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January 13, 2016, 12:44:08 PM
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Find another pool with better luck, cant be so hard? Dont get it why you stay here..

As I wrote a few entries above it is not so easy...Kano is great (where I assume you are still) but with my low hashing power and Kano's rising popularity the dust limitation is a serious issue, the chinese pools are not for me so in the end Slush, when working, remains the best solution. I am hopeful that at some point soon Slush will speak up and let us know what they have determined is the problem...this trend, which is now clearly established, of significantly better luck with 33-34 PH as opposed to the 39-40 PH must be something they are aware of and from their side can investigate.

I suppose for the lack of any other real option I remain optimistic that Slush is being honest with the miners and is not engaged in something under-the-table as has been suggested here by others.
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January 13, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
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To be blunt your "other real option" might be investing in a little more hash power (i.e. assuming you are mining as a hobby or for reasons comparable).
If there was some degree of transparency with this pool I might have stuck around, but sadly there is not and there also is little-to-no communication from the admin. Variance is one thing, but when there's a 7-10 PH/s hike and luck concurrently seems to plummet (and this becomes reoccurring or pattern-like) it's difficult to continue mining and just assume everything's working as normal.
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January 13, 2016, 04:34:40 PM
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The mysterious hash appeared again. How's everyone's "luck"?
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January 13, 2016, 06:01:19 PM
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To be blunt your "other real option" might be investing in a little more hash power (i.e. assuming you are mining as a hobby or for reasons comparable).
If there was some degree of transparency with this pool I might have stuck around, but sadly there is not and there also is little-to-no communication from the admin. Variance is one thing, but when there's a 7-10 PH/s hike and luck concurrently seems to plummet (and this becomes reoccurring or pattern-like) it's difficult to continue mining and just assume everything's working as normal.

I do appreciate what you are saying, it started as a hobby for me but the more I learn about BTC and the community the more involved I want to get. I have been giving some thought to upgrading equipment but I have a problem with the mining rigs that are presently on the market...I live in a flat which means noise is an issue...my 4 U3's are quiet and only noticeable when in the office...I considered selling the four off and replacing them with an S5 or S7 but of course the noise would most definitely be an issue. I live in Germany presently, most Germans are overly "sensitive" to noise pollution and they love to complain, not sure if the noise from a more powerful rig would cause problems with my neighbours. I have rented rigs a few times and pointed to Kano, just barely broke even on a one week rental and since then I have read that renting hash power is rarely a good idea.

It may end up in future that to participate in BTC I will have to buy directly with fiat or or some other method (anyone know of an exchange which converts precious metals to BTC for example)? The trust issue is still pretty discouraging in obtaining BTC for fiat. For now I like my setup and the little I earn helps me to explore BTC and the possibilities. When I started Slush was generating .01 every 4 days which worked for me, now it is ten days for a payout when the extra hashing power problem is present. Eventually I am hopeful I will find another pool or solution, for now it would just be nice to hear something constructive from Slush. Antpool takes about 5 days to generate the .01 so I will probably end up over there if nothing changes in the next few days, in the end because it is a hobby I would like to still give Slush a chance to explain though...the site does have a nice interface and the previous support was always top.
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January 14, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
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Back up to nearly the 40ph/s mark and "luck" has taken a steady dive over the last few days....

Yep..it really is unbelievable, wish somebody from Slush could provide some guidance on where they think the problem lies, has been a month now since Slush announced that they were going to look into the issue but since then nothing...is horrible to see this happen over and over again, always thought more hashing power was supposed to be a good thing!!

Well thats the problem.. slush is NEVER going to come out and tell you there was a problem if indeed he discovers what it is.. Reason is there will be no way to ever recover your loses.. If its an attack and not variance then you can just kiss the loss over the last 4months good bye!  Id say just move over to kano.. Your making such little amount anyway that i doubt you need to be paid every 4 -10 days,  Kano is actively working on a payout solution as his pool is growing and we get multiple payouts per day. Im sure he will address the dust payments aswell.. Maybe try going to Kano thread and ask him about it there. Im sure he will be happy to answer your question.  Please whatever you do try to support a smaller pool. Antpool and those of that size need to step it down a bit already!

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January 14, 2016, 04:13:37 PM
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Back up to nearly the 40ph/s mark and "luck" has taken a steady dive over the last few days....

Yep..it really is unbelievable, wish somebody from Slush could provide some guidance on where they think the problem lies, has been a month now since Slush announced that they were going to look into the issue but since then nothing...is horrible to see this happen over and over again, always thought more hashing power was supposed to be a good thing!!

