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December 17, 2015, 04:18:44 AM
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December 17, 2015, 04:52:43 AM
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What is going on? After 10 TH/s left the pool, the rewards are picking up again!
Interesting, this might have been a block withholding attack, it is impossible to conclusively prove however. Our luck has returned fortunately. Smiley

Haha. Indeed. Are there ways to prove if there was an attack?

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December 17, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
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And things have taken a slow down again - notice that the NMC mining has caught up to a "normal" position, my feeling is that the recent behavior is linked to NMC mining, might be a million miles off but the pattern is looking suspect to me....
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December 17, 2015, 06:02:04 PM
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I read that this pool supports and rewards loyal miners. Is that true?

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December 17, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
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So did anyone else notice that luck went down the tubes right after the announcement they they were going to return the option of voting for XT with hashing?  I've been wondering if it some kind of new attack on the pool.

Other pools are subject to the same attacks, e.g. block withholding, especially PPS pools where the attack comes straight out of the pocket of the pool operators.
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December 17, 2015, 08:22:44 PM
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So did anyone else notice that luck went down the tubes right after the announcement they they were going to return the option of voting for XT with hashing?  I've been wondering if it some kind of new attack on the pool.
No it happened before that...
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December 19, 2015, 05:43:50 AM
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7 th/s joined the pool today..

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December 19, 2015, 08:39:11 AM
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7 th/s joined the pool today..
Surely you mean 7 PH/s
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December 19, 2015, 08:56:14 AM
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I used antpool and slush, and let me tell you, antpool got many blocks, but slush is more reliable and fair. Remember antpool cheated a lot of their miners by hiding blocks etc.
Slush would never do that.. never.
I disagree,
I think slush is cheating you right now,
These pool owners know the tricks to manipulate the pool and fill their own wallets...
Amazing how things start to rectify once 10Ph leaves the pool,
This is the owner making sure he can afford that new house or vacation overseas, its just greed.
One person (owner) prioritizing their needs ahead of all the workers that actually make the pool.
And its definitely cheating.

And it takes a real coward to do it in such a deviant and sly manner....
Still no comment from the pool owner......
You dont think thats odd....
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December 19, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
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7 th/s joined the pool today..
Surely you mean 7 PH/s

Haha. Yes i meant 7 ph/s

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December 21, 2015, 12:05:15 AM
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I used antpool and slush, and let me tell you, antpool got many blocks, but slush is more reliable and fair. Remember antpool cheated a lot of their miners by hiding blocks etc.
Slush would never do that.. never.
I disagree,
I think slush is cheating you right now,
These pool owners know the tricks to manipulate the pool and fill their own wallets...
Amazing how things start to rectify once 10Ph leaves the pool,
This is the owner making sure he can afford that new house or vacation overseas, its just greed.
One person (owner) prioritizing their needs ahead of all the workers that actually make the pool.
And its definitely cheating.

And it takes a real coward to do it in such a deviant and sly manner....
Still no comment from the pool owner......
You dont think thats odd....

These are hard accusatuions, can you provide some evidence?

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December 21, 2015, 12:21:09 AM
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I used antpool and slush, and let me tell you, antpool got many blocks, but slush is more reliable and fair. Remember antpool cheated a lot of their miners by hiding blocks etc.
Slush would never do that.. never.
I disagree,
I think slush is cheating you right now,
These pool owners know the tricks to manipulate the pool and fill their own wallets...
Amazing how things start to rectify once 10Ph leaves the pool,
This is the owner making sure he can afford that new house or vacation overseas, its just greed.
One person (owner) prioritizing their needs ahead of all the workers that actually make the pool.
And its definitely cheating.

And it takes a real coward to do it in such a deviant and sly manner....
Still no comment from the pool owner......
You dont think thats odd....

These are hard accusatuions, can you provide some evidence?

Well I'm sure he can't. But that's the problem with closed source pool software.  Least with Kano he is open source    
 the whole issue is you shouldn't have to put trust in the pool op.  Satoshi original ideal of decentralization would have worked had slush not been greedy and started the first pool to what.  Gain the system by combining power of many users hash.  Now that diff is where it is and we have so much hash sadly it's the only way unless you have good luck and 160 ths so you can pay the bills a month.  Need to at least be hashing at speed high enough to find a block once a month or you get further out of pocket.  I think honestly asics destroyed what Bitcoin was originally.  Just my two bits anyway. Now we just have to figure out where it goes from here

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December 21, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
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I used antpool and slush, and let me tell you, antpool got many blocks, but slush is more reliable and fair. Remember antpool cheated a lot of their miners by hiding blocks etc.
Slush would never do that.. never.
I disagree,
I think slush is cheating you right now,
These pool owners know the tricks to manipulate the pool and fill their own wallets...
Amazing how things start to rectify once 10Ph leaves the pool,
This is the owner making sure he can afford that new house or vacation overseas, its just greed.
One person (owner) prioritizing their needs ahead of all the workers that actually make the pool.
And its definitely cheating.

