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April 01, 2016, 03:13:20 PM
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and with slush inefficiencies.. they have to go to another pool.. so let see where is all the blocks being found at.. at least above average.. slush is killing his miners.  

Description   Time   MeanTx%   Diff%   Mean%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%
Last 5 Blocks   22.1hrs   101.8%   67.09%   67.20%   0.2484   148.81%
Last 10 Blocks   1.3days   101.7%   48.13%   48.14%   0.0256   207.72%
Last 25 Blocks   4.8days   101.6%   72.90%   72.92%   0.0761   137.13%
Last 50 Blocks   9.9days   101.4%   74.06%   74.07%   0.0243   135.00%
Last 100 Blocks   23.2days   101.2%   89.27%   89.56%   0.1471   111.66%
Last 250 Blocks   9.1wks   101.3%   89.14%   88.81%   0.0344   112.60%
Last 500 Blocks   48.1wks   101.1%   89.74%   90.95%   0.0190   109.96%
All - Last 724 Blocks   80.1wks   100.9%   91.06%   93.12%   0.0298   107.39%

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April 01, 2016, 03:14:07 PM
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should not go on antpool that takes many blocks?  why go to Kano?
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April 01, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
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should not go on antpool that takes many blocks?  why go to Kano?


because if you believe in what btc stands for you wouldn't support a pool backed by bitmain and china is encroaching on 80 % of the network share.. And kano pays tx fees.  and just look at the stats  speak for themself


OHH and one HUGE one if you ask me.. Kano also does not allow miners that withhold blocks to continue to fuck over the users.. Id say thats enough incentive there!  Hey slush how about some details on the hardware of that with holding attack? ya thats what i thought Roll Eyes.. something is very fishy here to say the least.. maybe the OP speed of the pool is the true speed Roll Eyes.. That would be about right.. so again its the same 10 ph miner fucking the pool over Or this is slush stealing.. Only two options!.  quick way to check for that is that all of the blocks rewards are paid out.. there should be nothing left over from the blocks once paid out.. except for slush 2 % cut.. which he doesnt deserve.. IMO  another reason to move to kano.. he has excellent accounting.. you get paid when the block matures.  much more transparent as you can see where all the block rewards go..

Honestly if you want to be 100 % safe you have to go solo.. but then you risk that you get orphans. basically for the small guy its an end game.. bottom line..  i dont see many little guys left after the halving .. Which is all part of the big boys plan.. squeeze us all out.. still no sign of 16 nm miners.. doubt public ever see its .. if they do it will be once they have perfected it and sell us the junk. like always.. we are always one or maybe two steps behind the manufacturers..  Sad being how it was the community that brought this all up.. Just like every industry they step on all the little guys to make it big.. then leave us for dead.. Such a sad system! 

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April 01, 2016, 07:02:31 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.

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April 01, 2016, 08:39:02 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
LOL good luck mining here

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April 02, 2016, 03:27:29 AM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
LOL good luck mining here

Over the years I've had good luck mining here.  I'll leave when I quit mining not before.

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April 02, 2016, 07:56:30 AM
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https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools?resolution=1y   Huh


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April 02, 2016, 06:39:05 PM
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should not go on antpool that takes many blocks?  why go to Kano?

They may mine more blocks, but your share is going to be much, much smaller.

Antpool has historical luck at 100%, while Kano is at 107.41% all time.

Antpool claims to pay 25 BTC, but keeps the transaction fees. Kano takes >1% and gives the miners the transaction fees. The average block payout since I joined is 25.15 BTC.

That is just one of the reasons why those of us who are at Kano are such fans. I mined at Slush for over 2 years and ran when the 30 day luck hovered around 85% for 3 months. And where is it now? Right at 85% again. Not to mention the block withholding attack that went on for months. Or the orphan fiasco last year, that went on way too long. Slush almost never responds to his miners.

Do you own math and research. But there is a reason so many people recommend Kano
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April 02, 2016, 06:52:41 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.
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April 04, 2016, 12:27:50 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

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April 24, 2016, 04:30:13 AM
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14 hours no luck Angry
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April 24, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
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14 hours no luck Angry

Wow...after everything there are still people mining Slush ?!?
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April 24, 2016, 06:30:51 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

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Yet again this thread goes nearly 3 weeks without a post until all of a sudden there's a slight period of low luck and people start whining and demanding that Slush is doing something unethical *100% confirming my original post* while the pool itself sits at over 100% for the last couple weeks.
I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)

Quit shilling for Kano, I don't debate for a second whether it is a legitimate and well-run pool. But coming into this thread simply looking to boost the HP at Kano by sowing doubt in Slush does not reflect well on you or Kano. The fact that Slush continues to beat Kano in overall hashrate indicates that either:

A. According to your arguments, the 56PH worth of miners on Slush are all idiots that don't know shit about mining, which I certainly doubt.
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B. Slushpool is a bitcoin mining pool like any other, and your arguments continue to be petty and unsubstantiated.

Also,
No one is going to argue whether a 0.9% fee is smaller than a 2% fee, however there are very well-reasoned arguments that lower fee pools are less likely to survive a period of unforeseeable bad luck. I personally doubt this is the case with Kano as the admins are very experienced in this field, however, if people want to pay an additional 1.1% for access to a beautifully done website with democratic hashpower voting and well put together worker monitoring etc. etc. That is their choice to make, and people still make that choice every day to the tune of ~8PH added to slush in the last month.

