[150+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool

[smracer]

Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.

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[d57heinz]

The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.

I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

Best Regards
Doug

Yet again this thread goes nearly 3 weeks without a post until all of a sudden there's a slight period of low luck and people start whining and demanding that Slush is doing something unethical *100% confirming my original post* while the pool itself sits at over 100% for the last couple weeks.
I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)

Quit shilling for Kano, I don't debate for a second whether it is a legitimate and well-run pool. But coming into this thread simply looking to boost the HP at Kano by sowing doubt in Slush does not reflect well on you or Kano. The fact that Slush continues to beat Kano in overall hashrate indicates that either:

A. According to your arguments, the 56PH worth of miners on Slush are all idiots that don't know shit about mining, which I certainly doubt.
or
B. Slushpool is a bitcoin mining pool like any other, and your arguments continue to be petty and unsubstantiated.

Also,
No one is going to argue whether a 0.9% fee is smaller than a 2% fee, however there are very well-reasoned arguments that lower fee pools are less likely to survive a period of unforeseeable bad luck. I personally doubt this is the case with Kano as the admins are very experienced in this field, however, if people want to pay an additional 1.1% for access to a beautifully done website with democratic hashpower voting and well put together worker monitoring etc. etc. That is their choice to make, and people still make that choice every day to the tune of ~8PH added to slush in the last month.

Again, I would very much welcome any hard data regarding any reward withholding, slow task switching, corroboration with block withholders, or anything else that may convince me that Slush is anything less than 100% legit.


Cheers,

Erumara

I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)


Ok well to correct you its 10 min per block not 4.5 hours like you state.   They was working on old work up to 1 min on each and every bitcoin block which is 10 % efficiency lost.. looking at this site here they have now got their shit together.. i will dig for the old posts when i have a chance.. it was up to 1 min for a long time before they corrected it.. And this was after he had an issue with the relay network.  like i said like beating a dead horse ... im over this but to back up my claim i will take the time to find my old posts.  https://poolbench.antminer.link/  

Best Regards
Doug

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

well i cant seem to find any posts with that larger delay in block propagation.. but i seen them personally.. believe me or not.. not for me to worry about.. here is a link you can start with and work your way back a few pages.. but more importantly from that link on..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13238801#msg13238801

Best Regards
Doug

[Sir Alan]

Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.

I'm seeing that too.  But the unconfirmed namecoin dust is apparently being added to the right-hand figure.

I like the new dashboard screen, but I'd prefer all the reward figures to have a fixed number of digits after the decimal point, including any least significant zeros.  I have a mild panic attack when (for example) 0,00821476 becomes 0,0086147 and for just one horrible moment I think it's been nobbled!

Edit: Also, the 'Time since' does not update without a full page refresh, and the recent hash rate graph is broken – only showing the top left one-sixth.

[Sir Alan]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

[d57heinz]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

My bullshit detector says it is just that and he doesn't want to be liable for the loses incurred due to being a shit pool OP

Best Regards

[bilabonic]

Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -

46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!

It's usually 48 hours.....

Nothing else has altered, all miners running and hashrate showing stable on pool stats page

Anyone

[Sir Alan]

Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -
46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!
It's usually 48 hours.....

I think it's another new unintended 'feature' (see posts 21889 and 21891 above). 

[tmfp]

Why has my Estimated Payout Period just jumped to -
46 Years 4 Months !!!!!!!!
It's usually 48 hours.....

I think it's another new unintended 'feature' (see posts 21889 and 21891 above). 

lol, that's from 1970-01-01 noon default.

[organofcorti]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

[simonpeter35]

Maybe yesterday we had so many blocks. The pool couldn't handle it. lol

[bilabonic]

Well it's still showing 46 Years 4 Months........lol

It's still finding blocks ??

Is there a BETTER pool that has a good interface as i need to remotely monitor miners as most are remote from me and need resetting at times.

Cheers

[welshy9]

looks ike the webfront is being updated theres also a Hash Rate Proof not sure if its new but i havent seen it before
Hash Rate Proof

hash Rate Proof
What is Hash Rate Proof?

Hash Rate Proof is a method developed by Slush pool with the aim to prove that total hash rate of the pool declared by pool operator is accurate.
Why is such Proof useful?

Until recently independent third party verification of hash rate which the pool has been publishing was not possible. Bitcoin miners have had to trust the pool operator to be honest. But we have decided to be even more transparent and start to publish more comprehensive data. Such transparency and more comprehensive data-set will allow everyone to answer following questions and do some interesting data investigations as well.

    Have you ever wondered if the hash rate of the pool is accurate and pool does not cheat the miners on payouts?
    Did you experienced "Bad Luck" period with the pool and questioned the pool operator's honesty?
    Would you like to check the pool "luck" on different difficulty levels?
    Are you interested in quite exact distribution of BIP voting (which we plan to release in near future)?
    and more to come

more can be found here

https://slushpool.com/help/#!/manual/hashrate-proof

[Herv12]

Well it's still showing 46 Years 4 Months........lol

It's still finding blocks ??

Is there a BETTER pool that has a good interface as i need to remotely monitor miners as most are remote from me and need resetting at times.

