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April 28, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough


So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry Huh  I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips Grin
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

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That's not really a response to my (rhetorical) question.


Itll have to suffice  Kiss I've wasted more than enough on this yet another half ass attempt at a Bitcoin "service".  Constructive Critisism usually ends up getting the most accomplished. Esp when it's in the open.  If we just keep allowing half assed attempts the Bitcoin will only ever be that.  A half assed attempt at something that could have been great.  I'd still argue China has way way too many along with the early adopters.  Kinda defeats the whole purpose of distributed wealth.  But that's a whole other can of worms. 

Ps. A great way of handling situations can be learned with the handling of the recent shapeshift hack.  Openess is key!

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April 29, 2016, 05:25:23 AM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough


So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry Huh  I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips Grin
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

Best Regards

That's not really a response to my (rhetorical) question.


Itll have to suffice  Kiss I've wasted more than enough on this yet another half ass attempt at a Bitcoin "service".  Constructive Critisism usually ends up getting the most accomplished. Esp when it's in the open.  If we just keep allowing half assed attempts the Bitcoin will only ever be that.  A half assed attempt at something that could have been great.  I'd still argue China has way way too many along with the early adopters.  Kinda defeats the whole purpose of distributed wealth.  But that's a whole other can of worms. 

Ps. A great way of handling situations can be learned with the handling of the recent shapeshift hack.  Openess is key!

Best regards
Doug

Transparency is key, yes. However you were advocating that a minority dictate privacy policy for the majority, which is different.





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April 29, 2016, 05:49:49 AM
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looks ike the webfront is being updated theres also a Hash Rate Proof not sure if its new but i havent seen it before
Hash Rate Proof

hash Rate Proof
What is Hash Rate Proof?

Hash Rate Proof is a method developed by Slush pool with the aim to prove that total hash rate of the pool declared by pool operator is accurate.
Why is such Proof useful?

Until recently independent third party verification of hash rate which the pool has been publishing was not possible. Bitcoin miners have had to trust the pool operator to be honest. But we have decided to be even more transparent and start to publish more comprehensive data. Such transparency and more comprehensive data-set will allow everyone to answer following questions and do some interesting data investigations as well.

    Have you ever wondered if the hash rate of the pool is accurate and pool does not cheat the miners on payouts?
    Did you experienced "Bad Luck" period with the pool and questioned the pool operator's honesty?
    Would you like to check the pool "luck" on different difficulty levels?
    Are you interested in quite exact distribution of BIP voting (which we plan to release in near future)?
    and more to come

more can be found here

https://slushpool.com/help/#!/manual/hashrate-proof


I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

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I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

Please elaborate, those numbers make absolutely zero sense. 100% luck you should be making ~0.09856 every two days, down from ~0.11264 every 2 days due to difficulty change on Apr 14.

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I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

Please elaborate, those numbers make absolutely zero sense. 100% luck you should be making ~0.09856 every two days, down from ~0.11264 every 2 days due to difficulty change on Apr 14.

I will have to answer that question in detail later as 6 of my miners (6Th) went offline and i have only turned them back on about 1.5 hours ago.

BUT usually when i connect back to the pool the scoring hashrate usually matches the miners hashrate BUT they are ALL but one running at 0.16 Huh? I have not altered ANY details !!!!!

One of the miners is showing a scoring hashrate of over 6Th Huh? The machines are all 1Th.......

NEVER  came across this before.....

The scoring hashrate on the main dashboard is correct (17.5Th) BUT the individual miner hashrate is not ??




The ones that have been off for a few hours are the DADS_



Any ideas ??

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April 30, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
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I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

Please elaborate, those numbers make absolutely zero sense. 100% luck you should be making ~0.09856 every two days, down from ~0.11264 every 2 days due to difficulty change on Apr 14.

I will have to answer that question in detail later as 6 of my miners (6Th) went offline and i have only turned them back on about 1.5 hours ago.

BUT usually when i connect back to the pool the scoring hashrate usually matches the miners hashrate BUT they are ALL but one running at 0.16 Huh? I have not altered ANY details !!!!!

One of the miners is showing a scoring hashrate of over 6Th Huh? The machines are all 1Th.......

NEVER  came across this before.....

The scoring hashrate on the main dashboard is correct (17.5Th) BUT the individual miner hashrate is not ??

Any ideas ??
Sounds like those 6 miners are all pointed to the same worker name.
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I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

Please elaborate, those numbers make absolutely zero sense. 100% luck you should be making ~0.09856 every two days, down from ~0.11264 every 2 days due to difficulty change on Apr 14.

I will have to answer that question in detail later as 6 of my miners (6Th) went offline and i have only turned them back on about 1.5 hours ago.

BUT usually when i connect back to the pool the scoring hashrate usually matches the miners hashrate BUT they are ALL but one running at 0.16 Huh? I have not altered ANY details !!!!!

One of the miners is showing a scoring hashrate of over 6Th Huh? The machines are all 1Th.......

NEVER  came across this before.....