Well thats the problem.. slush is NEVER going to come out and tell you there was a problem if indeed he discovers what it is.. Reason is there will be no way to ever recover your loses.. If its an attack and not variance then you can just kiss the loss over the last 4months good bye!  Id say just move over to kano.. Your making such little amount anyway that i doubt you need to be paid every 4 -10 days,  Kano is actively working on a payout solution as his pool is growing and we get multiple payouts per day. Im sure he will address the dust payments aswell.. Maybe try going to Kano thread and ask him about it there. Im sure he will be happy to answer your question.  Please whatever you do try to support a smaller pool. Antpool and those of that size need to step it down a bit already!

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I do see your point there, if the problem was affecting his pocket then I am sure he would be more proactive in determining what is going on...even if he were never to openly admit there was (or had been) an issue we would have seen a performance change by now, really is pretty rotten in the end. I am going to run my rigs on Slush until I eventually reach the next payout and then take another look at Kano...I must say that I read an exchange on his thread about the dust payments before and his response (basically that it was not a priority) kind of put me off; in comparison to the big miners of course dust does not matter but when you are only looking to mine .01 a week those dust payments become important. All of my earnings get automatically reinvested so the regular weekly payments that Slush used to generate are important for my model.

I do appreciate your comments and advice, will probably see you on Kano at some point! 
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January 14, 2016, 09:11:39 PM
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Hm, any1 else having problems with the site?

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January 14, 2016, 10:18:37 PM
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I just moved all my machines, I was losing too much Angry
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January 14, 2016, 10:55:28 PM
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i was with slush for a while but i moved out last month when i noticed there were not many blocks being found anymore for some strange reason. i am not with antpool,and i am satisfied so far.

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January 14, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
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Yea i did that too, i was with them from the start when i bought my first miners and suddenly the hash rate spiked from 12PH to 30PH over night! So i said to myself ok they will find more blocks so everything will be the same. But no.. This fuckers hit the same amount blocks with 18PH more, i mean wtffff my payouts lowered and and nothing else! My guess is that they lie for the PH showing on their web. If im wrong please correct me. I switched to KANO Pool and the guy there is giveing unbeleivable support, and i trust him 100%.
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January 15, 2016, 01:19:27 AM
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I agree with all of you.  I have been with Slush's for A Long Time and hate to leave the Great Dashboard with all of the readouts in just the right place for seeing all of my miners performance.

-----BUT-----

What is the primary goal?  Ease of use, information, tracking,........NO......

The Primary Goal is PROFITABILITY.   Slush's is really lacking in this right now.  I have moved many of my miners to another pool already and will be moving the rest of them tomorrow.  I will really miss the dashboard!  I have yet to see any UI comparison!


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January 15, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?
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January 15, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?

My recommendation is CKPool "kano.is"  I have run an analysis between Slush's and CKPool and have a much higher payout with CKPool.  Also the administers of the pool Kano and CK are right there to answer questions and respond.  Here is the link to the forum:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13558188#msg13558188   The people on the forum are very intelligent and have a good time discussing the pool!

Their Dashboard is not anything compared to Slush's, but what is it all about looks or payouts?  Although, a very smart guy "ZachM" is developing some very good readouts to form a new Dashboard on a separate url:  http://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/index.php




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January 16, 2016, 05:53:20 AM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?

The answer is none of the above, especially not a dirty Chinese pool like antpool. Get your miners pointed to kano.is you won't regret it.
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January 18, 2016, 02:57:40 AM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?
You could also just look at renting your miner out on a site like MiningRigRentals. From my experience you tend to earn a slight bit more renting miners out than mining straight bitcoin. If you don't want to manually manage rentals, another option would be to use NiceHash. They manage all the rentals for you, and then just pay you out.

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January 18, 2016, 05:10:43 AM
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Apart from the luck issue I would like to know if Slush's pool is going to support Bitcoin classic with its 2MB block size? I believe that would be the right decision.

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January 19, 2016, 03:07:23 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?

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January 19, 2016, 03:30:15 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...

And some days ago there was a friday with over 5 blocks, so..
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January 19, 2016, 03:49:05 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?
You're basing your judgement on 2 blocks...?





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January 19, 2016, 02:26:23 PM
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It's just a complete lack of understanding on his part... his whole theory is, "they solve more blocks, therefore they're better".  If he bothered to take a look at all, he'd see that kano.is would have netted him more coin than the "communist mining companies" as he calls them...

You posting facts and showing data just scares him Tongue

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