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December 14, 2017, 08:32:35 AM
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The Health Monitor is also said to detect lung cancer symptoms. Does that mean it detects when you have definite lung cancer cells or does it detect the signs that one is at high risk of getting lung cancer?

I'm somewhat concerned if the system gives a wrong diagnosis and the company will eventually be sued by the concerned user/patient. Smiley

There is a big difference between saying "You have been diagnosed with cancer, start treatment immediately" and "Your breath contains markers that indicate a higher risk of cancer. Consider a professional checkup."

But that is not my question. I want to know if the monitor measures symptoms that are unique to lung cancer patients, or an increased amount of particles that could lead to lung cancer.

To detect contamination of inhaled air, the apparatus is not designed.
He can detect in the exhaled air certain chemicals that are synthesized by diseased cells in the process of carcinogenesis.
If, for example, a high level of pentane is detected in the examination - this may be a sign of several diseases. But if isoprene and ethane are detected against a background of high levels of pentane, then this is already a weighty sign of oncology.
Do not risk getting cancer, but already started the process. After this, you need to go to the doctors, be surveyed, undergo a biopsy, clarify all the details.
Here, the Healt Monitor is just an indicator. Highly sensitive.
is only a first signal, should be seen as prevention, periodic checks, certainly if there are signs of something at the machinery/healt monitor then you have to go to the doctor and deepen the analysis and possibly start the appropriate care
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December 14, 2017, 08:38:15 AM
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The Health Monitor is also said to detect lung cancer symptoms. Does that mean it detects when you have definite lung cancer cells or does it detect the signs that one is at high risk of getting lung cancer?

I'm somewhat concerned if the system gives a wrong diagnosis and the company will eventually be sued by the concerned user/patient. Smiley

That may happen just in the US i think. Everywhere else should be fine as long as there are just few sporadic cases

How do you sue a decentralized project?

Or is this a centralized project, I dont fully understand it yet

There is a company behind the machines produced, so in theory you can sue them
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December 14, 2017, 08:46:35 AM
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The Health Monitor is also said to detect lung cancer symptoms. Does that mean it detects when you have definite lung cancer cells or does it detect the signs that one is at high risk of getting lung cancer?

I'm somewhat concerned if the system gives a wrong diagnosis and the company will eventually be sued by the concerned user/patient. Smiley

There is a big difference between saying "You have been diagnosed with cancer, start treatment immediately" and "Your breath contains markers that indicate a higher risk of cancer. Consider a professional checkup."

But that is not my question. I want to know if the monitor measures symptoms that are unique to lung cancer patients, or an increased amount of particles that could lead to lung cancer.

To detect contamination of inhaled air, the apparatus is not designed.
He can detect in the exhaled air certain chemicals that are synthesized by diseased cells in the process of carcinogenesis.
If, for example, a high level of pentane is detected in the examination - this may be a sign of several diseases. But if isoprene and ethane are detected against a background of high levels of pentane, then this is already a weighty sign of oncology.
Do not risk getting cancer, but already started the process. After this, you need to go to the doctors, be surveyed, undergo a biopsy, clarify all the details.
Here, the Healt Monitor is just an indicator. Highly sensitive.
is only a first signal, should be seen as prevention, periodic checks, certainly if there are signs of something at the machinery/healt monitor then you have to go to the doctor and deepen the analysis and possibly start the appropriate care


Quite right. A person will not do CT or MRI of the lungs until he is all right with well-being. A study on the Healtn Monitor is fast and cheap, allows you to accurately identify the signs of carcinogenesis. Then we need to more accurately look for the process, find and treat at an early stage.
and this applies not only to lung cancer, but also to some other diseases.
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December 14, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
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Will there be a big database? how will that be protected? Is this database centralised ?

What database you mean? User data?

If so, I don't see a point in saving user data for this fast checks, as it is just a first check. You need to go to a doctor anyways.

Well I am guessing Health monitor wants to save data, so it is a good question about the database. Nowadays data security is a very important topic.

In the case they really want to build up a database it's an important point, of course.
Still I don't think it is good to build up a database. Even if you want to use the data for improvement, how will you make clear that the diagnose of this device was accurate? You have in this case to contact the person again to get feedback about it ...
Somehow I think this is strange: "hello, we just wanted to ask if you already went to a doctor for a cancer check. Was it positive?"

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December 14, 2017, 09:37:54 AM
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What about partner with Datum to store medical docs, I think it will worth alot  Grin
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December 14, 2017, 09:39:38 AM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine
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December 14, 2017, 09:57:08 AM
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Will there be a big database? how will that be protected? Is this database centralised ?

What database you mean? User data?

If so, I don't see a point in saving user data for this fast checks, as it is just a first check. You need to go to a doctor anyways.

Well I am guessing Health monitor wants to save data, so it is a good question about the database. Nowadays data security is a very important topic.

In the case they really want to build up a database it's an important point, of course.
Still I don't think it is good to build up a database. Even if you want to use the data for improvement, how will you make clear that the diagnose of this device was accurate? You have in this case to contact the person again to get feedback about it ...
Somehow I think this is strange: "hello, we just wanted to ask if you already went to a doctor for a cancer check. Was it positive?"