The scoring hashrate on the main dashboard is correct (17.5Th) BUT the individual miner hashrate is not ??

Any ideas ??
Sounds like those 6 miners are all pointed to the same worker name.

That could be it, i added th tag DADS_ to the worker name on the workers page of the pool BUT this was last week.

I have not altered any of the miner details though....

I will remove the DADS_ prefix reference and add it to LABELS section for reference.

Thanks

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May 04, 2016, 07:09:30 AM
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SLUSH POOL IS HOT! Smiley DOUBLE TIME!
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May 04, 2016, 08:31:07 AM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".

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May 04, 2016, 09:18:24 AM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".

I used to mine on P2Pool BUT had no remote access or any way of monitoring my miners, some Dragon/LKETC miners just stop for some reason and need restarting. I did leave an old netbook on the local network with Teamviewer installed but it got nicked...lol

I only use Slush for it's great interface, even though i only get around just over 0.1 BTC every 2 days at 17.6Th.

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May 08, 2016, 06:37:53 PM
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Slush is rolling lately congrats.
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Slush is rolling lately congrats.

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May 11, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".
It is rather a lot of people who mine know variance effects and know that after rain comes sunshine. No need to hurry.

Moreover it seems that the sun shines on the pool of slush now!
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May 11, 2016, 12:12:18 PM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".
It is rather a lot of people who mine know variance effects and know that after rain comes sunshine. No need to hurry.

Moreover it seems that the sun shines on the pool of slush now!
If people truly understood how the variance works, they'd know that past rain has no bearing whatsoever on future sunshine.

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May 11, 2016, 02:02:57 PM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".
It is rather a lot of people who mine know variance effects and know that after rain comes sunshine. No need to hurry.

Moreover it seems that the sun shines on the pool of slush now!
If people truly understood how the variance works, they'd know that past rain has no bearing whatsoever on future sunshine.

while that is true it is only true with completely level equipment and software.

Best two examples   as follows

1) two guys flip a set of true coins.  They both should do 50 -50

But one guy is very good with his hands and due to his skill level can truly flip and get 55-45

That would be great software.

2) two guys flip a set of coins one is loaded to turn heads

so the guy with a loaded coin will do 53-47

This would be great servers  + great internet + ddos protection

So in our game  100% luck   may not be normal for the pool of your choice.

The pool with months of 93% luck  may be doing its best since it works with poor software or is ddos over and over.

And a pool with months of 102% luck  may be under preforming and having truly bad luck.
Since it is 
coded great, has great gear ,great internet, and great ddos protection. 

So how do you determine what pool to use?  Beats me I use 3 or 4 of them.



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Hardware, connectivity, software, etc all do indeed play roles in the overall performance of a pool.  For example, we all know there are some "bad actors" out there, and those actors have taken advantage via block withholding attacks (here, Eligius, BTCGuild).

However, my point wasn't to compare the possibilities of someone gaming the system to influence things, it was simply a statement that past performance has no bearing on future performance.  Previous events (i.e. I solved 5 blocks in a row under 0.5 CDF) do not influence future.  In other words, you cannot state, "We have been unlucky for the past 5 blocks, therefore, we are due for good luck."  Or, to use the euphemism of the previous poster, "yesterday's rain does not guarantee today's sunshine."

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May 11, 2016, 02:20:18 PM
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Hardware, connectivity, software, etc all do indeed play roles in the overall performance of a pool.  For example, we all know there are some "bad actors" out there, and those actors have taken advantage via block withholding attacks (here, Eligius, BTCGuild).

However, my point wasn't to compare the possibilities of someone gaming the system to influence things, it was simply a statement that past performance has no bearing on future performance.  Previous events (i.e. I solved 5 blocks in a row under 0.5 CDF) do not influence future.  In other words, you cannot state, "We have been unlucky for the past 5 blocks, therefore, we are due for good luck."  Or, to use the euphemism of the previous poster, "yesterday's rain does not guarantee today's sunshine."

True enough.

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http://www.newmusicbox.org/articles/From-Computer-Models-of-Musical-Creativity/  i take it noone read this.  Cry

too each their own.. This is all about perspective.  we all know that after 10,000 blocks it will be near .5 cdf. 100 % luck whatever your flavor, using that logic one can (not with 100% certainty) predict future luck.. I say do what you want.  Again its a perspective issue.  

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May 11, 2016, 02:28:19 PM
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Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?

This is called "an inertia".
It is rather a lot of people who mine know variance effects and know that after rain comes sunshine. No need to hurry.

Moreover it seems that the sun shines on the pool of slush now!
If people truly understood how the variance works, they'd know that past rain has no bearing whatsoever on future sunshine.

Maybe a better way to put it is that while it is raining, that is to be expected, because it will rain from time to time. But we can also expect sunshine, because there will be sunshine from time to time. Over a long enough period of time, we are likely to see that we've had the appropriate amount of rain and sunshine.
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May 11, 2016, 02:30:15 PM
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Yes, that is exactly how you can state it.

@d57: 100% luck is 0.63 CDF.

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