And it takes a real coward to do it in such a deviant and sly manner....
Still no comment from the pool owner......
You dont think thats odd....

These are hard accusatuions, can you provide some evidence?

We dont have any proof and thats the problem,
If we had proof at least something could be done,
Do you have any proof to the contrary ?
When there is no integrity there can be no trust.
If antpool can do it so can slush.
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December 21, 2015, 01:55:59 PM
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i now only mine my own pools, after witnessing no blocks in a period of time, then the day after blocks appearing in wrong order, claiming to be found 18 hours ago, when last block was found 2 hours ago obvious manipulation, but could also be the looking after loyal miners thing Sad

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December 21, 2015, 04:47:15 PM
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i now only mine my own pools, after witnessing no blocks in a period of time, then the day after blocks appearing in wrong order, claiming to be found 18 hours ago, when last block was found 2 hours ago obvious manipulation, but could also be the looking after loyal miners thing Sad

How do the loyalty system works at slush pool?

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December 21, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
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i now only mine my own pools, after witnessing no blocks in a period of time, then the day after blocks appearing in wrong order, claiming to be found 18 hours ago, when last block was found 2 hours ago obvious manipulation, but could also be the looking after loyal miners thing Sad

How do the loyalty system works at slush pool?

i dont actually know for certain, but like i said above, i witnessed about an 18 hour period with no blocks found at all, the day after a block was added into my reward history which didnt fit with all the others, block above it needed something like 99 confirms, the block before it needed about 5 confirms, but the added block was confirmed 18 hours previous, im assuming this was the loyalty system, either that or they were hiding blocks from the miners, then re adding the hidden blocks at a later date... i do fully accept there could have also been pool issues, crons not running correctly and then relaunching the crons could account for the odd block in reward history. sorry i couldn't be any more helpful :/

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December 21, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
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i now only mine my own pools, after witnessing no blocks in a period of time, then the day after blocks appearing in wrong order, claiming to be found 18 hours ago, when last block was found 2 hours ago obvious manipulation, but could also be the looking after loyal miners thing Sad

How do the loyalty system works at slush pool?

i dont actually know for certain, but like i said above, i witnessed about an 18 hour period with no blocks found at all, the day after a block was added into my reward history which didnt fit with all the others, block above it needed something like 99 confirms, the block before it needed about 5 confirms, but the added block was confirmed 18 hours previous, im assuming this was the loyalty system, either that or they were hiding blocks from the miners, then re adding the hidden blocks at a later date... i do fully accept there could have also been pool issues, crons not running correctly and then relaunching the crons could account for the odd block in reward history. sorry i couldn't be any more helpful :/


Sounds from what you are saying, it is merely listing the newest blocks found on the top and rather than listing conformations it is stating how many conformations are left.  99 confirms left indicating the newest, 5 confirms left is 2nd newest and the 18 hour previous is obviously confirmed.  seems correct order to me.
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December 21, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
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i now only mine my own pools, after witnessing no blocks in a period of time, then the day after blocks appearing in wrong order, claiming to be found 18 hours ago, when last block was found 2 hours ago obvious manipulation, but could also be the looking after loyal miners thing Sad

How do the loyalty system works at slush pool?

i dont actually know for certain, but like i said above, i witnessed about an 18 hour period with no blocks found at all, the day after a block was added into my reward history which didnt fit with all the others, block above it needed something like 99 confirms, the block before it needed about 5 confirms, but the added block was confirmed 18 hours previous, im assuming this was the loyalty system, either that or they were hiding blocks from the miners, then re adding the hidden blocks at a later date... i do fully accept there could have also been pool issues, crons not running correctly and then relaunching the crons could account for the odd block in reward history. sorry i couldn't be any more helpful :/


Sounds from what you are saying, it is merely listing the newest blocks found on the top and rather than listing conformations it is stating how many conformations are left.  99 confirms left indicating the newest, 5 confirms left is 2nd newest and the 18 hour previous is obviously confirmed.  seems correct order to me.

no normally they are always in found order, ive only ever seen it the once but it was strange to say the least :/

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December 26, 2015, 08:27:29 PM
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It seems that now we're at about 40PH/s luck has taken a fall again.... Huh
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December 26, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
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It seems that now we're at about 40PH/s luck has taken a fall again.... Huh

Looks like the effective rate is around 20PH/s. The question is where the other 20s go to. Undecided

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