I just thought it will be like a small device like a thermometer or pregnancy test (that size approximately) with the inhaler which is sold in vending machines or is it a machine itself where you need to breathe? Because if it's a small separate device, I don't think there will be any database...

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December 14, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
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What about partner with Datum to store medical docs, I think it will worth alot  Grin

People that use the machine will need to agree to that. Is not probably the purpose of this project
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December 14, 2017, 10:32:10 AM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine

Cheers, you have cancer. Please invest in our upcoming ICO so that will can develop a medicine and cure you.
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December 14, 2017, 10:50:44 AM
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I think this is more a centralized project as the data will be gathered in the machines.
Actualy good thinking there.. unless the data is not kept in the machines...
If this is the case that the machines DO gather the info, how safe is it to have such machines with personal user data in it?
For now I can't imagine what other people would do with this data if they manage to "steal" it, but I don't know why it would be neccesary to keep the info after the person got his/her info from it.
Could be just printing out some numbers for the doctor and resest for the next user.


I agree. This is an anonymous diagnosis. Nowhere in the documents is it indicated about the collection of personal information. And if somewhere in the airport a person who ate fried and sweet food, suddenly see a diagnostic apparatus, and made a breath analysis, his result will be inaccurate. Such data does not represent a value, even if they are stored.
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December 14, 2017, 11:00:29 AM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine

I do not know much about diabetes, but if you are talking about cancer there is certainly room for innovation. If Health Monitor will indeed be able to indicate lung cancer in the earliest stages, then we should develop treatments that are highly focused in contrast to the chemo and wide area radiation therapies.
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December 14, 2017, 11:04:42 AM
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What about partner with Datum to store medical docs, I think it will worth alot  Grin

I would see that only Datum would benefit from this theoretical partnership. Or what do you recon that Health Monitor would gain from their data collection?

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December 14, 2017, 11:40:31 AM
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What about partner with Datum to store medical docs, I think it will worth alot  Grin

I would see that only Datum would benefit from this theoretical partnership. Or what do you recon that Health Monitor would gain from their data collection?

Well health monitor could sell it to insurance companies, but that is really not what I think they will do. Just saying that data is really valuable, probably good for scientific research

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December 14, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine

I do not know much about diabetes, but if you are talking about cancer there is certainly room for innovation. If Health Monitor will indeed be able to indicate lung cancer in the earliest stages, then we should develop treatments that are highly focused in contrast to the chemo and wide area radiation therapies.
As far as I understand, this device is designed to detect many diseases. And the Health Monitor will still be improved and new diseases will add to the existing list of diseases. In general, the device will be of interest to many people.

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December 14, 2017, 11:46:06 AM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine

I do not know much about diabetes, but if you are talking about cancer there is certainly room for innovation. If Health Monitor will indeed be able to indicate lung cancer in the earliest stages, then we should develop treatments that are highly focused in contrast to the chemo and wide area radiation therapies.
these machines will help to detect the disease at early stage.
Although this will be bad news - but if know about it at early stage, it will be easier to cope with the disease - maybe without chemo and wide area radiation therapies.
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December 14, 2017, 11:57:38 AM
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The Health Monitor is also said to detect lung cancer symptoms. Does that mean it detects when you have definite lung cancer cells or does it detect the signs that one is at high risk of getting lung cancer?

I'm somewhat concerned if the system gives a wrong diagnosis and the company will eventually be sued by the concerned user/patient. Smiley

That may happen just in the US i think. Everywhere else should be fine as long as there are just few sporadic cases

How do you sue a decentralized project?

Or is this a centralized project, I dont fully understand it yet

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December 14, 2017, 11:58:33 AM
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How much does the maintenance of the healh monitor cost? Each monitor needs a person who will change gas and monitor work.

No, we will sign a local service maintenance contract to check the machine and replace spare parts in case of any problems.

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December 14, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
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If this device finds disease, we need another ICO for the medicine

I do not know much about diabetes, but if you are talking about cancer there is certainly room for innovation. If Health Monitor will indeed be able to indicate lung cancer in the earliest stages, then we should develop treatments that are highly focused in contrast to the chemo and wide area radiation therapies.
these machines will help to detect the disease at early stage.
Although this will be bad news - but if know about it at early stage, it will be easier to cope with the disease - maybe without chemo and wide area radiation therapies.

a lot of types of cancers have higher chances of survive ability if detected early. that's the point of the health monitor. what I'm wondering is if you guys can make a portable version.

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December 14, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
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What about partner with Datum to store medical docs, I think it will worth alot  Grin

I would see that only Datum would benefit from this theoretical partnership. Or what do you recon that Health Monitor would gain from their data collection?

Well health monitor could sell it to insurance companies, but that is really not what I think they will do. Just saying that data is really valuable, probably good for scientific research

But as I said, if you want to use them for scientific research you probably need to contact the persons again to get informations about how accurate your diagnosis was. I don't think, there is a good way to do this, even if it is for further development.

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December 14, 2017, 12:31:19 PM
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What makes me more enthusiastic about the project is its great possibility of large-scale use, surely these acquired patents will have the intention to make great partnerships and collect in the future with rights of use. Congratulations on the prevention and roadmap
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