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April 02, 2016, 06:39:05 PM
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should not go on antpool that takes many blocks?  why go to Kano?

They may mine more blocks, but your share is going to be much, much smaller.

Antpool has historical luck at 100%, while Kano is at 107.41% all time.

Antpool claims to pay 25 BTC, but keeps the transaction fees. Kano takes >1% and gives the miners the transaction fees. The average block payout since I joined is 25.15 BTC.

That is just one of the reasons why those of us who are at Kano are such fans. I mined at Slush for over 2 years and ran when the 30 day luck hovered around 85% for 3 months. And where is it now? Right at 85% again. Not to mention the block withholding attack that went on for months. Or the orphan fiasco last year, that went on way too long. Slush almost never responds to his miners.

Do you own math and research. But there is a reason so many people recommend Kano
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April 02, 2016, 06:52:41 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.
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April 04, 2016, 12:27:50 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

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April 24, 2016, 04:30:13 AM
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14 hours no luck Angry
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April 24, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
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14 hours no luck Angry

Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?
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April 24, 2016, 06:30:51 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

Best Regards
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Yet again this thread goes nearly 3 weeks without a post until all of a sudden there's a slight period of low luck and people start whining and demanding that Slush is doing something unethical *100% confirming my original post* while the pool itself sits at over 100% for the last couple weeks.
I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)

Quit shilling for Kano, I don't debate for a second whether it is a legitimate and well-run pool. But coming into this thread simply looking to boost the HP at Kano by sowing doubt in Slush does not reflect well on you or Kano. The fact that Slush continues to beat Kano in overall hashrate indicates that either:

A. According to your arguments, the 56PH worth of miners on Slush are all idiots that don't know shit about mining, which I certainly doubt.
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B. Slushpool is a bitcoin mining pool like any other, and your arguments continue to be petty and unsubstantiated.

Also,
No one is going to argue whether a 0.9% fee is smaller than a 2% fee, however there are very well-reasoned arguments that lower fee pools are less likely to survive a period of unforeseeable bad luck. I personally doubt this is the case with Kano as the admins are very experienced in this field, however, if people want to pay an additional 1.1% for access to a beautifully done website with democratic hashpower voting and well put together worker monitoring etc. etc. That is their choice to make, and people still make that choice every day to the tune of ~8PH added to slush in the last month.

Again, I would very much welcome any hard data regarding any reward withholding, slow task switching, corroboration with block withholders, or anything else that may convince me that Slush is anything less than 100% legit.


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April 25, 2016, 04:52:25 PM
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Hey guys,

is it possible to merge-mine SIL (SixEleven) with SlushPool to improve the profit ratio?

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April 25, 2016, 05:28:36 PM
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Slushpool currently only merge-mines Namecoin, if you wish to suggest another coin, feel free to introduce a new proposal under: Help Center - Development Corner, and the miners will vote whether or not to add it.

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April 27, 2016, 04:56:11 PM
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Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.


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April 27, 2016, 05:10:26 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

Best Regards
Doug


Yet again this thread goes nearly 3 weeks without a post until all of a sudden there's a slight period of low luck and people start whining and demanding that Slush is doing something unethical *100% confirming my original post* while the pool itself sits at over 100% for the last couple weeks.
I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)

Quit shilling for Kano, I don't debate for a second whether it is a legitimate and well-run pool. But coming into this thread simply looking to boost the HP at Kano by sowing doubt in Slush does not reflect well on you or Kano. The fact that Slush continues to beat Kano in overall hashrate indicates that either:

A. According to your arguments, the 56PH worth of miners on Slush are all idiots that don't know shit about mining, which I certainly doubt.
or
B. Slushpool is a bitcoin mining pool like any other, and your arguments continue to be petty and unsubstantiated.