Cheers

it depends on what you are looking for. Before i was thinking slush was the best, but now i use kano.

put some miners on Kano, and take time to understand, you will see. Interface isn't beautiful, but when you undestand as it works, it's better than slush and give you more informations.

There is no secret information on Kano, all is published (who win block...).

Be careful when you name your miners, because name will be use to group them to have lot vision on graph. Name of miner needs to begin by the groupinf text.

Exemple: if you want to group by model name should be .S3_WORKER1, .S7_Worker10 ...

[Sir Alan]

It appears that most of the glitches in the new dashboard layout have been fixed, although the 'Time since' box is still not updating automatically.

When I reported the bugs I also suggested that the reward value fields should display any least significant zeros, as I described in an earlier post; I cannot yet be sure if this has been done, but I suspect it has because the payout threshold field now has the full eight decimal places.

[d57heinz]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry   I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

Best Regards

[organofcorti]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry  I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

Best Regards

That's not really a response to my (rhetorical) question.

[d57heinz]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry  I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

Best Regards

That's not really a response to my (rhetorical) question.

Itll have to suffice  I've wasted more than enough on this yet another half ass attempt at a Bitcoin "service".  Constructive Critisism usually ends up getting the most accomplished. Esp when it's in the open.  If we just keep allowing half assed attempts the Bitcoin will only ever be that.  A half assed attempt at something that could have been great.  I'd still argue China has way way too many along with the early adopters.  Kinda defeats the whole purpose of distributed wealth.  But that's a whole other can of worms. 

Ps. A great way of handling situations can be learned with the handling of the recent shapeshift hack.  Openess is key!

Best regards
Doug

[organofcorti]

EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

So whenever *some* of the pool want information, slush should divulge it? If anything is relevant to anyone, slush should provide it? That's not how privacy works, bud.

By the number and type of posts you write it's obvious you have a bone to pick here, but if you don't argue logically you're not doing your cause any favours -- you just seem angry and volatile.

 
 

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/04/april-24th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

i like how he only goes back 250 blocks lmao.. i wonder why.. Its not until the few months back when he had a stretch of 5 months of fuckups.. thats what im aggravated about.. he ignored us for a long time before bothering to come here and post even after i posted to facebook.. Now like i said it appears he got his shit together.. but looking at the stats you provide the clear picture shows up(26 weeks and 52 weeks!).  Just the last month great luck has he recovered the bad stats this pool had for over 6 months.... No bone to pick.. i had dropped this thread a long time ago.. but people keep coming on here bitching about the pool.(ive quit following this thread). Just move already to kano and problem solved.. I dont shill for him this is about money RIGHT? and his pool pays the best of the entire network.. its a no brainer.


PS  a simple hey guys i fucked up and its all fixed now would have sufficed.. But the attitude i get(and continue to get) is he dont give two fucks.. He got plenty of miners that apparently blind follow and dont care about profits.. Hard to believe in this industry  I think his following now is mostly due to him allowing so many options for bitcoin path lol.  Im sure the system can handle about 20 more ports/wallets for all the different Bips
Anyway  ive put myself out here enough on this matter.. To each their own..Peace and prosperity to all:)

Best Regards

That's not really a response to my (rhetorical) question.

Itll have to suffice  I've wasted more than enough on this yet another half ass attempt at a Bitcoin "service".  Constructive Critisism usually ends up getting the most accomplished. Esp when it's in the open.  If we just keep allowing half assed attempts the Bitcoin will only ever be that.  A half assed attempt at something that could have been great.  I'd still argue China has way way too many along with the early adopters.  Kinda defeats the whole purpose of distributed wealth.  But that's a whole other can of worms. 

Ps. A great way of handling situations can be learned with the handling of the recent shapeshift hack.  Openess is key!

Best regards
Doug

Transparency is key, yes. However you were advocating that a minority dictate privacy policy for the majority, which is different.

[bilabonic]

looks ike the webfront is being updated theres also a Hash Rate Proof not sure if its new but i havent seen it before
Hash Rate Proof

hash Rate Proof
What is Hash Rate Proof?

Hash Rate Proof is a method developed by Slush pool with the aim to prove that total hash rate of the pool declared by pool operator is accurate.
Why is such Proof useful?

Until recently independent third party verification of hash rate which the pool has been publishing was not possible. Bitcoin miners have had to trust the pool operator to be honest. But we have decided to be even more transparent and start to publish more comprehensive data. Such transparency and more comprehensive data-set will allow everyone to answer following questions and do some interesting data investigations as well.

    Have you ever wondered if the hash rate of the pool is accurate and pool does not cheat the miners on payouts?
    Did you experienced "Bad Luck" period with the pool and questioned the pool operator's honesty?
    Would you like to check the pool "luck" on different difficulty levels?
    Are you interested in quite exact distribution of BIP voting (which we plan to release in near future)?
    and more to come

more can be found here

https://slushpool.com/help/#!/manual/hashrate-proof

I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

[Erumara]

I have noticed that in the last 12 days that my payout at every 2 days is now always 0.0079xxxx, before that it was ALWAYS 0.009xxxxx.

I am running at about 17.6TH.

Please elaborate, those numbers make absolutely zero sense. 100% luck you should be making ~0.09856 every two days, down from ~0.11264 every 2 days due to difficulty change on Apr 14.