindly belive slush and you that this is fixed. He said that he will give the findings so everyone can investigate. Do you really beleive that that was witholding attack?! What is the possibility that he took all that blocks and now is blaming that on witholding? Can you point some real facts and not just shilling here please!!
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February 21, 2016, 11:31:08 AM
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Eventhough we all lost money here and now we should blindly belive slush and you that this is fixed.

Don't believe me, see the pool luck yourself .... does it look like it's been fixed like slush said?

He said that he will give the findings so everyone can investigate. Do you really beleive that that was witholding attack?! What is the possibility that he took all that blocks and now is blaming that on witholding?

If slush said he'll give the findings, then he will if he has not already done so, that I have no doubt, however, the probability that slush "took all those blocks" is a figment of your imagination. And yes, if he says it was a with-holding attack, I have every reason to believe it was such, but more importantly, I have NO reason at all to think it was not (emphasis on the latter).

Can you point some real truth and not just shilling here please!!

If I point you to the truth, would you believe it if you read it with your own eyes?

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February 21, 2016, 11:37:16 AM
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Eventhough we all lost money here and now we should blindly belive slush and you that this is fixed.

Don't believe me, see the pool luck yourself .... does it look like it's been fixed like slush said?

He said that he will give the findings so everyone can investigate. Do you really beleive that that was witholding attack?! What is the possibility that he took all that blocks and now is blaming that on witholding?

If slush said he'll give the findings, then he will if he has not already done so, that I have no doubt, however, the probability that slush "took all those blocks" is a figment of your imagination. And yes, if he says it was a with-holding attack, I have every reason to believe it was such, but more importantly, I have NO reason at all to think it was not (emphasis on the latter).

Can you point some real truth and not just shilling here please!!

If I point you to the truth, would you believe it if you read it with your own eyes?
Again no facts my friend. Maybe now is ok with the block findings but in near future that can happen again and with no proof he and we should blame on bad luck right?
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Again no facts my friend. Maybe now is ok with the block findings but in near future that can happen again and with no proof he and we should blame on bad luck right?
You did not say whether you'd believe the facts .... but as you know, good AND bad luck happen, and it would not be a stretch of the imagination to attribute bad luck to .... bad luck, would it now?

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