Also,
No one is going to argue whether a 0.9% fee is smaller than a 2% fee, however there are very well-reasoned arguments that lower fee pools are less likely to survive a period of unforeseeable bad luck. I personally doubt this is the case with Kano as the admins are very experienced in this field, however, if people want to pay an additional 1.1% for access to a beautifully done website with democratic hashpower voting and well put together worker monitoring etc. etc. That is their choice to make, and people still make that choice every day to the tune of ~8PH added to slush in the last month.

Again, I would very much welcome any hard data regarding any reward withholding, slow task switching, corroboration with block withholders, or anything else that may convince me that Slush is anything less than 100% legit.


Cheers,

Erumara

I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)


Ok well to correct you its 10 min per block not 4.5 hours like you state.   They was working on old work up to 1 min on each and every bitcoin block which is 10 % efficiency lost.. looking at this site here they have now got their shit together.. i will dig for the old posts when i have a chance.. it was up to 1 min for a long time before they corrected it.. And this was after he had an issue with the relay network.  like i said like beating a dead horse ... im over this but to back up my claim i will take the time to find my old posts. Roll Eyes  https://poolbench.antminer.link/  

Best Regards
Doug

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

well i cant seem to find any posts with that larger delay in block propagation.. but i seen them personally.. believe me or not.. not for me to worry about.. here is a link you can start with and work your way back a few pages.. but more importantly from that link on..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13238801#msg13238801

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April 27, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
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Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.
I'm seeing that too.  But the unconfirmed namecoin dust is apparently being added to the right-hand figure.

I like the new dashboard screen, but I'd prefer all the reward figures to have a fixed number of digits after the decimal point, including any least significant zeros.  I have a mild panic attack when (for example) 0,00821476 becomes 0,0086147 and for just one horrible moment I think it's been nobbled!

Edit: Also, the 'Time since' does not update without a full page refresh, and the recent hash rate graph is broken – only showing the top left one-sixth.

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April 27, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

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April 27, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

My bullshit detector says it is just that and he doesn't want to be liable for the loses incurred due to being a shit pool OP

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April 27, 2016, 06:45:30 PM
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Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -

46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!

It's usually 48 hours.....

Nothing else has altered, all miners running and hashrate showing stable on pool stats page Huh

Anyone Huh

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April 27, 2016, 08:47:08 PM
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Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -
46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!
It's usually 48 hours.....
I think it's another new unintended 'feature' (see posts 21889 and 21891 above).  Grin

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April 27, 2016, 09:17:25 PM
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Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -
46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!
It's usually 48 hours.....
I think it's another new unintended 'feature' (see posts 21889 and 21891 above).  Grin

lol, that's from 1970-01-01 noon default.

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April 27, 2016, 10:27:00 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough


So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

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April 28, 2016, 12:34:15 AM
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Maybe yesterday we had so many blocks. The pool couldn't handle it. lol
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April 28, 2016, 06:29:50 AM
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Well it's still showing 46 Years 4 Months........lol

It's still finding blocks ??

Is there a BETTER pool that has a good interface as i need to remotely monitor miners as most are remote from me and need resetting at times.

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April 28, 2016, 11:32:26 AM
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looks ike the webfront is being updated theres also a Hash Rate Proof not sure if its new but i havent seen it before
Hash Rate Proof

hash Rate Proof
What is Hash Rate Proof?

Hash Rate Proof is a method developed by Slush pool with the aim to prove that total hash rate of the pool declared by pool operator is accurate.
Why is such Proof useful?

Until recently independent third party verification of hash rate which the pool has been publishing was not possible. Bitcoin miners have had to trust the pool operator to be honest. But we have decided to be even more transparent and start to publish more comprehensive data. Such transparency and more comprehensive data-set will allow everyone to answer following questions and do some interesting data investigations as well.

    Have you ever wondered if the hash rate of the pool is accurate and pool does not cheat the miners on payouts?
    Did you experienced "Bad Luck" period with the pool and questioned the pool operator's honesty?
    Would you like to check the pool "luck" on different difficulty levels?
    Are you interested in quite exact distribution of BIP voting (which we plan to release in near future)?
    and more to come

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https://slushpool.com/help/#!/manual/hashrate-proof

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