Again, I would very much welcome any hard data regarding any reward withholding, slow task switching, corroboration with block withholders, or anything else that may convince me that Slush is anything less than 100% legit.


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April 25, 2016, 04:52:25 PM
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Hey guys,

is it possible to merge-mine SIL (SixEleven) with SlushPool to improve the profit ratio?

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April 25, 2016, 05:28:36 PM
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Slushpool currently only merge-mines Namecoin, if you wish to suggest another coin, feel free to introduce a new proposal under: Help Center - Development Corner, and the miners will vote whether or not to add it.

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April 27, 2016, 04:56:11 PM
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Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.


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April 27, 2016, 05:10:26 PM
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The only thing more awesome than those two fat blocks in 5mins breaking the bad streak is sitting and waiting for the conspiracy theories and people screaming "Switch pools! Even though they're statistically identical pool x is somehow superior!" every time slush goes >20hrs without a block. Welcome to pool mining people.
I used to feel the same way. Until the 30 day luck stayed around 85% for about 3 months. While not impossible, it is improbable.

If you to look at it solely based on math. Slush keeps 2% in fees and the transaction fees, while Kano only keeps .9%. Even if both pools were at 100% luck (which they aren't) Kano is the better place to mine.

yes and in that same time frame it was discovered that slush was working on old work for up to a min on every block change.. that equates to 10 % right there..

Anyway. like beating a dead horse at this point..

Best Regards
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Yet again this thread goes nearly 3 weeks without a post until all of a sudden there's a slight period of low luck and people start whining and demanding that Slush is doing something unethical *100% confirming my original post* while the pool itself sits at over 100% for the last couple weeks.
I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)

Quit shilling for Kano, I don't debate for a second whether it is a legitimate and well-run pool. But coming into this thread simply looking to boost the HP at Kano by sowing doubt in Slush does not reflect well on you or Kano. The fact that Slush continues to beat Kano in overall hashrate indicates that either:

A. According to your arguments, the 56PH worth of miners on Slush are all idiots that don't know shit about mining, which I certainly doubt.
or
B. Slushpool is a bitcoin mining pool like any other, and your arguments continue to be petty and unsubstantiated.

Also,
No one is going to argue whether a 0.9% fee is smaller than a 2% fee, however there are very well-reasoned arguments that lower fee pools are less likely to survive a period of unforeseeable bad luck. I personally doubt this is the case with Kano as the admins are very experienced in this field, however, if people want to pay an additional 1.1% for access to a beautifully done website with democratic hashpower voting and well put together worker monitoring etc. etc. That is their choice to make, and people still make that choice every day to the tune of ~8PH added to slush in the last month.

Again, I would very much welcome any hard data regarding any reward withholding, slow task switching, corroboration with block withholders, or anything else that may convince me that Slush is anything less than 100% legit.


Cheers,

Erumara

I would be really interested to see the data to back up your claim of Slush working on old blocks for up to a minute. While possible, one minute downtime amounts to (1 min lost efficiency / 4.5hrs per block at 100% luck = 0.37% lost mining time at 100% luck, which I will point out that you have not bothered to actually back up with convincing data or a reference and comes in at a fraction of this claimed 10% loss)


Ok well to correct you its 10 min per block not 4.5 hours like you state.   They was working on old work up to 1 min on each and every bitcoin block which is 10 % efficiency lost.. looking at this site here they have now got their shit together.. i will dig for the old posts when i have a chance.. it was up to 1 min for a long time before they corrected it.. And this was after he had an issue with the relay network.  like i said like beating a dead horse ... im over this but to back up my claim i will take the time to find my old posts. Roll Eyes  https://poolbench.antminer.link/  

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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!

well i cant seem to find any posts with that larger delay in block propagation.. but i seen them personally.. believe me or not.. not for me to worry about.. here is a link you can start with and work your way back a few pages.. but more importantly from that link on..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg13238801#msg13238801

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April 27, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
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Hey Slush,

I think you have the confirmed reward and unconfirmed reward switched on the main page.

Mine is showing it backwards on both of my accounts.
I'm seeing that too.  But the unconfirmed namecoin dust is apparently being added to the right-hand figure.

I like the new dashboard screen, but I'd prefer all the reward figures to have a fixed number of digits after the decimal point, including any least significant zeros.  I have a mild panic attack when (for example) 0,00821476 becomes 0,0086147 and for just one horrible moment I think it's been nobbled!

Edit: Also, the 'Time since' does not update without a full page refresh, and the recent hash rate graph is broken – only showing the top left one-sixth.

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April 27, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

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April 27, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
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EDIT  corroboration with block withholders  Slush never came out with the type of miners and software being used to attack the pool in which he stated he had communication with the attackers. In which many miners lost btc since it went on for months! Check his blog posts. That alone .. withholding crucial info from the community makes him anything but legitimate!
IIRC he did say that it was custom software, which suggests to me that any such information would be totally irrelevant.

Well thats not for you to decide is it.. Its relevant for some and that should be enough

My bullshit detector says it is just that and he doesn't want to be liable for the loses incurred due to being a shit pool OP

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